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    the gipper knows notre dame and he says...

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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2008 - 10:50 PM ET #1

    After two decent performances at home against middling competition, this is a big step for a relatively young Irish team: a road game against an opponent that appears on paper to be well ahead of Notre Dame's first two conquests.  I think the visiting Irish catch a break with this game not being at night, and when you consider the fluky tendency in this series of the road team winning, it makes you ponder if that line, which has ballooned towards double digits, may be getting a little high.  Any sort of victory will revolve around stopping Ringer and a Spartan rushing attack that has gouged the Irish over the last few years, and I'm not sure the Irish have the beef up front to slow him.  I would advocate just cramming the box and putting the pressure on the Notre Dame secondary, a unit whose depth and talent impress me more and more every time I think about them.  Michigan State has a clear advantage when its their rushing attack against the Notre Dame front four, but when it becomes Hoyer against David Bruton and Kyle McCarthy and their merry bunch of corners, I would say the pendulum swings completely to the other side. 

     

    For the Irish, the biggest match up in this game will be Clausen, Tate, Floyd, Grimes and everyone else against the Michigan State secondary, because if the Irish can explode like it appears to have the ability to do, the pressure being firmly put on Hoyer is a great benefit.  If Otis Wiley and the gang can pick Clausen off a few times and throw Weis' offense out of whack, things could get ugly, especially if the offensive line can't continue their level of play in regards to pass protection.  

    I was very optimistic going into the Michigan game, and despite my general attitude towards Irish football of "Don't get your hopes up," I'm not feeling very gloomy about the trip to East Lansing, either.  Expectations are rather low, because as long as the Irish don't embarrass themselves, not many people are giving them a chance at victory here.  I wouldn't be surprised if they stumbled their way to 3-0, but the final score isn't as important as the team continuing to make strides in the right direction as the season continues.

                                   Sparty 31   Irish  21

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    After two decent performances at home against middling competition, this is a big step for a relatively young Irish team: a road game against an opponent that appears on paper to be well ahead of Notre Dame's first two conquests.  I think the visiting Irish catch a break with this game not being at night, and when you consider the fluky tendency in this series of the road team winning, it makes you ponder if that line, which has ballooned towards double digits, may be getting a little high.  Any sort of victory will revolve around stopping Ringer and a Spartan rushing attack that has gouged the Irish over the last few years, and I'm not sure the Irish have the beef up front to slow him.  I would advocate just cramming the box and putting the pressure on the Notre Dame secondary, a unit whose depth and talent impress me more and more every time I think about them.  Michigan State has a clear advantage when its their rushing attack against the Notre Dame front four, but when it becomes Hoyer against David Bruton and Kyle McCarthy and their merry bunch of corners, I would say the pendulum swings completely to the other side. 

     

    For the Irish, the biggest match up in this game will be Clausen, Tate, Floyd, Grimes and everyone else against the Michigan State secondary, because if the Irish can explode like it appears to have the ability to do, the pressure being firmly put on Hoyer is a great benefit.  If Otis Wiley and the gang can pick Clausen off a few times and throw Weis' offense out of whack, things could get ugly, especially if the offensive line can't continue their level of play in regards to pass protection.  

    I was very optimistic going into the Michigan game, and despite my general attitude towards Irish football of "Don't get your hopes up," I'm not feeling very gloomy about the trip to East Lansing, either.  Expectations are rather low, because as long as the Irish don't embarrass themselves, not many people are giving them a chance at victory here.  I wouldn't be surprised if they stumbled their way to 3-0, but the final score isn't as important as the team continuing to make strides in the right direction as the season continues.

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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2008 - 11:09 PM ET #2

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    Agreed... may be worse than 10
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    Agreed... may be worse than 10
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2008 - 4:04 AM ET #4

    hope your right i was a little worried about the 8.5 i had so i teased state down to -2.5 don't know that ill need it but i don't see them losing even if the irish keep it close. if hoyer can play well state shouldnt have any problems. I love that its a 330 game most of us spartans will be tailgating for a good 6 hours so it should be pretty rowdy tomorow. loved that game last week always love seein michigan go down
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    hope your right i was a little worried about the 8.5 i had so i teased state down to -2.5 don't know that ill need it but i don't see them losing even if the irish keep it close. if hoyer can play well state shouldnt have any problems. I love that its a 330 game most of us spartans will be tailgating for a good 6 hours so it should be pretty rowdy tomorow. loved that game last week always love seein michigan go down
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2008 - 1:48 PM ET #5

