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    WRITEUP:For the first and possibly only time ever, I will be laying almost 5 TD's in a football game

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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2014 - 11:29 PM ET #201

    the weather was forecasted
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2014 - 11:36 PM ET #202

    Quote Originally Posted by Prime Society:

    I wasn't taking any shots at you personally in anyway. It was a suggestion. When I struggle it works for me. Nobody questioned your credibility on here at all. I"m from the Midwest so unfortunately I follow the big 10 and know a little bit about the conference. 

    ND was the biggest bet in Vegas. Everybody was taking them coming off a loss last week to Northwestern. It happens you had a bad week who cares. But don't come at me like I'm one of these clowns ripping you because of your picks. I want to see people do good and win money. 

    I took Indiana because of your writeup but I'm not going to sit here and blame you. Ohio St got up 14-0 and lost focus/interest. You take away the 2 INT's thrown in Indiana's territory and we have a whole different ballgame. I agreed with the pick, that's why I took it. I also had Iowa +10. It takes time to go in depth with these write-ups so respect. 

    Just like I was on the Jets when Talib took that pick to the house. It's betting and that's why it's a hobby for me. GL the rest of the season 

     It's all good.

    I still didn't care ND was the biggest bet. Matter of fact, Knicks last year were backed huge in games I backed them in and I hit at an 80% clip.

    Loved the spot for ND at home against a backup QB. If a kid hits a 32 yarder, just like the early INT's in the OSU game, it's a totally different story, but I'll take my lumps with these two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime Society:

    I wasn't taking any shots at you personally in anyway. It was a suggestion. When I struggle it works for me. Nobody questioned your credibility on here at all. I"m from the Midwest so unfortunately I follow the big 10 and know a little bit about the conference. 

    ND was the biggest bet in Vegas. Everybody was taking them coming off a loss last week to Northwestern. It happens you had a bad week who cares. But don't come at me like I'm one of these clowns ripping you because of your picks. I want to see people do good and win money. 

    I took Indiana because of your writeup but I'm not going to sit here and blame you. Ohio St got up 14-0 and lost focus/interest. You take away the 2 INT's thrown in Indiana's territory and we have a whole different ballgame. I agreed with the pick, that's why I took it. I also had Iowa +10. It takes time to go in depth with these write-ups so respect. 

    Just like I was on the Jets when Talib took that pick to the house. It's betting and that's why it's a hobby for me. GL the rest of the season 

     It's all good.

    I still didn't care ND was the biggest bet. Matter of fact, Knicks last year were backed huge in games I backed them in and I hit at an 80% clip.

    Loved the spot for ND at home against a backup QB. If a kid hits a 32 yarder, just like the early INT's in the OSU game, it's a totally different story, but I'll take my lumps with these two.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2014 - 11:49 PM ET #203

    he does this to himself every weekend.. He will be right back at it tmrw in the NFL...
    Bet with your wallet,not your heart
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    he does this to himself every weekend.. He will be right back at it tmrw in the NFL...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 12:00 AM ET #204

    No ifs in betting
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 12:08 AM ET #205

    I dont think he cares about winning or losing, it's about how many views and attention he can gather appears to be his primary purpose here.  

    Without any doubt, he’s very educated, most educated people would walk before they lose everything.  At least call it quits for a year and recoup.  

    To each is own i guess, something tells me however he’s on the type writer now preparing tommorows game plan. 

    Good night Scal, 
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    I dont think he cares about winning or losing, it's about how many views and attention he can gather appears to be his primary purpose here.  

    Without any doubt, he’s very educated, most educated people would walk before they lose everything.  At least call it quits for a year and recoup.  

    To each is own i guess, something tells me however he’s on the type writer now preparing tommorows game plan. 

    Good night Scal, 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 12:33 AM ET #206

    I agree
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 12:55 AM ET #207

    Quote Originally Posted by droyder:

    my goodness you're just getting crushed everywhere, sad to see bro.

     

    Not sure where your head is at. I'm 4-3 in CFB this year. If you followed you actually MADE money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droyder:

    my goodness you're just getting crushed everywhere, sad to see bro.

     

    Not sure where your head is at. I'm 4-3 in CFB this year. If you followed you actually MADE money.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 1:14 AM ET #208

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine99:




     
    Not sure where your head is at. I'm 4-3 in CFB this year. If you followed you actually MADE money.

    I want you to remember this jerrkoff.......In this business you are only as good as your last pick(s)..........You hear me scuumbag...........Do we need to talk about your brutal capping skills for today.....Notre Dame -2.5....OKAY......Ohio St -35....OKAY.....Dallas Mavericks -4...OKAY........

