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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 12:47 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:



    7. What happened to Missouri last night? Was it just me or did the wrong team win that football game? I just felt like Missouri was the better team and it seemed that Georgia got a ton of breaks in that game. Missouri shot themselves in the foot over and over. It was a weird game that IMO went the wrong way. Georgia IMO isn't a good football team. There problems will show up when they play S.C for sure. If you go back and watch the game you would agree, Missouri outplayed them it seemed.

     



    What happened to Missouri is a concept that I preach about constantly, and what many bettors can't seem to comprehend . . . "depth."  Georgia has it, and Missouri doesn't.  Georgia essentially won the war of attrition.

    Gamblers invariably become enthralled with flashy skill position players and bet accordingly  Skill players are important, but that's usually not where games are won and lost.  Unfortunately I didn't practice what I preach in this instance, because I also became mesmerized by the magic Missouri elixir. 

    I said all summer that, much to the chagrin of the majority of the country, this season would play out very much like last season in that Alabama & LSU will again be heads and shoulders above everyone else.  There are two primary reasons for this; superiority in the trenches and "depth."  The only other team creeping into the conversation at this time is Florida State.  Anyone who thinks a team like USC is ready to challenge Alabama & LSU for college football supremacy this season is fooling themselves.

    Weakness in the trenches and lack of "depth" is exactly why I kept telling everyone who were rushing to make futures bets on Arkansas that they were wasting their money.  I got ripped for saying they had "zero shot" of winning the SEC West title, much less any other title.  The Razorbacks are simply too weak at the point of attack, and too thin across their roster to compete with Alabama & LSU.  All of us saw the Arkansas games against Alabama & LSU last season with our own eyes, yet some actually think the result will be different this season because the venue will change.  It won't.  Don't waste your money betting otherwise.

    In laying 2 touchdowns with LSU in the SEC Championship game last season, I said that Georgia had the talent to hang with LSU for a while, but that ultimately LSU would win convincingly by wearing Georgia down with their superior "depth."  That's exactly how the game played out.

    To further drive home this point, I will leave you with a very profound Saban quote from last season.

    "I think that people who make those statements sort of just look at the periphery. You've got to build a team. We play 50 or 60 guys through the course of the season, and like I always say, the bottom 40 guys on your roster usually determines how good that team really is. I don't want to criticize the media or anything, because God knows I get punished enough by you guys, but you guys will look at the top four or five guys (returning) on the team and make your determination."


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    7. What happened to Missouri last night? Was it just me or did the wrong team win that football game? I just felt like Missouri was the better team and it seemed that Georgia got a ton of breaks in that game. Missouri shot themselves in the foot over and over. It was a weird game that IMO went the wrong way. Georgia IMO isn't a good football team. There problems will show up when they play S.C for sure. If you go back and watch the game you would agree, Missouri outplayed them it seemed.

     



    What happened to Missouri is a concept that I preach about constantly, and what many bettors can't seem to comprehend . . . "depth."  Georgia has it, and Missouri doesn't.  Georgia essentially won the war of attrition.

    Gamblers invariably become enthralled with flashy skill position players and bet accordingly  Skill players are important, but that's usually not where games are won and lost.  Unfortunately I didn't practice what I preach in this instance, because I also became mesmerized by the magic Missouri elixir. 

    I said all summer that, much to the chagrin of the majority of the country, this season would play out very much like last season in that Alabama & LSU will again be heads and shoulders above everyone else.  There are two primary reasons for this; superiority in the trenches and "depth."  The only other team creeping into the conversation at this time is Florida State.  Anyone who thinks a team like USC is ready to challenge Alabama & LSU for college football supremacy this season is fooling themselves.

    Weakness in the trenches and lack of "depth" is exactly why I kept telling everyone who were rushing to make futures bets on Arkansas that they were wasting their money.  I got ripped for saying they had "zero shot" of winning the SEC West title, much less any other title.  The Razorbacks are simply too weak at the point of attack, and too thin across their roster to compete with Alabama & LSU.  All of us saw the Arkansas games against Alabama & LSU last season with our own eyes, yet some actually think the result will be different this season because the venue will change.  It won't.  Don't waste your money betting otherwise.

