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    IONA vs. ST. PETER's: Yes, it's another cap of an IONA game in the MAAC but this is not Monmouth.

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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2017 - 3:00 PM ET #1

    2017 Record: 4-10


    Small play to test the waters as I seek out a .500 record.

    The pick:

    IONA +3 over St. Peter's

    Here's how much fear IONA has of the #2 team in the conference:

    None.

    Why? They beat them twice this year:

    79-65 at home Win

    69-66 in OT away Win

    1. Line value

    This game will be at a neutral location. And the line is St. Peter's -3. And I'm wondering why given Iona is going for the sweep here. Because -3 at a neutral site translates to Iona +6/+6.5 at St. Peter's. Which to me is ridiculous given how Iona dominated them by 14 one game and St. Peter's couldn't close them out in another.

    So there is line value here and I'll take every point.

    2. Defending champs and/or 'defending' runner ups

    Something has to be said about IONA and the MAAC tournament. The rosters have turnover year after year but under Tim Cluess, their HC, Iona has appeared in the finals in the following:

    2013 Won the MAAC Tournament over Manhattan

    2014 Runner up in the MAAC Tournament to Manhattan

    2015 Runner up in the MAAC Tournament to Manhattan

    2016 Won the MAAC Tournament over Monmouth

    For all the talk about Monmouth and the way they've steamrolled this conference the past two years in the regular season, they've never won the conference tournament. Iona has. Twice. Under Cluess, who has a 68% winning percentage at IONA, he and the Gaels have been a guarantee in the finals of this tournament.

    St. Peter's won 6 years ago in the finals....against Iona. They've won twice in their history but haven't been significant factors in the past half decade like IONA has.

    Translation: The Gaels come to play in this tournament under Cluess regardless of the roster permutation.

    3. The win over Rider

    This was a confidence building win. Rider, having beaten them by 18 just 4 games ago, got beaten here by 18 themselves. What really impressed me was the play of Schadrac Cashmir, who had 22 in the win and he averages 7P and 1assist. If he can give you 10-12-14, you are going to win because IONA has too many scorers in other places.

    4. St. Peter's adjustments

    They've seen ONE team since February 26th: Canisius a somewhat respectable team in the MAAC but one that is not on IONA's level in the top 3 of Monmouth St. Peter's and Iona. They won two squeakers, 72-65 and 61-58.


    It's very hard to adjust to Iona's run up-tempo offense after seeing only Canisius in since they played bottom-feeder Niagra 10 days ago.

    Iona is the ONE team St. Peter's has not beaten this year so if I'm gauging confidence, this is the one team they didn't want to see after Monmouth. They even beat Monmouth 71-61 on 1/2/17.


    All in all, this is Iona's tournament to hand over the reigns to given Manhattan is not longer a threat.

    And hand it over meekly is not something I see happening, particularly against a team they have confidence against. If this line is -3 AT St. Peter's with a raucous home crowd, perhaps I cap this game differently but on a neutral court Iona feels comfortable on? The heat is on St. Peter's here.

    Even with 3, St. Peter's must win by 4 so we can cover in a squeaker in necessary. I'll take the points and Iona here hoping they have laser like focus to get one more shot at Monmouth in the finals.

     


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    2017 Record: 4-10


    Small play to test the waters as I seek out a .500 record.

    The pick:

    IONA +3 over St. Peter's

    Here's how much fear IONA has of the #2 team in the conference:

    None.

    Why? They beat them twice this year:

    79-65 at home Win

    69-66 in OT away Win

    1. Line value

    This game will be at a neutral location. And the line is St. Peter's -3. And I'm wondering why given Iona is going for the sweep here. Because -3 at a neutral site translates to Iona +6/+6.5 at St. Peter's. Which to me is ridiculous given how Iona dominated them by 14 one game and St. Peter's couldn't close them out in another.

    So there is line value here and I'll take every point.

    2. Defending champs and/or 'defending' runner ups

    Something has to be said about IONA and the MAAC tournament. The rosters have turnover year after year but under Tim Cluess, their HC, Iona has appeared in the finals in the following:

    2013 Won the MAAC Tournament over Manhattan

    2014 Runner up in the MAAC Tournament to Manhattan

    2015 Runner up in the MAAC Tournament to Manhattan

    2016 Won the MAAC Tournament over Monmouth

    For all the talk about Monmouth and the way they've steamrolled this conference the past two years in the regular season, they've never won the conference tournament. Iona has. Twice. Under Cluess, who has a 68% winning percentage at IONA, he and the Gaels have been a guarantee in the finals of this tournament.

    St. Peter's won 6 years ago in the finals....against Iona. They've won twice in their history but haven't been significant factors in the past half decade like IONA has.

    Translation: The Gaels come to play in this tournament under Cluess regardless of the roster permutation.

