Relax dude. Reading is fundamental? I read it clear as day! Anyone who knows college football knows how difficult ND schedule has been compared to the above now or at seasons end!
BIG 12 doesnt play defense! ND just held Oklahoma to 13 at Oklahoma!
Oregon has beat ??????
Kansas State has beat?????
One can make the case for Bama also??????
I hate ND but its hard to argue otherwise! Really hard! Oregon is the same song as they have been every year!
Kansas State is intriquing!
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Train,
Relax dude. Reading is fundamental? I read it clear as day! Anyone who knows college football knows how difficult ND schedule has been compared to the above now or at seasons end!
BIG 12 doesnt play defense! ND just held Oklahoma to 13 at Oklahoma!
Oregon has beat ??????
Kansas State has beat?????
One can make the case for Bama also??????
I hate ND but its hard to argue otherwise! Really hard! Oregon is the same song as they have been every year!
Michigan and MSU are good! Michigan is tied for most points on Bama this season HAHA what a stupid argument. MSU just went to WIsky and beat them in OT. WIsky lost to Oregon State who was just in top 10! All these team are good. But BAMA is elite right now! ELITE! So please dont tell me Michgian and MSU arent good! You my friend sound stupid. You must only watch one thing
Oregon is very good and yes I have seen them play! They havent played a legitimate team dude! How can anyone argue anything about Oregon! ASU just lost to UCLA whoopy! Even if Oregon beats USC that doesnt hold that much truth! DUDE wake up people! Who cares if ND would lose to Oregon! Thats not the reality. The reality is ND has played tougher teams and beaten them! CLose or not! They deserve it and Oregon doesnt! Maybe Arkansas State shouldnt be on the schedule!
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Blowoutgame,
Michigan and MSU are good! Michigan is tied for most points on Bama this season HAHA what a stupid argument. MSU just went to WIsky and beat them in OT. WIsky lost to Oregon State who was just in top 10! All these team are good. But BAMA is elite right now! ELITE! So please dont tell me Michgian and MSU arent good! You my friend sound stupid. You must only watch one thing
Oregon is very good and yes I have seen them play! They havent played a legitimate team dude! How can anyone argue anything about Oregon! ASU just lost to UCLA whoopy! Even if Oregon beats USC that doesnt hold that much truth! DUDE wake up people! Who cares if ND would lose to Oregon! Thats not the reality. The reality is ND has played tougher teams and beaten them! CLose or not! They deserve it and Oregon doesnt! Maybe Arkansas State shouldnt be on the schedule!
Train - K-State will not play a conference championship game.
Notre Dame has and will have a tougher schedule than Oregon when all is done. However it is not just about how tough the schedule is, it is what you do with it. You have to look at the fact that Oregon has to date blown everyone up and ND has had a lot of close ones that could have turned on one play. They also played as perfect a game as they could and were tied with 5 minutes left in Norman.
I'm a big ND fan, but you just have to watch the games to see that as of now Oregon and K State are more deserving than ND.
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Train - K-State will not play a conference championship game.
Notre Dame has and will have a tougher schedule than Oregon when all is done. However it is not just about how tough the schedule is, it is what you do with it. You have to look at the fact that Oregon has to date blown everyone up and ND has had a lot of close ones that could have turned on one play. They also played as perfect a game as they could and were tied with 5 minutes left in Norman.
I'm a big ND fan, but you just have to watch the games to see that as of now Oregon and K State are more deserving than ND.
Brandon the computers love ND which is why they'll get the 2nd spot and rightfully so. Oregon and KState might as well be called Boise State light. Both teams schedule is comical while ND will play one of the toughest in the country. My point is most CFB fans are envious of ND for various reasons but mostly because of the exposure they get which is five times more than any other team in American sports.
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Brandon the computers love ND which is why they'll get the 2nd spot and rightfully so. Oregon and KState might as well be called Boise State light. Both teams schedule is comical while ND will play one of the toughest in the country. My point is most CFB fans are envious of ND for various reasons but mostly because of the exposure they get which is five times more than any other team in American sports.
