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    killing the books...here is the mother of all traps (sucker goy)

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2011 - 11:52 AM ET #26

    How are we gonna TELL this guy what his GOY is?  Whether he's right or wrong, value is in the eye of the beholder, and value is found where the public thinks there is no value.  Obviously his writeup suggests both are true with this play.  There absolutely is more value for me in other games, but where do we get off telling this dude what HE'S thinking?

    Those of us worth talking to on this site are in the minority.  I come for opinions, but half the threads i find are arguments over discussions, people talking shit after games are over about how wrong others were and fixes.  He provided a thorough writeup, if he's wrong explain to him further why he's wrong instead of just saying he's wrong.

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    How are we gonna TELL this guy what his GOY is?  Whether he's right or wrong, value is in the eye of the beholder, and value is found where the public thinks there is no value.  Obviously his writeup suggests both are true with this play.  There absolutely is more value for me in other games, but where do we get off telling this dude what HE'S thinking?

    Those of us worth talking to on this site are in the minority.  I come for opinions, but half the threads i find are arguments over discussions, people talking shit after games are over about how wrong others were and fixes.  He provided a thorough writeup, if he's wrong explain to him further why he's wrong instead of just saying he's wrong.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2011 - 5:26 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by vinmoney:

    GOY on Duke???  That is the most absurd thing I have heard in a while..  Win or lose...

    You can find more value on at least 2-3 games every week then this brother..

     

    where it is said that a goy must be on oklahoma, stanford, notre dame, lsu, alabama....i havent seen that rule anywhere in my 30+ years betting...when i say a goy, i am not saying that i am betting my house on it. my regular play is 3% of my bankroll. this one is barely 4% of my bakroll. i am calling it a goy because all of my plays so far were from 2.5%-3.5% and this is the first one and probably the last one this season where i am betting 4% on a single game. if it loses, i will not bankrupt. heck, i can lose many plays in a row and stil have a bankrol to work with. good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinmoney:

    GOY on Duke???  That is the most absurd thing I have heard in a while..  Win or lose...

    You can find more value on at least 2-3 games every week then this brother..

     

    where it is said that a goy must be on oklahoma, stanford, notre dame, lsu, alabama....i havent seen that rule anywhere in my 30+ years betting...when i say a goy, i am not saying that i am betting my house on it. my regular play is 3% of my bankroll. this one is barely 4% of my bakroll. i am calling it a goy because all of my plays so far were from 2.5%-3.5% and this is the first one and probably the last one this season where i am betting 4% on a single game. if it loses, i will not bankrupt. heck, i can lose many plays in a row and stil have a bankrol to work with. good luck

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2011 - 5:36 PM ET #28

    [Quote: Originally Posted by 4thdown]

    i already hear people capping this game the old fashioned sucker way...wake beat fsu, fsu rolled duke, duke has no chance. loving it ! some people are just too lazy to look deeper before placing a wager or before posting a play here. but thats why vegas is so beautifull.

     

    wake won against fsu by 5...thats great...but they won the turnover battle 5-0 in that game, and when you win your turnover battle 5-0, you should win by at least double digits, especially at home. so that win is a bad win in my book.

    Is there such thing as a bad win for a wake team that doesnt have the same talent level as FSU.? A bad win? thats just the most retarded thing ive heard, a WIN is WIN. I'm on Wake -2

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by 4thdown]

    i already hear people capping this game the old fashioned sucker way...wake beat fsu, fsu rolled duke, duke has no chance. loving it ! some people are just too lazy to look deeper before placing a wager or before posting a play here. but thats why vegas is so beautifull.

     

    wake won against fsu by 5...thats great...but they won the turnover battle 5-0 in that game, and when you win your turnover battle 5-0, you should win by at least double digits, especially at home. so that win is a bad win in my book.