    In laying 2 touchdowns with LSU in the SEC Championship game last season, I said that Georgia had the talent to hang with LSU for a while, but that ultimately LSU would win convincingly by wearing Georgia down with their superior "depth."  That's exactly how the game played out.

    To further drive home this point, I will leave you with a very profound Saban quote from last season.

    "I think that people who make those statements sort of just look at the periphery. You've got to build a team. We play 50 or 60 guys through the course of the season, and like I always say, the bottom 40 guys on your roster usually determines how good that team really is. I don't want to criticize the media or anything, because God knows I get punished enough by you guys, but you guys will look at the top four or five guys (returning) on the team and make your determination."


     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 12:51 PM ET #27

    Jimmy - You know I know that. I actually talk about depth more then anyone I know on here. But if you watch that game you can see Georgia was the team outplayed. Mizz got caught up in a mess of shit that game. It was one of those games that's really hard to explain. Georgia needs to consider themselves lucky IMO


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    Jimmy - You know I know that. I actually talk about depth more then anyone I know on here. But if you watch that game you can see Georgia was the team outplayed. Mizz got caught up in a mess of shit that game. It was one of those games that's really hard to explain. Georgia needs to consider themselves lucky IMO


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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 12:53 PM ET #28

    BTW..................


    Have yo guys notice that  ESPN and other websites are posting articles like.............


    " What we learned "

    or

    " Things we learned "




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    Have yo guys notice that  ESPN and other websites are posting articles like.............


    " What we learned "

    or

    " Things we learned "




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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 1:01 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by slomotion:

    Utah...had some bad breaks. down goes the QB, State blocked punt for a TD( how often do ya see that) fumble on States 20 and then they march it back for the only TD in the next 3 qtrs , that was holding to give Utha St the go ahead. Then the ref calls off; pass interference (wishy washy call) to prevent a tie in OT to continue. Either way I see it hard to cover 7 when winning a toss in OT and choosing to defend first.



    A couple of things:

    Utah lost the game because they got dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball.  That's also why their starting QB got knocked out of the game.

    Not only is it "hard" to cover a 7-point spread when having the second possession in overtime, it is mathematically impossible.


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    Utah...had some bad breaks. down goes the QB, State blocked punt for a TD( how often do ya see that) fumble on States 20 and then they march it back for the only TD in the next 3 qtrs , that was holding to give Utha St the go ahead. Then the ref calls off; pass interference (wishy washy call) to prevent a tie in OT to continue. Either way I see it hard to cover 7 when winning a toss in OT and choosing to defend first.



    A couple of things:

    Utah lost the game because they got dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball.  That's also why their starting QB got knocked out of the game.

    Not only is it "hard" to cover a 7-point spread when having the second possession in overtime, it is mathematically impossible.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 1:03 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

    Jimmy - You know I know that. I actually talk about depth more then anyone I know on here. But if you watch that game you can see Georgia was the team outplayed. Mizz got caught up in a mess of shit that game. It was one of those games that's really hard to explain. Georgia needs to consider themselves lucky IMO


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    Wasn't calling you out, just making a point that hopefully will help others in the future.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

    Jimmy - You know I know that. I actually talk about depth more then anyone I know on here. But if you watch that game you can see Georgia was the team outplayed. Mizz got caught up in a mess of shit that game. It was one of those games that's really hard to explain. Georgia needs to consider themselves lucky IMO


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    Wasn't calling you out, just making a point that hopefully will help others in the future.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 1:57 PM ET #32

    Boom good luck this week!
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    First off Boom,I love your threads and your insight on cfb is very good ! Keep plucking away and you will get back on track and dominate as you always seem to do. I do though have to disagree on the Georgia smack down.

    1) Georgia is more talented and bigger.
    2) This is the SEC and not the Big12.
    3) Football games are 4 quarters and not just one half.
    4) Murray is by far the superior.
    5) Bottom line is Mizzou got that ass dominated on both sides of the ball in the 2nd half and got a true wake up call this is SEC football!
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    First off Boom,I love your threads and your insight on cfb is very good ! Keep plucking away and you will get back on track and dominate as you always seem to do. I do though have to disagree on the Georgia smack down.