    You took a beating today jerrkoff.....Period!..............Get the darn out of here.........You want people to pat you on the back and say.......(Tough loses scal you were on the right side though)..........

    You were on the wrong side of all those plays pal.......Get off!

     

    Yeah so when you were on Houston and down 4 with :51 seconds were you sitting back with your legs up saying "I got this".

    No, you got lucky.

    And when Notre Dame was driving for the winning TD and was in the red zone of Louisville on first down were you saying "I go this" with Louisville? And how big was your sigh of relief when they missed a 32 yarder?

    No, you got lucky.

    You see in the short run, those picks lose.

    But its called managing a bankroll.

    You take the losses and in the long-run, guys on those games typically lose everything (if they keep betting the same way, thinking they'll get lucky) and I stay in the game profiting.

    Been on this site for 10 years back to Wagerline.

    You? You've been here for...10 minutes...

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine99:




     
    Not sure where your head is at. I'm 4-3 in CFB this year. If you followed you actually MADE money.

    I want you to remember this jerrkoff.......In this business you are only as good as your last pick(s)..........You hear me scuumbag...........Do we need to talk about your brutal capping skills for today.....Notre Dame -2.5....OKAY......Ohio St -35....OKAY.....Dallas Mavericks -4...OKAY........

    You took a beating today jerrkoff.....Period!..............Get the darn out of here.........You want people to pat you on the back and say.......(Tough loses scal you were on the right side though)..........

    You were on the wrong side of all those plays pal.......Get off!

     

    Yeah so when you were on Houston and down 4 with :51 seconds were you sitting back with your legs up saying "I got this".

    No, you got lucky.

    And when Notre Dame was driving for the winning TD and was in the red zone of Louisville on first down were you saying "I go this" with Louisville? And how big was your sigh of relief when they missed a 32 yarder?

    No, you got lucky.

    You see in the short run, those picks lose.

    But its called managing a bankroll.

    You take the losses and in the long-run, guys on those games typically lose everything (if they keep betting the same way, thinking they'll get lucky) and I stay in the game profiting.

    Been on this site for 10 years back to Wagerline.

    You? You've been here for...10 minutes...

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 1:27 AM ET #209

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine99:

    A proud man would say......Sorry folks i went 0-3 today.....I stunk up the joint....Sorry if i caused any to lose money....I need a few days off to regroup.....I`ll be back better then ever.

    A proud man don`t cry BAD BEATS....LMAO.

    Except I didn't stink up the joint.

    If you had Louisville and are patting yourself on the back saying what a great win that was, you are an idiot.

    In the same way, I won't sit here and sulk because I had Notre Dame. That would also be idiotic.

    You have learn the nuances of capping and the results and if results are just L's and W's like I said with poker, you will lose everything in the long run. Every penny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine99:

    A proud man would say......Sorry folks i went 0-3 today.....I stunk up the joint....Sorry if i caused any to lose money....I need a few days off to regroup.....I`ll be back better then ever.

    A proud man don`t cry BAD BEATS....LMAO.

    Except I didn't stink up the joint.

    If you had Louisville and are patting yourself on the back saying what a great win that was, you are an idiot.

    In the same way, I won't sit here and sulk because I had Notre Dame. That would also be idiotic.

    You have learn the nuances of capping and the results and if results are just L's and W's like I said with poker, you will lose everything in the long run. Every penny.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 2:28 AM ET #210

    Its strange if a person gives a good write up you think its a sure thing. You dummys blame Scal for losing. Do any of you make money gambling? Of course not you follow somebody's advise. When will you all understand what it means to be a professorial gambler. 

    I am 100% sure that everybody in this thread loves the action of betting on a game. It gets the juices flowing but I bet everybody in this thread is down money gambling. I bet some of you bet your pay check every week. Some weeks you eat steak but some weeks you live on potatoes. 

    But never point the finger at somebody else if you lose. Even worse you blame somebody else because you lost.   
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    Its strange if a person gives a good write up you think its a sure thing. You dummys blame Scal for losing. Do any of you make money gambling? Of course not you follow somebody's advise. When will you all understand what it means to be a professorial gambler. 

    I am 100% sure that everybody in this thread loves the action of betting on a game. It gets the juices flowing but I bet everybody in this thread is down money gambling. I bet some of you bet your pay check every week. Some weeks you eat steak but some weeks you live on potatoes. 