Why does anyone believe that ND will stay ahead of Oregon should both finish the season undefeated? You may think or feel that ND deserves it more, but it doesnt matter what you think or feel, it only matters who finishes higher in the BCS. The same BCS that uses the human polls as 2/3 of the equation and the other 1/3rd from the computers
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I forgot to add Brandon that will change as the year ends and ND stays undefeated. People want to watch ND in the NC game, nobody gives a shit about KState or Oregon unless your're a fan of them. Who do you think the media and sportswriters want in the NC game? It's good for business and hype if ND is in and they will be.
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Why does anyone believe that ND will stay ahead of Oregon should both finish the season undefeated? You may think or feel that ND deserves it more, but it doesnt matter what you think or feel, it only matters who finishes higher in the BCS. The same BCS that uses the human polls as 2/3 of the equation and the other 1/3rd from the computers
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I forgot to add Brandon that will change as the year ends and ND stays undefeated. People want to watch ND in the NC game, nobody gives a shit about KState or Oregon unless your're a fan of them. Who do you think the media and sportswriters want in the NC game? It's good for business and hype if ND is in and they will be.
Brandon the computers love ND which is why they'll get the 2nd spot and rightfully so. Oregon and KState might as well be called Boise State light. Both teams schedule is comical while ND will play one of the toughest in the country. My point is most CFB fans are envious of ND for various reasons but mostly because of the exposure they get which is five times more than any other team in American sports.
I don't disagree with you in terms of the fans view of ND, they are a lot like the Yankees, Cowboys, etc. As far as ND playing one of the toughest schedules, at this point you are correct that they have played a tougher schedule if you use SOS. However, that SOS is only going to go down with the upcoming games on their schedule and KSU and Oregon's will go up. Also, KSU with their current weaker SOS are still in front of ND, so without a loss, I don't see how ND has a path to jump KSU let alone prevent Oregon from jumping them as well. Argue all you want about whether ND deserves to be in the top 2 or that you want them to be in the top 2, but those arguments have no bearing on what will actually happen in the final BCS standings.
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Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:
Brandon the computers love ND which is why they'll get the 2nd spot and rightfully so. Oregon and KState might as well be called Boise State light. Both teams schedule is comical while ND will play one of the toughest in the country. My point is most CFB fans are envious of ND for various reasons but mostly because of the exposure they get which is five times more than any other team in American sports.
I don't disagree with you in terms of the fans view of ND, they are a lot like the Yankees, Cowboys, etc. As far as ND playing one of the toughest schedules, at this point you are correct that they have played a tougher schedule if you use SOS. However, that SOS is only going to go down with the upcoming games on their schedule and KSU and Oregon's will go up. Also, KSU with their current weaker SOS are still in front of ND, so without a loss, I don't see how ND has a path to jump KSU let alone prevent Oregon from jumping them as well. Argue all you want about whether ND deserves to be in the top 2 or that you want them to be in the top 2, but those arguments have no bearing on what will actually happen in the final BCS standings.
Why does anyone believe that ND will stay ahead of Oregon should both finish the season undefeated? You may think or feel that ND deserves it more, but it doesnt matter what you think or feel, it only matters who finishes higher in the BCS. The same BCS that uses the human polls as 2/3 of the equation and the other 1/3rd from the computers
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I forgot to add Brandon that will change as the year ends and ND stays undefeated. People want to watch ND in the NC game, nobody gives a shit about KState or Oregon unless your're a fan of them. Who do you think the media and sportswriters want in the NC game? It's good for business and hype if ND is in and they will be.
If the voters decide to jump ND from 4 to 2 over undefeated Oregon and KSU, then you MAY be right that they finish top 2. I just don't see how any of the people that are currently voting ND 4th are all of the sudden going to put them ahead of Oregon and KSU after what would be ND wins over Pitt, BC, Wake and USC. Maybe if ND beats USC by 40+ it could happen, but thinking the voters will vote ND to 2nd in both polls sounds like the opinion of ND fans and just isn't probable.