    1) Georgia is more talented and bigger.
    2) This is the SEC and not the Big12.
    3) Football games are 4 quarters and not just one half.
    4) Murray is by far the superior.
    5) Bottom line is Mizzou got that ass dominated on both sides of the ball in the 2nd half and got a true wake up call this is SEC football!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeelinAlright:

    First off Boom,I love your threads and your insight on cfb is very good ! Keep plucking away and you will get back on track and dominate as you always seem to do. I do though have to disagree on the Georgia smack down.

    1) Georgia is more talented and bigger.
    2) This is the SEC and not the Big12.
    3) Football games are 4 quarters and not just one half.
    4) Murray is by far the superior.
    5) Bottom line is Mizzou got that ass dominated on both sides of the ball in the 2nd half and got a true wake up call this is SEC football!


    Thats not true. Mizzous coaching staff did a horrible job. The fake punt fail was the end of the game. Franklin only threw a couple deep balls (one for a td). He rushed 20 times. Thats not gonna work. I know that, but Gary Pinkel apparently doesnt. Mizzou is on MAJOR FADE ALERT the rest of the season. Our rushing game is terrible (plus we lost Elvis for unknown amount of time) and our defense will get tired. Not to mention, we have some very tough road games that are almost unwinnable even though they are 2+ months away.....
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    First off Boom,I love your threads and your insight on cfb is very good ! Keep plucking away and you will get back on track and dominate as you always seem to do. I do though have to disagree on the Georgia smack down.

    1) Georgia is more talented and bigger.
    2) This is the SEC and not the Big12.
    3) Football games are 4 quarters and not just one half.
    4) Murray is by far the superior.
    5) Bottom line is Mizzou got that ass dominated on both sides of the ball in the 2nd half and got a true wake up call this is SEC football!


    Thats not true. Mizzous coaching staff did a horrible job. The fake punt fail was the end of the game. Franklin only threw a couple deep balls (one for a td). He rushed 20 times. Thats not gonna work. I know that, but Gary Pinkel apparently doesnt. Mizzou is on MAJOR FADE ALERT the rest of the season. Our rushing game is terrible (plus we lost Elvis for unknown amount of time) and our defense will get tired. Not to mention, we have some very tough road games that are almost unwinnable even though they are 2+ months away.....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 3:25 PM ET #35

    Boom,

    Love your posts.  Tough going to start the year.  Myself included.

    However, don't sleep on the Gators.  They will be in Atlanta vs. Bama/LSU winner.

    Keep em coming Boom
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    Boom,

    Love your posts.  Tough going to start the year.  Myself included.

    However, don't sleep on the Gators.  They will be in Atlanta vs. Bama/LSU winner.

    Keep em coming Boom
     
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    The Arkansas loss was beyond belief. Apparently JL Smith spent all week with his attorneys filing bankruptcy papers rather than being on the field with the team. This should shatter all doubt whether a bad coach can win with good players. The answer is no.

    The banishment of Colorado section had me laughing out loud, as did the Tino Sunseri and Big 10 comments.

    Florida's defense is Top 10 material as expected. But beyond RB Gillislee, there isn't much to like about that offense. Driskell looks like a watered down Tebow. Not what I wanted to see.

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    The Arkansas loss was beyond belief. Apparently JL Smith spent all week with his attorneys filing bankruptcy papers rather than being on the field with the team. This should shatter all doubt whether a bad coach can win with good players. The answer is no.

    The banishment of Colorado section had me laughing out loud, as did the Tino Sunseri and Big 10 comments.

    Florida's defense is Top 10 material as expected. But beyond RB Gillislee, there isn't much to like about that offense. Driskell looks like a watered down Tebow. Not what I wanted to see.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 7:01 PM ET #37

    Hey Boom - agree with a lot of your Ten Things and always make your posts a read. I know you will bounce back from reading you the last few years.

    One thing though on SEC - Florida - I know you love to dog them but they were missing a lot of pieces during the game (I know, you may say they were just soft lol- and I am not a gators fan - ROLL TIDE). They MAY have finally found a qb, and more importantly - a running back. Not a "look how fast i run the 40 rb, but maybe a "watch me run between the tackles in the SEC" rb. I wouldn't write them off too soon.

