yea who knows....we'll have to confer...all i know is that I stayed away from IONA earlier because I did NOT see how they met the requirements and they are getting lit up...
Guess Ragin is gone for the day ..
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Quote Originally Posted by SleepyK:
yea who knows....we'll have to confer...all i know is that I stayed away from IONA earlier because I did NOT see how they met the requirements and they are getting lit up...
mrkron - can you please explain how you are coming up with your #'s, From my numbers the play in the Troy/WKU game would have been WKU, but there was far too much support for them at 71%.
Troy Offense 78pts/game WKU Offense 68pts/game Offensive Edge - TROY -10 Troy Defense 82.9pts/game WKU Defense 69.6pts/game Defensive Edge - WKU - 13 Overall Edge - WKU should be favored by 3pts Actual Line - WKU -12.5 or -13 Difference in Lines: 9.5 or 10pts, so yes it fits based on the line However, I am seeing 71% of betting public on WKU, thus making it a NO PLAY.
From what remember earlier, detroit was not a play either because there was not a difference of atleast 8pts between the lines.
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mrkron - can you please explain how you are coming up with your #'s, From my numbers the play in the Troy/WKU game would have been WKU, but there was far too much support for them at 71%.
Troy Offense 78pts/game WKU Offense 68pts/game Offensive Edge - TROY -10 Troy Defense 82.9pts/game WKU Defense 69.6pts/game Defensive Edge - WKU - 13 Overall Edge - WKU should be favored by 3pts Actual Line - WKU -12.5 or -13 Difference in Lines: 9.5 or 10pts, so yes it fits based on the line However, I am seeing 71% of betting public on WKU, thus making it a NO PLAY.
From what remember earlier, detroit was not a play either because there was not a difference of atleast 8pts between the lines.
HEY Red.1978 you really are crazy dude. Lighten up and by the way Denver COVERS. Better stop talking your trash! Put up or shut up. Guys like you make me
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HEY Red.1978 you really are crazy dude. Lighten up and by the way Denver COVERS. Better stop talking your trash! Put up or shut up. Guys like you make me
if u take take no and den home and away stats, u will see where i get that line.
once they play a certain amount of home and away games, u use those stats. I believe u need to play 4 more games.
u are obliviously one of the morons i am talking about because u are looking at the wrong stats.
because its the blind leading the blind in here, u guys missed a winer. I DIDNT THOUGH.
YOU GUYS ARE REALLY PATHETIC.
\ Man ill tell ya I fucked up on Iona I guess I was reaching. I looked at my stats and They were not a play. I just got home so I hope they cashed but if they did its not because of thew system.
Redemption. I have never seen someone insult me when your using the same system. Let me tell you something son. You are stupid. I use OVERALL stats for NCAA. There is way to many neutral site games to be concerned with home/away. I never use home away for NCAA and never will. So shut the fuck up and be part of the winning formula instead of bashing me or us. I honestly think tho that Sleepy and upside do ti better than me. Ill admit that much. I have to much shit on my mind. They are good. Real good.
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Quote Originally Posted by Redemption1978:
if u take take no and den home and away stats, u will see where i get that line.
once they play a certain amount of home and away games, u use those stats. I believe u need to play 4 more games.
u are obliviously one of the morons i am talking about because u are looking at the wrong stats.
because its the blind leading the blind in here, u guys missed a winer. I DIDNT THOUGH.
YOU GUYS ARE REALLY PATHETIC.
\ Man ill tell ya I fucked up on Iona I guess I was reaching. I looked at my stats and They were not a play. I just got home so I hope they cashed but if they did its not because of thew system.
Redemption. I have never seen someone insult me when your using the same system. Let me tell you something son. You are stupid. I use OVERALL stats for NCAA. There is way to many neutral site games to be concerned with home/away. I never use home away for NCAA and never will. So shut the fuck up and be part of the winning formula instead of bashing me or us. I honestly think tho that Sleepy and upside do ti better than me. Ill admit that much. I have to much shit on my mind. They are good. Real good.