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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2008 - 1:52 PM ET #6

    I didnt even need to read your write-up to know the Irish are losing this one. They played worse then Michigan last week (albeit the 6 TOs in  which 4 of them were handwrapped gifts).
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    I didnt even need to read your write-up to know the Irish are losing this one. They played worse then Michigan last week (albeit the 6 TOs in  which 4 of them were handwrapped gifts).
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:

    I didnt even need to read your write-up to know the Irish are losing this one. They played worse then Michigan last week (albeit the 6 TOs in  which 4 of them were handwrapped gifts).

     

    ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:

    I didnt even need to read your write-up to know the Irish are losing this one. They played worse then Michigan last week (albeit the 6 TOs in  which 4 of them were handwrapped gifts).

     

    ????

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2008 - 1:55 PM ET #8

    Love the writeups Gipper. Sorry to say, but I will be against your Irish today. GL w/ any plays
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    Love the writeups Gipper. Sorry to say, but I will be against your Irish today. GL w/ any plays
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2008 - 1:56 PM ET #9

    I love Celtic music!  Go IRish! 
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    I love Celtic music!  Go IRish! 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2008 - 1:59 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:

    I didnt even need to read your write-up to know the Irish are losing this one. They played worse then Michigan last week (albeit the 6 TOs in  which 4 of them were handwrapped gifts).

     

    Gott love the haters...makes every win thats much sweeter cuz it really pisses them off .  Go Irish!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:

    I didnt even need to read your write-up to know the Irish are losing this one. They played worse then Michigan last week (albeit the 6 TOs in  which 4 of them were handwrapped gifts).

     

    Gott love the haters...makes every win thats much sweeter cuz it really pisses them off .  Go Irish!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2008 - 2:00 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by the gipper:

     

    ????

    In short: your write up is very nice but it is too long and almost not needed in determining why the Irish lose this game. The Irish right now are not playing well (mainly Clausen) so I didnt need to read 3 paragraphs as to why I should take Sparty and the points

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    Quote Originally Posted by the gipper:

     

    ????

    In short: your write up is very nice but it is too long and almost not needed in determining why the Irish lose this game. The Irish right now are not playing well (mainly Clausen) so I didnt need to read 3 paragraphs as to why I should take Sparty and the points

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightinirishmen:

     

    Gott love the haters...makes every win thats much sweeter cuz it really pisses them off .  Go Irish!

    Haters??? 

    Didn't Gipper pick the MSU to cover?...so I take it that I must be hating on you?

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    Gott love the haters...makes every win thats much sweeter cuz it really pisses them off .  Go Irish!

    Haters??? 

    Didn't Gipper pick the MSU to cover?...so I take it that I must be hating on you?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2008 - 2:09 PM ET #13

    Your post mentions nothing about covering.  Simply making excuses for Michigan losing last week and how you didnt need any write up to tell you how ND was gonna lose today...you sir, are a hater.  Thats ok though..thats why they play the game.
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    Your post mentions nothing about covering.  Simply making excuses for Michigan losing last week and how you didnt need any write up to tell you how ND was gonna lose today...you sir, are a hater.  Thats ok though..thats why they play the game.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightinirishmen:

    Your post mentions nothing about covering.  Simply making excuses for Michigan losing last week and how you didnt need any write up to tell you how ND was gonna lose today...you sir, are a hater.  Thats ok though..thats why they play the game.

    Where u at bud? My advice to you is it doesnt pay to be a homer. If their your team root for them but dont bet on them or you'll be a very angry fan. Today my friend was an easy W for MSU. Leave your feelings and associations at the door this is sports gambling my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightinirishmen:

    Your post mentions nothing about covering.  Simply making excuses for Michigan losing last week and how you didnt need any write up to tell you how ND was gonna lose today...you sir, are a hater.  Thats ok though..thats why they play the game.

    Where u at bud? My advice to you is it doesnt pay to be a homer. If their your team root for them but dont bet on them or you'll be a very angry fan. Today my friend was an easy W for MSU. Leave your feelings and associations at the door this is sports gambling my friend.

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