Jimmydafreak

love all the plays jimmy. You are much better than me so it concerns me that I was on literally all the same plays....Lets get it this weekend

 A repeat of Alabama beating Notre Dame 2013 National Championship game.. Alabama 37 Clemson 7..... ROLL TIDE...

Battle of the Titans!  Jimmy VS. Boom!  I'm very interested to see how this plays out.  Jimmy is adamant about his side and this is the most steadfast as I've ever seen Boom on Clemson.   

Got to agree with you Jimmy. Alabama wins the game in the trenches, by from 11-14 points.

  Clemson is a much better team than the 2012 Notre Dame team.  Not only did Notre Dame play a very mediocre schedule, they were really unimpressive against the average teams that they played.  Clemson has at least played some good teams, and have been dominant at times in a way that the 2012 Notre Dame squad never was.

 

He is ALWAYS a great read for sure but, no, I have not read it.  I will certainly be sure to do so though.

 

This game depends upon how well how well D. Watson can rush against the 'Bama D.     I am concerned about this. 

 

 

Alabama vs. Clemson

There is simply no way I can reduce all of my thoughts on this game into writing here.  If I did, it would be a mini novel (and it probably will be anyhow).  So for the sake of brevity, I will try to hit what I think are the most salient points.

This is the matchup I have been rooting for all season, so I’m very happy to see it come to fruition.  I have rooted for an Alabama/Oregon finale in the past, but it never came about.

I have explained this before on Covers, but it bears repeating.  There is a huge difference between defending Michigan State versus Clemson.  Michigan State is a smash mouth team that likes to beat you up in a phone booth.  The problem for Michigan State is that Alabama is much better at that style of play than the Spartans are.  In fact, they are significantly better at it than anyone in the nation.  We saw that in the 2011 with Kirk Cousins under center, and we saw a re-run of the same movie this season with Conner Cook under center.  And if they play again next season, the result will again be similar.  That is why I posted on Covers (several times I believe) that Alabama is the easiest bet of the bowl season, because the outcome was so predictable.

Clemson is a completely different animal offensively.  As we all know, they are a HUNH team with an extremely talented and athletic quarterback in Deshaun Watson.  Clemson will be all about spreading Alabama out, getting Clemson's skill players in space against Alabama's secondary and relying on Watson to make the proper reads.  Clemson will try to get the snap count up and play at a high tempo, and hope that pays dividends late in the game.

Clemson frequently utilizes run, pass option plays (RPO) which account for a lot of their big plays.  Watson makes a simple pre-snap read, and reacts accordingly.  If, for example, the quarterback is unaccounted for in the defensive alignment, he will usually take off and run.  Watson has been a big weapon in the Clemson running game all season, and I don’t think anything will change in this game – QB draws and QB power will happen.

But like I cautioned in my Alabama/Texas write-up a few years ago, I said that if Texas insists on running Colt McCoy between the tackles, there is a reasonable chance he won’t finish the game.  And what happened?  The very first time he did it, he got knocked out of the game.  The same thing applies here.  There is a reason NFL teams don’t send their QBs on kamikaze missions between the tackles.  And make no mistake about it; Alabama’s front 7 is an NFL front 7 (all of them) – the very kind of front 7 that NFL coaches don’t let their QBs run into.  I honestly hope it doesn’t happen, but if Clemson insists on repeatedly running Watson between the tackles, don’t be shocked if he finds himself on the sidelines watching his backup finish the game under center in his stead.

So how does Alabama prepare for RPO?  They do so by making one of the options happen.  In other words, the defense will simply tell Watson what the read is, give him the play, and then attack that choice.

You often hear the mantra that a HUNH offense with an athletic running QB is Alabama’s Kyptonite.  If you are betting on Clemson based on that belief, a) you haven’t been paying attention, and b) you deserve to lose your money and probably will.  Alabama has played 7 or 8 teams that run HUNH, and they have completely shut all of them down.  Here’s a list of how some of the QBs Alabama has faced this season have fared.

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Chad Kelly                  Ole Miss                        8/21

Greyson Lambert        Georgia                         6/1

Brandon Allen              Arkansas                      7/6

Kyler Murray                Texas A&M                   2/4

Joshua Dobbs              Tennessee                  16/19

Brandon Harris             LSU                              5/20

Jeremy Johnson           Auburn                         6/-18

Dak Prescott                 Mississippi State          26/14

Treon Harris                 Florida                          11/-4

Moreover, Alabama leads the country in opposing QBR, holding opposing QBs to a rating of just 12.1.  That is the best rating by any FBS defense in the last ten years.