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Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:
Why does anyone believe that ND will stay ahead of Oregon should both finish the season undefeated? You may think or feel that ND deserves it more, but it doesnt matter what you think or feel, it only matters who finishes higher in the BCS. The same BCS that uses the human polls as 2/3 of the equation and the other 1/3rd from the computers
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I forgot to add Brandon that will change as the year ends and ND stays undefeated. People want to watch ND in the NC game, nobody gives a shit about KState or Oregon unless your're a fan of them. Who do you think the media and sportswriters want in the NC game? It's good for business and hype if ND is in and they will be.
If the voters decide to jump ND from 4 to 2 over undefeated Oregon and KSU, then you MAY be right that they finish top 2. I just don't see how any of the people that are currently voting ND 4th are all of the sudden going to put them ahead of Oregon and KSU after what would be ND wins over Pitt, BC, Wake and USC. Maybe if ND beats USC by 40+ it could happen, but thinking the voters will vote ND to 2nd in both polls sounds like the opinion of ND fans and just isn't probable.
I hate the Irish but if they run the table which they should the not only will be in a BCS bowl but will play i the BCS Championship game. Is Oregon, Alabama, and KSU better? I don't think there is a doubt and maybe a 1/2 dozen other teams but an undefeated ND team means huge money for the BCS and NCAA (don't forget the networks). The game is all about the money and they will make sure ND is in it.
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Shut out of a BCS game? LMAO
I hate the Irish but if they run the table which they should the not only will be in a BCS bowl but will play i the BCS Championship game. Is Oregon, Alabama, and KSU better? I don't think there is a doubt and maybe a 1/2 dozen other teams but an undefeated ND team means huge money for the BCS and NCAA (don't forget the networks). The game is all about the money and they will make sure ND is in it.
Brandon the computers love ND which is why they'll get the 2nd spot and rightfully so. Oregon and KState might as well be called Boise State light. Both teams schedule is comical while ND will play one of the toughest in the country. My point is most CFB fans are envious of ND for various reasons but mostly because of the exposure they get which is five times more than any other team in American sports.
No way undefeated ND is denied after winning at OK and at USC.
Oregon will not play a strong team from the P12 South.
Bama is already in
K St will get passed over.
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Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:
Brandon the computers love ND which is why they'll get the 2nd spot and rightfully so. Oregon and KState might as well be called Boise State light. Both teams schedule is comical while ND will play one of the toughest in the country. My point is most CFB fans are envious of ND for various reasons but mostly because of the exposure they get which is five times more than any other team in American sports.
No way undefeated ND is denied after winning at OK and at USC.
Oregon will not play a strong team from the P12 South.
I dont know if anyone cares to listen to this...but what alot of people are saying here is dead wrong. A few have valid points, the rest wrong.
Fuck USC, fuck oklahoma, fuck all these teams that Oregon/ND can beat. Oklahoma has proven they arent for real, and USC to some extent, all these teams dont matter, in Norman, in South Bend, whatever, these teams have too many flaws that can correlate to the true success of ND/Oregon/KState
Someone posted about 2/3 human ranking and 1/3 computer...this is the right answer. ***Assuming*** all the 3 behind Bama (After their gutsy performance in Baton Rouge) win out, Oregon is out, and KState would have to put on a show. Oregon would be AWESOME to see, their ground attack vs. bamas D, or even Kstates D and mobility vs. Bama, but ND carries an x-factor (History and $$$) that the other 2 dont.
We know Oregon would beat ND, and K state (probably), But has CFB ever been fair? Last year really questioned the system, and itll never be accurate till a playoff. The big 12 has taken a reputation beating for lack of D....Kind of false... it only looks like shit compared to the SEC. Notre Dame, although hated by too many haha, will have the best shot of getting there because thier sched was *hard enough* to allow them through. Too much cash, respect, and big picture issues on the line that people like us cant even begin to understand, whats behind closed doors. ND would get in, although I agree unfair. Oregon and Kst cant even blow out teams 56-0 and get in. Thats how tough this situation is, and too mant people who are biased against ND will never get it.
