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in looking for an impressive out of conference win by a Big 10 team, it's a toss up between OSU over Washington (a team that is a whopping 1-5 in Pac 10 play), or Illinois over Syracuse... in other words, they can beat up on the doormats from other conferences all day long... well, maybe "beat up" is a bit strong...
 
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2 more to go b4 we get rolled in TITLE GAME
 
i cant wait........think we go about handling the 60 day layoff different this year????????I bet we do........and ill bet on it
 
If you dont think that layoff and losing Ginn hurt youre fucking nuts......we may not have won but it should have been a game.OSU didnt show up period and Florida played like the champs that night end of story
 
As for the 2002 NC that everyone likes to bitch about go back and watch the game with 3 mins left[or so] we had a pass called incomplete right at the sideline that clearly was a caught ball....wich would have given us a first down and the game would have been all but over......even if they hold us there they get the ball back with 1 min left
 
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You can look at any conference and not find quality non conf wins, because teams don't want to schedule quality non conf opponents , especially on the road. It is a joke and it should be just like NFL preseason football, where the games don't count. Some of these BCS conf. want to schedule MAC teams and Sun Belt teams, and actually these smaller schools can use the money that these road games generate. But I will say again  that OSU does not duck anybody, you look at their non conf schedule over the past 15 years, they have the toughest of any tough team. And they had Washington this year, and when that was scheduled Wash was probably a top 25 team. 10 years ago OSU wanted a home and home with Nebraska, and that fell through. It is kind of suicidal, why the hell would they want to play USC next year? Why would they play Texas? But even next year when OSU thrashes USC , the SEC whiners will say that USC sucks. And when OSU whips LSU you will be whining that LSU sucked and OSU still hasn't played anybody. The fact is that OSU has dominated all teams and beat them so physically that the teams aren't worth a shit the next few weeks.
 
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Let''s look at OSU's recent bowl games, since you want to talk about non conf games blah blah blah. Now the bowls you can't choose who you play, and you play a team of equal strength, and a BCS game you're playing a top 5 type of team, right?
 
2002 Fiesta Beat Miami Fl, now the 2001 Miami team was one of the best recent teams, right, and this was a great team too, maybe OSU was lucky to get the pass int call but they led this game mmost of the way.
 
2003 Fiesta, beat Kansas St BCS game.
 
2004 Alamo, beat a good OK st team.
 
2005 Fiesta, destroyed a solid ND team.
 
2006 BCS, lost to Florida, yes it was a bad loss, had the longest layoff ever and lost Ginn Jr on the first play of the game.
 
So OSU is 4-1 in their last 5 bowls with 4 BCS games the last 5 years, so let's hear how they don't play anybody good and can't beat anybody good.
 
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LET ME BREAK THE NEWS TO YOU GODFATHER16 .
 
YOUR BUCKEYES WOULD GET TORE APART BY WEST VIRGINA, OREGON, LSU, ARIZONA ST. , OKLAHOMA, AND EVEN FLORIDA, GEORGIA AND KANSAS....
 
YOUR LIL' BUCKEYES ARE THE DEFINITION OF SLOW. THAT DEFENSE WOULD NOT KNOW HOW TO DEFEND THE TEAMS I NAMED. MY POINT IS PROVEN BY THAT BOWL GAME PLAYED THIS PAST JAN.8TH.
 
YOU SEE, THE TYPE OF OFFENSE (SPREAD) THAT ALOT OF COLLEGE TEAMS ARE PLAYING NOWADAYS IS FAR TOO ADVANCED FOR YOUR TEAM TO DEFEND,TACKLE, OR JUST FLAT OUT KEEP UP WITH. AND THE TEAMS THAT DON'T PLAY SPREAD, OKLAHOMA ; GEORGIA; LSU; ARIZONA ST. ARE JUST WAY WAY WAAAYYYYY TOO FAST FOR YOU GUYS.
 
