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    Will Ohio State be favored over Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl?

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    jwheels86
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:54 PM ET #1

    Discuss..
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:56 PM ET #2

    yes lvsc open is osu -2.5 and total 57
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    yes lvsc open is osu -2.5 and total 57
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:56 PM ET #3

    i love arkansas in this spot 
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:57 PM ET #4

    They should be, they are better than Arkansas. 
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    They should be, they are better than Arkansas. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:58 PM ET #5

    they will be a small fave, -2 maybe
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 10:12 PM ET #6

    Of course they will. -3. Probably should be 3.5

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    Of course they will. -3. Probably should be 3.5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 10:13 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    They should be, they are better than Arkansas. 


    be careful with that thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    They should be, they are better than Arkansas. 


    be careful with that thought
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 10:15 PM ET #8

    I love the over in this game.  Yes, Ohio st. has shown to be able to slow people down and they have 4 guys on that def. that will be playing in the NFL( we can debate that in another thread, but they will be).

    That being said, Ark. has way to much firepower for them and Ark. is goin gto give up at least 30 points.  This one has over written all over it.  I say that meaning that if I were to bet this game, I think the over is the best bet as opposed to a certain side.

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    I love the over in this game.  Yes, Ohio st. has shown to be able to slow people down and they have 4 guys on that def. that will be playing in the NFL( we can debate that in another thread, but they will be).

    That being said, Ark. has way to much firepower for them and Ark. is goin gto give up at least 30 points.  This one has over written all over it.  I say that meaning that if I were to bet this game, I think the over is the best bet as opposed to a certain side.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 11:01 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    be careful with that thought

    Just because a team is from the SEC does not mean they are better than their competition....Be careful with your thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    be careful with that thought

    Just because a team is from the SEC does not mean they are better than their competition....Be careful with your thinking

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 11:29 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    Just because a team is from the SEC does not mean they are better than their competition....Be careful with your thinking




    That has absolutely nothing to do with my thinking here. Arkansas is a hell of a team and been getting slept on all year, I would have loved to see them play Auburn with Mallett
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:

    Just because a team is from the SEC does not mean they are better than their competition....Be careful with your thinking




    That has absolutely nothing to do with my thinking here. Arkansas is a hell of a team and been getting slept on all year, I would have loved to see them play Auburn with Mallett
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 11:40 PM ET #11

    Ever since the mention of Arkansas vs. Ohio St came up, I figured the line would be OSU -3 and eventually move to OSU -3.5.

    Which seems about right to me.  Everybody who I know is a huge Hog fan and they all seem to think the Hogs will beat OSU... and easily...

    But I lean towards Ohio St simply because their defense is so dominant.  A hard game to cap in my opinion.

    I do not think OSU will give up 80 yd TD passes with :06 on the clock before half-time a la LSU and in fact, I think OSU will be able to limit big plays period.  If you take away the big plays from Arkansas you severly limit their chances of winning.

    I will say that Knile Davis has become a legitimate running threat for the Hogs and if he gets going like he has been the past 5 games (130+ yds/per game) -- Arkansas will win.

    I've doubted Arkansas at times this year... like when I took Bama -7 and LSU +3.5 and I lost a lot of money because of my uncertainty.

    I do think Ohio St will win but the Hogs have surpassed my expectations all year. 

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    Ever since the mention of Arkansas vs. Ohio St came up, I figured the line would be OSU -3 and eventually move to OSU -3.5.

    Which seems about right to me.  Everybody who I know is a huge Hog fan and they all seem to think the Hogs will beat OSU... and easily...

    But I lean towards Ohio St simply because their defense is so dominant.  A hard game to cap in my opinion.

    I do not think OSU will give up 80 yd TD passes with :06 on the clock before half-time a la LSU and in fact, I think OSU will be able to limit big plays period.  If you take away the big plays from Arkansas you severly limit their chances of winning.

    I will say that Knile Davis has become a legitimate running threat for the Hogs and if he gets going like he has been the past 5 games (130+ yds/per game) -- Arkansas will win.

    I've doubted Arkansas at times this year... like when I took Bama -7 and LSU +3.5 and I lost a lot of money because of my uncertainty.