So, until one of these teams posts a loss or a big swing that can change things, everyone is really wrong lol, its so obvious it seems incredibly complicated. The computers will fully aid ND, and the "human element" of the BCS...will favour the others, but not enough to avoid ND getting in. Everyone who cant wrap their heads around it...i was equally as lost as you but get into reality and good luck in the future
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I dont know if anyone cares to listen to this...but what alot of people are saying here is dead wrong. A few have valid points, the rest wrong.
Fuck USC, fuck oklahoma, fuck all these teams that Oregon/ND can beat. Oklahoma has proven they arent for real, and USC to some extent, all these teams dont matter, in Norman, in South Bend, whatever, these teams have too many flaws that can correlate to the true success of ND/Oregon/KState
Someone posted about 2/3 human ranking and 1/3 computer...this is the right answer. ***Assuming*** all the 3 behind Bama (After their gutsy performance in Baton Rouge) win out, Oregon is out, and KState would have to put on a show. Oregon would be AWESOME to see, their ground attack vs. bamas D, or even Kstates D and mobility vs. Bama, but ND carries an x-factor (History and $$$) that the other 2 dont.
We know Oregon would beat ND, and K state (probably), But has CFB ever been fair? Last year really questioned the system, and itll never be accurate till a playoff. The big 12 has taken a reputation beating for lack of D....Kind of false... it only looks like shit compared to the SEC. Notre Dame, although hated by too many haha, will have the best shot of getting there because thier sched was *hard enough* to allow them through. Too much cash, respect, and big picture issues on the line that people like us cant even begin to understand, whats behind closed doors. ND would get in, although I agree unfair. Oregon and Kst cant even blow out teams 56-0 and get in. Thats how tough this situation is, and too mant people who are biased against ND will never get it.
So, until one of these teams posts a loss or a big swing that can change things, everyone is really wrong lol, its so obvious it seems incredibly complicated. The computers will fully aid ND, and the "human element" of the BCS...will favour the others, but not enough to avoid ND getting in. Everyone who cant wrap their heads around it...i was equally as lost as you but get into reality and good luck in the future
Lol this directed to mtp...not to be direspectful, but you gotta get back to basics. Dont insult some hard working cappers and enthusiasts here.
Week 1...Michigan, Bama, are you kidding?? WEEK 1???? Week 1 freshman shit their pants when their welcomed to the big show. Teams grow, develop...find out their identity. Denard Robinson and company really are a good football team eh? They can barely keep up in the shittiest big 10 conference history known to CFB. Mich State...no words...see ya. ND is a good football team, but they didnt deserve these, or if they did, not as much as Oregon or KState would go out and deserve it. And guess what. Does the avg college football fan or a computer give a fuck if it was by 3 points or 33 points? No. 9-0,10-0, 11-0..thats what matters. ND is an good football team... But do not say they will get into the NC cause they earned it. I love ND football...good family history actually, but this is beyond that of a fan. Theyll get in cause of the word Notre Dame, and you gotta learn that.
PS, Oklahoma is shit. ND and KState beat the same shit team. They in the same category. Mich state and Mich *APX.* equal to WVA or TTech (who also doesnt deserve a ranking). You gotta reevaluate everything you believe in football. Bottom Line, ND = Good, But not nearly championship good, however, they still get in to the big game.
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Lol this directed to mtp...not to be direspectful, but you gotta get back to basics. Dont insult some hard working cappers and enthusiasts here.
Week 1...Michigan, Bama, are you kidding?? WEEK 1???? Week 1 freshman shit their pants when their welcomed to the big show. Teams grow, develop...find out their identity. Denard Robinson and company really are a good football team eh? They can barely keep up in the shittiest big 10 conference history known to CFB. Mich State...no words...see ya. ND is a good football team, but they didnt deserve these, or if they did, not as much as Oregon or KState would go out and deserve it. And guess what. Does the avg college football fan or a computer give a fuck if it was by 3 points or 33 points? No. 9-0,10-0, 11-0..thats what matters. ND is an good football team... But do not say they will get into the NC cause they earned it. I love ND football...good family history actually, but this is beyond that of a fan. Theyll get in cause of the word Notre Dame, and you gotta learn that.