Good I deserved to lose Iona. This three day stretch is the worst I have done with this in three years. Im starting to reach not a good thing. Idaho is on OT
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Good I deserved to lose Iona. This three day stretch is the worst I have done with this in three years. Im starting to reach not a good thing. Idaho is on OT
I still have won only once in OT. These OT games r fucking kiling me. 4-4 yesterday I think we have been around 12-9 since the 9-3 i had on Monday and Sunday. Whatever everyone goes thru a rough patch. This is only the second shit patch ive been thru this year. Sorry guys
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I still have won only once in OT. These OT games r fucking kiling me. 4-4 yesterday I think we have been around 12-9 since the 9-3 i had on Monday and Sunday. Whatever everyone goes thru a rough patch. This is only the second shit patch ive been thru this year. Sorry guys
I still have won only once in OT. These OT games r fucking kiling me. 4-4 yesterday I think we have been around 12-9 since the 9-3 i had on Monday and Sunday. Whatever everyone goes thru a rough patch. This is only the second shit patch ive been thru this year. Sorry guys
Hey Ragin , ignore redem .. Not even worth an answer for that dude . Idaho St , was a favorite of 45 % at bettracker and I know I 'm wrong by why was that a play today ? Just not sure cause wagerline had them at 60 % favorite .. When bettracker and wagerline differ that much maybe we should void the play ? What do ya think ? Bounce back with the NBA tomorrow . Lines are up , by the way .
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Quote Originally Posted by ragingstorm:
I still have won only once in OT. These OT games r fucking kiling me. 4-4 yesterday I think we have been around 12-9 since the 9-3 i had on Monday and Sunday. Whatever everyone goes thru a rough patch. This is only the second shit patch ive been thru this year. Sorry guys
Hey Ragin , ignore redem .. Not even worth an answer for that dude . Idaho St , was a favorite of 45 % at bettracker and I know I 'm wrong by why was that a play today ? Just not sure cause wagerline had them at 60 % favorite .. When bettracker and wagerline differ that much maybe we should void the play ? What do ya think ? Bounce back with the NBA tomorrow . Lines are up , by the way .
Team A off. 68 team b offense 61 means team is favored by 7 Team A defense 70 Team b defense 74 team b is now favored by another 4
7+4 =11
say actual line is team A -3 team b would be the play. Say actual line is team A -19 then team A would be the p[lay. only if team thats favored gets LESS than 58% of the public. The lower the better in both cases. The dog should be less than 38%.
Laugh or dont believe it however I won very well for three years doing this. I decided my life is too busy this year so I shared iit. I hit around 63% last year. The NBA totals are a killer. I went at least 65% the year the cheater was there. Last year was my worst when I only hit around 57%.
Take home and away stats Offense only combine them do the opposite.
team totals. First year I have done them. I swear ive lost 6 times this year but 3 times on the bulls.
If the teram total is less than the team thery are playing is giving up on defense then take the under.
ex
The Pacers are scoring 101 last five games. They r playing the suns. They are giving up 95. The team total is 90. TAKE THE UNDER.
Doesnt happen more than 1 or 2 times a night but when it does It rarely loses. Until now probably. lol. This is my favorite system by far.
Good luck.
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Team A off. 68 team b offense 61 means team is favored by 7 Team A defense 70 Team b defense 74 team b is now favored by another 4
7+4 =11
say actual line is team A -3 team b would be the play. Say actual line is team A -19 then team A would be the p[lay. only if team thats favored gets LESS than 58% of the public. The lower the better in both cases. The dog should be less than 38%.
Laugh or dont believe it however I won very well for three years doing this. I decided my life is too busy this year so I shared iit. I hit around 63% last year. The NBA totals are a killer. I went at least 65% the year the cheater was there. Last year was my worst when I only hit around 57%.
Take home and away stats Offense only combine them do the opposite.
team totals. First year I have done them. I swear ive lost 6 times this year but 3 times on the bulls.
If the teram total is less than the team thery are playing is giving up on defense then take the under.
ex
The Pacers are scoring 101 last five games. They r playing the suns. They are giving up 95. The team total is 90. TAKE THE UNDER.
Doesnt happen more than 1 or 2 times a night but when it does It rarely loses. Until now probably. lol. This is my favorite system by far.
