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Notre Dame at Hawaii (12/24/2008)

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Posted: Dec. 24, 2008 - 4:31 PM ET #176

Quote Originally Posted by backdooor_cover:

Hey bigdaddy,
 
Probably the first time we talked all year.  Hope all is well in Maui.  Oahu has some great weather for todays game.  Not a cloud in the sky and sunny.  When i was at the airport this morning it was a cold 69degrees.  Should make for perfect game conditions.
 
I know you will like this one:
 
Hawaii at the half +0.5
 
Hawaii this year at home during the first half have been   They are monsters in the first half and the defense is at there best.  Second half has been when they start to let up.  But let me tell you the stadium will be close to sold out.  We know how good hawaii is during a full stadium.  It will be intense and I see hawaii coming out strong.
 
GO WARRIORS!!!
 
Lets start the wave
 

 Mele Kalikimaka my bruddah to you and the family. 

All is well here. Nice to see you on this thread bro. I'm still trying to decide on this one but thanks for the weather report.

My relatives on Oahu gave me a call as well on the weather. I gave them a warning as it has been raining off & on here on Maui and might be headed that way this afternoon during game time.

Good luck with the bowl games my brudddah

A little Haka dance for this one...

 Let's GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote Originally Posted by backdooor_cover:

Hey bigdaddy,
 
Probably the first time we talked all year.  Hope all is well in Maui.  Oahu has some great weather for todays game.  Not a cloud in the sky and sunny.  When i was at the airport this morning it was a cold 69degrees.  Should make for perfect game conditions.
 
I know you will like this one:
 
Hawaii at the half +0.5
 
Hawaii this year at home during the first half have been   They are monsters in the first half and the defense is at there best.  Second half has been when they start to let up.  But let me tell you the stadium will be close to sold out.  We know how good hawaii is during a full stadium.  It will be intense and I see hawaii coming out strong.
 
GO WARRIORS!!!
 
Lets start the wave
 

 Mele Kalikimaka my bruddah to you and the family. 

All is well here. Nice to see you on this thread bro. I'm still trying to decide on this one but thanks for the weather report.

My relatives on Oahu gave me a call as well on the weather. I gave them a warning as it has been raining off & on here on Maui and might be headed that way this afternoon during game time.

Good luck with the bowl games my brudddah

A little Haka dance for this one...

 Let's GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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Posted: Dec. 24, 2008 - 4:43 PM ET #177

It looks like the OVER is the play tonight!!!
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It looks like the OVER is the play tonight!!!
 
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Posted: Dec. 24, 2008 - 4:55 PM ET #178

Here"s another scenario where the public has moved a home fav to a home dog ...to a team that won 2 games away from South Bend all yr & the Wash win doesn' t count [except for us ND backers that day] These 2 teams seem equally matched to me with whoever has the ball last winning. Being the only game of the day ...I have to select between them. Sm play on the home Dog 
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Here"s another scenario where the public has moved a home fav to a home dog ...to a team that won 2 games away from South Bend all yr & the Wash win doesn' t count [except for us ND backers that day] These 2 teams seem equally matched to me with whoever has the ball last winning. Being the only game of the day ...I have to select between them. Sm play on the home Dog 
 
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Posted: Dec. 24, 2008 - 4:59 PM ET #179

Posted: 12/24/2008 3:10:38 PM
Public money on Notre Dame much as the Yankees and Cowboys get heavy action so do the Irish. But keep in mind there was a reason the line was set at -2.5 Hawaii and the smart money will take the points at Hawaii +2.5. I just like the home team as the underdog playing against a 6-6 team. Notre Dame closed out their season losing 5 of their last 7. Including the Syracuse loss which stripped this team of any fight they may have had left. 90 yards of offense the following week and they were swimming in the ocean yesterday. Highly motivated indeed. 


Only need to look at....... DAVID HASSELHOLF? LMFAO


REALLY LUV ND NOW!
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Posted: 12/24/2008 3:10:38 PM
Public money on Notre Dame much as the Yankees and Cowboys get heavy action so do the Irish. But keep in mind there was a reason the line was set at -2.5 Hawaii and the smart money will take the points at Hawaii +2.5. I just like the home team as the underdog playing against a 6-6 team. Notre Dame closed out their season losing 5 of their last 7. Including the Syracuse loss which stripped this team of any fight they may have had left. 90 yards of offense the following week and they were swimming in the ocean yesterday. Highly motivated indeed. 


