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    Just heard Cam Newton willl be suspended for the Bama game and may be done for year.

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 8:52 PM ET #1

    My friend who I go thru on at SideActionSports was told that if state and federal regulators investigate it this week which some say are already doing so since so many reports are coming out that Auburn will have no choice to suspend him for the Bama game and if any of its true he is done for the year. The NCAA is taking this much more seriously since Reggie Bush made them look stupid when he was gettting benefits straight out in the open. Cecil Newton is not helping his son much by all the garbage he is talking and Cam sounds like he did it but just wants people to leave him alone. If I were Auburn you have to know this is a Reggie Bush scenario all over again and even if Cam somehow does not get suspended  he will before the SEC champ game or the bowl game and whats worse is once its all said in done this entire season will be wiped off the books just like Reggie Bush. I challenge ANY SINGLE AUBURN backer to say that he is innocent. Right now there is overwhelming evidence he is guilty. He needs to forget about football and think about the NFL because his college career is OVER. Sucks because he was good way better than Bush.
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    My friend who I go thru on at SideActionSports was told that if state and federal regulators investigate it this week which some say are already doing so since so many reports are coming out that Auburn will have no choice to suspend him for the Bama game and if any of its true he is done for the year. The NCAA is taking this much more seriously since Reggie Bush made them look stupid when he was gettting benefits straight out in the open. Cecil Newton is not helping his son much by all the garbage he is talking and Cam sounds like he did it but just wants people to leave him alone. If I were Auburn you have to know this is a Reggie Bush scenario all over again and even if Cam somehow does not get suspended  he will before the SEC champ game or the bowl game and whats worse is once its all said in done this entire season will be wiped off the books just like Reggie Bush. I challenge ANY SINGLE AUBURN backer to say that he is innocent. Right now there is overwhelming evidence he is guilty. He needs to forget about football and think about the NFL because his college career is OVER. Sucks because he was good way better than Bush.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 8:57 PM ET #2

    He is innocent.  If he wasn't then he his head coach would not have said tonight that Cam is elgible to play Saturday.  So far all we have is that the school that did not get his signature has made allegations.  They made those allegations for the first time in Jan.  Nothing has happened since then to change Cam's elgibility.  Why do you think his status will change between the UGA and Alabama games? 
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    He is innocent.  If he wasn't then he his head coach would not have said tonight that Cam is elgible to play Saturday.  So far all we have is that the school that did not get his signature has made allegations.  They made those allegations for the first time in Jan.  Nothing has happened since then to change Cam's elgibility.  Why do you think his status will change between the UGA and Alabama games? 
     
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    Yo Handi until I hear a tape conversation or some video or a letter its all hearsay, and last time I checked you cant get convicted on hear say, so there is no way he will be suspended on hearsay.  Plain and simple.  So unless someone comes out with some sold evidence, not only is he playing, he is gonna win the Heisman!

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    Yo Handi until I hear a tape conversation or some video or a letter its all hearsay, and last time I checked you cant get convicted on hear say, so there is no way he will be suspended on hearsay.  Plain and simple.  So unless someone comes out with some sold evidence, not only is he playing, he is gonna win the Heisman!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:17 PM ET #4

    For what it's worth my book just posted BCS Championship odds for the top 3 teams currently in BCS standings.  I imagine this is not news to you guys as they are probably posted everywhere but the Auburn number seems strange.  Odds are if the team will finish in Top 2 and play in BCS championship game:

    Oregon     Yes -300
                    No  +200

    TCU         Yes -400
                    No  +250

    Auburn     Yes +300
                    No  -500

    I know Auburn has the toughest trip the rest of the way but that seems kind of fishy to me

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    For what it's worth my book just posted BCS Championship odds for the top 3 teams currently in BCS standings.  I imagine this is not news to you guys as they are probably posted everywhere but the Auburn number seems strange.  Odds are if the team will finish in Top 2 and play in BCS championship game:

    Oregon     Yes -300
                    No  +200

    TCU         Yes -400
                    No  +250

    Auburn     Yes +300
                    No  -500

    I know Auburn has the toughest trip the rest of the way but that seems kind of fishy to me

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:28 PM ET #5

    the NCAA will overreact and be heavy handed as always

    for the first time in my life I agree with H33.

