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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 2:18 PM ET #101

    Gonzalez well have less numbers in every statistical fantasy category than Granderson 
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 2:29 PM ET #102

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    I don't understand the Flashing Lightbulb.. You have made numerous statements saying how granderson for Cargo is an insult trade offer... the fact is keeper league or not... Granderson is a steal for Cargo

    I guarentee he won't have be ahead of Cargo in EVERY category.

    So he'll have more homers and possibly more RBIs...he won't be far and away the best player.

    If I make this trade...what happens to my team next year? I have Hamilton and Cruz with no Cargo. If I don't make this trade...I can have Hamilton, Cruz, Cargo AND Granderson.

    My team is really good this year. I don't need to trade a top closer and a top outfielder for another top outfielder. It makes no sense. Especially since HR's/RBI's aren't my category of need.

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    I don't understand the Flashing Lightbulb.. You have made numerous statements saying how granderson for Cargo is an insult trade offer... the fact is keeper league or not... Granderson is a steal for Cargo

    I guarentee he won't have be ahead of Cargo in EVERY category.

    So he'll have more homers and possibly more RBIs...he won't be far and away the best player.

    If I make this trade...what happens to my team next year? I have Hamilton and Cruz with no Cargo. If I don't make this trade...I can have Hamilton, Cruz, Cargo AND Granderson.

    My team is really good this year. I don't need to trade a top closer and a top outfielder for another top outfielder. It makes no sense. Especially since HR's/RBI's aren't my category of need.

     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 2:30 PM ET #103

    Interesting argument. Granderson may be better then Gonzalez. We have seen the Grandy man do it before. Gonzalez not.
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 2:32 PM ET #104

    But if i were going to trade Gonzalez i would try to get a keeper back. Its a guy you wont have for the next 4 years and getting a guy back for 4 months. I would not be able to do it for that reason alone. 1 year league give me Granderson for Gonzalez.
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    But if i were going to trade Gonzalez i would try to get a keeper back. Its a guy you wont have for the next 4 years and getting a guy back for 4 months. I would not be able to do it for that reason alone. 1 year league give me Granderson for Gonzalez.
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 2:33 PM ET #105

    It's easy to say Granderson will have a far better season than Cargo after the way both have started. Granderson is off to a career start while Cargo has just started to pick up the pace.
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 2:35 PM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    But if i were going to trade Gonzalez i would try to get a keeper back. Its a guy you wont have for the next 4 years and getting a guy back for 4 months. I would not be able to do it for that reason alone. 1 year league give me Granderson for Gonzalez.

    Agreed. Make Granderson even a 3-year player and it's a different story. But the fact that I can get Granderson next year WITH Cargo makes this conversation stupid.

    Yes...Granderson will have more homers than Cargo...but with him batting 2nd in his lineup...he loses some RBI's while gaining some runs. And while he's on a HR tear...he's still only hitting around .270.

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    But if i were going to trade Gonzalez i would try to get a keeper back. Its a guy you wont have for the next 4 years and getting a guy back for 4 months. I would not be able to do it for that reason alone. 1 year league give me Granderson for Gonzalez.

    Agreed. Make Granderson even a 3-year player and it's a different story. But the fact that I can get Granderson next year WITH Cargo makes this conversation stupid.

    Yes...Granderson will have more homers than Cargo...but with him batting 2nd in his lineup...he loses some RBI's while gaining some runs. And while he's on a HR tear...he's still only hitting around .270.

     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 2:36 PM ET #107

    Granderson had an off year last yr.. the guy hit 30 + HR's playing in Comerica Park the yr before...

    Besides its not the point... The point is you said the offer was laughable... when in fact it wasn't...

    You can also look at it this way... Granderson is proven... cargo is not... You can be stuck with a 4 yr player who just happened to have his career yr last yr
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    Granderson had an off year last yr.. the guy hit 30 + HR's playing in Comerica Park the yr before...

    Besides its not the point... The point is you said the offer was laughable... when in fact it wasn't...

    You can also look at it this way... Granderson is proven... cargo is not... You can be stuck with a 4 yr player who just happened to have his career yr last yr
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 2:37 PM ET #108

    As of right now cargo is an average outfielder until proven otherwise 
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 2:44 PM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:

    Granderson had an off year last yr.. the guy hit 30 + HR's playing in Comerica Park the yr before...

    Besides its not the point... The point is you said the offer was laughable... when in fact it wasn't...

    You can also look at it this way... Granderson is proven... cargo is not... You can be stuck with a 4 yr player who just happened to have his career yr last yr

    I stand by what I said. In a keeper league, and my views of Cargo, this deal is laughable. It's 100% fair if it weren't a keeper league.

    But you think Cargo's season last year was a figment of your imagination, and that's fine. I do not. I think he's the real deal and I think he'll be fine when it's all said and done. I don't believe I gave a dud my 4-year contract.

