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    ALABAMA +10 WRITE UP TOO FOLLOW!

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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 12:37 PM ET #76

    We all know who is going to win here and its Florida, I am a big Alabama fan , I would even lay the 10 points, the difference in this ball game is Tebow, he can do it all he can run the ball,pass it ,he's the best QB in America. Florida is the best team in the nation, as far as I can see, NOTHING WILL STOP THE FLORIA GATORS FROM GOING TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP
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    We all know who is going to win here and its Florida, I am a big Alabama fan , I would even lay the 10 points, the difference in this ball game is Tebow, he can do it all he can run the ball,pass it ,he's the best QB in America. Florida is the best team in the nation, as far as I can see, NOTHING WILL STOP THE FLORIA GATORS FROM GOING TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 1:17 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by delphioracle:

    Tim Tebow's whole entire life up to this point has been about leading the Florida Gators into the Georgia Dome to play for a SEC championship. He has been visualizing this moment since he was old enough to know what a football is.



    So? Big deal.

    Todd Marinovich was the same way and look where that loser ended up - in prison.

    BTW, do you think Tebow has the patent on this? Or, in other words, do you think the Alabama's side hasn't felt the same way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by delphioracle:

    Tim Tebow's whole entire life up to this point has been about leading the Florida Gators into the Georgia Dome to play for a SEC championship. He has been visualizing this moment since he was old enough to know what a football is.



    So? Big deal.

    Todd Marinovich was the same way and look where that loser ended up - in prison.

    BTW, do you think Tebow has the patent on this? Or, in other words, do you think the Alabama's side hasn't felt the same way?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 1:30 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by bibendi23:

    Man I wish there was one Bama back other than me that didnt have their location as Alabama or some affiliated name on this site

     

    i'm here bibendi and backing the tide

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    Quote Originally Posted by bibendi23:

    Man I wish there was one Bama back other than me that didnt have their location as Alabama or some affiliated name on this site

     

    i'm here bibendi and backing the tide

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 1:31 PM ET #79

    Nevada here
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    Nevada here
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 1:32 PM ET #80

    Nice. Were still in the minority however.
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    Nice. Were still in the minority however.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 1:46 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by jordyn31:

    FYI Meyer has an 82% winning record (81-17) and Saban,s is 69.6% (110-48) So don't tell me Saban is a much better coach than Meyer. Meyer has the same winnibg % at Bowling Green and Utah as he does at Florida. Against his big 3 rivals, Tenn, Ga, and FSU he is 11-1
     
    Look at the QB match. Who would you take in a big game Tebow or Wilson?
     
    Against 5 common opp Florida is 45-15 while Bama is 28-19. They did beat ole miss 24-20 while the gators lost 31-30. Since then the gators and tebow have been on a mission.In the last 3 games they are rushing for 350 yds a game and have only allowed about 80..Since the ole miss loss Tebow vowed to give everything he has and has done so.He is one of the best college QB of all time


    a) Time will tell about Urban Meyer. To me, as well as most big time programs, winning % isn't the objective - the national title is. Meyer won in his 2nd year, hence not with all of his recruits and/or someone else's team. Respectable, yes. But, Saban has the same thing this year. On the other hand, Saban built LSU starting in 99 and winning it all in 04'. Meyer is an excellent coach, this is his team, and he doesn't have to play 2nd fiddle to anyone. Personally, in this situation, I'd rather have Saban.

    b) Tebow or Wilson? 80% of the time, Tebow. But, it depends on what sort of offense I was running. Wilson fits this offense and runs this offense that's suited for him. It works. Tebow does at his school as well. To me, Wilson is like Ringo Starr. When the Beatles fired Pete Best and replaced them with Ringo, someone said to John Lennon, why did you do that, Pete is a much better drummer? Lennon said, you're right, Pete is, but Ringo is a better Beatle.

    c) In games of this magnitude, I never look at common opponents. It's a sure fire way for me to lose. For me, regular season works better in this regard.