LIKE KOAJ "CORRECTED" YOU ABOVE , YOU GUYS LOOK GOOD AGAINST BIG10 TEAMS CAUSE THE BIG10 IS JUST A BUNCH OF MIDDLE OF THE ROAD TEAMS BEATING UP ON EACHOTHER. 
 
WATCH OUT FOR THE FIGHTING ZOOKERS !!!!! ILLINOIS = FAST AND YOUR SLOW ASS DEFENSE JUST MIGHT COLLAPSE WHEN THEY WHIFF .... ERRRR... TRY AND TACKLE THOSE GUYS...
 
"41-14.... SPEED KILLS!!!!!!" REMEMBER?
 
LET THIS THREAD DIE AND LET YOUR TEAM DO THE TALKING FOR YOU!!!!!
 
YOU ARE SUCH A HOMER, OR YOU ARE PUTTING ON THE BIGGEST REVERSE JINX ON OHIO STATE I'VE EVER SEEN ON COVERS.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
BY THE WAY, THE 95' NEBRASKA TEAM COULD NAME THE SCORE AGAINST YOUR BUCKEYES... I'D SAY 77- 10. THAT 95' HUSKER DEFENSE WOULD PUT YOUR PLAYERS IN THE HOSPITAL. THEY DESTROYED MY GATORS THAT YEAR, AND MY 95' GATORS WOULD DESTROY YOUR LIL' BUCKEYE TEAM.... I'D SAY 56- 13...
 
 
JUST MY 2 CENTS. DON'T TRY AND MAKE ANY CUTE/ ANGRY COMEBACKS AS I DON'T PLAN ON OPENING THIS THREAD AGAIN.... AT LEAST NOT TILL IT ENDS UP AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE AGAIN. (WHICH WILL BE TOMMOROW MORNING I'M SURE)
 
 
 
 
YOU ARE SO REACHING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT THERE... YOUR BUCKEYE TEAM IS GOOD... BUT FAR FROM GREAT. AND CERTIANLY NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE TOP 50 EVER , MUCH LESS THE BEST... AND THERE IS NO WAY THEY CAN BE .
 
 
 
 
 
NOW GO SAVE A KITTEN AND EAT AN APPLE!!!!!!!!!
 
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Godfather, how are you still arguing this???  did you not read my post?  i broke down every Big 10 team's non-conference wins (and some losses)... there is no reference point that can suggest that the Big 10 is a solid conference... NONE!

saying all other conferences don't schedule difficult non-conference games?  REALLY?

Tennessee @ Cal
USC @ Nebraska
Miami @ Oklahoma
Va Tech @ LSU
K St @ Auburn
Ore @ Mich

just a few off the top of my head... gee!  seems like the other conferences aren't ducking each other too much...


Washington has been a Pac 10 doormat for a LONG time, so don't give us this crap that they were good when you scheduled it... what have you been watching CFB for 5 minutes?

and pointing to the 2005 Fiesta Bowl win against ND as a solid win is a joke!  ND gets killed and will ALWAYS get killed in BCS games no matter who they are playing... i bet against them no matter who they play in a BCS bowl (Ore St, LSU, OSU...), and i'm disappointed i won't get that chance this year... they have no business taking the field against top teams from big conferences...

ALL of your arguments are weak... WHY ARE YOU STILL DOING THIS???  you could not look more uninformed regarding CFB!

let your stupid team win a game against ANYONE before you start talking about them being the greatest team ever, or even the greatest team this year...

this is a joke, and like i said before, it is a spit in the face of college football history!  incredibly disrespectful!  this team belongs nowhere near ANY of the top teams to have played this game...
 