I’m sure it will be argued, and perhaps rightly so, that Deshaun Watson and Clemson are much better that any of the other QBs/teams that Alabama has faced this season.  Maybe so, but what you must understand, far from this type of offensive scheme being Alabama’s Kryptonite, Alabama has the ideal defense to slow/shut HUNH offenses like Clemson’s down.  In fact if I could pick any defense in the nation to shut down a HUNH offense, I would take Alabama, and whoever is second is far behind.  That is so because Alabama’s defense is specifically built from the ground up to do just that.  One key change that Saban and Kirby Smart made in response to facing HUNH offenses, was to get rid of the big run-stuffing safety’s, and replacing them with 5* caliber cornerbacks.  And when Alabama plays a base nickel like they will most of this game, they will have five really talented cornerbacks on the field at the same time.

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Of course when offensive coordinators see 5 corners and 6 in the box this would dictate run.  The problem for every team that has faced Alabama this season is that those 6 are so deep, so talented, so disciplined, so gap-sound and so well coached that teams have not even been able to run the ball against even Alabama’s nickel defense.  Please understand what I’m saying here.  Alabama has shut down the running game of every single HUNH offense they have faced playing nickel!  If that happens in this game, and to a certain extent I think it will, Clemson is pretty much dead and stinking offensively.  That will force Watson to throw and attempt to make plays right into the teeth of the defensive scheme.  That I believe, as I have said previously in this thread, will lead to Watson throwing interceptions.

The one thing I have noticed from watching Clemson games this week is that, outside of maybe Boston College, no team has been able to shut down Clemson’s running attack.  And because of that, Clemson has not been involved in a single game this season where they were forced to throw the ball to win.  I absolutely think that will change Monday night.  Alabama holds opponents to 2.3 yards per rush, and 53.5% of a teams’ yards per carry average – an absolutely absurd number.  If that holds true in this game, that would put Clemson around 2.66 per carry, and that’s simply not enough to keep the sticks moving.

Spread teams are dependent upon consistently getting reliable yardage to move the sticks.  When defenses are able to minimize the easy yardage the HUNH offenses are so dependent on, rather than exhaust the opposing defense with fast-paced sustained drives, they just hurry up and punt.

Another thing I noticed from watching film this week is that linebacking Clemson has faced in the ACC are quite poor.  Much of Clemson’s success has come by way of isolating a receiver or back on a linebacker, or through the zone read.  It is not a stretch to say that Alabama’s linebackers are far superior to anything Clemson has faced all season, so I think they will find the going much tougher than what they are accustomed to.

Another thing worth pointing out is that competition matters.  Clemson’s stats were accumulated against ACC teams, and If the bowl games tell us anything, they tell us that the SEC defenses that Alabama faced are significantly better than the defenses Clemson faced.  Look no further than the results of the bowl teams Clemson played versus the results of the bowl teams Alabama played.  For the most part the bowl teams Clemson played got blown out, while the bowl teams Alabama faced blew other teams out.

Because this write-up has gotten so long already, I will only briefly discuss Alabama’s offense versus Clemson’s defense.  I understand that Clemson has a very talented front 4 (linebackers not so much), and a very talented secondary.  That said, Clemson’s defense is really not much better than what Alabama saw week in and week out in conference play.  I will also note that Clemson has not faced anything remotely on the level of Alabama’s offensive line/running back combination.

I expect Clemson to take their chances with their very talented cornerbacks to play bump-and-run coverage against Calvin Ridley and ArDarius Stewart, and hope the rest of the defense can slow down the Derrick Henry freight train.  This probably won’t be too different than what Michigan State tried to do, which is take away Henry and force Jake Coker to beat them.  The big advantage Clemson has here is that they have a far better secondary than Michigan State, so it’ll be interesting to see how Jake Coker versus man coverage will play out.  I do know one thing.  Lane Kiffin will take what the defense gives him, and I suspect he will attack and shaky Clemson linebacking corps in the passing game with guys like O.J. Howard and Richard Mullaney.  I noticed that Clemson doesn’t rotate many people on the defensive side of the ball, which will result in their smallish albeit athletic Clemson front 7 being bludgeoned into submission by Henry and the offensive line in the 2^nd half.

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My take on this game is that Alabama’s defensive line, linebackers and secondary will be vastly superior to anything Clemson has faced all season, and they will do what they have done all season – shut down the run, push the pocket up the middle, and smoother recievers.  They will shut down Clemson’s running attack, contain Deshaun Watson, and force him to become something he’s not – a pocket passer.  Watson is a one read and run quarterback.  When Alabama shuts down Watson’s running lanes and locks down his receivers like they did to Michigan State, I think we will see him – like Connor Cook - get frustrated and start to force things, and that will be the beginning of the end for Clemson.