    But never point the finger at somebody else if you lose. Even worse you blame somebody else because you lost.   
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurshka:

    Its strange if a person gives a good write up you think its a sure thing. You dummys blame Scal for losing. Do any of you make money gambling? Of course not you follow somebody's advise. When will you all understand what it means to be a professorial gambler. 

    I am 100% sure that everybody in this thread loves the action of betting on a game. It gets the juices flowing but I bet everybody in this thread is down money gambling. I bet some of you bet your pay check every week. Some weeks you eat steak but some weeks you live on potatoes. 

    But never point the finger at somebody else if you lose. Even worse you blame somebody else because you lost.   

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurshka:

    Its strange if a person gives a good write up you think its a sure thing. You dummys blame Scal for losing. Do any of you make money gambling? Of course not you follow somebody's advise. When will you all understand what it means to be a professorial gambler. 

    I am 100% sure that everybody in this thread loves the action of betting on a game. It gets the juices flowing but I bet everybody in this thread is down money gambling. I bet some of you bet your pay check every week. Some weeks you eat steak but some weeks you live on potatoes. 

    But never point the finger at somebody else if you lose. Even worse you blame somebody else because you lost.   

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 7:04 AM ET #212

    scal + leaguecrapper = trasssssh

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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 9:47 AM ET #213

    Quote Originally Posted by droyder:



    i just don't get it. he writes essays every weekend on different games in every sport and all the picks lose huge. he's just getting crushed beyond belief everywhere. is it the drama he seeks?

    The picks lose huge?

    For all the hoopla yesterday with OSU, a game that had dozens of posters coming in and saying a -23,000 ML was going down ended with a casual OSU win 42-27: a 15 pt win. The spread was 35.

    And the typical brainless idiot says, LOOK AT HOW MUCH HE MISSED BY (this guy with the "His pick lose HUGE" comment).

    But did I?

    The result came within 40% of the final number.

    To put that in perspective, if you play a 10 pt spread in the NBA, it's equivalent to your team winning the game (leg 1 achieved) but only winning by 4 (leg 2 fails and is only 40% there).

    That is losing HUGE? That's a HUGE miss?

    Folks, look at the bashers.

    These guys? Not too bright...Not too bright at all. They don't even understand what a cover or a miss is.

    And here they are, congregating in my thread, bashing picks that either are just barely missing (SIX games I posted screwed me on the LAST play of the game or fell .5 pt outside the number by some ridiculous screw up), or when they lose, really aren't the terrible losses they try to make them out to be.


    When the money truck rolls in, these guys better jump out the way into the gutter, because I am coming FULL FORCE their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droyder:



    i just don't get it. he writes essays every weekend on different games in every sport and all the picks lose huge. he's just getting crushed beyond belief everywhere. is it the drama he seeks?

    The picks lose huge?

    For all the hoopla yesterday with OSU, a game that had dozens of posters coming in and saying a -23,000 ML was going down ended with a casual OSU win 42-27: a 15 pt win. The spread was 35.

    And the typical brainless idiot says, LOOK AT HOW MUCH HE MISSED BY (this guy with the "His pick lose HUGE" comment).

    But did I?

    The result came within 40% of the final number.

    To put that in perspective, if you play a 10 pt spread in the NBA, it's equivalent to your team winning the game (leg 1 achieved) but only winning by 4 (leg 2 fails and is only 40% there).

    That is losing HUGE? That's a HUGE miss?

    Folks, look at the bashers.

    These guys? Not too bright...Not too bright at all. They don't even understand what a cover or a miss is.

    And here they are, congregating in my thread, bashing picks that either are just barely missing (SIX games I posted screwed me on the LAST play of the game or fell .5 pt outside the number by some ridiculous screw up), or when they lose, really aren't the terrible losses they try to make them out to be.


    When the money truck rolls in, these guys better jump out the way into the gutter, because I am coming FULL FORCE their way.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 9:49 AM ET #214

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurshka:

    Its strange if a person gives a good write up you think its a sure thing. You dummys blame Scal for losing. Do any of you make money gambling? Of course not you follow somebody's advise. When will you all understand what it means to be a professorial gambler. 

    I am 100% sure that everybody in this thread loves the action of betting on a game. It gets the juices flowing but I bet everybody in this thread is down money gambling. I bet some of you bet your pay check every week. Some weeks you eat steak but some weeks you live on potatoes. 

    But never point the finger at somebody else if you lose. Even worse you blame somebody else because you lost.   

    Even crazier, they're down and I'm actually up.

    And then when you cap a game for them, they bash THE RESULT if it loses, say nothing if it wins, and before the game have NO REASON to play either side otherwise!