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    the NCAA will overreact and be heavy handed as always

    for the first time in my life I agree with H33.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:31 PM ET #6

    link or shut the fuck up
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    link or shut the fuck up
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:32 PM ET #7

     Honest question.............When is the last time an allegation of wrong doing with this much traction turned out to be false? I'm sure there are some instances but I can't think of any off hand.
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     Honest question.............When is the last time an allegation of wrong doing with this much traction turned out to be false? I'm sure there are some instances but I can't think of any off hand.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaser78:

    Yo Handi until I hear a tape conversation or some video or a letter its all hearsay, and last time I checked you cant get convicted on hear say, so there is no way he will be suspended on hearsay.  Plain and simple.  So unless someone comes out with some sold evidence, not only is he playing, he is gonna win the Heisman!


    What the hell makes you think they will come out with something for you or the public to see? Its like the same logic people use that are still naive enough not to believe in UFO's because they haven't seen one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teaser78:

    Yo Handi until I hear a tape conversation or some video or a letter its all hearsay, and last time I checked you cant get convicted on hear say, so there is no way he will be suspended on hearsay.  Plain and simple.  So unless someone comes out with some sold evidence, not only is he playing, he is gonna win the Heisman!


    What the hell makes you think they will come out with something for you or the public to see? Its like the same logic people use that are still naive enough not to believe in UFO's because they haven't seen one.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:33 PM ET #9

    You are a complete moron if you think Newton is better than Bush. First of all they play two different positions, second Newton is another Vince Young type QB that has yet to win anything, and last thing....he may not even be the best QB let alone player in college right now.
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    You are a complete moron if you think Newton is better than Bush. First of all they play two different positions, second Newton is another Vince Young type QB that has yet to win anything, and last thing....he may not even be the best QB let alone player in college right now.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    What the hell makes you think they will come out with something for you or the public to see? Its like the same logic people use that are still naive enough not to believe in UFO's because they haven't seen one.

    thats moronic. look at every past player that has been proven in violation of NCAA rules in that last 40 years. the evidence is public knowledge, do some fucking research

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:


    What the hell makes you think they will come out with something for you or the public to see? Its like the same logic people use that are still naive enough not to believe in UFO's because they haven't seen one.

    thats moronic. look at every past player that has been proven in violation of NCAA rules in that last 40 years. the evidence is public knowledge, do some fucking research

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:39 PM ET #11

    I think AUBURN should sit CAM out for the last 2 games, besides all we have been hearing all year is that he is not the whole team.  SO i have a good idea, bench him and start that backup and get trucked the last 2 games coach,      thx sir
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    I think AUBURN should sit CAM out for the last 2 games, besides all we have been hearing all year is that he is not the whole team.  SO i have a good idea, bench him and start that backup and get trucked the last 2 games coach,      thx sir
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:39 PM ET #12

    You think they are going to play a fuckin recording of a conversation for you on ESPN? 
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    You think they are going to play a fuckin recording of a conversation for you on ESPN? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LosAngelesKing:

    You are a complete moron if you think Newton is better than Bush. First of all they play two different positions, second Newton is another Vince Young type QB that has yet to win anything, and last thing....he may not even be the best QB let alone player in college right now.

    your from cali, so any opinion of a player comparing him to reggie bush is biased on your part. and if you think that hes not the best player in college football THIS YEAR, you are absolutely insane

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosAngelesKing:

    You are a complete moron if you think Newton is better than Bush. First of all they play two different positions, second Newton is another Vince Young type QB that has yet to win anything, and last thing....he may not even be the best QB let alone player in college right now.

    your from cali, so any opinion of a player comparing him to reggie bush is biased on your part. and if you think that hes not the best player in college football THIS YEAR, you are absolutely insane

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:43 PM ET #14

    comments from him and his dad would make me think he knows his goose is cooked - with the shame of the reggie bush deal still fresh I would think the NCAA is spending every waking moment digging on this one--my guess,, and it's just a guess ,,he 's done
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    comments from him and his dad would make me think he knows his goose is cooked - with the shame of the reggie bush deal still fresh I would think the NCAA is spending every waking moment digging on this one--my guess,, and it's just a guess ,,he 's done
     