Only need to look at....... DAVID HASSELHOLF? LMFAO


REALLY LUV ND NOW!
 
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Posted: Dec. 24, 2008 - 5:00 PM ET #180

FYI 4th-n-goal...Its not always the public that moves the line. Their could be large amounts of money on a line but very few bets or vice versa...or both in some cases. In this game there are a lot of sharps probably on ND +2.5. As I mentioned in my previous post I am only playing the OVERS tonight. But if this game goes back to a pickem...Ill take ND in this situation. Listen, ND is not very good but neither is Hawaii. ND without question has better athletes and this along with their depth will give them a SU victory.
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FYI 4th-n-goal...Its not always the public that moves the line. Their could be large amounts of money on a line but very few bets or vice versa...or both in some cases. In this game there are a lot of sharps probably on ND +2.5. As I mentioned in my previous post I am only playing the OVERS tonight. But if this game goes back to a pickem...Ill take ND in this situation. Listen, ND is not very good but neither is Hawaii. ND without question has better athletes and this along with their depth will give them a SU victory.
 
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Posted: Dec. 24, 2008 - 5:01 PM ET #181

QUOTE Originally Posted by LTE23:

Hawaii lost to SAN JOSE STATE AT HAWAII.

Everytime these small schools play a Elite Team The Real School Shows up. Norte Dame Backers To upset Hawaii party. Teams in the cold havent all grown up in the cold they come from all over so that adapting to the weather is all a Joke. There kids not old people.

This is a Mis Match and This Game Was schedule for a reason. GO IRISH!!!!! GL TO ALL. Merry XMAS to Everyone who Just bets the game in any way...
Merry XMAS, you SEXY BITCH(!)  


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QUOTE Originally Posted by LTE23:

Hawaii lost to SAN JOSE STATE AT HAWAII.

Everytime these small schools play a Elite Team The Real School Shows up. Norte Dame Backers To upset Hawaii party. Teams in the cold havent all grown up in the cold they come from all over so that adapting to the weather is all a Joke. There kids not old people.

This is a Mis Match and This Game Was schedule for a reason. GO IRISH!!!!! GL TO ALL. Merry XMAS to Everyone who Just bets the game in any way...
Merry XMAS, you SEXY BITCH(!)  


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Posted: Dec. 24, 2008 - 5:03 PM ET #182

Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

If you must drink and drive......drink soda  
For those of you in warm weather, if you must drink and drive, try to use range balls....
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If you must drink and drive......drink soda  
For those of you in warm weather, if you must drink and drive, try to use range balls....
 
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Posted: 12/24/2008 10:39:55 AM
This is the LOCK of the Bowl games, the spread is just dead wrong !!!!!!
 
My largest wager in 2008...........$7,500
 
Notre Dame -1.5


I have that same gut feeling bro. BOL to all of us. God bless everyone and your families over the holidays.
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Posted: 12/24/2008 10:39:55 AM
This is the LOCK of the Bowl games, the spread is just dead wrong !!!!!!
 
My largest wager in 2008...........$7,500
 
Notre Dame -1.5


I have that same gut feeling bro. BOL to all of us. God bless everyone and your families over the holidays.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LRpisano:

I'm all over Notre Dame in this game. I was watching the Cincy-Hawaii game a few weeks ago & Hawaii had a 14 pt lead late
in the 3RD Qtr & COMPLETELY CHOKED the game away against a Cincy team that was half ass at best that night.
The Hawaii QB with the beard, his name escapes me at this time, looks like he's 40 years old & he played like he a 50 year old QB, that game against Cincy. From the 3RD Qtr on, he couldn't move out of the pocket & when Cincy pressured him, he couldn't handle it.
That's why  I like ND in this game. Also, Charlie Weis is calling the plays in this game, NOT his offense coordinator.
Also, just because Hawaii is playing in their own bowl game, doesn't mean anything. This Hawaii team is NOT nearly as good as the other Hawaii teams that have played in this bowl game in the past.
Final score : Notre Dame 28  Hawaii  17

 

I agree with this pick...I also watched that game with Cincy & this Hawaii team looked lost once they had the lead late in 3rd quarter...Though neither teams deserves a bowl...a bowl of soup but not a Bowl game....Notre Dame wins this one in a high scoring game.....