    If they are true to their word about how bad a certain cap is, they should be rich!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurshka:

    Its strange if a person gives a good write up you think its a sure thing. You dummys blame Scal for losing. Do any of you make money gambling? Of course not you follow somebody's advise. When will you all understand what it means to be a professorial gambler. 

    I am 100% sure that everybody in this thread loves the action of betting on a game. It gets the juices flowing but I bet everybody in this thread is down money gambling. I bet some of you bet your pay check every week. Some weeks you eat steak but some weeks you live on potatoes. 

    But never point the finger at somebody else if you lose. Even worse you blame somebody else because you lost.   

    Even crazier, they're down and I'm actually up.

    And then when you cap a game for them, they bash THE RESULT if it loses, say nothing if it wins, and before the game have NO REASON to play either side otherwise!

    If they are true to their word about how bad a certain cap is, they should be rich!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 10:15 AM ET #215

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Even crazier, they're down and I'm actually up.

    And then when you cap a game for them, they bash THE RESULT if it loses, say nothing if it wins, and before the game have NO REASON to play either side otherwise!

    If they are true to their word about how bad a certain cap is, they should be rich!

    Most people aren't bashing because you lose; it's because in your mind you never lose.  You come with every excuse known to man, most of them silly.  The fact that you are trying to somehow defend Ohio St ("they came close") or Notre Dame ("missed field goal") is laughable, and sad.  The more you talk, the more people are feeling sorry for you.  Man up. Quit trying to defend the indefensible.  You will get some respect back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Even crazier, they're down and I'm actually up.

    And then when you cap a game for them, they bash THE RESULT if it loses, say nothing if it wins, and before the game have NO REASON to play either side otherwise!

    If they are true to their word about how bad a certain cap is, they should be rich!

    Most people aren't bashing because you lose; it's because in your mind you never lose.  You come with every excuse known to man, most of them silly.  The fact that you are trying to somehow defend Ohio St ("they came close") or Notre Dame ("missed field goal") is laughable, and sad.  The more you talk, the more people are feeling sorry for you.  Man up. Quit trying to defend the indefensible.  You will get some respect back.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 10:17 AM ET #216

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    To actually take and cap -35 means you have to stones,




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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    To actually take and cap -35 means you have to stones,




     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 11:06 AM ET #217

    Ignore the haters scal....I was with you for the Rutgers play last week, and am an OSU fan.  I stayed away from this one just b/c I had other games I liked better, but I thought Urban would do exactly as you described.

    You actually take time to cap these games, and find angles and motivational edges when they apply.  All the lazy morons in these forums want to troll for someone else to do the work, and then act like a crying 3 year old when they lose.
    Keep up the good work, and keep finding the true signal on games among all the noise around here.  
    Nobody could have predicted the turnovers by the Buckeyes in the 1st half
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    Ignore the haters scal....I was with you for the Rutgers play last week, and am an OSU fan.  I stayed away from this one just b/c I had other games I liked better, but I thought Urban would do exactly as you described.

    You actually take time to cap these games, and find angles and motivational edges when they apply.  All the lazy morons in these forums want to troll for someone else to do the work, and then act like a crying 3 year old when they lose.
    Keep up the good work, and keep finding the true signal on games among all the noise around here.  
    Nobody could have predicted the turnovers by the Buckeyes in the 1st half
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 11:16 AM ET #218

    Scal,

    I would like to throw one back with you some day. I bet we would have a long and healthy conversation about sports.

    However, I have a proposal for you, let me make the picks, you do the write-ups, that way we work together as a team.

    PM if you’re interested.

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    Scal,

    I would like to throw one back with you some day. I bet we would have a long and healthy conversation about sports.

    However, I have a proposal for you, let me make the picks, you do the write-ups, that way we work together as a team.

    PM if you’re interested.

    Offer expries after today (exp 11/23)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 12:51 PM ET #219

    Scal:  I think you're a good capper, but your losses were the wrong side.  You can't claim Notre Dame was close when they were getting smashed all game for the most part.  To rely on a field goal and then hope they cover in overtime is a bit much. and your osu pick was way off.  it wasn't close.  it's all good, but keep it real as the poster above me a few posts said.  it is ok to lose plays.  the best do too..
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    Scal:  I think you're a good capper, but your losses were the wrong side.  You can't claim Notre Dame was close when they were getting smashed all game for the most part.  To rely on a field goal and then hope they cover in overtime is a bit much. and your osu pick was way off.  it wasn't close.  it's all good, but keep it real as the poster above me a few posts said.  it is ok to lose plays.  the best do too..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 2:01 PM ET #220