    My final words are this... on the surface, Florida looks like a mortal lock to blow out Alabama. But, rarely do you see teams as fundamentally sound and as well coached as these guys get beat that badly. I think +10 is a good play and this will be a terrific game to watch. Have a great weekend folks..
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    FYI Meyer has an 82% winning record (81-17) and Saban,s is 69.6% (110-48) So don't tell me Saban is a much better coach than Meyer. Meyer has the same winnibg % at Bowling Green and Utah as he does at Florida. Against his big 3 rivals, Tenn, Ga, and FSU he is 11-1
     
    Look at the QB match. Who would you take in a big game Tebow or Wilson?
     
    Against 5 common opp Florida is 45-15 while Bama is 28-19. They did beat ole miss 24-20 while the gators lost 31-30. Since then the gators and tebow have been on a mission.In the last 3 games they are rushing for 350 yds a game and have only allowed about 80..Since the ole miss loss Tebow vowed to give everything he has and has done so.He is one of the best college QB of all time


    a) Time will tell about Urban Meyer. To me, as well as most big time programs, winning % isn't the objective - the national title is. Meyer won in his 2nd year, hence not with all of his recruits and/or someone else's team. Respectable, yes. But, Saban has the same thing this year. On the other hand, Saban built LSU starting in 99 and winning it all in 04'. Meyer is an excellent coach, this is his team, and he doesn't have to play 2nd fiddle to anyone. Personally, in this situation, I'd rather have Saban.

    b) Tebow or Wilson? 80% of the time, Tebow. But, it depends on what sort of offense I was running. Wilson fits this offense and runs this offense that's suited for him. It works. Tebow does at his school as well. To me, Wilson is like Ringo Starr. When the Beatles fired Pete Best and replaced them with Ringo, someone said to John Lennon, why did you do that, Pete is a much better drummer? Lennon said, you're right, Pete is, but Ringo is a better Beatle.

    c) In games of this magnitude, I never look at common opponents. It's a sure fire way for me to lose. For me, regular season works better in this regard.

    My final words are this... on the surface, Florida looks like a mortal lock to blow out Alabama. But, rarely do you see teams as fundamentally sound and as well coached as these guys get beat that badly. I think +10 is a good play and this will be a terrific game to watch. Have a great weekend folks..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 1:49 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by bibendi23:

    Nice. Were still in the minority however.

    Looks like you're in the majority

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    Quote Originally Posted by bibendi23:

    Nice. Were still in the minority however.

    Looks like you're in the majority

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 1:51 PM ET #83

    Covers minority G8RB8
     
    I realize the public will see #1 and 10 point dogs and jump on it. I dont care about the public though
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    I realize the public will see #1 and 10 point dogs and jump on it. I dont care about the public though
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2008 - 2:34 PM ET #84

    Guys, Harvins has been updated to probable......He has a high ankle injury. That type of injury takes a few weeks too get back to 100%. Even if he does play expect him to be limited or at 60-70%.
     
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    Guys, Harvins has been updated to probable......He has a high ankle injury. That type of injury takes a few weeks too get back to 100%. Even if he does play expect him to be limited or at 60-70%.
     
     
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    Two interesting facts I just found:
     
    1) PENALTIES
    PENALTIES G No. Yards Avg/G
    1. Alabama 12 48 422 35.2
    2. Vanderbilt 12 56 473 39.4
    3. Kentucky 12 65 527 43.9
    4. Tennessee 12 66 539 44.9
    5. S. Carolina 12 65 540 45.0
    6. Miss. State 12 68 544 45.3
    7. Auburn 12 74 568 47.3
    8. Arkansas 12 79 584 48.7
    9. LSU 12 76 589 49.1
    10. Ole Miss 12 64 609 50.8
    11. Florida 12 88 713 59.4
    12. Georgia 12 105 885 73.8
     
