Okis ST Cowboys have won 4 of last 5 from the Wildcats. Too much familiarity, too much offense to keep K State's QB on the sidelines. +9 is waaay too much here.Don't be intimidated bettors. This is a legit upset in the making. K-St trying NOT to lose, will get drilled by a poised and knowledgeable program. Sorry, but that's life. Dreams shatter before our eyes on a daily basis. Get used to it.
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Okis ST Cowboys have won 4 of last 5 from the Wildcats. Too much familiarity, too much offense to keep K State's QB on the sidelines. +9 is waaay too much here.Don't be intimidated bettors. This is a legit upset in the making. K-St trying NOT to lose, will get drilled by a poised and knowledgeable program. Sorry, but that's life. Dreams shatter before our eyes on a daily basis. Get used to it.
I don't know, I just can't figure out OK St. I took them against AZ and Kansas and they sucked. Both were as road chalk though so getting +9.5 might not be so bad, but I would put that ml bet on something else. Gl though
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I don't know, I just can't figure out OK St. I took them against AZ and Kansas and they sucked. Both were as road chalk though so getting +9.5 might not be so bad, but I would put that ml bet on something else. Gl though
I don't know, I just can't figure out OK St. I took them against AZ and Kansas and they sucked. Both were as road chalk though so getting +9.5 might not be so bad, but I would put that ml bet on something else. Gl though
kansas game was bad luck. Look at the weather that day.
Either way i am on kstate -8.5
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Quote Originally Posted by tt808:
I don't know, I just can't figure out OK St. I took them against AZ and Kansas and they sucked. Both were as road chalk though so getting +9.5 might not be so bad, but I would put that ml bet on something else. Gl though
kansas game was bad luck. Look at the weather that day.
The starting linebacker for K-State is out for this game. You heard it hear first. According to his tweets, he has been on crutches all week. reason you don't know about it, is coach Snyder is a crodgety bastard who doesn't reveal that information to the media.
OK St has had injuries (incl at QB), but the system will prevail here.
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The starting linebacker for K-State is out for this game. You heard it hear first. According to his tweets, he has been on crutches all week. reason you don't know about it, is coach Snyder is a crodgety bastard who doesn't reveal that information to the media.
OK St has had injuries (incl at QB), but the system will prevail here.
Payback for Iowa st crushing their National Championship dreams last year??....Kst hasnt made any mistakes all season...surely that cant stay true all season??? Lunt is back...should be an interesting game...i wont be playing it.....watching it for sure though!!!
BOL
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Payback for Iowa st crushing their National Championship dreams last year??....Kst hasnt made any mistakes all season...surely that cant stay true all season??? Lunt is back...should be an interesting game...i wont be playing it.....watching it for sure though!!!
Payback for Iowa st crushing their National Championship dreams last year??....Kst hasnt made any mistakes all season...surely that cant stay true all season??? Lunt is back...should be an interesting game...i wont be playing it.....watching it for sure though!!!
BOL
That was just a flat offense on the road vs the cyclones who were a .500 team, and I think they can avoid an offensive breakdown here. That's the culture in the Big 12, and youy bet they'd love to be giant killas. This is their Jan 2 Bowl game, and a real chance to get an improved Bowl Game w/ a win.
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Quote Originally Posted by Capper007:
Payback for Iowa st crushing their National Championship dreams last year??....Kst hasnt made any mistakes all season...surely that cant stay true all season??? Lunt is back...should be an interesting game...i wont be playing it.....watching it for sure though!!!
BOL
That was just a flat offense on the road vs the cyclones who were a .500 team, and I think they can avoid an offensive breakdown here. That's the culture in the Big 12, and youy bet they'd love to be giant killas. This is their Jan 2 Bowl game, and a real chance to get an improved Bowl Game w/ a win.
The starting linebacker for K-State is out for this game. You heard it hear first. According to his tweets, he has been on crutches all week. reason you don't know about it, is coach Snyder is a crodgety bastard who doesn't reveal that information to the media.
OK St has had injuries (incl at QB), but the system will prevail here.
As much as we are sorry to see Tre Walker injured, this will not have a significant impact on defense. Yes, Tre is a great leader out there but he has only contributed to 19 tackles this year. Tuggle and Childs will get the job done. Tuggle will definately see more playing time which is a good thing for us. Don't let this change your handicapping to the game.
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Quote Originally Posted by Quantum_Leap:
The starting linebacker for K-State is out for this game. You heard it hear first. According to his tweets, he has been on crutches all week. reason you don't know about it, is coach Snyder is a crodgety bastard who doesn't reveal that information to the media.
OK St has had injuries (incl at QB), but the system will prevail here.