PS, Oklahoma is shit. ND and KState beat the same shit team. They in the same category. Mich state and Mich *APX.* equal to WVA or TTech (who also doesnt deserve a ranking). You gotta reevaluate everything you believe in football. Bottom Line, ND = Good, But not nearly championship good, however, they still get in to the big game.
ND WILL BE RANKED 4TH IN THE BCS TOMORROW NIGHT AFTER YET ANOTHER CRAP PERFORMANCE AGAINST A CRAP TEAM,
p.s. Bama, Oregon, and K-state, already ranked ahead, and have much tougher schedules,
i REPEAT: if 2 of the 3 teams i just named above, go undefeated, then ND cannot and will not jump them because they do not have enough "beauty" on offense to get great victories, even against BC, wake forest, and especially at USC.
ND needs 2 of the 3 ranked ahead of them to lose, or ND is FUKKING DONE
BCS bowl YES
BCS title game? NO
This is not fukking 1960 where coaches are afraid to vote for what the believe in,
do you know anything about 1993?
ND beats #1 Florida St, but then ND loses to BC.
ND was 11-1 after the bowls, and FSU was 11-1 after the bowls.
FSU WON THE NATIONAL TITLE IN BOTH THE COACHES AND AP POLL,
NOTRE DAME FEAR AND RELEVANCE IS LONG GONE,
LEARN THE GAME, SON
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completely wrong.
ND WILL BE RANKED 4TH IN THE BCS TOMORROW NIGHT AFTER YET ANOTHER CRAP PERFORMANCE AGAINST A CRAP TEAM,
p.s. Bama, Oregon, and K-state, already ranked ahead, and have much tougher schedules,
i REPEAT: if 2 of the 3 teams i just named above, go undefeated, then ND cannot and will not jump them because they do not have enough "beauty" on offense to get great victories, even against BC, wake forest, and especially at USC.
ND needs 2 of the 3 ranked ahead of them to lose, or ND is FUKKING DONE
BCS bowl YES
BCS title game? NO
This is not fukking 1960 where coaches are afraid to vote for what the believe in,
do you know anything about 1993?
ND beats #1 Florida St, but then ND loses to BC.
ND was 11-1 after the bowls, and FSU was 11-1 after the bowls.
FSU WON THE NATIONAL TITLE IN BOTH THE COACHES AND AP POLL,
1993 ND was the better team... they lost to BC which would ruin any teams chances?? The seminoles beat Nebraska right? If I remember correctly Nd absoloutely crushed FL state in that game,although they didnt win by alot. If they replayed Fla St and won then it would be settled? Point is your argument is wrong because they never got to replay them... whereas last year Bama showed a similar case where they replayed LSU... And we saw how that turned out.
My mosquito football team from 20 years ago could beat ND, but thats not the point. Every person in power availabile will try to get them in if they win out. It will do wonders for CFB that are beyond your thinking capacity. WE KNOW theyll be number 4 tmrw, why the fuck would you say that? Learn and read up, bigger issues here. Its more than a NC game in the end. You heard it here, If ND wins out and the others dont impress by large margins, the Irish are in.
And guess what, I dont give a fuck about the Irish, but I know im right. Your a hater on their tradition and history. I can tell by the way you bias against them. Its wrong because fans do the same sadly, all the glory to the irish, but nonetheless they are the face of college football. Theyve done so much good for the game. To be a mediocre team and get to number 3 like this, youll see. The public will be with them and ride them. Good luck come bowl season your gonna need it.
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1993 ND was the better team... they lost to BC which would ruin any teams chances?? The seminoles beat Nebraska right? If I remember correctly Nd absoloutely crushed FL state in that game,although they didnt win by alot. If they replayed Fla St and won then it would be settled? Point is your argument is wrong because they never got to replay them... whereas last year Bama showed a similar case where they replayed LSU... And we saw how that turned out.
My mosquito football team from 20 years ago could beat ND, but thats not the point. Every person in power availabile will try to get them in if they win out. It will do wonders for CFB that are beyond your thinking capacity. WE KNOW theyll be number 4 tmrw, why the fuck would you say that? Learn and read up, bigger issues here. Its more than a NC game in the end. You heard it here, If ND wins out and the others dont impress by large margins, the Irish are in.