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    Granderson had an off year last yr.. the guy hit 30 + HR's playing in Comerica Park the yr before...

    Besides its not the point... The point is you said the offer was laughable... when in fact it wasn't...

    You can also look at it this way... Granderson is proven... cargo is not... You can be stuck with a 4 yr player who just happened to have his career yr last yr

    I stand by what I said. In a keeper league, and my views of Cargo, this deal is laughable. It's 100% fair if it weren't a keeper league.

    But you think Cargo's season last year was a figment of your imagination, and that's fine. I do not. I think he's the real deal and I think he'll be fine when it's all said and done. I don't believe I gave a dud my 4-year contract.

     
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    will you stop strokin' Granderson already,  the guy is a career .260 hitter, hit 30 hr once, never ever broke 75 rbi's and batted .300 once in an 8 yr career.. 

    you dont get 111 Runs, 34 hr's, 117 rbi's and bat .336 unless you have talent plain and simple...  Cargo is off to a bad start but his potential in the years to come is limitless..  your better off stickin' it out with cargo Sparky, i believe he's the real deal and not a one year wonder, he's just struggling in his 2nd full year, it happens..

     

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    will you stop strokin' Granderson already,  the guy is a career .260 hitter, hit 30 hr once, never ever broke 75 rbi's and batted .300 once in an 8 yr career.. 

    you dont get 111 Runs, 34 hr's, 117 rbi's and bat .336 unless you have talent plain and simple...  Cargo is off to a bad start but his potential in the years to come is limitless..  your better off stickin' it out with cargo Sparky, i believe he's the real deal and not a one year wonder, he's just struggling in his 2nd full year, it happens..

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by --phillyfan--:

    will you stop strokin' Granderson already,  the guy is a career .260 hitter, hit 30 hr once, never ever broke 75 rbi's and batted .300 once in an 8 yr career.. 

    you dont get 111 Runs, 34 hr's, 117 rbi's and bat .336 unless you have talent plain and simple...  Cargo is off to a bad start but his potential in the years to come is limitless..  your better off stickin' it out with cargo Sparky, i believe he's the real deal and not a one year wonder, he's just struggling in his 2nd full year, it happens..

     

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    will you stop strokin' Granderson already,  the guy is a career .260 hitter, hit 30 hr once, never ever broke 75 rbi's and batted .300 once in an 8 yr career.. 

    you dont get 111 Runs, 34 hr's, 117 rbi's and bat .336 unless you have talent plain and simple...  Cargo is off to a bad start but his potential in the years to come is limitless..  your better off stickin' it out with cargo Sparky, i believe he's the real deal and not a one year wonder, he's just struggling in his 2nd full year, it happens..

     

     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 3:27 PM ET #112

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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 4:01 PM ET #113

    Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:

    Curtis-->    <----Uriss

     

      your my boy Joe.... 

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    Curtis-->    <----Uriss

     

      your my boy Joe.... 

     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 4:19 PM ET #114

    Would you guys deny these trade offers...

    Chacin for Reyes

    Chacin For Ellsbury 
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    Chacin for Reyes

    Chacin For Ellsbury 
     
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    your dealing with Jamoaks Uriss, he doesnt trade players !  i dont think i ever saw him trade a player, no matter how much his team is struggling he doesnt try and improve it.

     

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    your dealing with Jamoaks Uriss, he doesnt trade players !  i dont think i ever saw him trade a player, no matter how much his team is struggling he doesnt try and improve it.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by --phillyfan--:

    your dealing with Jamoaks Uriss, he doesnt trade players !  i dont think i ever saw him trade a player, no matter how much his team is struggling he doesnt try and improve it.

     

    I know manram warned me ... His pitching is the worst... he has Y. Escobar to slid ein at SS who is a good SS... So in essence he is losing a little offense to gain a dominant pitcher... I guess some people dont like to try and improve their team ... The trade makes 100% sense to both of us  
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    your dealing with Jamoaks Uriss, he doesnt trade players !  i dont think i ever saw him trade a player, no matter how much his team is struggling he doesnt try and improve it.

     

    I know manram warned me ... His pitching is the worst... he has Y. Escobar to slid ein at SS who is a good SS... So in essence he is losing a little offense to gain a dominant pitcher... I guess some people dont like to try and improve their team ... The trade makes 100% sense to both of us  
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 5:16 PM ET #117

    he's the  same dude that drafted Joe Nathan in last year's draft and Adam Wainwright in this years draft..  and the only guys he offered to the Block this year was David Ardsma and Joe Mauer, both injured...  
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    he's the  same dude that drafted Joe Nathan in last year's draft and Adam Wainwright in this years draft..  and the only guys he offered to the Block this year was David Ardsma and Joe Mauer, both injured...  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:

    Would you guys deny these trade offers...

