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    165yds
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 10:05 PM ET #1

    Last week was a great week after two sub par weeks.  Can't complain, been a very good year so far.  Let's get to it.

    WU is turning into one of the biggest public dogs in weeks in a high profile game.  I love fading teams coming off their biggest win of the year, almost impossible to bring the same intensity the next week.  It's one of the best reasons to fade teams this time of the year, so many teams coming off  huge wins to catapult their season only to fall back to reality.  These kids aren't robots.  WU acted like they won the SB last week, time to get their asses kicked against a more than capable offense at home.  It's a name your score kind of game.   Cal by 17+.

    There are times to make spot plays and times you make line plays.  This would be the latter.  Miami Ohio coming off a huge rivalry game winning SU as a home pup and now their getting points from a 1-7 team?  The oddsmakers like Buffalo this week, who am I to argue.  

    Kent St ruins Rutgers season as almost a 2 TD dog and now is laying DD points the following week.  Have to fade them this week, pretty basic.  Maybe the cover maybe they don't, who cares.  It's the proper play long term which is the only thing you should be worried about.  

    Georgia was in a great spot last week because of how big a win Florida had the previous week.  They find themselves in equally a bad spot coming off a season changing win, love how they are laying 2 TD's the next week.  Always fade a team coming off what you think is their best win of the year, this applies as to why you fade Georgia.

    If I told you USC has more talent than Oregon what would you say?  USC has more NFL talent and expect them to win outright.  The reason they lose is they have an awful coach and no mental toughness on the road.  They face a team who doesn't scare me even a little.  How can you say Oregon is a good team when we know nothing about them?  They have played literally nobody so far.  We don't know if their defense is good or how explosive they really are on offense.  Now they're laying more than a TD on the road to a team with more talent?  Line is a joke on so many levels.  They were toying with Zona who I had last week and the wheels fell off, that won't happen at Mem. Coliseum.  Ducks backers are in for a rude awakening, Ducks will be fortunate to come out of there with a win.  Everyone is so down on USC but they'll bring their A game this week and theirs is as good as anyone in the country.  Ducks should be laying 3 at the most and even that is being generous.  No line this week has more value, USC ML is a must play for me.

    ND coming off their biggest win in a decade.  Hate to do it but close your eyes and hit submit with Pitt.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Last week was a great week after two sub par weeks.  Can't complain, been a very good year so far.  Let's get to it.

    WU is turning into one of the biggest public dogs in weeks in a high profile game.  I love fading teams coming off their biggest win of the year, almost impossible to bring the same intensity the next week.  It's one of the best reasons to fade teams this time of the year, so many teams coming off  huge wins to catapult their season only to fall back to reality.  These kids aren't robots.  WU acted like they won the SB last week, time to get their asses kicked against a more than capable offense at home.  It's a name your score kind of game.   Cal by 17+.

    There are times to make spot plays and times you make line plays.  This would be the latter.  Miami Ohio coming off a huge rivalry game winning SU as a home pup and now their getting points from a 1-7 team?  The oddsmakers like Buffalo this week, who am I to argue.  

    Kent St ruins Rutgers season as almost a 2 TD dog and now is laying DD points the following week.  Have to fade them this week, pretty basic.  Maybe the cover maybe they don't, who cares.  It's the proper play long term which is the only thing you should be worried about.  

    Georgia was in a great spot last week because of how big a win Florida had the previous week.  They find themselves in equally a bad spot coming off a season changing win, love how they are laying 2 TD's the next week.  Always fade a team coming off what you think is their best win of the year, this applies as to why you fade Georgia.

    If I told you USC has more talent than Oregon what would you say?  USC has more NFL talent and expect them to win outright.  The reason they lose is they have an awful coach and no mental toughness on the road.  They face a team who doesn't scare me even a little.  How can you say Oregon is a good team when we know nothing about them?  They have played literally nobody so far.  We don't know if their defense is good or how explosive they really are on offense.  Now they're laying more than a TD on the road to a team with more talent?  Line is a joke on so many levels.  They were toying with Zona who I had last week and the wheels fell off, that won't happen at Mem. Coliseum.  Ducks backers are in for a rude awakening, Ducks will be fortunate to come out of there with a win.  Everyone is so down on USC but they'll bring their A game this week and theirs is as good as anyone in the country.  Ducks should be laying 3 at the most and even that is being generous.  No line this week has more value, USC ML is a must play for me.