And guess what, I dont give a fuck about the Irish, but I know im right. Your a hater on their tradition and history. I can tell by the way you bias against them. Its wrong because fans do the same sadly, all the glory to the irish, but nonetheless they are the face of college football. Theyve done so much good for the game. To be a mediocre team and get to number 3 like this, youll see. The public will be with them and ride them. Good luck come bowl season your gonna need it.
After yesterday I think ND lost all claim to a national title shot unless two of the other 3 lose. Barely beating a horrible Pitt squad (while playing in South Bend also) isn't impressing computers or voters. If you didn't know KSU, Oregon, and 'Bama have beat the sh*t out of everyone they played this year.
But I agree with the rest of you ND is a very popular team and there will be a huge push for them if they finish undefeated. I have nothing against ND but I do hope they lose at USC, if USC plays the way they played yesterday there should be no question about this, so there's no noise about this and I can see 'Bama and Oregon go at it.
Honestly I'm more worried about KSU ruining my hopes than ND at this point.
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Gotta agree with Gridiron.
After yesterday I think ND lost all claim to a national title shot unless two of the other 3 lose. Barely beating a horrible Pitt squad (while playing in South Bend also) isn't impressing computers or voters. If you didn't know KSU, Oregon, and 'Bama have beat the sh*t out of everyone they played this year.
But I agree with the rest of you ND is a very popular team and there will be a huge push for them if they finish undefeated. I have nothing against ND but I do hope they lose at USC, if USC plays the way they played yesterday there should be no question about this, so there's no noise about this and I can see 'Bama and Oregon go at it.
Honestly I'm more worried about KSU ruining my hopes than ND at this point.
Relax dude. Reading is fundamental? I read it clear as day! Anyone who knows college football knows how difficult ND schedule has been compared to the above now or at seasons end!
BIG 12 doesnt play defense! ND just held Oklahoma to 13 at Oklahoma!
Oregon has beat ??????
Kansas State has beat?????
One can make the case for Bama also??????
I hate ND but its hard to argue otherwise! Really hard! Oregon is the same song as they have been every year!
Kansas State is intriquing!
Great points. But yesterday changed the whole equation.
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Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:
Train,
Relax dude. Reading is fundamental? I read it clear as day! Anyone who knows college football knows how difficult ND schedule has been compared to the above now or at seasons end!
BIG 12 doesnt play defense! ND just held Oklahoma to 13 at Oklahoma!
Oregon has beat ??????
Kansas State has beat?????
One can make the case for Bama also??????
I hate ND but its hard to argue otherwise! Really hard! Oregon is the same song as they have been every year!
Kansas State is intriquing!
Great points. But yesterday changed the whole equation.
There are good arguments for all,and bad things for all also,there is plenty of football left to be played yet before anyone can really decide.
you can make arguments pro and con for all teams.
Bama IMO is the best,although they barely pulled it off last night,but they have crushed many. Oregon has rolled too,but even though some wins are against lesser opps,still Ark St (6-3),Fres(7-3),AZ (5-4) USC (6-3) all winning records although not that great of teams. K-State impressive too, beating OU ranked #6 at the time 24-19,W.Vir ranked #13 at the time 55-14,Okl St ranked #24 at the time 44-30,although some of those teams have dropped since then. ND also beat #10 Mich St at the time 20-3,but Mich St is now (5-5),they beat Mich 13-6,but they are (6-3) now,they did get lucky in the Stan game 20-13 and Stan was #4 at the time,and beat then #8 OU 30-13,but also barely beat a (4-5) Pitt team,20-17 over a (3-6) Pur team,and 17-14 over a (5-4) BYU team
To much football left to play yet,but by all things that have happened so far,IMO,it has to be Bama at the top yet,and either Ore or KState # 2 or 3 next,then ND
To bad Ohio State isnt elligible,then we could have a real mess,and if Flor St ,Geo,or Flor hadn't lost a game,but thats what gets us all talking about college football. Just sit back ,enjoy the games and let it play out. NCAA Football is great
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There are good arguments for all,and bad things for all also,there is plenty of football left to be played yet before anyone can really decide.
you can make arguments pro and con for all teams.