 

NOTRE DAME 45---HAWAII  35

 

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I'm all over Notre Dame in this game. I was watching the Cincy-Hawaii game a few weeks ago & Hawaii had a 14 pt lead late
in the 3RD Qtr & COMPLETELY CHOKED the game away against a Cincy team that was half ass at best that night.
The Hawaii QB with the beard, his name escapes me at this time, looks like he's 40 years old & he played like he a 50 year old QB, that game against Cincy. From the 3RD Qtr on, he couldn't move out of the pocket & when Cincy pressured him, he couldn't handle it.
That's why  I like ND in this game. Also, Charlie Weis is calling the plays in this game, NOT his offense coordinator.
Also, just because Hawaii is playing in their own bowl game, doesn't mean anything. This Hawaii team is NOT nearly as good as the other Hawaii teams that have played in this bowl game in the past.
Final score : Notre Dame 28  Hawaii  17

 

I agree with this pick...I also watched that game with Cincy & this Hawaii team looked lost once they had the lead late in 3rd quarter...Though neither teams deserves a bowl...a bowl of soup but not a Bowl game....Notre Dame wins this one in a high scoring game.....

 

NOTRE DAME 45---HAWAII  35

 

 
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Posted: 12/24/2008 11:13:48 AM[Quote: Originally Posted by Sandman23]
This is the LOCK of the Bowl games, the spread is just dead wrong !!!!!!
 
My largest wager in 2008...........$7,500
 
Notre Dame -1.5

This comes from a guy who is 0-5 in his last 5 college suggestion post. 

TCU -3 Loss, Navy +3 Loss, Bama +10 loss, Ok/TT under Loss, Cent Mich/Ball State Over loss. 

If there is one thing I've learned here its who not to listen to.

Hawaii wins by 6



Too much hatin. Maybe he's due bro. ND and over. 42-21JMO. BOL to ALL of us

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Posted: 12/24/2008 11:13:48 AM[Quote: Originally Posted by Sandman23]
This is the LOCK of the Bowl games, the spread is just dead wrong !!!!!!
 
My largest wager in 2008...........$7,500
 
Notre Dame -1.5

This comes from a guy who is 0-5 in his last 5 college suggestion post. 

TCU -3 Loss, Navy +3 Loss, Bama +10 loss, Ok/TT under Loss, Cent Mich/Ball State Over loss. 

If there is one thing I've learned here its who not to listen to.

Hawaii wins by 6



Too much hatin. Maybe he's due bro. ND and over. 42-21JMO. BOL to ALL of us

 
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The only bad thing about Christmas Eve is there's almost no sports action to bet on.

But to keep my mind off the in-laws I gotta pick something on this game.  Why else would I watch it...

Here are my thoughts:
Both teams are fairly weak/mediocre at best..  pretty much same record with ND having a stronger schedule.  However, ND is playing worse down the stretch.  So, based on this I am staying away from the sides.

I do think both offenses can make some big plays and there should also be a turnover or two to create short fields..  That being said, I like the over.  I see this game with both teams in the upper 20's.  game going back and forth, close to the end..  maybe even OT (even more points)...

I'm taking the over (predict 52 or more).. 

GLA and Merry Christmas!!!


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The only bad thing about Christmas Eve is there's almost no sports action to bet on.

But to keep my mind off the in-laws I gotta pick something on this game.  Why else would I watch it...

Here are my thoughts:
Both teams are fairly weak/mediocre at best..  pretty much same record with ND having a stronger schedule.  However, ND is playing worse down the stretch.  So, based on this I am staying away from the sides.

I do think both offenses can make some big plays and there should also be a turnover or two to create short fields..  That being said, I like the over.  I see this game with both teams in the upper 20's.  game going back and forth, close to the end..  maybe even OT (even more points)...

I'm taking the over (predict 52 or more).. 

GLA and Merry Christmas!!!


 
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Posted: 12/24/2008 1:02:39 PM
for all o fu hawaii backers let me tell this....nd is gonna win and win big...weis is gonna in the chocolate factory for hours thinking up an amazing plan to beat the chinese...his dad was in the korean war and he hates them....nd big..best of luck to all

WHAT ?????? You serious bro?
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for all o fu hawaii backers let me tell this....nd is gonna win and win big...weis is gonna in the chocolate factory for hours thinking up an amazing plan to beat the chinese...his dad was in the korean war and he hates them....nd big..best of luck to all

WHAT ?????? You serious bro?
 
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This has been a hard one to get around.

But I'm going on this: I watched Pete Carroll's face when he shook Weis hand after clobbering them, showing mercy actually.