    ND coming off their biggest win in a decade.  Hate to do it but close your eyes and hit submit with Pitt.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 10:08 PM ET #2

    shock factor 
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    shock factor 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 10:10 PM ET #3

    Doubt I'll play it but OREST season will come crashing down fast.  They did it with mirrors for much of the season and now that their perfect season is over look for a little let down this week.  Teams coming off their first loss after having a great year have a tough time not hanging their heads a bit the next week.  ARZST will be in their shirts all game.
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    Doubt I'll play it but OREST season will come crashing down fast.  They did it with mirrors for much of the season and now that their perfect season is over look for a little let down this week.  Teams coming off their first loss after having a great year have a tough time not hanging their heads a bit the next week.  ARZST will be in their shirts all game.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 10:11 PM ET #4

    Agree with you on literally every game.
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    Agree with you on literally every game.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 10:11 PM ET #5

    Shock factor drsports?  Not sure what your're talking about.  
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    Shock factor drsports?  Not sure what your're talking about.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 10:15 PM ET #6

    So I'm not the only one who likes Buffalo this week, Thanks for a very nice read. Good Luck on your [;ays
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    So I'm not the only one who likes Buffalo this week, Thanks for a very nice read. Good Luck on your [;ays
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 10:20 PM ET #7

    I figured you would be on LSU as well
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    I figured you would be on LSU as well
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 10:20 PM ET #8

    I figured you would be on LSU as well
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    I figured you would be on LSU as well
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 11:15 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Last week was a great week after two sub par weeks.  Can't complain, been a very good year so far.  Let's get to it.

    WU is turning into one of the biggest public dogs in weeks in a high profile game.  I love fading teams coming off their biggest win of the year, almost impossible to bring the same intensity the next week.  It's one of the best reasons to fade teams this time of the year, so many teams coming off  huge wins to catapult their season only to fall back to reality.  These kids aren't robots.  WU acted like they won the SB last week, time to get their asses kicked against a more than capable offense at home.  It's a name your score kind of game.   Cal by 17+.

    There are times to make spot plays and times you make line plays.  This would be the latter.  Miami Ohio coming off a huge rivalry game winning SU as a home pup and now their getting points from a 1-7 team?  The oddsmakers like Buffalo this week, who am I to argue.  

    Kent St ruins Rutgers season as almost a 2 TD dog and now is laying DD points the following week.  Have to fade them this week, pretty basic.  Maybe the cover maybe they don't, who cares.  It's the proper play long term which is the only thing you should be worried about.  

    Georgia was in a great spot last week because of how big a win Florida had the previous week.  They find themselves in equally a bad spot coming off a season changing win, love how they are laying 2 TD's the next week.  Always fade a team coming off what you think is their best win of the year, this applies as to why you fade Georgia.

    If I told you USC has more talent than Oregon what would you say?  USC has more NFL talent and expect them to win outright.  The reason they lose is they have an awful coach and no mental toughness on the road.  They face a team who doesn't scare me even a little.  How can you say Oregon is a good team when we know nothing about them?  They have played literally nobody so far.  We don't know if their defense is good or how explosive they really are on offense.  Now they're laying more than a TD on the road to a team with more talent?  Line is a joke on so many levels.  They were toying with Zona who I had last week and the wheels fell off, that won't happen at Mem. Coliseum.  Ducks backers are in for a rude awakening, Ducks will be fortunate to come out of there with a win.  Everyone is so down on USC but they'll bring their A game this week and theirs is as good as anyone in the country.  Ducks should be laying 3 at the most and even that is being generous.  No line this week has more value, USC ML is a must play for me.

    ND coming off their biggest win in a decade.  Hate to do it but close your eyes and hit submit with Pitt.



    I have been on Ole Miss and Buff.  Trust me on this, I have a pretty good reputation at another site.  I am the true definition of a dog lover, contrarian, and hate road favorites.  Not every team coming off a big win is in a let down situation...I think if there are multiple big wins then yes ex Gators.  
    Anyhow, I got Oregon early -6 bought 1.  Very Large and in a couple really big teasers with Bama and Kst.
    I said if there is a week I can tease down Bama and ducks under a FG I would unload on this situation.  Welp, this is the one time all year.
    I don't look into stats at all.  Emotional mindset is much bigger than stats I believe.  USC is pretty lucky not to have 4 losses.  Was and Utah was a struggle.  I don't look at who teams have played and try to compare either..that's ridiculous.  I live in FL. 