Bama IMO is the best,although they barely pulled it off last night,but they have crushed many. Oregon has rolled too,but even though some wins are against lesser opps,still Ark St (6-3),Fres(7-3),AZ (5-4) USC (6-3) all winning records although not that great of teams. K-State impressive too, beating OU ranked #6 at the time 24-19,W.Vir ranked #13 at the time 55-14,Okl St ranked #24 at the time 44-30,although some of those teams have dropped since then. ND also beat #10 Mich St at the time 20-3,but Mich St is now (5-5),they beat Mich 13-6,but they are (6-3) now,they did get lucky in the Stan game 20-13 and Stan was #4 at the time,and beat then #8 OU 30-13,but also barely beat a (4-5) Pitt team,20-17 over a (3-6) Pur team,and 17-14 over a (5-4) BYU team
To much football left to play yet,but by all things that have happened so far,IMO,it has to be Bama at the top yet,and either Ore or KState # 2 or 3 next,then ND
To bad Ohio State isnt elligible,then we could have a real mess,and if Flor St ,Geo,or Flor hadn't lost a game,but thats what gets us all talking about college football. Just sit back ,enjoy the games and let it play out. NCAA Football is great
1993 ND was the better team... they lost to BC which would ruin any teams chances?? The seminoles beat Nebraska right? If I remember correctly Nd absoloutely crushed FL state in that game,although they didnt win by alot. If they replayed Fla St and won then it would be settled? Point is your argument is wrong because they never got to replay them... whereas last year Bama showed a similar case where they replayed LSU... And we saw how that turned out.
My mosquito football team from 20 years ago could beat ND, but thats not the point. Every person in power availabile will try to get them in if they win out. It will do wonders for CFB that are beyond your thinking capacity. WE KNOW theyll be number 4 tmrw, why the fuck would you say that? Learn and read up, bigger issues here. Its more than a NC game in the end. You heard it here, If ND wins out and the others dont impress by large margins, the Irish are in.
And guess what, I dont give a fuck about the Irish, but I know im right. Your a hater on their tradition and history. I can tell by the way you bias against them. Its wrong because fans do the same sadly, all the glory to the irish, but nonetheless they are the face of college football. Theyve done so much good for the game. To be a mediocre team and get to number 3 like this, youll see. The public will be with them and ride them. Good luck come bowl season your gonna need it.
you are absolutely clueless.
1) i have ZERO against ND, but if you watched the top 4 teams play, it is CLEAR that they are not as goo as the 3 teams above them
2) you say the people will vote them in?
THEY ARE RANKED 4TH IN TODAY'S HUMAN POLLS!!!
IT'S THE COMPUTERS, NOT THE PEOPLE, THAT LIKE THEM!!!
BUT THE COMP'S WILL LIKE OREGON MORE AFTER OREGON'S FINISH AGAINST RANKED TEAMS INCL YESTERDAY!!
GET A CLUE YOU!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by patcams:
1993 ND was the better team... they lost to BC which would ruin any teams chances?? The seminoles beat Nebraska right? If I remember correctly Nd absoloutely crushed FL state in that game,although they didnt win by alot. If they replayed Fla St and won then it would be settled? Point is your argument is wrong because they never got to replay them... whereas last year Bama showed a similar case where they replayed LSU... And we saw how that turned out.
My mosquito football team from 20 years ago could beat ND, but thats not the point. Every person in power availabile will try to get them in if they win out. It will do wonders for CFB that are beyond your thinking capacity. WE KNOW theyll be number 4 tmrw, why the fuck would you say that? Learn and read up, bigger issues here. Its more than a NC game in the end. You heard it here, If ND wins out and the others dont impress by large margins, the Irish are in.
And guess what, I dont give a fuck about the Irish, but I know im right. Your a hater on their tradition and history. I can tell by the way you bias against them. Its wrong because fans do the same sadly, all the glory to the irish, but nonetheless they are the face of college football. Theyve done so much good for the game. To be a mediocre team and get to number 3 like this, youll see. The public will be with them and ride them. Good luck come bowl season your gonna need it.
you are absolutely clueless.