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oh yea, and it's ironic that you say "last year has nothing to do with this year", and then point out who they have beaten in bowl games over the past 5 years...

and what's even more idiotic about that... you are pointing out those games to prove that OSU doesn't dodge good competition... THOSE AREN'T SCHEDULED GAMES, BOZO!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

And Pac 10 , other than ORG and ASU, have been inconsistent, and after this shakes out look for the Pac 10 ratings to drop. A strong conference needs 6-7 strong teams at the top, like Big 11 w/ OSU, PSU, MICH, WISC, Illinois, Purdue, Mich St. The SEC has several average teams that beat up on a bunch of punks in non conf, giving the illusion that they are a "winning" team but then they can win consistently in conference play.
You have got to be kidding me right, of those 7 teams listed maybe 3 of them have the capability of having a winning record if they played in the SEC.
 
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                      Bowl Games Scoreboard
 
 
SEC      8
 
O.S.U.  0
 
78 Sugar ~ Alabama 35 OSU 6
90 Hall of Fame ~ Auburn 31 OSU 14
93 Citrus ~ Georgia 21 OSU 14
95 Citrus ~ Alabama 24 OSU 17
96 Citrus ~ Tennessee 20 OSU 14
01 Outback ~ South Carolina 24 OSU 7
02 Outback ~ Souyh Carolina 31 OSU 28
07 BCS CG  ~ Florida 41 OSU 14
 
Not only is the SEC undefeated against OSU in Bowl Games,but they beat them by an average of 14.125 points per contest!
 
 The Sec is 1 point away from DOUBLING the Buckeyes point production as they have outscored OSU 227-114!
Luckily for OSU most of these games have ended with the SEC team taking a knee instead of adding another score.
 
 Actually,OSU should just avoid teams from the South alltogether,because they are 0-10 against any southern team as they have also lost to Florida State 31-14 in the 98 Sugar,and 17-15 to Clemson in the 79 Gator. 
 
 So instead of drawing attention to OSU's glaring inability to beat any SEC or ACC team in a Bowl Game,maybe you should just STFU !  
 
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"The SEC has several average teams that beat up on a bunch of punks in non conf, giving the illusion that they are a "winning" team but then they can win consistently in conference play."


man, you could take out SEC and insert Big-10 and that statement would be 100% accurate...

this guy has to be one of the most brain-washed people in America...
 
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All of this OSU talk will mean nothing after they lose to Michigan on the 17th.  When that happens, App St. should get some strong consideration for the title game.
 
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JRbull, thanks for that info wasn't aware that the SEC has DOMINATED OSU in such fashion. Hopefully this will put a end to this ridiculous thread. I can only hope like hell that LSU wins out and gets to play OSU and then OSU can leave New Orleans they same way they left the NCG last year. Completely dominated be another SEC team
 
Also I love how he says losing Ginn hurt OSU. Well if his own players wouldn't have got so excited it never would have happened. Also how did losing Ginn affect the way Florida's offense just crushed OSU's defense?
 
8-0 SEC over the osu. Now that's DOMINATION!!!!!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 46and2:

.  Les Miles Vs. Jim Tressel?  Forget about it.  Who are we trying to kid?  Cant wait to see it!

Let me guess, you probably said the same thing last year: Urban Myer Vs. Jim Tressel?

 
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Let's see so far Miles has beaten Tubberville, Meyer, Saban and Mr. South Carolina himself. Not a bad resume.
 
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OHIO ST SUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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FLORIDA POUNDED OHIO ST, WON LOTS OF MONEY... SO HOPEFULLY OHIO ST WILL PLAY ANOTHER BETTER SEC TEAM IN CHAMPIONSHIP SO I CAN WIN MORE MONEY!!!!!
 
CHAMPION SEC OVER OHIO ST =
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

OK, Dapook, you sound like a self-proclaimed expert, what area isn't the OSU not excelling in? what part of the game?  And the 1995 Nebraska team was a great running team, if they needed to throw the ball to win they were in trouble, you know that, they had a great defense too. Now the great USC teams did not have a great defense, in 2004 they gave up about 13 PPG, in 2005 about 24 PPG, and Texas scored 41 on them in the NC.

LOL I guess I am no expert but I think I have a ton more credibility than you do.  I dont compare best teams ever ot make delusional claims about CFB teams. 