    I do think Ohio St will win but the Hogs have surpassed my expectations all year. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 11:43 PM ET #12

    oh and I must add that historically the Razorbacks shit the bed in big games... like on 06 when they got throttled in the SEC Title game and by Wisconsin in the bowl game
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    oh and I must add that historically the Razorbacks shit the bed in big games... like on 06 when they got throttled in the SEC Title game and by Wisconsin in the bowl game
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 11:48 PM ET #13

    wow, only -3 for ohio state ... lets go buckeyes!!!

    arkansas gets dominated!

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    wow, only -3 for ohio state ... lets go buckeyes!!!

    arkansas gets dominated!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzwald:

    oh and I must add that historically the Razorbacks shit the bed in big games... like on 06 when they got throttled in the SEC Title game and by Wisconsin in the bowl game



    Please don't compare past Arkansas teams coached by Nutt and awful QB's to this team. Mallett will get his against any defense in college, OSU is no different in that regard. He will put up numbers, their defense would be the reason they lose if anything..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzwald:

    oh and I must add that historically the Razorbacks shit the bed in big games... like on 06 when they got throttled in the SEC Title game and by Wisconsin in the bowl game



    Please don't compare past Arkansas teams coached by Nutt and awful QB's to this team. Mallett will get his against any defense in college, OSU is no different in that regard. He will put up numbers, their defense would be the reason they lose if anything..
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzwald:

    Ever since the mention of Arkansas vs. Ohio St came up, I figured the line would be OSU -3 and eventually move to OSU -3.5.

    Which seems about right to me.  Everybody who I know is a huge Hog fan and they all seem to think the Hogs will beat OSU... and easily...

    But I lean towards Ohio St simply because their defense is so dominant.  A hard game to cap in my opinion.

    I do not think OSU will give up 80 yd TD passes with :06 on the clock before half-time a la LSU and in fact, I think OSU will be able to limit big plays period.  If you take away the big plays from Arkansas you severly limit their chances of winning.

    I will say that Knile Davis has become a legitimate running threat for the Hogs and if he gets going like he has been the past 5 games (130+ yds/per game) -- Arkansas will win.

    I've doubted Arkansas at times this year... like when I took Bama -7 and LSU +3.5 and I lost a lot of money because of my uncertainty.

    I do think Ohio St will win but the Hogs have surpassed my expectations all year. 



    I'm really not sure what they have done to prove they are a dominant defense...strong, yes...dominant, no
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzwald:

    Ever since the mention of Arkansas vs. Ohio St came up, I figured the line would be OSU -3 and eventually move to OSU -3.5.

    Which seems about right to me.  Everybody who I know is a huge Hog fan and they all seem to think the Hogs will beat OSU... and easily...

    But I lean towards Ohio St simply because their defense is so dominant.  A hard game to cap in my opinion.

    I do not think OSU will give up 80 yd TD passes with :06 on the clock before half-time a la LSU and in fact, I think OSU will be able to limit big plays period.  If you take away the big plays from Arkansas you severly limit their chances of winning.

    I will say that Knile Davis has become a legitimate running threat for the Hogs and if he gets going like he has been the past 5 games (130+ yds/per game) -- Arkansas will win.

    I've doubted Arkansas at times this year... like when I took Bama -7 and LSU +3.5 and I lost a lot of money because of my uncertainty.

    I do think Ohio St will win but the Hogs have surpassed my expectations all year. 



    I'm really not sure what they have done to prove they are a dominant defense...strong, yes...dominant, no
     
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    I'm excited about this matchup, both solid teams with two completely different coaches
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    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    I'm excited about this matchup, both solid teams with two completely different coaches





    I'm really not excited for this matchup, I wanted a rematch with LSU for a little redemption, Arkansas does nothing for me...and we all know it's all about me!
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    I'm excited about this matchup, both solid teams with two completely different coaches





    I'm really not excited for this matchup, I wanted a rematch with LSU for a little redemption, Arkansas does nothing for me...and we all know it's all about me!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:




    That has absolutely nothing to do with my thinking here. Arkansas is a hell of a team and been getting slept on all year, I would have loved to see them play Auburn with Mallett

    You do know that Wilson played better than Mallett that game vs Auburn.  25-34 for 332 yards and 4 tds.  They put up 43 points, and you think they would have done any better with Mallett in there?  They allowed 65 points!