Hi guys I've been following the fade system since Raging made light of it couple of weeks ago. And I have to agree with Redemp sort of in that Den should have been a play over NO. I know some of you don't use the home/away stats but by using them in this game NO should have been fav by 10 but the line moved from -4. to -2.5. the public was all over NO @ 73*. so the play be Den+2.5. and Den covers by .5.
although I don't agree in calling people morons or stupid because they don't pic the same as you. it's their choice so be it. Ragin keep up the good work.
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Hi guys I've been following the fade system since Raging made light of it couple of weeks ago. And I have to agree with Redemp sort of in that Den should have been a play over NO. I know some of you don't use the home/away stats but by using them in this game NO should have been fav by 10 but the line moved from -4. to -2.5. the public was all over NO @ 73*. so the play be Den+2.5. and Den covers by .5.
although I don't agree in calling people morons or stupid because they don't pic the same as you. it's their choice so be it. Ragin keep up the good work.
looking into tomorrow USC -2.5 @ Ore overall stats should favor USC by 12 the play will be Oregon if the public jumps all over USC which IMO they will.
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looking into tomorrow USC -2.5 @ Ore overall stats should favor USC by 12 the play will be Oregon if the public jumps all over USC which IMO they will.
mrkron - can you please explain how you are coming up with your #'s, From my numbers the play in the Troy/WKU game would have been WKU, but there was far too much support for them at 71%.
Troy Offense 78pts/game WKU Offense 68pts/game Offensive Edge - TROY -10 Troy Defense 82.9pts/game WKU Defense 69.6pts/game Defensive Edge - WKU - 13 Overall Edge - WKU should be favored by 3pts Actual Line - WKU -12.5 or -13 Difference in Lines: 9.5 or 10pts, so yes it fits based on the line However, I am seeing 71% of betting public on WKU, thus making it a NO PLAY.
From what remember earlier, detroit was not a play either because there was not a difference of atleast 8pts between the lines.
I had Troy as + 4 or WKU -4. I guess what confuses me is if the spread hold at -13 and 71% are on WKU then they are a no play. But 29% are on Troy and they are also off by 9 Then why don't they become the play?
I checked my stats and differences were correct. I was just giving out info on differences and %. Did not play all. Just helping out with stats. Thanks for all your help.
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Quote Originally Posted by SleepyK:
mrkron - can you please explain how you are coming up with your #'s, From my numbers the play in the Troy/WKU game would have been WKU, but there was far too much support for them at 71%.
Troy Offense 78pts/game WKU Offense 68pts/game Offensive Edge - TROY -10 Troy Defense 82.9pts/game WKU Defense 69.6pts/game Defensive Edge - WKU - 13 Overall Edge - WKU should be favored by 3pts Actual Line - WKU -12.5 or -13 Difference in Lines: 9.5 or 10pts, so yes it fits based on the line However, I am seeing 71% of betting public on WKU, thus making it a NO PLAY.
From what remember earlier, detroit was not a play either because there was not a difference of atleast 8pts between the lines.
I had Troy as + 4 or WKU -4. I guess what confuses me is if the spread hold at -13 and 71% are on WKU then they are a no play. But 29% are on Troy and they are also off by 9 Then why don't they become the play?
I checked my stats and differences were correct. I was just giving out info on differences and %. Did not play all. Just helping out with stats. Thanks for all your help.
Capped games for tomorrow. No plays just info. No % yet.
Game Math Diff Line Diff in
line
USC vs Oregon USC -13 USC -2.5 10.5 S. Carolina vs Baylor Baylor -2 Baylor -9 7 Syracuse vs. S. Florida Syr -17 Syr -8.5 8.5 Pacific vs. CS North Pac -1 CSN -5.5 6.5 UC Santa Barb vs LBS UCSB -4 LBS -3.5 7.5 St. Peters vs. Marist pick Mar -8.5 8.5 App St. vs. Texas Tex -9 Tex -24 15 Dayton vs. Toledo Dayton -22 Day -9 13
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Capped games for tomorrow. No plays just info. No % yet.