Yes I like OSU chances this year in the MNC chase.  Why?  Because I do not think they are going to go up against the best teams in the land.  I think Oregon would whip ANY big ten team by at least 7 point with a healthy Dixon.  I also think that Oregon would beat any SEC team.  I think Oregon is the best obviously but they are a west coast team and a have a bad loss to Cal.  That will keep em out of the BCS. 

I think OSU is comparable to Texas in talent but have a much better coach and in a much weaker conference this year. 

That is NOT a dig at OSU.  All you can do is ask OSU to win all the games they play in and if they do.....TADA!  Champions!

Now I do beleive they can do that because they will get a weak SEC team or an overated Big XII team. 

Now as far as weakness of OSU?  Well what are their strengths?   It is tough to say beyond coaching.  The Defense has not stopped any prolific offense nor has their Offense faced any prolific Defenses. I really think that they are untested.  That is the weakness.  We don't really know how good each unit is.  Stopping those woeful Offenses in the big 10(1) is not a challenge nor is scoring on the Ds.. 

Now LSU has a prolific D but a terrible O.  edge OSU. 

Oklahoma is equal to OSU in talent and coaching but   seems a year away. ( ican't put my finger on it)

Mizzo.  Prolific O

KU prolific O

what can you say about OSU?  What is their identity?  what unit do you want on the field to save the game?

 
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Winning in the BIG 11 does not necessarily demonstrate to me that they can match up with most of the top 10 teams. The only other conference team with any team speed is Illinois....  When they play other top ranked teams, they will not only find great speed, but a lot more talent at skill positions; especially QB and RB.........They will also see defenses that are a lot better than they have seen this year.
 
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Godfather dont give out your advice if you cannot take being criticized.  We will find out whom is better in championship!
 
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GoG -
1. you show some tough non conf games, but those are the only ones, most teams do not schedule tough teams and you now it, they load up on creampuffs, so don't whine about the Buckeyes not playing anyone when they play Texas, USC next year, etc.
2. I am comfortable with the OSU offense or defense unit on the field in the end, but none of their games have been close at the end and none will be. Both units can get the job done, obviously.
3. Navy showed this year that the past doesn't mean much, they won over ND after 43 years of losing, so do you think the OSU will be scared of a team from the south because the OSU lost to a team in the 1970's
4. OSU's record in recent bowl games shows that this team can compete with anybody and beat anybody. They lost control last year with Ginn out and weren't ready. One game doesn't mean that they can't ever win again. Using your logic, then LSU or OKL can't win the BCS because they lost a game this year to far inferior opponents.
5. Let's let the bowl games play out before you totally dismiss the Big 10. Everyone has a nut for the SEC but it looks mediocre this year, with some top teams even having trouble with Vandy and Miss St. So don't say the Big 10 can't beat anyone until after the fact.
6. petealot - yeah I'm sure no other Big 10 teams have any speed
 
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The SEC as a whole has not dominated in the bowls in recent years, they have done average, so you can't say the SEC is dominant when they are not dominating folks.
 
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I am very confident that the Big 10 will do well this year in the bowls, because they are 9-4 in non conf games vs BCS teams. And you can't schedule cream-puffs like this, you don't know if the teams will be good or not, they are playing teams with similar talents. You guys act like you are official experts, but I will guarantee you that OSU will be chalk against any opponent in the NC game, and you guys say the OSU has no chance to beat anybody in this game, so why would Vegas make the OSU a favorite if th have no chance to win the game? HMMMM??
 
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By the time you let this thread die, you'll have more posts than KOAJ.
 
Give it a rest....
 
 
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Godfather tell me then who in the big 10 has the speed of SEC teams?
 
Next I never said SEC teams dominate in bowl games. I said SEC teams have DOMINATED OSU in the past 8 meetings.
 
Next you never answered my question. What did Ginn getting hurt have to do with Florida RUNNING away from that precious OSU defense. Florida pummeled that defense.
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