     I have a small connection indirectly with the Oregon program.  I found this incredibly fascinating but the Ducks at times in practice before the season...their 2nd team would run USC offensive plays and how to scheme against them.  Coming into the season they had pegged USC the team to beat.  They diagramed offensive line schemes USC runs, how the backs line up and how to get Barkley to go thru his progressions hoping they can get to him before he finds that open man.  You are going to find the Duck secondary doing all kinds of different techniques including a special package like a cover 3...
    Anything can happen.  My true only concern is the fresh qb for ducks.

    USC has talent no doubt but sometimes that's not enough.  Coach Kelly is different this year.  I like the coaching match up this year.

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Last week was a great week after two sub par weeks.  Can't complain, been a very good year so far.  Let's get to it.

    WU is turning into one of the biggest public dogs in weeks in a high profile game.  I love fading teams coming off their biggest win of the year, almost impossible to bring the same intensity the next week.  It's one of the best reasons to fade teams this time of the year, so many teams coming off  huge wins to catapult their season only to fall back to reality.  These kids aren't robots.  WU acted like they won the SB last week, time to get their asses kicked against a more than capable offense at home.  It's a name your score kind of game.   Cal by 17+.

    There are times to make spot plays and times you make line plays.  This would be the latter.  Miami Ohio coming off a huge rivalry game winning SU as a home pup and now their getting points from a 1-7 team?  The oddsmakers like Buffalo this week, who am I to argue.  

    Kent St ruins Rutgers season as almost a 2 TD dog and now is laying DD points the following week.  Have to fade them this week, pretty basic.  Maybe the cover maybe they don't, who cares.  It's the proper play long term which is the only thing you should be worried about.  

    Georgia was in a great spot last week because of how big a win Florida had the previous week.  They find themselves in equally a bad spot coming off a season changing win, love how they are laying 2 TD's the next week.  Always fade a team coming off what you think is their best win of the year, this applies as to why you fade Georgia.

    If I told you USC has more talent than Oregon what would you say?  USC has more NFL talent and expect them to win outright.  The reason they lose is they have an awful coach and no mental toughness on the road.  They face a team who doesn't scare me even a little.  How can you say Oregon is a good team when we know nothing about them?  They have played literally nobody so far.  We don't know if their defense is good or how explosive they really are on offense.  Now they're laying more than a TD on the road to a team with more talent?  Line is a joke on so many levels.  They were toying with Zona who I had last week and the wheels fell off, that won't happen at Mem. Coliseum.  Ducks backers are in for a rude awakening, Ducks will be fortunate to come out of there with a win.  Everyone is so down on USC but they'll bring their A game this week and theirs is as good as anyone in the country.  Ducks should be laying 3 at the most and even that is being generous.  No line this week has more value, USC ML is a must play for me.

    ND coming off their biggest win in a decade.  Hate to do it but close your eyes and hit submit with Pitt.



    I have been on Ole Miss and Buff.  Trust me on this, I have a pretty good reputation at another site.  I am the true definition of a dog lover, contrarian, and hate road favorites.  Not every team coming off a big win is in a let down situation...I think if there are multiple big wins then yes ex Gators.  
    Anyhow, I got Oregon early -6 bought 1.  Very Large and in a couple really big teasers with Bama and Kst.
    I said if there is a week I can tease down Bama and ducks under a FG I would unload on this situation.  Welp, this is the one time all year.
    I don't look into stats at all.  Emotional mindset is much bigger than stats I believe.  USC is pretty lucky not to have 4 losses.  Was and Utah was a struggle.  I don't look at who teams have played and try to compare either..that's ridiculous.  I live in FL. 

     I have a small connection indirectly with the Oregon program.  I found this incredibly fascinating but the Ducks at times in practice before the season...their 2nd team would run USC offensive plays and how to scheme against them.  Coming into the season they had pegged USC the team to beat.  They diagramed offensive line schemes USC runs, how the backs line up and how to get Barkley to go thru his progressions hoping they can get to him before he finds that open man.  You are going to find the Duck secondary doing all kinds of different techniques including a special package like a cover 3...
    Anything can happen.  My true only concern is the fresh qb for ducks.

    USC has talent no doubt but sometimes that's not enough.  Coach Kelly is different this year.  I like the coaching match up this year.

    good luck

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 11:22 PM ET #10

    with you on Cal and USC
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    with you on Cal and USC
     
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    Lean your way on a bunch. 

    Lsu is such an outrageously hip dog it's boggling my mind. Like the book is gonna just hand you 4 free points in the biggest game of the year to date. Read a while ago how every year the national champion covers at a very very healthy clip in hindsight when the year is over, sirens go off in my head looking at the Bama line. 