    Georgia - let's remember - they were down 4 starters on defense, I would anticipate them being better going forward. Jarvis Jones was a pure beast and when all the suspended kids come back that should make everyone including Jones better - scary thought. Their running game needs improvement but remember with them getting rid of one of the returning criminals, err rbs, they are down to (very highly recruited) freshmen who will get better as the year goes on..

    That said - I still expect the Tide to win the SEC and the Natty - but then again that is being a homer. And yes - the Buffs ( I live in Colorado suck azz. Hiring a coach with no experience is not a solution to a crappy couple of years. I can excuse last year - that schedule would have been brutal in the NFL. This year - those first two games were part of the only "gimmes" they had to try to get to a minor bowl game. All hope is lost - abandon ship.

    BOL this season
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    Hey Boom - agree with a lot of your Ten Things and always make your posts a read. I know you will bounce back from reading you the last few years.

    One thing though on SEC - Florida - I know you love to dog them but they were missing a lot of pieces during the game (I know, you may say they were just soft lol- and I am not a gators fan - ROLL TIDE). They MAY have finally found a qb, and more importantly - a running back. Not a "look how fast i run the 40 rb, but maybe a "watch me run between the tackles in the SEC" rb. I wouldn't write them off too soon.

    Georgia - let's remember - they were down 4 starters on defense, I would anticipate them being better going forward. Jarvis Jones was a pure beast and when all the suspended kids come back that should make everyone including Jones better - scary thought. Their running game needs improvement but remember with them getting rid of one of the returning criminals, err rbs, they are down to (very highly recruited) freshmen who will get better as the year goes on..

    That said - I still expect the Tide to win the SEC and the Natty - but then again that is being a homer. And yes - the Buffs ( I live in Colorado suck azz. Hiring a coach with no experience is not a solution to a crappy couple of years. I can excuse last year - that schedule would have been brutal in the NFL. This year - those first two games were part of the only "gimmes" they had to try to get to a minor bowl game. All hope is lost - abandon ship.

    BOL this season
     
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    Never worry about you coming back, BOOM!  Get it this week! 
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    Blowout.....is that a seismic boat in your avatar?

    Regarding Clempson D.....Davo needs to explain how he can justify bringing in a proven loser like Venables. Folks in Norman were happy and relieved to see him go. If Stoops wasn't so spineless he'd a fired him 5 years ago...and if he had any pride he'd a resigned himself right after he fired him.

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    Regarding Clempson D.....Davo needs to explain how he can justify bringing in a proven loser like Venables. Folks in Norman were happy and relieved to see him go. If Stoops wasn't so spineless he'd a fired him 5 years ago...and if he had any pride he'd a resigned himself right after he fired him.

     
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    Blowout.....is that a seismic boat in your avatar?

    Regarding Clempson D.....Davo needs to explain how he can justify bringing in a proven loser like Venables. Folks in Norman were happy and relieved to see him go. If Stoops wasn't so spineless he'd a fired him 5 years ago...and if he had any pride he'd a resigned himself right after he fired him.

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    Regarding Clempson D.....Davo needs to explain how he can justify bringing in a proven loser like Venables. Folks in Norman were happy and relieved to see him go. If Stoops wasn't so spineless he'd a fired him 5 years ago...and if he had any pride he'd a resigned himself right after he fired him.

     
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    Upset of the week. Ole miss will cover, if not beat UT. Ash, is dismal, and the D isn't as good as advertised.
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2012 - 8:45 PM ET #42

    People who have preconceived notions about these teams after just two weeks, are going to find themselves in the red at the end of the season. There is Bama and LSU, then there is everybody else. A lot of parity in college football this year. It's not going to be an easy season for anybody to cap. BOL this week Boom
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    People who have preconceived notions about these teams after just two weeks, are going to find themselves in the red at the end of the season. There is Bama and LSU, then there is everybody else. A lot of parity in college football this year. It's not going to be an easy season for anybody to cap. BOL this week Boom
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da-mingz:

    Upset of the week. Ole miss will cover, if not beat UT. Ash, is dismal, and the D isn't as good as advertised.