As much as we are sorry to see Tre Walker injured, this will not have a significant impact on defense. Yes, Tre is a great leader out there but he has only contributed to 19 tackles this year. Tuggle and Childs will get the job done. Tuggle will definately see more playing time which is a good thing for us. Don't let this change your handicapping to the game.
i'm a big fan of Okla St football... ask around, and you will find out that nobody on this site was a stronger proponent of OSU in the NC game... they were the 2nd best team in football last year, without question...
but this is the sorriest OSU football i have seen in a LONG LONG time... even the people who live in Tulsa and Stillwater recognize they have nothing to work with this year...
they are terrible... this is a bigtime mismatch!
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i'm a big fan of Okla St football... ask around, and you will find out that nobody on this site was a stronger proponent of OSU in the NC game... they were the 2nd best team in football last year, without question...
but this is the sorriest OSU football i have seen in a LONG LONG time... even the people who live in Tulsa and Stillwater recognize they have nothing to work with this year...
Okis ST Cowboys have won 4 of last 5 from the Wildcats. Too much familiarity, too much offense to keep K State's QB on the sidelines. +9 is waaay too much here.Don't be intimidated bettors. This is a legit upset in the making. K-St trying NOT to lose, will get drilled by a poised and knowledgeable program. Sorry, but that's life. Dreams shatter before our eyes on a daily basis. Get used to it.
not until the last half of November for a team like Kansas St... only the fraudulent teams start their collapse this early... KSU is no joke, and no fraud... (needless to say, OSU is a huge fraud... at least if anybody thinks they don't suck)...
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Quote Originally Posted by Quantum_Leap:
Okis ST Cowboys have won 4 of last 5 from the Wildcats. Too much familiarity, too much offense to keep K State's QB on the sidelines. +9 is waaay too much here.Don't be intimidated bettors. This is a legit upset in the making. K-St trying NOT to lose, will get drilled by a poised and knowledgeable program. Sorry, but that's life. Dreams shatter before our eyes on a daily basis. Get used to it.
not until the last half of November for a team like Kansas St... only the fraudulent teams start their collapse this early... KSU is no joke, and no fraud... (needless to say, OSU is a huge fraud... at least if anybody thinks they don't suck)...
The starting linebacker for K-State is out for this game. You heard it hear first. According to his tweets, he has been on crutches all week. reason you don't know about it, is coach Snyder is a crodgety bastard who doesn't reveal that information to the media.
OK St has had injuries (incl at QB), but the system will prevail here.
BTW, Snyder doesn't have to say shit about injuries. He never has and he never will. He sure as hell isn't going to do it for people looking to handicap a football game, like yourself.
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Quote Originally Posted by Quantum_Leap:
The starting linebacker for K-State is out for this game. You heard it hear first. According to his tweets, he has been on crutches all week. reason you don't know about it, is coach Snyder is a crodgety bastard who doesn't reveal that information to the media.
OK St has had injuries (incl at QB), but the system will prevail here.
BTW, Snyder doesn't have to say shit about injuries. He never has and he never will. He sure as hell isn't going to do it for people looking to handicap a football game, like yourself.
Kst really needed OU to shine (against ND) ...may cost them a chance if there Oregonand Bama remain undefeated!!
ksu doesnt have a conference championship game ..like oregon does, if both remain undefeated...i would be VERY surprised to see KSU ahead of oregon who has yet to play the MEAT of their schedule!!!!
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Kst really needed OU to shine (against ND) ...may cost them a chance if there Oregonand Bama remain undefeated!!
ksu doesnt have a conference championship game ..like oregon does, if both remain undefeated...i would be VERY surprised to see KSU ahead of oregon who has yet to play the MEAT of their schedule!!!!
Okis ST Cowboys have won 4 of last 5 from the Wildcats. Too much familiarity, too much offense to keep K State's QB on the sidelines. +9 is waaay too much here.Don't be intimidated bettors. This is a legit upset in the making. K-St trying NOT to lose, will get drilled by a poised and knowledgeable program. Sorry, but that's life. Dreams shatter before our eyes on a daily basis. Get used to it.
I think there's some merit to what you're saying here. The closer K State gets to the finish line, the tighter they will play. But, with their defense they will never be out of a game. That being said 9 points is too many to give to a team of Okla St's caliber.
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Quote Originally Posted by Quantum_Leap:
Okis ST Cowboys have won 4 of last 5 from the Wildcats. Too much familiarity, too much offense to keep K State's QB on the sidelines. +9 is waaay too much here.Don't be intimidated bettors. This is a legit upset in the making. K-St trying NOT to lose, will get drilled by a poised and knowledgeable program. Sorry, but that's life. Dreams shatter before our eyes on a daily basis. Get used to it.