    2) TIME OF POSSESSION
     
    TIME OF POSSESSION G Poss. Time Avg/G
    1. Alabama 12 390:32 32:32
    2. Georgia 12 372:22 31:01
    3. Arkansas 12 365:11 30:25
    4. Miss. State 12 363:02 30:15
    5. Auburn 12 362:26 30:12
    6. LSU 12 362:06 30:10
    7. S. Carolina 12 361:59 30:09
    8. Vanderbilt 12 359:01 29:55
    9. Ole Miss 12 357:43 29:48
    10. Florida 12 354:27 29:32
    11. Kentucky 12 352:14 29:21
    12. Tennessee 12 342:34 28:32

     

    1)FL is the second most penalized team in the SEC. This is bad because UGA is like the 5th worst team in the country in terms of penalties.

    2) Alabama CONTROLS THE CLOCK!

     

    These stat are important for backers looking for a large cover sporead. IF alabama can control the clock, they can keep this score close. Also, look for a few key penalties from FL to keep bama in a close one. Bama is the least penalized team, this means they are more disciplined. I think Saban uses tiem managemnet to keep this game in control.

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    Two interesting facts I just found:
     
    1) PENALTIES
    PENALTIES G No. Yards Avg/G
    1. Alabama 12 48 422 35.2
    2. Vanderbilt 12 56 473 39.4
    3. Kentucky 12 65 527 43.9
    4. Tennessee 12 66 539 44.9
    5. S. Carolina 12 65 540 45.0
    6. Miss. State 12 68 544 45.3
    7. Auburn 12 74 568 47.3
    8. Arkansas 12 79 584 48.7
    9. LSU 12 76 589 49.1
    10. Ole Miss 12 64 609 50.8
    11. Florida 12 88 713 59.4
    12. Georgia 12 105 885 73.8
     
    2) TIME OF POSSESSION
     
    TIME OF POSSESSION G Poss. Time Avg/G
    1. Alabama 12 390:32 32:32
    2. Georgia 12 372:22 31:01
    3. Arkansas 12 365:11 30:25
    4. Miss. State 12 363:02 30:15
    5. Auburn 12 362:26 30:12
    6. LSU 12 362:06 30:10
    7. S. Carolina 12 361:59 30:09
    8. Vanderbilt 12 359:01 29:55
    9. Ole Miss 12 357:43 29:48
    10. Florida 12 354:27 29:32
    11. Kentucky 12 352:14 29:21
    12. Tennessee 12 342:34 28:32

     

    1)FL is the second most penalized team in the SEC. This is bad because UGA is like the 5th worst team in the country in terms of penalties.

    2) Alabama CONTROLS THE CLOCK!

     

    These stat are important for backers looking for a large cover sporead. IF alabama can control the clock, they can keep this score close. Also, look for a few key penalties from FL to keep bama in a close one. Bama is the least penalized team, this means they are more disciplined. I think Saban uses tiem managemnet to keep this game in control.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 10:14 AM ET #86

    Percy Harvins Impact on the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP

     

    Percy Harvins leads the SEC in:

     

    -SCcoring TDS

    -Total points scored

     

    Percy Harvins is 9th in receiving

     

    Percy Harvins is 10th in receptions

     

    Percy Harvins is 5th in all-purpose yards.

     

    PLEASE TELL ME HOW HIS ABSENCE WILL NOT AFFECT FLORDIA!

     

    IF HE IS OUT THAN ALABAMA EASILY COVERS!

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    Percy Harvins Impact on the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP

     

    Percy Harvins leads the SEC in:

     

    -SCcoring TDS

    -Total points scored

     

    Percy Harvins is 9th in receiving

     

    Percy Harvins is 10th in receptions

     

    Percy Harvins is 5th in all-purpose yards.

     

    PLEASE TELL ME HOW HIS ABSENCE WILL NOT AFFECT FLORDIA!