    Is there such thing as a bad win for a wake team that doesnt have the same talent level as FSU.? A bad win? thats just the most retarded thing ive heard, a WIN is WIN. I'm on Wake -2

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2011 - 5:42 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by jcm200586:

    Quote Originally Posted by 4thdown:

    i already hear people capping this game the old fashioned sucker way...wake beat fsu, fsu rolled duke, duke has no chance. loving it ! some people are just too lazy to look deeper before placing a wager or before posting a play here. but thats why vegas is so beautifull.

     

    wake won against fsu by 5...thats great...but they won the turnover battle 5-0 in that game, and when you win your turnover battle 5-0, you should win by at least double digits, especially at home. so that win is a bad win in my book.

    Is there such thing as a bad win for a wake team that doesnt have the same talent level as FSU.? A bad win? thats just the most retarded thing ive heard, a WIN is WIN. I'm on Wake -2

     

    good luck !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcm200586:

    Quote Originally Posted by 4thdown:

    i already hear people capping this game the old fashioned sucker way...wake beat fsu, fsu rolled duke, duke has no chance. loving it ! some people are just too lazy to look deeper before placing a wager or before posting a play here. but thats why vegas is so beautifull.

     

    wake won against fsu by 5...thats great...but they won the turnover battle 5-0 in that game, and when you win your turnover battle 5-0, you should win by at least double digits, especially at home. so that win is a bad win in my book.

    Is there such thing as a bad win for a wake team that doesnt have the same talent level as FSU.? A bad win? thats just the most retarded thing ive heard, a WIN is WIN. I'm on Wake -2

     

    good luck !

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2011 - 5:49 PM ET #30

    i like the play. bol
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2011 - 9:42 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by 4thdown:

    here is another one...

     

    only ranked team in all mid week games... so not surprising to de everyone and their mother on wva laying an insanely big number on the road. the same wva team that played its last roadie more than a month ago and almost lost that game despite leading 34-10 in the third quarter.their running game was inexistent in that roadie, and maryland run all over wva defense. take syracuse +14, dont be a sucker !

     

    looking good

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thdown:

    here is another one...

     

    only ranked team in all mid week games... so not surprising to de everyone and their mother on wva laying an insanely big number on the road. the same wva team that played its last roadie more than a month ago and almost lost that game despite leading 34-10 in the third quarter.their running game was inexistent in that roadie, and maryland run all over wva defense. take syracuse +14, dont be a sucker !

     

    looking good

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2011 - 2:12 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by 4thdown:

     

    looking good

     

    2-0 this week !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    looking good

     

    2-0 this week !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2011 - 4:28 AM ET #33

    4th I'm going with all your plays brotha. BOL!
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2011 - 5:28 AM ET #34

    we still have these 3 left?

    " my goy is DUKE +3
    north carolina +10.5
    western kentucky +3 "

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    we still have these 3 left?

    " my goy is DUKE +3
    north carolina +10.5
    western kentucky +3 "

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshinco20:

    we still have these 3 left?

    " my goy is DUKE +3
    north carolina +10.5
    western kentucky +3 "

     

    thats correct...

    duke +4 (4% of br)

    uab +15.5 (3.5% of br) WINNER

    unc +10.5 (3% of br)

    syr +14 (2.5% of br) WINNER

    wky +3 (2.5% of br)

     

    as you can see, i can go 1-2 today,winning only my smallest bet (wky), lose my goy in the process and stil have a winning week. the most important thing in this biz is to keep it real. do not chase, and do not bet what you can not afford to lose. good luck all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenshinco20:

    we still have these 3 left?