I think there's some merit to what you're saying here. The closer K State gets to the finish line, the tighter they will play. But, with their defense they will never be out of a game. That being said 9 points is too many to give to a team of Okla St's caliber.
Kst really needed OU to shine (against ND) ...may cost them a chance if there Oregonand Bama remain undefeated!!
ksu doesnt have a conference championship game ..like oregon does, if both remain undefeated...i would be VERY surprised to see KSU ahead of oregon who has yet to play the MEAT of their schedule!!!!
i would take it one step further... i am worried that K St might not get into the NC game ahead of Oregon even if K St is undefeated and Oregon loses 1 game... the Big 12 isn't nearly as strong as it was last year, and they needed that win against OU to look huge... with WV and OU falling on their faces, the two big marquee wins lose some of their weight...
unfortunate, because i would love to see a K St - Alabama matchup... without question the two best coaches in CFB, squaring off against each other... i would pay to watch that on TV, seriously...
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Quote Originally Posted by Capper007:
Kst really needed OU to shine (against ND) ...may cost them a chance if there Oregonand Bama remain undefeated!!
ksu doesnt have a conference championship game ..like oregon does, if both remain undefeated...i would be VERY surprised to see KSU ahead of oregon who has yet to play the MEAT of their schedule!!!!
i would take it one step further... i am worried that K St might not get into the NC game ahead of Oregon even if K St is undefeated and Oregon loses 1 game... the Big 12 isn't nearly as strong as it was last year, and they needed that win against OU to look huge... with WV and OU falling on their faces, the two big marquee wins lose some of their weight...
unfortunate, because i would love to see a K St - Alabama matchup... without question the two best coaches in CFB, squaring off against each other... i would pay to watch that on TV, seriously...
Oregon.....High scoring....potentially beat USC twice (i expect USC to beat ND)....Very marketable...only team with a chance to beat Bama (majority opinion)
ND...Huge following..love or hate them....History...hugely marketable
KSU...no history, made a tshirt after beating OU this year....not marketable...not fancy...old man football ...not that much fun to watch!! Without Klein probably 6-6 team!!!
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O yea...if ND goes undefeated also....ARMAGEDDON
All teams Undefeated consider this!!!
Bama...In with one loss...no questions asked!!!
Oregon.....High scoring....potentially beat USC twice (i expect USC to beat ND)....Very marketable...only team with a chance to beat Bama (majority opinion)
ND...Huge following..love or hate them....History...hugely marketable
KSU...no history, made a tshirt after beating OU this year....not marketable...not fancy...old man football ...not that much fun to watch!! Without Klein probably 6-6 team!!!
The starting linebacker for K-State is out for this game. You heard it hear first. According to his tweets, he has been on crutches all week. reason you don't know about it, is coach Snyder is a crodgety bastard who doesn't reveal that information to the media.
OK St has had injuries (incl at QB), but the system will prevail here.
What do you know about Kst football? That LB you're speaking of (since you don't even know his name), is Tre Walker. Yes, he's finished for the season. You know who's replacing him? Jarell Childs. Do you know anything about him? This kids a stud, and he's just as good as Walker, if not, he maybe even has a slight edge.
And if you think just because we don't have a LB we won't beat OSU, then you're out of your mind. I will say, I treat every game as a potential loss, however, are team is playing just as good as anyone in the country right now, and I think we handle OSU with ease.
...on a side note, I call it how it is, and if I were to bet on the TTU game last week, I would have told you to take TTU and the points.
Don't write something unless you have better info.
EMAW
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Quote Originally Posted by Quantum_Leap:
The starting linebacker for K-State is out for this game. You heard it hear first. According to his tweets, he has been on crutches all week. reason you don't know about it, is coach Snyder is a crodgety bastard who doesn't reveal that information to the media.
OK St has had injuries (incl at QB), but the system will prevail here.
What do you know about Kst football? That LB you're speaking of (since you don't even know his name), is Tre Walker. Yes, he's finished for the season. You know who's replacing him? Jarell Childs. Do you know anything about him? This kids a stud, and he's just as good as Walker, if not, he maybe even has a slight edge.
And if you think just because we don't have a LB we won't beat OSU, then you're out of your mind. I will say, I treat every game as a potential loss, however, are team is playing just as good as anyone in the country right now, and I think we handle OSU with ease.
...on a side note, I call it how it is, and if I were to bet on the TTU game last week, I would have told you to take TTU and the points.
Don't write something unless you have better info.