The real problem for Clemson’s offense and defense is that, unless they’ve been practicing against the Carolina Panthers on their off week,  there is simply no way for them to prepare for the physicality and ferocity of what they will encounter Monday night.  Clemson will probably hang tough for the first 30 minutes, but will simply not be able to withstand the onslaught in the trenches on either side of the ball for 60 minutes.

The final score of this game will be directly related to Deshaun’s frustration level.  If it is high, and he makes a bunch of mistakes, this one could get ugly.  I do, however, think Clemson is too good offensively not to make some plays and score some points, although I don’t think it will be many.  I look for a final score of something along the lines of 34-13 with 17 being Clemson’s absolute high-water mark.

My Plays:

Alabama -6.5 vs. Clemson

Alabama (2^nd Half) vs. Clemson

Clemson Team Total UNDER 22

Alabama Team Total OVER 29

 

 

Concerned about it as an Alabama backer or a Clemson backer?

 

I am going to send a copy of this book to Obama so that he can address the nation in hoping to see that line moved. 

#2 seed, being fav by not 3 but 7 tells us something.  Vegas is highly in favor of bama and is looking for money on the clemson side to balance things out. 

Clemson shouldn't be here.  It should of been Ohio state for a rematch but like some of them other bowl games out there and the losing opponents, someone is being over-rated here. 

I'm with jimmy and betting the tough shed on Alabama laying the points. 

I can appreciate the time you have taken to give your thoughts on this game....and I can say this, I usually never care too much about what others think when it comes to breaking a game down vs what I think in my head...but in this case I'm glad you did and I think we might have a good conversation leading up  to the game.


Let's talk about what I agree with you on:

Yes and YES! Anyone who believes that Saban hasn't adapted to his " kryptonite  " isn't paying attention. If you read my brief breakdown of this game you would see that Saban has actually recruited different athletes to defended HUNH offenses. He has gotten better at 2 places. LB where he isn't using the traditional 270ln LB who can cover in space, yet he has changed to a more quicker lighter athlete who can do what?? cover in space. The other is of course the fast lighter pass rusher who can get after the QB. In years past never seemed to have that Vic Beasley type of guy who could play meet you at the QB.


Let's talk about what I disagree: 

The guys you listed that Bama has played at QB are not what?

They're not Deshaun Watson...not even close. Watson besides being a tremendous athlete he reads defense better than any of the QB's you mentioned.

Let's talk about the corners Mac island and Tank. If Alabama wants to be successful at passing the ball you are correct... they better attack the 2nd level at the LB position. Why? IMO, Coker has NO shot at beating Tank and Mac island. These will be the best corners Bama has faced all year...and why will they be locked down in this game? Venables knows what I know.... We don't have to worry about Coker running the ball. Clemson has played so many teams with dual threat QB's lately that the secondary has to help with accountability. This game!!! Not so much.. it's do your job.

I completely disagree with your bets on Alabama, Clemson TT under and Alabama TT over. As a matter of fact.... I think the chances of Alabama team total going over 29 is are almost about slim and none....only way it happens is of course what you said.... Clemson turns the ball over, and special teams return or defensive TD's. I for one, am very confident that Alabama can NOT line up and drive the field and score offensively no more than 14 points...at best.

Forget the Deshaun vs Alabama focal point here.....The biggest advantage Clemson has in this game IMO, is the Clemson's DL completely getting after Jake Coker. I think at the end of the night every ESPN analysis and talking head will repeat what I'm about to say. Wow.....the Clemson DL took over this football game.


I have said it over and over....and it's simple. We have Deshaun Watson and you don't.

Look forward to you response.......     I think we can give this forum a good conversation leading up to this game.      

Boom and Freak great stuff. Thanks for sharing your insights. Should be a very good game to watch. I think we all can agree turnovers may go a long way in deciding this one. Nothing new there.

thank you for the novel. it confirms that under 51 is golden. thank you.  23-9 alabama

Four of Bama's five non-conference opponents turned it over fewer than 3 times, so I'm not sure that's a reasonable assumption.

Hi jimmydeafreak what says on the game between Jacksonville State and North Dakota State. I m over 55,5?

What are your thoughts on North Dakota st vs Jacksonville st

Even though I didn't play it, I lean UNDER 28 1st half.

 

I side with the team that I think has the better defense . . . Jacksonville State +3.5.(Hook)

 

Here is an excellent article that elaborates on my point about the adjustments Alabama has made to revolutionize defending spread HUNH offenses.

How Alabama caught up to the hurry-up offense

https://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/113160/how-alabama-caught-up-to-the-hurry-up