     

    IF HE IS OUT THAN ALABAMA EASILY COVERS!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 10:22 AM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by adam071:



    You do know that Bama's SOS is 79 and Florida's is 11 right?  Computers don't lie, UF has played the harder schedule.
    Good point!
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    You do know that Bama's SOS is 79 and Florida's is 11 right?  Computers don't lie, UF has played the harder schedule.
    Good point!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 10:25 AM ET #88

    GO!  BAMA!   31---28
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    GO!  BAMA!   31---28
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 10:32 AM ET #89

    Quote Originally Posted by adam071:



    You do know that Bama's SOS is 79 and Florida's is 11 right?  Computers don't lie, UF has played the harder schedule.

     

    Where the did you get your info from Adam!

    Let me show you some proof:

    Stats dont lie:

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    1. Georgia 1018
    2. Vanderbilt 1004
    3. UCLA 990
    4. Washington 980
    5. Arkansas 975
    6. Baylor 972
    7. Alabama 967
    8. Texas 958
    9. Michigan State 948
    10. South Carolina 945
    11. Michigan 943
    12. Oregon State 939
    12. Tennessee 939
    14. Mississippi 937
    15. Florida 934

    I F I CAN READ, IT LOOKS LIKE ALABAMAS SOS IS STRONGER!

     

     

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    You do know that Bama's SOS is 79 and Florida's is 11 right?  Computers don't lie, UF has played the harder schedule.

     

    Where the did you get your info from Adam!

    Let me show you some proof:

    Stats dont lie:

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    1. Georgia 1018
    2. Vanderbilt 1004
    3. UCLA 990
    4. Washington 980
    5. Arkansas 975
    6. Baylor 972
    7. Alabama 967
    8. Texas 958
    9. Michigan State 948
    10. South Carolina 945
    11. Michigan 943
    12. Oregon State 939
    12. Tennessee 939
    14. Mississippi 937
    15. Florida 934

    I F I CAN READ, IT LOOKS LIKE ALABAMAS SOS IS STRONGER!

     

     

     
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    CHAD10 will you please refrain from calling him HARVINS?
    Who is HARVINS???
    The guys name is Pecy Harvin.
     
    I have been on here for 2 days reading why people love ALA to cover the spread. I have heard excuses like they should have lost to LSU and GA if it were not for the turnovers. How can you overlook turnovers? Fla is just as fast on defense as they are on offense.
     
    I have heard about running the score up. Fla has played everyone on the sideline 3 maybe even 4 times this year with 2 of the times being in rival games(GA and LSU). Might I add that those same 2 teams ALA could not put them away.
     
    Lot of fuss being made about the spread. Don't discredit Fla defense as much as it seems that you are. Very underrated squad this year.
     
    Mr Bibendi himelf said he capped the game at 9 for FLA and he still is on here saying that turnovers and such should not count towards this game.
     
    Sounds to me like vegas is getting their wish by people jumping all over BAMA. 
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    CHAD10 will you please refrain from calling him HARVINS?
    Who is HARVINS???
    The guys name is Pecy Harvin.
     
    I have been on here for 2 days reading why people love ALA to cover the spread. I have heard excuses like they should have lost to LSU and GA if it were not for the turnovers. How can you overlook turnovers? Fla is just as fast on defense as they are on offense.
     
    I have heard about running the score up. Fla has played everyone on the sideline 3 maybe even 4 times this year with 2 of the times being in rival games(GA and LSU). Might I add that those same 2 teams ALA could not put them away.
     
    Lot of fuss being made about the spread. Don't discredit Fla defense as much as it seems that you are. Very underrated squad this year.
     
    Mr Bibendi himelf said he capped the game at 9 for FLA and he still is on here saying that turnovers and such should not count towards this game.
     
    Sounds to me like vegas is getting their wish by people jumping all over BAMA. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8isgr8:

    CHAD10 will you please refrain from calling him HARVINS?
    Who is HARVINS???
    The guys name is Pecy Harvin.
     
    I have been on here for 2 days reading why people love ALA to cover the spread. I have heard excuses like they should have lost to LSU and GA if it were not for the turnovers. How can you overlook turnovers? Fla is just as fast on defense as they are on offense.
     