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    First off this is from a very reliable source; did not see them take the game off the board based off one big player in vegas betting Georgia. Hello because the people that bet these games knows what is gonig on REALLY not what you hear on ESPN. This week he will still play but once the state and federal regulators get there its over. It wont matter anyways unless Auburn just wants to try and get that extra money from a BCS Bowl. All of Cams games will be wiped off the face of the earth. The NCAA looked totally foolish after Bush. I know Auburn fans dont want to see it but this is EXTEREMLY SERIOUS BUSINESS.  Do Auburn fans really really really believe after everything that has come out and his dad basically saying he did it that Auburn boosters did not pay Cecil or someone attached to him 150k plus. If you say he didnt get paid then you are flat out ignorant. Cam Newton SAID HIMSELF that he DID NOT WANT TO GO TO AUBURN. PERIOD.  BUT the money WAS TOO MUCH. That is 100% VERIFIED and his dad telling Miss State recruiters that its pay to play is 100% documented. He is finished as far as the Heisman; they are already talking about that because they know it will be BUSH all over again. Most people have no clue on what some boosters will do. They are so rich and follow the recruiting process better than some of the recruiters. They know EVERYTHING and they also know where a person like Newton who could turn around an Auburn team is leaning and then find a way to get him to go to AUBURN. So they have associates go and MAKE A DEAL. Do you know remember Reggie Bush? That was done in the FLAT OUT OPEN. Now that state and federal regs are into it. It wont matter if Auburn goes all the way because they will get to the truth because Cam will do just like Bush did because Cam has no reason to lie if he does he screws himself. He stil has the pros to make millions. Auburn is the one that is screwed BIGTIME. They are USC 2010. Enjoy the next 5 years with 30 less scholarships.

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    First off this is from a very reliable source; did not see them take the game off the board based off one big player in vegas betting Georgia. Hello because the people that bet these games knows what is gonig on REALLY not what you hear on ESPN. This week he will still play but once the state and federal regulators get there its over. It wont matter anyways unless Auburn just wants to try and get that extra money from a BCS Bowl. All of Cams games will be wiped off the face of the earth. The NCAA looked totally foolish after Bush. I know Auburn fans dont want to see it but this is EXTEREMLY SERIOUS BUSINESS.  Do Auburn fans really really really believe after everything that has come out and his dad basically saying he did it that Auburn boosters did not pay Cecil or someone attached to him 150k plus. If you say he didnt get paid then you are flat out ignorant. Cam Newton SAID HIMSELF that he DID NOT WANT TO GO TO AUBURN. PERIOD.  BUT the money WAS TOO MUCH. That is 100% VERIFIED and his dad telling Miss State recruiters that its pay to play is 100% documented. He is finished as far as the Heisman; they are already talking about that because they know it will be BUSH all over again. Most people have no clue on what some boosters will do. They are so rich and follow the recruiting process better than some of the recruiters. They know EVERYTHING and they also know where a person like Newton who could turn around an Auburn team is leaning and then find a way to get him to go to AUBURN. So they have associates go and MAKE A DEAL. Do you know remember Reggie Bush? That was done in the FLAT OUT OPEN. Now that state and federal regs are into it. It wont matter if Auburn goes all the way because they will get to the truth because Cam will do just like Bush did because Cam has no reason to lie if he does he screws himself. He stil has the pros to make millions. Auburn is the one that is screwed BIGTIME. They are USC 2010. Enjoy the next 5 years with 30 less scholarships.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2010 - 9:45 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    You think they are going to play a fuckin recording of a conversation for you on ESPN? 

    i said public knowledge you jackass. and as for your comparison to UFOs. if the US government came out and said they have concrete evidence that UFOs exist, would that not be good enough for you. if the NCAA comes out and says they found CONCRETE EVIDENCE that any of the allegations are true, then we can talk about what should happen. but until i see that the NCAA has proof, its all bullshit and auburn wont sit him. not a snowballs chance in hell of that. they have no reason to. by the way did you know lamichael james was arrested for strangling his girlfriend? where the coverage on that Joe Schad you fucking person?

    WAIT FOR FACTS YOU ARROGANT FUCKS

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    You think they are going to play a fuckin recording of a conversation for you on ESPN? 

    i said public knowledge you jackass. and as for your comparison to UFOs. if the US government came out and said they have concrete evidence that UFOs exist, would that not be good enough for you. if the NCAA comes out and says they found CONCRETE EVIDENCE that any of the allegations are true, then we can talk about what should happen. but until i see that the NCAA has proof, its all bullshit and auburn wont sit him. not a snowballs chance in hell of that. they have no reason to. by the way did you know lamichael james was arrested for strangling his girlfriend? where the coverage on that Joe Schad you fucking person?