KSU... no history, made a tshirt after beating OU this year.... not marketable... not fancy... old man football... not that much fun to watch!! Without Klein probably 6-6 team!!!
holy crap! i never get tired of watching the idiot masses of covers expose themselves to the world...
no history? born yesterday, were we? like i said... you just exposed yourself...
as for your last statement... as wrong as wrong gets! but to explain why you are wrong would require you to have a fucking clue about CFB... which you just demonstrated very clearly you do not!
there is no team in CFB that i enjoy watching more than Kansas St... that ream represents everything that is great about CFB (this year)... that is how CFB is supposed to be played... and the fact is, Bill Snyder has proven time and time again that he can plug in ANYBODY to the QB position and make them a Heisman candidate...
could you possibly know any less about what you're spewing?
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Quote Originally Posted by Capper007:
KSU... no history, made a tshirt after beating OU this year.... not marketable... not fancy... old man football... not that much fun to watch!! Without Klein probably 6-6 team!!!
holy crap! i never get tired of watching the idiot masses of covers expose themselves to the world...
no history? born yesterday, were we? like i said... you just exposed yourself...
as for your last statement... as wrong as wrong gets! but to explain why you are wrong would require you to have a fucking clue about CFB... which you just demonstrated very clearly you do not!
there is no team in CFB that i enjoy watching more than Kansas St... that ream represents everything that is great about CFB (this year)... that is how CFB is supposed to be played... and the fact is, Bill Snyder has proven time and time again that he can plug in ANYBODY to the QB position and make them a Heisman candidate...
could you possibly know any less about what you're spewing?
As much as we are sorry to see Tre Walker injured, this will not have a significant impact on defense. Yes, Tre is a great leader out there but he has only contributed to 19 tackles this year. Tuggle and Childs will get the job done. Tuggle will definately see more playing time which is a good thing for us. Don't let this change your handicapping to the game.
It isn't the only factor, it is just a slight edge to have the heart of the defense replaced by a new set of eyes to have to deal with a prolific offense, and a team eliminated by Iowa St (who tore the goal posts down how happy they were to do NOTHING all season except crush the hearts of another team and their fans. THAT is real. People love to be assholes more than they desire to win and achieve. Look around you. It's all over isn't it? K-St may soon discover how real that is.
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Quote Originally Posted by KANSASSTATECAT:
As much as we are sorry to see Tre Walker injured, this will not have a significant impact on defense. Yes, Tre is a great leader out there but he has only contributed to 19 tackles this year. Tuggle and Childs will get the job done. Tuggle will definately see more playing time which is a good thing for us. Don't let this change your handicapping to the game.
It isn't the only factor, it is just a slight edge to have the heart of the defense replaced by a new set of eyes to have to deal with a prolific offense, and a team eliminated by Iowa St (who tore the goal posts down how happy they were to do NOTHING all season except crush the hearts of another team and their fans. THAT is real. People love to be assholes more than they desire to win and achieve. Look around you. It's all over isn't it? K-St may soon discover how real that is.
It isn't the only factor, it is just a slight edge to have the heart of the defense replaced by a new set of eyes to have to deal with a prolific offense, and a team eliminated by Iowa St (who tore the goal posts down how happy they were to do NOTHING all season except crush the hearts of another team and their fans. THAT is real. People love to be assholes more than they desire to win and achieve. Look around you. It's all over isn't it? K-St may soon discover how real that is.
Quantum .... you're better than this, I've tailed you before. To say Tre is the heart of that defense is just not true. Perhaps you're thinking of Arthur Brown who is a beast and is the heart at LB. Jarell Childs is Tre's replacement and although I wouldn't call him a stud is a great hard working kid (he's been in my house before) who has found his place at LB. Jarell was a stud RB out of KC Oak Park h.s and like a lot of kids at K-State under Snyder bought into the team theory. Jarell switched to LB after his freshman year and has turned into a kid who has learned to take better routes to the ball and is always around it. He took a defensive score in for K-State against the Sooners and should have had another against Tech last week for another score but they called it back on a spot foul (still a recovery). He is a very capable swap and they aren't losing a thing.
That being said, love Snyder and the way he squeezes everything out of his kids as a team, but I just can't talk myself into thinking they can sweep the table into a N.C. game. May not be this week but whatever. I truly hope I'm wrong. GL to all in picking a side, guess I'm missing this K-State money train, but think history will eventually repeat itself (TxA&M 98' heartbreaker).
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Quote Originally Posted by Quantum_Leap:
It isn't the only factor, it is just a slight edge to have the heart of the defense replaced by a new set of eyes to have to deal with a prolific offense, and a team eliminated by Iowa St (who tore the goal posts down how happy they were to do NOTHING all season except crush the hearts of another team and their fans. THAT is real. People love to be assholes more than they desire to win and achieve. Look around you. It's all over isn't it? K-St may soon discover how real that is.