    I have heard about running the score up. Fla has played everyone on the sideline 3 maybe even 4 times this year with 2 of the times being in rival games(GA and LSU). Might I add that those same 2 teams ALA could not put them away.
     
    Lot of fuss being made about the spread. Don't discredit Fla defense as much as it seems that you are. Very underrated squad this year.
     
    Mr Bibendi himelf said he capped the game at 9 for FLA and he still is on here saying that turnovers and such should not count towards this game.
     
    Sounds to me like vegas is getting their wish by people jumping all over BAMA. 

    I havent discredited FL defense... Please show me where i have done this.

    Dude, try finiding some facts to back your stuff up with instead of majoring on the minors; EX. "Who is Harvins"?  

    Plase give some sort of stat or proff about your opinions.

    Great point about FL defense. You gave some good examples and facts too back that fact up with. GOOD JOB!

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    CHAD10 will you please refrain from calling him HARVINS?
    Who is HARVINS???
    The guys name is Pecy Harvin.
     
    I have been on here for 2 days reading why people love ALA to cover the spread. I have heard excuses like they should have lost to LSU and GA if it were not for the turnovers. How can you overlook turnovers? Fla is just as fast on defense as they are on offense.
     
    I have heard about running the score up. Fla has played everyone on the sideline 3 maybe even 4 times this year with 2 of the times being in rival games(GA and LSU). Might I add that those same 2 teams ALA could not put them away.
     
    Lot of fuss being made about the spread. Don't discredit Fla defense as much as it seems that you are. Very underrated squad this year.
     
    Mr Bibendi himelf said he capped the game at 9 for FLA and he still is on here saying that turnovers and such should not count towards this game.
     
    Sounds to me like vegas is getting their wish by people jumping all over BAMA. 

    I havent discredited FL defense... Please show me where i have done this.

    Dude, try finiding some facts to back your stuff up with instead of majoring on the minors; EX. "Who is Harvins"?  

    Plase give some sort of stat or proff about your opinions.

    Great point about FL defense. You gave some good examples and facts too back that fact up with. GOOD JOB!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bibendi23:

    Man I wish there was one Bama back other than me that didnt have their location as Alabama or some affiliated name on this site

    B , I have a lot of respect for your capping, and I have tailed you since I found this site. You have made me money PERIOD

    That said, I think John Parker Wilson is an awful QB, I have lost money on him all year. The guy gets confused easily middle field zones, doesnt throw an outs well (weak arm), and when the blitz comes whats he gonna do with his reads (dont rust him. Bama has a good offensive line (Fla has a good Defensive line). Bama has a great back in coffee (thats your whole offense).

    Tebow can pass and run. He has great weapons (WR's, TE with speed and hands). Deep and RB Demps , Moody etc. Too many weapons, Bama cant take it all away.

    My game plan would be to stop the running game of Alabama (stack the line), press up the middle, force Wilson to throw. Wilson will make turnovers. Once they are down two touches Bama can't come back with their passing game against a fast tough Fla D.

    I see a potential blowout only because Bama is not made to play catch up. The only way i see Bama covering is that the play complete mistake free football, and have long drives which keep Fla off the field. They have to dominate the time of possession by almost a two to one ratio. I think its too much to ask. To me this is like a Super Bowl match up of the 90 Giants againts the Buffalo Bills with the K-Gun offense except Jim Kelly couldnt run like Tebow. The Giants were able to control the clock and shorten the game it was a rare thing of beauty.

    Good Luck all

     

    Fla 31  Bama 17

     

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    Man I wish there was one Bama back other than me that didnt have their location as Alabama or some affiliated name on this site

    B , I have a lot of respect for your capping, and I have tailed you since I found this site. You have made me money PERIOD

    That said, I think John Parker Wilson is an awful QB, I have lost money on him all year. The guy gets confused easily middle field zones, doesnt throw an outs well (weak arm), and when the blitz comes whats he gonna do with his reads (dont rust him. Bama has a good offensive line (Fla has a good Defensive line). Bama has a great back in coffee (thats your whole offense).