And the look in his face was incredulous: he could not believe or understand why Weis was so cordial, or maybe a better word, calm, after the loss. He could see he was in either complete denial over what had just happened, or he simply didn't really care, or something.

But I know it was an uncomfortable moment for Carroll, knowing Weis was clearly lost, arrogant, something.

Like Pete knew Charlie didn't know what had just happened, or he was baffled that he could not see the rage a real coach would have after that loss.

So that probably didn't make much sense, but in short, I don't think Weis is a talented leader, and he definitely doesn't think he can do this, or he wouldn't be the way he is.

If you have the athletes they have, then what is the problem?

How many games are games the team "has to win"? Everyone talks about this being the game they will "get it done" to break the streak. That's worthless. They've had many games over the last two seasons that have the same character as this contest.

What's consistent about this team, this program, this coach?


Humiliation.



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This has been a hard one to get around.

But I'm going on this: I watched Pete Carroll's face when he shook Weis hand after clobbering them, showing mercy actually.

And the look in his face was incredulous: he could not believe or understand why Weis was so cordial, or maybe a better word, calm, after the loss. He could see he was in either complete denial over what had just happened, or he simply didn't really care, or something.

But I know it was an uncomfortable moment for Carroll, knowing Weis was clearly lost, arrogant, something.

Like Pete knew Charlie didn't know what had just happened, or he was baffled that he could not see the rage a real coach would have after that loss.

So that probably didn't make much sense, but in short, I don't think Weis is a talented leader, and he definitely doesn't think he can do this, or he wouldn't be the way he is.

If you have the athletes they have, then what is the problem?

How many games are games the team "has to win"? Everyone talks about this being the game they will "get it done" to break the streak. That's worthless. They've had many games over the last two seasons that have the same character as this contest.

What's consistent about this team, this program, this coach?


Humiliation.



Hawaii +2.5
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

LOL

I was just making my rounds around my friends space I just posted a Holiday greeting in your space.

Merry Christmas to you and the family bro

Good luck today



That is too funny!   Hey I hope for your sake your Warriors have a big night bro... I think they're defense might be the difference.  And I just got it at 49, not 49.5.   I do think the optimum # here is 48, but for a bowl I'll lay the extra point.   Hope you get lots of extra points this season BigD.   I can use it, lost my last three!   Not what we're looking for.



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LOL

I was just making my rounds around my friends space I just posted a Holiday greeting in your space.

Merry Christmas to you and the family bro

Good luck today



That is too funny!   Hey I hope for your sake your Warriors have a big night bro... I think they're defense might be the difference.  And I just got it at 49, not 49.5.   I do think the optimum # here is 48, but for a bowl I'll lay the extra point.   Hope you get lots of extra points this season BigD.   I can use it, lost my last three!   Not what we're looking for.



 
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Teased ND with the over and the over straight... Merry Christmas all and a profitable New Year...
NOW... Back to the baileys  
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NOW... Back to the baileys  
 
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Notre Dame -2
 
 
 Good luck and Merry Christmas to all!!!!! 
 
Cheers!!!!  
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 Good luck and Merry Christmas to all!!!!! 
 
Cheers!!!!  
 
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Just cant back a team thats given up more pts than scored. And if you take out Weber St and Idaho  ( I know, ifs and buts but bear with me ) basically D 2 teams, the avg score in they're games is something like 22 f-28 a.
THATS UGLY!
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Just cant back a team thats given up more pts than scored. And if you take out Weber St and Idaho  ( I know, ifs and buts but bear with me ) basically D 2 teams, the avg score in they're games is something like 22 f-28 a.
THATS UGLY!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jackal7130:

Posted: 12/24/2008 11:13:48 AM
Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

This is the LOCK of the Bowl games, the spread is just dead wrong !!!!!!
 
My largest wager in 2008...........$7,500
 
Notre Dame -1.5

This comes from a guy who is 0-5 in his last 5 college suggestion post. 

TCU -3 Loss, Navy +3 Loss, Bama +10 loss, Ok/TT under Loss, Cent Mich/Ball State Over loss. 

If there is one thing I've learned here its who not to listen to.

Hawaii wins by 6



Too much hatin. Maybe he's due bro. ND and over. 42-21JMO. BOL to ALL of us

Funny all these bashers....you only remember the losses...not all the winnings.  I'm up $ 21,250 for the year...not too bad but I guess everyone here is up....whatever

ND -1.5 !!!!!!!