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    That has absolutely nothing to do with my thinking here. Arkansas is a hell of a team and been getting slept on all year, I would have loved to see them play Auburn with Mallett

    You do know that Wilson played better than Mallett that game vs Auburn.  25-34 for 332 yards and 4 tds.  They put up 43 points, and you think they would have done any better with Mallett in there?  They allowed 65 points!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcnmoo:

    You do know that Wilson played better than Mallett that game vs Auburn.  25-34 for 332 yards and 4 tds.  They put up 43 points, and you think they would have done any better with Mallett in there?  They allowed 65 points!




    Did you not watch the game? You actually think Mallett wouldn't have done the same thing to that secondary? Really? The officials literally blew two calls that gave Auburn the win that were absolutely awful.. Mallett would make that Auburn defense quit even trying by the 4th quarter
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcnmoo:

    You do know that Wilson played better than Mallett that game vs Auburn.  25-34 for 332 yards and 4 tds.  They put up 43 points, and you think they would have done any better with Mallett in there?  They allowed 65 points!




    Did you not watch the game? You actually think Mallett wouldn't have done the same thing to that secondary? Really? The officials literally blew two calls that gave Auburn the win that were absolutely awful.. Mallett would make that Auburn defense quit even trying by the 4th quarter
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:




    Did you not watch the game? You actually think Mallett wouldn't have done the same thing to that secondary? Really? The officials literally blew two calls that gave Auburn the win that were absolutely awful.. Mallett would make that Auburn defense quit even trying by the 4th quarter

    Mallett was in there for a while.  He had worse numbers.  10-15 96 yards, much worse yards per attempt.  6.4 to Wilson's 9.8.  I agree if he had more attempts he probably would have improved his numbers.  But to say Arkansas would have done any better with Mallett is ridiculous.  Wilson had a damn good game.

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    Did you not watch the game? You actually think Mallett wouldn't have done the same thing to that secondary? Really? The officials literally blew two calls that gave Auburn the win that were absolutely awful.. Mallett would make that Auburn defense quit even trying by the 4th quarter

    Mallett was in there for a while.  He had worse numbers.  10-15 96 yards, much worse yards per attempt.  6.4 to Wilson's 9.8.  I agree if he had more attempts he probably would have improved his numbers.  But to say Arkansas would have done any better with Mallett is ridiculous.  Wilson had a damn good game.

     
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    Did you not watch the game? You actually think Mallett wouldn't have done the same thing to that secondary? Really? The officials literally blew two calls that gave Auburn the win that were absolutely awful.. Mallett would make that Auburn defense quit even trying by the 4th quarter

    i think ur missing his point. theres not many QBs that could have done better than Wilson. Mallett is a great QB, but he is prone to costly interceptions, and like moo said, i dont know if mallett could have done much better

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    Did you not watch the game? You actually think Mallett wouldn't have done the same thing to that secondary? Really? The officials literally blew two calls that gave Auburn the win that were absolutely awful.. Mallett would make that Auburn defense quit even trying by the 4th quarter

    i think ur missing his point. theres not many QBs that could have done better than Wilson. Mallett is a great QB, but he is prone to costly interceptions, and like moo said, i dont know if mallett could have done much better

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2010 - 1:02 PM ET #22

    UM fans will even more PO'd at Rich Rod if Mallett has big game against their biggest rival as he transferred cause of RR. 
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    UM fans will even more PO'd at Rich Rod if Mallett has big game against their biggest rival as he transferred cause of RR. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2010 - 1:31 PM ET #23

    pigs win this one by double digits. now that they have a running game their offense is just too balanced
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    pigs win this one by double digits. now that they have a running game their offense is just too balanced
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2010 - 7:39 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by -bringit-:

    i think ur missing his point. theres not many QBs that could have done better than Wilson. Mallett is a great QB, but he is prone to costly interceptions, and like moo said, i dont know if mallett could have done much better



    So Mallett is worse than the backup.. got it
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    Quote Originally Posted by -bringit-:

    i think ur missing his point. theres not many QBs that could have done better than Wilson. Mallett is a great QB, but he is prone to costly interceptions, and like moo said, i dont know if mallett could have done much better



    So Mallett is worse than the backup.. got it
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2010 - 7:41 PM ET #25

    JW - I watched that game as well, the guy played damn well. It didnt look as if Mallett was going to have his best day. You and I always see alike, but I can understand his point.


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    JW - I watched that game as well, the guy played damn well. It didnt look as if Mallett was going to have his best day. You and I always see alike, but I can understand his point.


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