    Tebow can pass and run. He has great weapons (WR's, TE with speed and hands). Deep and RB Demps , Moody etc. Too many weapons, Bama cant take it all away.

    My game plan would be to stop the running game of Alabama (stack the line), press up the middle, force Wilson to throw. Wilson will make turnovers. Once they are down two touches Bama can't come back with their passing game against a fast tough Fla D.

    I see a potential blowout only because Bama is not made to play catch up. The only way i see Bama covering is that the play complete mistake free football, and have long drives which keep Fla off the field. They have to dominate the time of possession by almost a two to one ratio. I think its too much to ask. To me this is like a Super Bowl match up of the 90 Giants againts the Buffalo Bills with the K-Gun offense except Jim Kelly couldnt run like Tebow. The Giants were able to control the clock and shorten the game it was a rare thing of beauty.

    Good Luck all

     

    Fla 31  Bama 17

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qulicious:

    B , I have a lot of respect for your capping, and I have tailed you since I found this site. You have made me money PERIOD

    That said, I think John Parker Wilson is an awful QB, I have lost money on him all year. The guy gets confused easily middle field zones, doesnt throw an outs well (weak arm), and when the blitz comes whats he gonna do with his reads (dont rust him. Bama has a good offensive line (Fla has a good Defensive line). Bama has a great back in coffee (thats your whole offense).

    Tebow can pass and run. He has great weapons (WR's, TE with speed and hands). Deep and RB Demps , Moody etc. Too many weapons, Bama cant take it all away.

    My game plan would be to stop the running game of Alabama (stack the line), press up the middle, force Wilson to throw. Wilson will make turnovers. Once they are down two touches Bama can't come back with their passing game against a fast tough Fla D.

    I see a potential blowout only because Bama is not made to play catch up. The only way i see Bama covering is that the play complete mistake free football, and have long drives which keep Fla off the field. They have to dominate the time of possession by almost a two to one ratio. I think its too much to ask. To me this is like a Super Bowl match up of the 90 Giants againts the Buffalo Bills with the K-Gun offense except Jim Kelly couldnt run like Tebow. The Giants were able to control the clock and shorten the game it was a rare thing of beauty.

    Good Luck all

     

    Fla 31  Bama 17

     

    Thank you for the post

    Why do you think BAMA cant play catch-up?  They havent had to play catch-up all year long....They normally have the game won by half-time.

    J wilson really hasnt  had too step-up this year. They run the ball well and control the clock. I do agree with you on the confidence issue of J Wilson. However, I havent seen him under too much pressure this year,so, it is hard to see if he cant handle it.

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    B , I have a lot of respect for your capping, and I have tailed you since I found this site. You have made me money PERIOD

    That said, I think John Parker Wilson is an awful QB, I have lost money on him all year. The guy gets confused easily middle field zones, doesnt throw an outs well (weak arm), and when the blitz comes whats he gonna do with his reads (dont rust him. Bama has a good offensive line (Fla has a good Defensive line). Bama has a great back in coffee (thats your whole offense).

    Tebow can pass and run. He has great weapons (WR's, TE with speed and hands). Deep and RB Demps , Moody etc. Too many weapons, Bama cant take it all away.

    My game plan would be to stop the running game of Alabama (stack the line), press up the middle, force Wilson to throw. Wilson will make turnovers. Once they are down two touches Bama can't come back with their passing game against a fast tough Fla D.

    I see a potential blowout only because Bama is not made to play catch up. The only way i see Bama covering is that the play complete mistake free football, and have long drives which keep Fla off the field. They have to dominate the time of possession by almost a two to one ratio. I think its too much to ask. To me this is like a Super Bowl match up of the 90 Giants againts the Buffalo Bills with the K-Gun offense except Jim Kelly couldnt run like Tebow. The Giants were able to control the clock and shorten the game it was a rare thing of beauty.