    WAIT FOR FACTS YOU ARROGANT FUCKS

     
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    AU has won those games w/Cam's running ability all of which will be minimized in the NFL. The strength, speed, raw power, agility of the defense will put him on the IR if he tries that stuff. He just will not be able to last. So good qb at this level - yes good qb at next level - i seriouslly doubt it. But there are rumors Cam's dad and Al Davis are discussing that matter as we speak.

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    AU has won those games w/Cam's running ability all of which will be minimized in the NFL. The strength, speed, raw power, agility of the defense will put him on the IR if he tries that stuff. He just will not be able to last. So good qb at this level - yes good qb at next level - i seriouslly doubt it. But there are rumors Cam's dad and Al Davis are discussing that matter as we speak.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

     Honest question.............When is the last time an allegation of wrong doing with this much traction turned out to be false? I'm sure there are some instances but I can't think of any off hand.

    HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO REGGIE BUSH and it was 10 times worse. Bush made millions and ruined USC. They took back his Heisman; eliminated the NC win; and all the games he played in; and their entire program is totally screwed for years to come; where have you been the last 3 years.

     

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     Honest question.............When is the last time an allegation of wrong doing with this much traction turned out to be false? I'm sure there are some instances but I can't think of any off hand.

    HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOO REGGIE BUSH and it was 10 times worse. Bush made millions and ruined USC. They took back his Heisman; eliminated the NC win; and all the games he played in; and their entire program is totally screwed for years to come; where have you been the last 3 years.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by waitforfacts:

    your from cali, so any opinion of a player comparing him to reggie bush is biased on your part. and if you think that hes not the best player in college football THIS YEAR, you are absolutely insane




    so you think it's ok comparing a QB to a RB? Ok Jerry Rice is better than Joe Montana....see how dumb I can be too. Oh wait I'm from cali so this shows bias too





    for the record, I think LeMichael James is the best college player this year
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    your from cali, so any opinion of a player comparing him to reggie bush is biased on your part. and if you think that hes not the best player in college football THIS YEAR, you are absolutely insane




    so you think it's ok comparing a QB to a RB? Ok Jerry Rice is better than Joe Montana....see how dumb I can be too. Oh wait I'm from cali so this shows bias too





    for the record, I think LeMichael James is the best college player this year
     
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     I am so sick of hearing about this dumbshit who broke the rules, I hope Georgia and then Alabama beat the crap out of Auburn U. It's been kind of entertainig cracking jokes about Newton, but I hope they lose and get their ass beat!

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     I am so sick of hearing about this dumbshit who broke the rules, I hope Georgia and then Alabama beat the crap out of Auburn U. It's been kind of entertainig cracking jokes about Newton, but I hope they lose and get their ass beat!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LosAngelesKing:

    You are a complete moron if you think Newton is better than Bush. First of all they play two different positions, second Newton is another Vince Young type QB that has yet to win anything, and last thing....he may not even be the best QB let alone player in college right now.

    First off Bush is one of the BIGGEST BUSTS IN NFL HISTORY. This guy doesnt even play a position. He is no running back. He is not a receiver. He gets hurts ALL THE TIME. He has spent more time on Injured Reserve than on the field. He was the number 2 pick  and if he wasnt playing for New Orleans he really would be a GIGANTIC BUST; luckily New Orleans lets him play slot because he sure as heck cant run thru the tackle and is no firm WR. I dont think CAM NEWTON is better than anyone. I am saying their pay for play situations are very very similar and if ANYONE thinks that Cam Newton will win the Heisman than you are smoking crack. The ballots are due within 3 weeks and with all of this stuff surrounding him; he is FINISHED. Do you think the Heisman voters want to look like fools again??? Are they going to vote for someone who broke the rules. DONT THINK SO

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosAngelesKing:

    You are a complete moron if you think Newton is better than Bush. First of all they play two different positions, second Newton is another Vince Young type QB that has yet to win anything, and last thing....he may not even be the best QB let alone player in college right now.