1) i have ZERO against ND, but if you watched the top 4 teams play, it is CLEAR that they are not as goo as the 3 teams above them
2) you say the people will vote them in?
THEY ARE RANKED 4TH IN TODAY'S HUMAN POLLS!!!
IT'S THE COMPUTERS, NOT THE PEOPLE, THAT LIKE THEM!!!
BUT THE COMP'S WILL LIKE OREGON MORE AFTER OREGON'S FINISH AGAINST RANKED TEAMS INCL YESTERDAY!!
Lol this directed to mtp...not to be direspectful, but you gotta get back to basics. Dont insult some hard working cappers and enthusiasts here.
Week 1...Michigan, Bama, are you kidding?? WEEK 1???? Week 1 freshman shit their pants when their welcomed to the big show. Teams grow, develop...find out their identity. Denard Robinson and company really are a good football team eh? They can barely keep up in the shittiest big 10 conference history known to CFB. Mich State...no words...see ya. ND is a good football team, but they didnt deserve these, or if they did, not as much as Oregon or KState would go out and deserve it. And guess what. Does the avg college football fan or a computer give a fuck if it was by 3 points or 33 points? No. 9-0,10-0, 11-0..thats what matters. ND is an good football team... But do not say they will get into the NC cause they earned it. I love ND football...good family history actually, but this is beyond that of a fan. Theyll get in cause of the word Notre Dame, and you gotta learn that.
PS, Oklahoma is shit. ND and KState beat the same shit team. They in the same category. Mich state and Mich *APX.* equal to WVA or TTech (who also doesnt deserve a ranking). You gotta reevaluate everything you believe in football. Bottom Line, ND = Good, But not nearly championship good, however, they still get in to the big game.
ND needs Oregon,and Kansas St to lose ND schedule strength is really weak rest of season,while Oregon will be helped by computer rankings rest of the year
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Quote Originally Posted by patcams:
Lol this directed to mtp...not to be direspectful, but you gotta get back to basics. Dont insult some hard working cappers and enthusiasts here.
Week 1...Michigan, Bama, are you kidding?? WEEK 1???? Week 1 freshman shit their pants when their welcomed to the big show. Teams grow, develop...find out their identity. Denard Robinson and company really are a good football team eh? They can barely keep up in the shittiest big 10 conference history known to CFB. Mich State...no words...see ya. ND is a good football team, but they didnt deserve these, or if they did, not as much as Oregon or KState would go out and deserve it. And guess what. Does the avg college football fan or a computer give a fuck if it was by 3 points or 33 points? No. 9-0,10-0, 11-0..thats what matters. ND is an good football team... But do not say they will get into the NC cause they earned it. I love ND football...good family history actually, but this is beyond that of a fan. Theyll get in cause of the word Notre Dame, and you gotta learn that.
PS, Oklahoma is shit. ND and KState beat the same shit team. They in the same category. Mich state and Mich *APX.* equal to WVA or TTech (who also doesnt deserve a ranking). You gotta reevaluate everything you believe in football. Bottom Line, ND = Good, But not nearly championship good, however, they still get in to the big game.
ND needs Oregon,and Kansas St to lose ND schedule strength is really weak rest of season,while Oregon will be helped by computer rankings rest of the year
IF ND beats SC, their in. Its simple...theirs nothing to it...Oregon is better, but their schedules are basically indifferent when talking NC. ND gets the upper hand for sporting the green and gold lol... Youll see.
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IF ND beats SC, their in. Its simple...theirs nothing to it...Oregon is better, but their schedules are basically indifferent when talking NC. ND gets the upper hand for sporting the green and gold lol... Youll see.
Your thread, your question, so why is your argument that their out and why are you getting all heated about it? Im telling you the answer, so take the info as you will.
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Your thread, your question, so why is your argument that their out and why are you getting all heated about it? Im telling you the answer, so take the info as you will.
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Wont matter when bc beats nd next week anyway 
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