    " my goy is DUKE +3
    north carolina +10.5
    western kentucky +3 "

     

    thats correct...

    duke +4 (4% of br)

    uab +15.5 (3.5% of br) WINNER

    unc +10.5 (3% of br)

    syr +14 (2.5% of br) WINNER

    wky +3 (2.5% of br)

     

    as you can see, i can go 1-2 today,winning only my smallest bet (wky), lose my goy in the process and stil have a winning week. the most important thing in this biz is to keep it real. do not chase, and do not bet what you can not afford to lose. good luck all.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2011 - 6:16 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by 4thdown:

     

    thats correct...

    duke +4 (4% of br)

    uab +15.5 (3.5% of br) WINNER

    unc +10.5 (3% of br)

    syr +14 (2.5% of br) WINNER

    wky +3 (2.5% of br)

     

    as you can see, i can go 1-2 today,winning only my smallest bet (wky), lose my goy in the process and stil have a winning week. the most important thing in this biz is to keep it real. do not chase, and do not bet what you can not afford to lose. good luck all.

     

    DUKE is +3, not +4, sorry for the typo. See you tomorrow in the NFL forum. Good luck all !!!!

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    thats correct...

    duke +4 (4% of br)

    uab +15.5 (3.5% of br) WINNER

    unc +10.5 (3% of br)

    syr +14 (2.5% of br) WINNER

    wky +3 (2.5% of br)

     

    as you can see, i can go 1-2 today,winning only my smallest bet (wky), lose my goy in the process and stil have a winning week. the most important thing in this biz is to keep it real. do not chase, and do not bet what you can not afford to lose. good luck all.

     

    DUKE is +3, not +4, sorry for the typo. See you tomorrow in the NFL forum. Good luck all !!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2011 - 8:59 AM ET #39

    as you can see, i can go 1-2 today,winning only my smallest bet (wky), lose my goy in the process and stil have a winning week. the most important thing in this biz is to keep it real. do not chase, and do not bet what you can not afford to lose. good luck all

     

    like your write up....   don't like you confidence.....      keep it positive bro...   you'll go  5-0.       

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    as you can see, i can go 1-2 today,winning only my smallest bet (wky), lose my goy in the process and stil have a winning week. the most important thing in this biz is to keep it real. do not chase, and do not bet what you can not afford to lose. good luck all

     

    like your write up....   don't like you confidence.....      keep it positive bro...   you'll go  5-0.       

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thdown:

     

    thats correct...

    duke +4 (4% of br) WINNER

    uab +15.5 (3.5% of br) WINNER

    unc +10.5 (3% of br) LOSER

    syr +14 (2.5% of br) WINNER

    wky +3 (2.5% of br)

     

    And once again... a winning week. Simply killing the books this season ! And people will keep on telling me that I am crazy for betting on Duke, betting against Boise (early in the season), and so on. Some people will never learn ! Vegas is smarter than an average capper. You have to be smart enough to read their lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thdown:

     

    thats correct...

    duke +4 (4% of br) WINNER

    uab +15.5 (3.5% of br) WINNER

    unc +10.5 (3% of br) LOSER

    syr +14 (2.5% of br) WINNER

    wky +3 (2.5% of br)

     

    And once again... a winning week. Simply killing the books this season ! And people will keep on telling me that I am crazy for betting on Duke, betting against Boise (early in the season), and so on. Some people will never learn ! Vegas is smarter than an average capper. You have to be smart enough to read their lines.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2011 - 4:04 PM ET #41

    Nice Day 4D -
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    great call!
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    great call!
     
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    He can call it GOY, game of the century, who cares? A win is a win...give this guy some credit...well thought out post too. Congrats ...nice cappin!
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    He can call it GOY, game of the century, who cares? A win is a win...give this guy some credit...well thought out post too. Congrats ...nice cappin!
     
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    Anything you like tonight? WKY up 7-3 early 
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    Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

    Anything you like tonight? WKY up 7-3 early 

     

    thats it for this week..onto the nfl

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    Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

    Anything you like tonight? WKY up 7-3 early 

     

    thats it for this week..onto the nfl

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thdown:

     

    thats it for this week..onto the nfl

     

    should have some nfl plays for tomorrow that many will use to call me crazy, stupid and what not...before the games start ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thdown:

     

    thats it for this week..onto the nfl

     

    should have some nfl plays for tomorrow that many will use to call me crazy, stupid and what not...before the games start ;)

     
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