    Good Luck all

     

    Fla 31  Bama 17

     

    Thank you for the post

    Why do you think BAMA cant play catch-up?  They havent had to play catch-up all year long....They normally have the game won by half-time.

    J wilson really hasnt  had too step-up this year. They run the ball well and control the clock. I do agree with you on the confidence issue of J Wilson. However, I havent seen him under too much pressure this year,so, it is hard to see if he cant handle it.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2008 - 12:06 PM ET #94

    Alabama cant play catch up chad
     
    Nothing over 10 points atleast. This cover will be decided by halftime either way
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    Alabama cant play catch up chad
     
    Nothing over 10 points atleast. This cover will be decided by halftime either way
     
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    i'll wait til game time when the lines comes down under 10. I'm sorry, #1 team getting a TD and a FG? Please.
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    i'll wait til game time when the lines comes down under 10. I'm sorry, #1 team getting a TD and a FG? Please.
     
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    Why di I think they can't play catch up. How many predominantly running teams in history were come from behind teams. Their style of offense isn't built to come from behind. I know they are undefeated, I know they only give up 11 or so points a game. They score 32 a game but how they do it is important?? They run, run, run, create turnovers, short field etc.
     
    I am making a major assumption on which I think the game is ultimately hinged.
     
    They won't control the clock. They need to dominate up front, they won't and I dont expect John Parker to help out. He's not going to throw the ball down the field.
     
    So if they get behind in this one its all over and could get ugly.
     
    Defense edge : Bama (slight)
    Run Offense edge: Neutral
    WR edge : Fla (Big)
    QB edge: Fla (Big)
    Field Neutral
    Big Game Experience Fla (Big)
    Special Teams edge Fla
    TOP : Slight edge to Bama 32 to 29
     
     
     
     
     
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    Why di I think they can't play catch up. How many predominantly running teams in history were come from behind teams. Their style of offense isn't built to come from behind. I know they are undefeated, I know they only give up 11 or so points a game. They score 32 a game but how they do it is important?? They run, run, run, create turnovers, short field etc.
     
    I am making a major assumption on which I think the game is ultimately hinged.
     
    They won't control the clock. They need to dominate up front, they won't and I dont expect John Parker to help out. He's not going to throw the ball down the field.
     
    So if they get behind in this one its all over and could get ugly.
     
    Defense edge : Bama (slight)
    Run Offense edge: Neutral
    WR edge : Fla (Big)
    QB edge: Fla (Big)
    Field Neutral
    Big Game Experience Fla (Big)
    Special Teams edge Fla
    TOP : Slight edge to Bama 32 to 29
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    bama 1h..................
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    Florida scores points, and scores them often. Their offense has yet to be contained, their only loss coming from a meltdown against ole miss cause of turnovers.
     
    Althoug the Bama Defense has been stifling, their  offense is nothing to write home about
     
    Alabama is undefeated, but the only win that is impressive right now is the last they played. Their win against Mississippi State doesn't even look as good, considering the beatdown Ole Miss just put on them.
     
    Even the one game that seperates them from the gators this year wasn't very pretty, their 4 point win over the rebels. Bama was cruising at halftime, but they let them come back...even giving Snead an opportunity to win the game, but he failed with 4 plays in a row at Bama's endzone.
     
    Yes, they did what Florida couldn't, beat ole miss...but it wasn't impressive . The turnover margin in that game was 3-2 in favor of Alabama.
     
    They should have put the rebels away, but much like florida they couldn't. Ole Miss found a way to put themselves in a position to win. In their game against Florida, Ole miss had 1 turnover and UF had 3.
     
    Obviously, what matters is the final score on the board, but vegas looks much deeper into the matchups.
    DEFENSE DEFENSE

    If you look at the defenses Florida has just dismantled the supposed best in the country. 3 top 10 defenses in South Carolina, Kentucky, and Florida State...total points scored? 164. Compare that to 26 allowed. You would wonder why Vegas is overlooking Alabama's defensive rank of 3rd in the nation, the answer is because the Gators have seen good defeses before and still put up big numbers. Vegas also knows that Florida's defense is sitting right there, at 7th overall in the nation, and they are about to play an offense that is less than stellar.