    Florida is the most ideal letdown spot ever. Not only are their national title hopes over but their sec division title hopes are realistically over too, now that offense has to beat somebody by 17 the next week? Missouri is nothing to write home about but they'll show up here and make a game of it IMO. 
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    Lean your way on a bunch. 

    Lsu is such an outrageously hip dog it's boggling my mind. Like the book is gonna just hand you 4 free points in the biggest game of the year to date. Read a while ago how every year the national champion covers at a very very healthy clip in hindsight when the year is over, sirens go off in my head looking at the Bama line. 

    Florida is the most ideal letdown spot ever. Not only are their national title hopes over but their sec division title hopes are realistically over too, now that offense has to beat somebody by 17 the next week? Missouri is nothing to write home about but they'll show up here and make a game of it IMO. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 11:36 PM ET #12

    And also, I wish this pellini-Martinez nucleus could just stay together forever. Those two on the road off a big win, that just feels like stealing. 
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    And also, I wish this pellini-Martinez nucleus could just stay together forever. Those two on the road off a big win, that just feels like stealing. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 11:43 PM ET #13

    Who has USC played? The only good (decent) team they played was Stanford.. and they lost. If you are going to judge one team by a standard apply it to both of them. Also, if Arizona is nobody, shouldn't USC have destroyed them last week?
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    Who has USC played? The only good (decent) team they played was Stanford.. and they lost. If you are going to judge one team by a standard apply it to both of them. Also, if Arizona is nobody, shouldn't USC have destroyed them last week?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2012 - 11:56 PM ET #14

    TheWise I fade teams coming off what I believe is their biggest win of the year which is why I'm fading Georgia, ND and Kent St.  I don't fade just because of a big win, there is more to it.  

    Oregon can do whatever they want on defense, the best players on the field will be on USC's side of the ball.  The talent discrepancy isn't even close to who has more talent or NFL players on the roster top to bottom.  I agree the Frosh will be the biggest problem, how is he going to handle this kind of environment is the biggest question.  They lack focus as a team which is the HC fault but that won't be a problem this week.  

    raems I agree with you on Bama.  It has to be them or nothing, watching LSU trying to score points is painful.  

    Not so sure about Florida because of the line.  It's a high line for a team that doesn't score points which makes me think they win by 3 TD's plus.  Staying away from it so GL if you take Mizzou.


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    TheWise I fade teams coming off what I believe is their biggest win of the year which is why I'm fading Georgia, ND and Kent St.  I don't fade just because of a big win, there is more to it.  

    Oregon can do whatever they want on defense, the best players on the field will be on USC's side of the ball.  The talent discrepancy isn't even close to who has more talent or NFL players on the roster top to bottom.  I agree the Frosh will be the biggest problem, how is he going to handle this kind of environment is the biggest question.  They lack focus as a team which is the HC fault but that won't be a problem this week.  

    raems I agree with you on Bama.  It has to be them or nothing, watching LSU trying to score points is painful.  

    Not so sure about Florida because of the line.  It's a high line for a team that doesn't score points which makes me think they win by 3 TD's plus.  Staying away from it so GL if you take Mizzou.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2012 - 12:03 AM ET #15

    Wilfred I'm banking on the most talented team in the country playing with a chip on their shoulder.   
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    Wilfred I'm banking on the most talented team in the country playing with a chip on their shoulder.   
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2012 - 12:06 AM ET #16

    NIce plays 165. Disagree on Ore State lean. AZ State is the team with the wheels slightly coming off... Lost 2 or the last 3 games. 

    Think the night game at Beaver stadium is enough to get them ready to play and play well against a limping AZ state squad.

     

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    NIce plays 165. Disagree on Ore State lean. AZ State is the team with the wheels slightly coming off... Lost 2 or the last 3 games. 

    Think the night game at Beaver stadium is enough to get them ready to play and play well against a limping AZ state squad.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2012 - 12:07 AM ET #17

    gl my friend love pitt leaning usc maybe we get higher then 7 on gameday
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    gl my friend love pitt leaning usc maybe we get higher then 7 on gameday
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2012 - 12:11 AM ET #18

    Vegas not betting the game, just thought I'd give an opinion on it.  That was a brutal loss, make a nice comeback to tie it only to lose it late.  The QB played awful coming back from injury, maybe he plays better but not the ideal spot.
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    Vegas not betting the game, just thought I'd give an opinion on it.  That was a brutal loss, make a nice comeback to tie it only to lose it late.  The QB played awful coming back from injury, maybe he plays better but not the ideal spot.
     