    First off Bush is one of the BIGGEST BUSTS IN NFL HISTORY. This guy doesnt even play a position. He is no running back. He is not a receiver. He gets hurts ALL THE TIME. He has spent more time on Injured Reserve than on the field. He was the number 2 pick  and if he wasnt playing for New Orleans he really would be a GIGANTIC BUST; luckily New Orleans lets him play slot because he sure as heck cant run thru the tackle and is no firm WR. I dont think CAM NEWTON is better than anyone. I am saying their pay for play situations are very very similar and if ANYONE thinks that Cam Newton will win the Heisman than you are smoking crack. The ballots are due within 3 weeks and with all of this stuff surrounding him; he is FINISHED. Do you think the Heisman voters want to look like fools again??? Are they going to vote for someone who broke the rules. DONT THINK SO

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LosAngelesKing:




    so you think it's ok comparing a QB to a RB? Ok Jerry Rice is better than Joe Montana....see how dumb I can be too. Oh wait I'm from cali so this shows bias too





    for the record, I think LeMichael James is the best college player this year

    did i try to compare Newton and Bush? no, i just said that you are biased because i can ascertain that you are a homer and biased towards him. Bush, altho title relinquished, was the unequivical best college player in 2005, and Newton, the same for 2010...Lamichael james beats his girlfriend and isnt as fundamentally crucial to his team as Newton, which is the essence of the Heisman trophy. dont be biased. just watch the games and look at the body of work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosAngelesKing:




    so you think it's ok comparing a QB to a RB? Ok Jerry Rice is better than Joe Montana....see how dumb I can be too. Oh wait I'm from cali so this shows bias too





    for the record, I think LeMichael James is the best college player this year

    did i try to compare Newton and Bush? no, i just said that you are biased because i can ascertain that you are a homer and biased towards him. Bush, altho title relinquished, was the unequivical best college player in 2005, and Newton, the same for 2010...Lamichael james beats his girlfriend and isnt as fundamentally crucial to his team as Newton, which is the essence of the Heisman trophy. dont be biased. just watch the games and look at the body of work.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dick747:

    AU has won those games w/Cam's running ability all of which will be minimized in the NFL. The strength, speed, raw power, agility of the defense will put him on the IR if he tries that stuff. He just will not be able to last. So good qb at this level - yes good qb at next level - i seriouslly doubt it. But there are rumors Cam's dad and Al Davis are discussing that matter as we speak.

     

    You are such a joker. Reggie Bush is CONSTANTLY HURT; QB in the NFL take years to be good; look at Vince Young and how good he is now; and I hate Young; every qb needs time but not EVERY QB has they PHYSICAL ABILITY that Cam Newton has. Also I dont like Newton either but would you rather draft Tim BUST Tebow or Cam Newton in the first round. Tebow will NEVER EVER EVER be a start qb because he doesnt have the tools Newton has. Tebow is so far down on the depth chart I dont think he even gets to run the scout team and he was a 1st ROUND PICK. Ridiculous

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    AU has won those games w/Cam's running ability all of which will be minimized in the NFL. The strength, speed, raw power, agility of the defense will put him on the IR if he tries that stuff. He just will not be able to last. So good qb at this level - yes good qb at next level - i seriouslly doubt it. But there are rumors Cam's dad and Al Davis are discussing that matter as we speak.

     

    You are such a joker. Reggie Bush is CONSTANTLY HURT; QB in the NFL take years to be good; look at Vince Young and how good he is now; and I hate Young; every qb needs time but not EVERY QB has they PHYSICAL ABILITY that Cam Newton has. Also I dont like Newton either but would you rather draft Tim BUST Tebow or Cam Newton in the first round. Tebow will NEVER EVER EVER be a start qb because he doesnt have the tools Newton has. Tebow is so far down on the depth chart I dont think he even gets to run the scout team and he was a 1st ROUND PICK. Ridiculous

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

     Honest question.............When is the last time an allegation of wrong doing with this much traction turned out to be false? I'm sure there are some instances but I can't think of any off hand.

    Im waiting for an Auburns fan answer on this??

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     Honest question.............When is the last time an allegation of wrong doing with this much traction turned out to be false? I'm sure there are some instances but I can't think of any off hand.

    Im waiting for an Auburns fan answer on this??

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

     Honest question.............When is the last time an allegation of wrong doing with this much traction turned out to be false? I'm sure there are some instances but I can't think of any off hand.

    Duke lacrosse team but that is about all I can think of off the top of my head.

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     Honest question.............When is the last time an allegation of wrong doing with this much traction turned out to be false? I'm sure there are some instances but I can't think of any off hand.

    Duke lacrosse team but that is about all I can think of off the top of my head.

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