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Posted: 12/24/2008 11:13:48 AM
Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

This is the LOCK of the Bowl games, the spread is just dead wrong !!!!!!
 
My largest wager in 2008...........$7,500
 
Notre Dame -1.5

This comes from a guy who is 0-5 in his last 5 college suggestion post. 

TCU -3 Loss, Navy +3 Loss, Bama +10 loss, Ok/TT under Loss, Cent Mich/Ball State Over loss. 

If there is one thing I've learned here its who not to listen to.

Hawaii wins by 6



Too much hatin. Maybe he's due bro. ND and over. 42-21JMO. BOL to ALL of us

Funny all these bashers....you only remember the losses...not all the winnings.  I'm up $ 21,250 for the year...not too bad but I guess everyone here is up....whatever

ND -1.5 !!!!!!!

 
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Hey Big Daddy I respect and read all that you say,
and also Fpronk and the Colonel Jim and all the others that make this threads interesting
 
         Have a Great Christmas
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Hey Big Daddy I respect and read all that you say,
and also Fpronk and the Colonel Jim and all the others that make this threads interesting
 
         Have a Great Christmas
 
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Merry Christmas to all the regulars out there! Bigdaddy, Danstynk, Phancard, Fish Naked, etc.

Have a healthy and profitable New Year!

Lets go Warriors!  Hawaii +3 over 48.5

 

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Merry Christmas to all the regulars out there! Bigdaddy, Danstynk, Phancard, Fish Naked, etc.

Have a healthy and profitable New Year!

Lets go Warriors!  Hawaii +3 over 48.5

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

I'm still trying to decide whether or not to touch this one but just in case I don't have time to get back on here.....
 
 
Merry Christmas to all
 
Let's be safe out there I want to come back on here and see each and everyone ( including the haters ) still safe and sound after the holiday's.
 
If you must drink and drive......drink soda  
 
BTW my brothers and sisters let's have  on these threads
 

Aloha from Bigdaddy & family
 
 

Wha wuz dat BigD???

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I'm still trying to decide whether or not to touch this one but just in case I don't have time to get back on here.....
 
 
Merry Christmas to all
 
Let's be safe out there I want to come back on here and see each and everyone ( including the haters ) still safe and sound after the holiday's.
 
If you must drink and drive......drink soda  
 
BTW my brothers and sisters let's have  on these threads
 

Aloha from Bigdaddy & family
 
 

Wha wuz dat BigD???

 
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Here is the tipping point for me:

STAN beat WSHST 0-58

UH beat WSHST 24-10

ND beat STAN 28-21

Mismatch?  I think the Irish outclass the warriors, not by a ton, but enough to wash home field advantage, and the travel.  My $ is on ND.  No pick on the total.  They have been killing me.

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Here is the tipping point for me:

STAN beat WSHST 0-58

UH beat WSHST 24-10

ND beat STAN 28-21

Mismatch?  I think the Irish outclass the warriors, not by a ton, but enough to wash home field advantage, and the travel.  My $ is on ND.  No pick on the total.  They have been killing me.

 
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Just messin whicha BigD. . .
 
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!
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Just messin whicha BigD. . .
 
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bentladdle:

Aimlow is that an elk or deer buck? ND is a bad football team, that is a fact. Hawaii and the over because few teams travel well to the islands. Merry Christmas and lets make some bucks.

 

It's a whitetail deer.

 

My bucks are on Hawaii tonight. That bet scares me a little which is usually a good thing. Hopefully Herb knows what he is talking about. Got lucky last night and changed my pick to Boise at the last minute because my book bumped the line to 4. I am sure he was thinking most of his action was going to be on TCU. I was agrivated with the bump so switched on my pick and it worked out. Got Hawaii +2 tonight. GL to everyone!

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Aimlow is that an elk or deer buck? ND is a bad football team, that is a fact. Hawaii and the over because few teams travel well to the islands. Merry Christmas and lets make some bucks.

 

It's a whitetail deer.

 

My bucks are on Hawaii tonight. That bet scares me a little which is usually a good thing. Hopefully Herb knows what he is talking about. Got lucky last night and changed my pick to Boise at the last minute because my book bumped the line to 4. I am sure he was thinking most of his action was going to be on TCU. I was agrivated with the bump so switched on my pick and it worked out. Got Hawaii +2 tonight. GL to everyone!

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