    No 
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    Upset of the week. Ole miss will cover, if not beat UT. Ash, is dismal, and the D isn't as good as advertised.

    No 
     
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    Sorry Bud, watched both games on the LGH network and its not good. They lose to OU, WV, TCU... this week could be a start to another long season
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    Joewashington- 

    No- that is a brand new deepwater drillship that I work on in the Gulf of Mexico. 


    Train- agree with you on the terrible 4th down fake punt call but running that QB is what Mizzo does. They are a better coached team than Georgia but the depth in the trenches won the game for Georgia. Most people forget that Georgia has as much talent as Bama or LSU but Richt is a crappy coach. Murry is a stud and his receivers dropped 6 balls that would have been first downs. The tempo that Mizzo played at had Georgia flustered but they made adjustments. I think Mizzo will be just fine the rest of the year. The actually looked a lot better than I expected. 

    Good luck the rest of the year!
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    No- that is a brand new deepwater drillship that I work on in the Gulf of Mexico. 


    Train- agree with you on the terrible 4th down fake punt call but running that QB is what Mizzo does. They are a better coached team than Georgia but the depth in the trenches won the game for Georgia. Most people forget that Georgia has as much talent as Bama or LSU but Richt is a crappy coach. Murry is a stud and his receivers dropped 6 balls that would have been first downs. The tempo that Mizzo played at had Georgia flustered but they made adjustments. I think Mizzo will be just fine the rest of the year. The actually looked a lot better than I expected. 

    Good luck the rest of the year!
     
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    Here we go guys




    TCU   -20.5     2.5 units

    Tennessee  -2   2 Units

    Boston College  +4.5   2 units

    Florida S.T   -24   ( First 5 Unit Play of the Year )

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    TCU   -20.5     2.5 units

    Tennessee  -2   2 Units

    Boston College  +4.5   2 units

    Florida S.T   -24   ( First 5 Unit Play of the Year )

     
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    Joe Washington - Putting up with all the SAF's on here is one thing. But I really dont like your ignorant ass. So please either go play in traffic or never post in my threads again. Or Both...... Thanks for your participation 
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    Joe Washington - Putting up with all the SAF's on here is one thing. But I really dont like your ignorant ass. So please either go play in traffic or never post in my threads again. Or Both...... Thanks for your participation 
     
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    Boom - Looking forward to our Tigers against FSU... will our defense do us in? No doubt that we have a badass offense. Obviously, we stay turnover free and we are in that game. From an unbiased point of view, are we able to handle the pressure playing them away? Mature enough? I believe 
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    Boom - Looking forward to our Tigers against FSU... will our defense do us in? No doubt that we have a badass offense. Obviously, we stay turnover free and we are in that game. From an unbiased point of view, are we able to handle the pressure playing them away? Mature enough? I believe 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by burningsun72:

    Boom - Looking forward to our Tigers against FSU... will our defense do us in? No doubt that we have a badass offense. Obviously, we stay turnover free and we are in that game. From an unbiased point of view, are we able to handle the pressure playing them away? Mature enough? I believe 
    Honestly, I still think FSU has the edge in this game. We will going into a very hostile environment. Gameday will most likely be there.... If we can beat FSU I think we can run the table. Then who knows after that

    The key to the FSU game is holding up to that really good DL they have. It's the best in all of college football. It's 10 deep....and yes, it's better then Alabama's and LSU's.

    I think our defense will actually get better as the year moves along.... just hang in there
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    Boom - Looking forward to our Tigers against FSU... will our defense do us in? No doubt that we have a badass offense. Obviously, we stay turnover free and we are in that game. From an unbiased point of view, are we able to handle the pressure playing them away? Mature enough? I believe 
    Honestly, I still think FSU has the edge in this game. We will going into a very hostile environment. Gameday will most likely be there.... If we can beat FSU I think we can run the table. Then who knows after that

    The key to the FSU game is holding up to that really good DL they have. It's the best in all of college football. It's 10 deep....and yes, it's better then Alabama's and LSU's.

    I think our defense will actually get better as the year moves along.... just hang in there
     
     
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    Agree w/ Tennessee Boom

    BOL brotha
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    BOL brotha
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