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    165, I want to throw my .02 in on the USC game.  I think you may be wrong about USC having more NFL talent.  Maybe more in the first round but not overall.  Two in their secondary and front seven get drafted at least and then their offense has four at the very least.  This leads me to the next point you have wrong.  USC was not toying with Zona last week.  It looked like it but that's just how they play and how the play calling goes.  I respect your opinion but you are wrong here my man.  Kiffin is BY FAR inferior to Kelly and it will come out in this game. It'll be closer than people think but good grief the ducks will win by ten at the very absolute least.  It's the way they are coached, the way they play, their entire mentality.  You think that USC has played anyone?? Please, they lost to a very overrated Standford club.  They have NO depth and it will show when Oregon pulls out the fast pace for FOUR FULL quarters.  At worst, they cover in the fourth.  Different teams, different years my friend. 
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    165, I want to throw my .02 in on the USC game.  I think you may be wrong about USC having more NFL talent.  Maybe more in the first round but not overall.  Two in their secondary and front seven get drafted at least and then their offense has four at the very least.  This leads me to the next point you have wrong.  USC was not toying with Zona last week.  It looked like it but that's just how they play and how the play calling goes.  I respect your opinion but you are wrong here my man.  Kiffin is BY FAR inferior to Kelly and it will come out in this game. It'll be closer than people think but good grief the ducks will win by ten at the very absolute least.  It's the way they are coached, the way they play, their entire mentality.  You think that USC has played anyone?? Please, they lost to a very overrated Standford club.  They have NO depth and it will show when Oregon pulls out the fast pace for FOUR FULL quarters.  At worst, they cover in the fourth.  Different teams, different years my friend. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2012 - 2:02 AM ET #20

    Wheaty, I couldn't agree more. Ducks repeatedly take their foot off the pedal in 2nd halves to give experience to future starters. You are also spot-on regarding USC's lack of depth, then take a gander at their list of injured players lost for the year.  You also must factor in the complete lack of respect in the computer rankings for this team. NO DOUBT the Duck coaches understand their team and this game will be compared with how Notre Dame does in their future matchup with USC. That gives Ducks a great incentive to run up the score if possible. As far as competition, Oregon defeated an Ariz St. team that was touted as 2nd best in the Pac-12 - on the road.  Lastly, USC this year has repeatedly disappointed, conversely, the Ducks have repeatedly exceeded expectations.
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    Wheaty, I couldn't agree more. Ducks repeatedly take their foot off the pedal in 2nd halves to give experience to future starters. You are also spot-on regarding USC's lack of depth, then take a gander at their list of injured players lost for the year.  You also must factor in the complete lack of respect in the computer rankings for this team. NO DOUBT the Duck coaches understand their team and this game will be compared with how Notre Dame does in their future matchup with USC. That gives Ducks a great incentive to run up the score if possible. As far as competition, Oregon defeated an Ariz St. team that was touted as 2nd best in the Pac-12 - on the road.  Lastly, USC this year has repeatedly disappointed, conversely, the Ducks have repeatedly exceeded expectations.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2012 - 2:55 AM ET #21

    For everyone ripping Kiffin and fellatio'ing Chip Kelly, just who exactly won last year?  

    I agree w/ 165.  This is USC's bowl game essentially.  Bet  against them when they play Az State next weekend, as it sandwiches the Oregon and UCLA then ND games.

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    For everyone ripping Kiffin and fellatio'ing Chip Kelly, just who exactly won last year?  

    I agree w/ 165.  This is USC's bowl game essentially.  Bet  against them when they play Az State next weekend, as it sandwiches the Oregon and UCLA then ND games.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2012 - 7:59 AM ET #22

    "Thanks" for the insight.  My fade team this week is Kansas.  They played their hearts out against Texas last week at home. Doing everything they could to get their first Big 12 win. Only to watch Texas score a touchdown with 12 seconds left and yank their hearts out. I don't see how Kansas gets up for an away game at Baylor this week. 

    Baylor  -17 is my pick 
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    "Thanks" for the insight.  My fade team this week is Kansas.  They played their hearts out against Texas last week at home. Doing everything they could to get their first Big 12 win. Only to watch Texas score a touchdown with 12 seconds left and yank their hearts out. I don't see how Kansas gets up for an away game at Baylor this week. 

    Baylor  -17 is my pick 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2012 - 8:00 AM ET #23

    Weakest USC defense I've seen in 10 years +
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    Weakest USC defense I've seen in 10 years +
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2012 - 8:50 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by ceveche88:

    with you on Cal and USC
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceveche88:

    with you on Cal and USC
     
     
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