Game Math Diff Line Diff in
line
USC vs Oregon USC -13 USC -2.5 10.5 S. Carolina vs Baylor Baylor -2 Baylor -9 7 Syracuse vs. S. Florida Syr -17 Syr -8.5 8.5 Pacific vs. CS North Pac -1 CSN -5.5 6.5 UC Santa Barb vs LBS UCSB -4 LBS -3.5 7.5 St. Peters vs. Marist pick Mar -8.5 8.5 App St. vs. Texas Tex -9 Tex -24 15 Dayton vs. Toledo Dayton -22 Day -9 13
Hey Redeption - You come across like a woman that was scorned by Raging. What's the true story behind all this hatred you have. Just by reading your posts, you don't appear to be the type of person whose looking to help out their fellow bettor. Were you looking for some passion and he told you to go f*ck off? Seriously now, give it a rest. We all get it, you don't agree with his "system". You're allowed to have your opinion. We know what it is and respect it. We are capable of forming our own ideas and opinions as well. Now do us all a favor and move on.
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Hey Redeption - You come across like a woman that was scorned by Raging. What's the true story behind all this hatred you have. Just by reading your posts, you don't appear to be the type of person whose looking to help out their fellow bettor. Were you looking for some passion and he told you to go f*ck off? Seriously now, give it a rest. We all get it, you don't agree with his "system". You're allowed to have your opinion. We know what it is and respect it. We are capable of forming our own ideas and opinions as well. Now do us all a favor and move on.
OFF THE SYSTEM, PACIFIC SHOULD BE -1, THE LINE IS CS NORTH -5.5, I KNOW IT'S NOT 8 POINTS, BUT WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN THIS HAPPENS? KIND OF LIKE IDAHO ST YESTERDAY?
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SYSTEM LEANS W/O PUBLIC % YET
DAYTON SHOULD BE -21 ACTUAL IS -3 DIFF (18)
MARIST -9 SHOULD BE A PK
TEXAS -24 SHOULD BE -9
OFF THE SYSTEM, PACIFIC SHOULD BE -1, THE LINE IS CS NORTH -5.5, I KNOW IT'S NOT 8 POINTS, BUT WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN THIS HAPPENS? KIND OF LIKE IDAHO ST YESTERDAY?
so far cs north is the only team that comes close enough to meet the system, they are -6 and should be getting +1.8. thats a 7.8 turnaround. with the % at 53 on wagerline and 43 on bettracker
i've noticed that if the number is not over the qualified 8
and the % are not meeting the same or close on both wager and bettracker the game fails.
this is technically not a play but very close, also the % must open below the qualified %. not open above the % and get bet down
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so far cs north is the only team that comes close enough to meet the system, they are -6 and should be getting +1.8. thats a 7.8 turnaround. with the % at 53 on wagerline and 43 on bettracker
i've noticed that if the number is not over the qualified 8
and the % are not meeting the same or close on both wager and bettracker the game fails.
this is technically not a play but very close, also the % must open below the qualified %. not open above the % and get bet down
I know Port doesn't fit, but these are the ones I could see so far. Please check to see if I'm on the same page. Due to these #'s, the leans should be:
ORG, SOUTH CAR, TOLEDO, SOUTH FLA, SAN DIEGO, ST PETERS,
THE OTHER LINE AREN'T @ THE % OR DIFFERENCE YET, AM I CORRECT?
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TEAM OPEN LINE SYSTEM LINE PUBLIC
USC -2.5 -13 76% USC
BAYLOR -9 -2 61% BAY
DAYTON -9.5 -22 70% DAY
CUSE -8 -17 92% CUS
PACIFIC +5.5 -1 57% PAC
MARSHALL +6.5 -3 42% MAR
MARIST -9 PK 67% MAR
TEXAS -23 -9 84% TEX
PORT ST -15 -20 67% PORT
I know Port doesn't fit, but these are the ones I could see so far. Please check to see if I'm on the same page. Due to these #'s, the leans should be:
ORG, SOUTH CAR, TOLEDO, SOUTH FLA, SAN DIEGO, ST PETERS,
THE OTHER LINE AREN'T @ THE % OR DIFFERENCE YET, AM I CORRECT?
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