    Chacin for Reyes

    Chacin For Ellsbury 

    I will be honest with you. Both are pretty bad offers. I know Chacin is having a great season but you cant compare him to those 2 guys. His name also has no value. People look at Chacin and go who the F is this. You can go out on the waiver wire and find something close to Chacin ( i grabbed Lohse off the wire ) but there is no chance in hell you are going to find anything even close to Ells or Reyes out there. Those are top 20 players.

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    Would you guys deny these trade offers...

    Chacin for Reyes

    Chacin For Ellsbury 

    I will be honest with you. Both are pretty bad offers. I know Chacin is having a great season but you cant compare him to those 2 guys. His name also has no value. People look at Chacin and go who the F is this. You can go out on the waiver wire and find something close to Chacin ( i grabbed Lohse off the wire ) but there is no chance in hell you are going to find anything even close to Ells or Reyes out there. Those are top 20 players.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by --phillyfan--:

    he's the  same dude that drafted Joe Nathan in last year's draft and Adam Wainwright in this years draft..  and the only guys he offered to the Block this year was David Ardsma and Joe Mauer, both injured...  

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    he's the  same dude that drafted Joe Nathan in last year's draft and Adam Wainwright in this years draft..  and the only guys he offered to the Block this year was David Ardsma and Joe Mauer, both injured...  

     
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    Kyle Lohse is a MLB Career Gas Can.. Those Numbers are no way gonna hold up


    Chacin is a MLB young stud whom I DRAFTED knowing this... If you guys dont know whi he is thats not my issue... You will know his name for YEARS to come ...

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    Kyle Lohse is a MLB Career Gas Can.. Those Numbers are no way gonna hold up


    Chacin is a MLB young stud whom I DRAFTED knowing this... If you guys dont know whi he is thats not my issue... You will know his name for YEARS to come ...

    https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6751/career;_ylt=AqCKeYo4P7qvyD78mZHphf2FCLcF
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 6:22 PM ET #121

    And no you cannot pick up anything remotely close to chacin on the waiver wire 
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    And no you cannot pick up anything remotely close to chacin on the waiver wire 
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 6:55 PM ET #122

    I'm embarrassed by my win.
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    I'm embarrassed by my win.
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 6:58 PM ET #123

    dude both those offers are horrible. I have chacin and know he's pretty good but those will never get accepted.
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    dude both those offers are horrible. I have chacin and know he's pretty good but those will never get accepted.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    I will be honest with you. Both are pretty bad offers. I know Chacin is having a great season but you cant compare him to those 2 guys. His name also has no value. People look at Chacin and go who the F is this. You can go out on the waiver wire and find something close to Chacin ( i grabbed Lohse off the wire ) but there is no chance in hell you are going to find anything even close to Ells or Reyes out there. Those are top 20 players.

    I agree. Reyes is a top flight SS and he's a 3-year keeper. Chacin won't drastically make his team better.

    As for Ellsbury...that's KTB's main source of steals and he's playing well. And pitching isn't really his weakness. It's weaker without Lee but it's deep which means he pretty much runs the 2169 style but with closers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    I will be honest with you. Both are pretty bad offers. I know Chacin is having a great season but you cant compare him to those 2 guys. His name also has no value. People look at Chacin and go who the F is this. You can go out on the waiver wire and find something close to Chacin ( i grabbed Lohse off the wire ) but there is no chance in hell you are going to find anything even close to Ells or Reyes out there. Those are top 20 players.

    I agree. Reyes is a top flight SS and he's a 3-year keeper. Chacin won't drastically make his team better.

    As for Ellsbury...that's KTB's main source of steals and he's playing well. And pitching isn't really his weakness. It's weaker without Lee but it's deep which means he pretty much runs the 2169 style but with closers.

     
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 7:05 PM ET #125

    Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:

    Kyle Lohse is a MLB Career Gas Can.. Those Numbers are no way gonna hold up


    Chacin is a MLB young stud whom I DRAFTED knowing this... If you guys dont know whi he is thats not my issue... You will know his name for YEARS to come ...

    https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6751/career;_ylt=AqCKeYo4P7qvyD78mZHphf2FCLcF

    Anyone can have a career year. Look at Cargo . Maybe this is his.

    And whose better at coaching a particular position in any sport than Dave Duncan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:

    Kyle Lohse is a MLB Career Gas Can.. Those Numbers are no way gonna hold up


    Chacin is a MLB young stud whom I DRAFTED knowing this... If you guys dont know whi he is thats not my issue... You will know his name for YEARS to come ...

    https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6751/career;_ylt=AqCKeYo4P7qvyD78mZHphf2FCLcF

    Anyone can have a career year. Look at Cargo . Maybe this is his.

    And whose better at coaching a particular position in any sport than Dave Duncan?

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