Quantum .... you're better than this, I've tailed you before. To say Tre is the heart of that defense is just not true. Perhaps you're thinking of Arthur Brown who is a beast and is the heart at LB. Jarell Childs is Tre's replacement and although I wouldn't call him a stud is a great hard working kid (he's been in my house before) who has found his place at LB. Jarell was a stud RB out of KC Oak Park h.s and like a lot of kids at K-State under Snyder bought into the team theory. Jarell switched to LB after his freshman year and has turned into a kid who has learned to take better routes to the ball and is always around it. He took a defensive score in for K-State against the Sooners and should have had another against Tech last week for another score but they called it back on a spot foul (still a recovery). He is a very capable swap and they aren't losing a thing.
That being said, love Snyder and the way he squeezes everything out of his kids as a team, but I just can't talk myself into thinking they can sweep the table into a N.C. game. May not be this week but whatever. I truly hope I'm wrong. GL to all in picking a side, guess I'm missing this K-State money train, but think history will eventually repeat itself (TxA&M 98' heartbreaker).
holy crap! i never get tired of watching the idiot masses of covers expose themselves to the world...
no history? born yesterday, were we? like i said... you just exposed yourself... as for your last statement... as wrong as wrong gets! but to explain why you are wrong would require you to have a fucking clue about CFB... which you just demonstrated very clearly you do not!
there is no team in CFB that i enjoy watching more than Kansas St... that ream represents everything that is great about CFB (this year)... that is how CFB is supposed to be played... and the fact is, Bill Snyder has proven time and time again that he can plug in ANYBODY to the QB position and make them a Heisman candidate...
could you possibly know any less about what you're spewing?
Okay ...the Kansas st wildcats have been around for years....but what is their overall winning percentage, How many Big 8, big 12 championships have they won?? and how many AP/ National championships have they won???
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Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:
holy crap! i never get tired of watching the idiot masses of covers expose themselves to the world...
no history? born yesterday, were we? like i said... you just exposed yourself... as for your last statement... as wrong as wrong gets! but to explain why you are wrong would require you to have a fucking clue about CFB... which you just demonstrated very clearly you do not!
there is no team in CFB that i enjoy watching more than Kansas St... that ream represents everything that is great about CFB (this year)... that is how CFB is supposed to be played... and the fact is, Bill Snyder has proven time and time again that he can plug in ANYBODY to the QB position and make them a Heisman candidate...
could you possibly know any less about what you're spewing?
Okay ...the Kansas st wildcats have been around for years....but what is their overall winning percentage, How many Big 8, big 12 championships have they won?? and how many AP/ National championships have they won???
i'm a big fan of Okla St football... ask around, and you will find out that nobody on this site was a stronger proponent of OSU in the NC game... they were the 2nd best team in football last year, without question...
but this is the sorriest OSU football i have seen in a LONG LONG time... even the people who live in Tulsa and Stillwater recognize they have nothing to work with this year...
they are terrible... this is a bigtime mismatch!
Okie st fan...why am i not surprised?? Okie st fans dont look at winning percentages or facts!!!! Notre Dame, Alabama and Kansas st, dont even belong in the same sentence when talking ncaaf history!! (which is what i said...not that they arent good this year!!)
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Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:
i'm a big fan of Okla St football... ask around, and you will find out that nobody on this site was a stronger proponent of OSU in the NC game... they were the 2nd best team in football last year, without question...
but this is the sorriest OSU football i have seen in a LONG LONG time... even the people who live in Tulsa and Stillwater recognize they have nothing to work with this year...
they are terrible... this is a bigtime mismatch!
Okie st fan...why am i not surprised?? Okie st fans dont look at winning percentages or facts!!!! Notre Dame, Alabama and Kansas st, dont even belong in the same sentence when talking ncaaf history!! (which is what i said...not that they arent good this year!!)
Do i think Okie state should have been in the N.C. game last year? absolutely
Do i think they should have played the game a day after the Womens head BBall coach was killed in a plane crash??? they shoulda postponed it (especially with OSUs past private plane crashes!!
Will KSU get into the N.C. game if there are 3 undefeated teams? NO!!!!
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Do i think Okie state should have been in the N.C. game last year? absolutely
Do i think they should have played the game a day after the Womens head BBall coach was killed in a plane crash??? they shoulda postponed it (especially with OSUs past private plane crashes!!
Will KSU get into the N.C. game if there are 3 undefeated teams? NO!!!!
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