    In terms of offense, you have Alabama at 53rd in the nation(371ypg), and Florida at 17th(449ypg). Scoring isn't even close, with Alabama averaging 32ppg, and Florida scoring 46. This isn't comparing a big-12 team to an SEC team...its comparing both teams to exact opponents.

    One of the biggest questions In this game for me how the gators will play without Harvin, it is how well Alabama moves the ball. Saban is a good of a coach but he's  a defense guy, how will he plan to get Bama's offense moving.
     
    I do not believe it is possible to stop the gators offense right now, even without harvin, but you can slow it down! Make them earn every yard they get. CONTAIN THE ENDS!
     
    Florida's defense may be ranked 7th but they give up a lot of yards between the 20's. There are yards to be had against them, but they find a way to make teams make mistakes...bad news for Alabama considering they have John Parker Wilson at the helm, and quite frankly he's terrible.
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    Florida scores points, and scores them often. Their offense has yet to be contained, their only loss coming from a meltdown against ole miss cause of turnovers.
     
    Althoug the Bama Defense has been stifling, their  offense is nothing to write home about
     
    Alabama is undefeated, but the only win that is impressive right now is the last they played. Their win against Mississippi State doesn't even look as good, considering the beatdown Ole Miss just put on them.
     
    Even the one game that seperates them from the gators this year wasn't very pretty, their 4 point win over the rebels. Bama was cruising at halftime, but they let them come back...even giving Snead an opportunity to win the game, but he failed with 4 plays in a row at Bama's endzone.
     
    Yes, they did what Florida couldn't, beat ole miss...but it wasn't impressive . The turnover margin in that game was 3-2 in favor of Alabama.
     
    They should have put the rebels away, but much like florida they couldn't. Ole Miss found a way to put themselves in a position to win. In their game against Florida, Ole miss had 1 turnover and UF had 3.
     
    Obviously, what matters is the final score on the board, but vegas looks much deeper into the matchups.
    DEFENSE DEFENSE

    If you look at the defenses Florida has just dismantled the supposed best in the country. 3 top 10 defenses in South Carolina, Kentucky, and Florida State...total points scored? 164. Compare that to 26 allowed. You would wonder why Vegas is overlooking Alabama's defensive rank of 3rd in the nation, the answer is because the Gators have seen good defeses before and still put up big numbers. Vegas also knows that Florida's defense is sitting right there, at 7th overall in the nation, and they are about to play an offense that is less than stellar.

    In terms of offense, you have Alabama at 53rd in the nation(371ypg), and Florida at 17th(449ypg). Scoring isn't even close, with Alabama averaging 32ppg, and Florida scoring 46. This isn't comparing a big-12 team to an SEC team...its comparing both teams to exact opponents.

    One of the biggest questions In this game for me how the gators will play without Harvin, it is how well Alabama moves the ball. Saban is a good of a coach but he's  a defense guy, how will he plan to get Bama's offense moving.
     
    I do not believe it is possible to stop the gators offense right now, even without harvin, but you can slow it down! Make them earn every yard they get. CONTAIN THE ENDS!
     
    Florida's defense may be ranked 7th but they give up a lot of yards between the 20's. There are yards to be had against them, but they find a way to make teams make mistakes...bad news for Alabama considering they have John Parker Wilson at the helm, and quite frankly he's terrible.
     
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    When did JPW become terrible? He has been an above-average quarterback all season
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    When did JPW become terrible? He has been an above-average quarterback all season
     
     
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    OK so I exaggerated !
     
    If terrible, is all you found to point out from my post then I must have made a convincing argument.
     
    Here are John Boys Stats
     
     
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    If terrible, is all you found to point out from my post then I must have made a convincing argument.
     
    Here are John Boys Stats
     
     
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