    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

    Most people aren't bashing because you lose; it's because in your mind you never lose.  You come with every excuse known to man, most of them silly.  The fact that you are trying to somehow defend Ohio St ("they came close") or Notre Dame ("missed field goal") is laughable, and sad.  The more you talk, the more people are feeling sorry for you.  Man up. Quit trying to defend the indefensible.  You will get some respect back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

    Most people aren't bashing because you lose; it's because in your mind you never lose.  You come with every excuse known to man, most of them silly.  The fact that you are trying to somehow defend Ohio St ("they came close") or Notre Dame ("missed field goal") is laughable, and sad.  The more you talk, the more people are feeling sorry for you.  Man up. Quit trying to defend the indefensible.  You will get some respect back.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

    Most people aren't bashing because you lose; it's because in your mind you never lose.  You come with every excuse known to man, most of them silly.  The fact that you are trying to somehow defend Ohio St ("they came close") or Notre Dame ("missed field goal") is laughable, and sad.  The more you talk, the more people are feeling sorry for you.  Man up. Quit trying to defend the indefensible.  You will get some respect back.

    I never said OSU came close! And if that's how you read it, (not sure where) it's the wrong it interpretation!

    And yeah, 32 yard FG to go to OT are missed every day (nevermind the act ND was in the red zone to take the lead straight up.

    If you had Louisville, you escaped with your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

    Most people aren't bashing because you lose; it's because in your mind you never lose.  You come with every excuse known to man, most of them silly.  The fact that you are trying to somehow defend Ohio St ("they came close") or Notre Dame ("missed field goal") is laughable, and sad.  The more you talk, the more people are feeling sorry for you.  Man up. Quit trying to defend the indefensible.  You will get some respect back.

    I never said OSU came close! And if that's how you read it, (not sure where) it's the wrong it interpretation!

    And yeah, 32 yard FG to go to OT are missed every day (nevermind the act ND was in the red zone to take the lead straight up.

    If you had Louisville, you escaped with your life.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 6:02 PM ET #222

    as long as your write-ups are, you SHOULD have accounted for everything
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    as long as your write-ups are, you SHOULD have accounted for everything
     
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    wow , ten pages of useless info. scal , I had osu before I read your input - Show me the guy that never loses and ill show you a liar.

    Stay with it man - you only got a couple more pages of useless bashing

    Think of it this way - if they didn't give a garbage about your opinion, why did they read your post and give you grief after the fact? This site is like a Housewife show

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    wow , ten pages of useless info. scal , I had osu before I read your input - Show me the guy that never loses and ill show you a liar.

    Stay with it man - you only got a couple more pages of useless bashing

    Think of it this way - if they didn't give a garbage about your opinion, why did they read your post and give you grief after the fact? This site is like a Housewife show

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    wow , ten pages of useless info. scal , I had osu before I read your input - Show me the guy that never loses and ill show you a liar.

    Stay with it man - you only got a couple more pages of useless bashing

    Think of it this way - if they didn't give a garbage about your opinion, why did they read your post and give you grief after the fact? This site is like a Housewife show

    Snork, there wasn't a SINGLE poster who could give me ONE legitimate reason to take Indy.

    That is the crazy part.

    And in the end OSU put up 42 on them. It's not like they didn't score as expected. I was 8 points off. I expected 50.

    But my god. Three turneovers in nearly one quarter is as bad as OSU could possibly play against a ridiculously bad defense. It was shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel:

    wow , ten pages of useless info. scal , I had osu before I read your input - Show me the guy that never loses and ill show you a liar.

    Stay with it man - you only got a couple more pages of useless bashing

    Think of it this way - if they didn't give a garbage about your opinion, why did they read your post and give you grief after the fact? This site is like a Housewife show

    Snork, there wasn't a SINGLE poster who could give me ONE legitimate reason to take Indy.

    That is the crazy part.

    And in the end OSU put up 42 on them. It's not like they didn't score as expected. I was 8 points off. I expected 50.

    But my god. Three turneovers in nearly one quarter is as bad as OSU could possibly play against a ridiculously bad defense. It was shocking.

     
     
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    Scalabrain, your pick blew. It was pathetic. GTF out of here if you think differently. I can't believe this bullsht is still at the top of the threads, and it's only because of your g&y fkkn excuses. You are a loser, and will always be a loser, because you can't move on.

     

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    Scalabrain, your pick blew. It was pathetic. GTF out of here if you think differently. I can't believe this bullsht is still at the top of the threads, and it's only because of your g&y fkkn excuses. You are a loser, and will always be a loser, because you can't move on.

     

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