    3. The win over Rider

    This was a confidence building win. Rider, having beaten them by 18 just 4 games ago, got beaten here by 18 themselves. What really impressed me was the play of Schadrac Cashmir, who had 22 in the win and he averages 7P and 1assist. If he can give you 10-12-14, you are going to win because IONA has too many scorers in other places.

    4. St. Peter's adjustments

    They've seen ONE team since February 26th: Canisius a somewhat respectable team in the MAAC but one that is not on IONA's level in the top 3 of Monmouth St. Peter's and Iona. They won two squeakers, 72-65 and 61-58.


    It's very hard to adjust to Iona's run up-tempo offense after seeing only Canisius in since they played bottom-feeder Niagra 10 days ago.

    Iona is the ONE team St. Peter's has not beaten this year so if I'm gauging confidence, this is the one team they didn't want to see after Monmouth. They even beat Monmouth 71-61 on 1/2/17.


    All in all, this is Iona's tournament to hand over the reigns to given Manhattan is not longer a threat.

    And hand it over meekly is not something I see happening, particularly against a team they have confidence against. If this line is -3 AT St. Peter's with a raucous home crowd, perhaps I cap this game differently but on a neutral court Iona feels comfortable on? The heat is on St. Peter's here.

    Even with 3, St. Peter's must win by 4 so we can cover in a squeaker in necessary. I'll take the points and Iona here hoping they have laser like focus to get one more shot at Monmouth in the finals.

     


     
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    Game is at 7PM tonight EST

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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2017 - 3:17 PM ET #3

    I should also mention St. Peter's is on an 8 game winning streak here which I seek out to fade.
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    Fade fade fade. St. Peter's is the play. St. Peter's and under. 
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    GL Scal buddy. 

    I think you may have something here. 
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    I think you may have something here. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2017 - 3:21 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Intriguing:

    Fade fade fade. St. Peter's is the play. St. Peter's and under. 


    Tell everyone WHY and you may have an argument.


    Appreciate it Stee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intriguing:

    Fade fade fade. St. Peter's is the play. St. Peter's and under. 


    Tell everyone WHY and you may have an argument.


    Appreciate it Stee

     
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    Isn't there some old adage about how difficult it is to beat a comparable team 3 straight times in the same season? Boston U learned that lesson an hour ago losing to Lehigh after beating them both times in the regular season. Not to mention betting against a team on an 8 game win streak is never good judgement. I hope you win. 
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    Thanks for posting Scal.
    best of luck sir.
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    GL Scal
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    BOL SCAL 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    Isn't there some old adage about how difficult it is to beat a comparable team 3 straight times in the same season? Boston U learned that lesson an hour ago losing to Lehigh after beating them both times in the regular season. Not to mention betting against a team on an 8 game win streak is never good judgement. I hope you win. 

    There certainly is. And there also comes a time where you have to say the revenge, double-revenge spots are simply not effective as the other team just has your number. Teams get swept in the NBA all the time. The Nets did it to the Knicks with Jason Kidd for YEARS where they went 20-2 over 22 against the NYK. You could have the twelve-ipple revenge spot in that series and still lost if you took the Knicks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    Isn't there some old adage about how difficult it is to beat a comparable team 3 straight times in the same season? Boston U learned that lesson an hour ago losing to Lehigh after beating them both times in the regular season. Not to mention betting against a team on an 8 game win streak is never good judgement. I hope you win. 

    There certainly is. And there also comes a time where you have to say the revenge, double-revenge spots are simply not effective as the other team just has your number. Teams get swept in the NBA all the time. The Nets did it to the Knicks with Jason Kidd for YEARS where they went 20-2 over 22 against the NYK. You could have the twelve-ipple revenge spot in that series and still lost if you took the Knicks.


     
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    I'm in as always. Thanks for the time. 
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    Hey Scal! I always love your writeups and tail you 99% of the time... I was already on Iona and love them even more seeing that you agree.. I was thinking of doing a 3 team 8 point teaser.. Iona +11... for the second game: what has better value in your opinion.. Monmouth from -6.5 to +1.5 or Siena from +6.5 to +14.5... one of my guys loves Siena +6.5 but me living 10 minutes from Monmouth, it's hard for me to pull the trigger. Especially knowing Monmouth wants redemption after losing in the finals to Iona last season!
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    Hey Scal! I always love your writeups and tail you 99% of the time... I was already on Iona and love them even more seeing that you agree.. I was thinking of doing a 3 team 8 point teaser.. Iona +11... for the second game: what has better value in your opinion.. Monmouth from -6.5 to +1.5 or Siena from +6.5 to +14.5... one of my guys loves Siena +6.5 but me living 10 minutes from Monmouth, it's hard for me to pull the trigger. Especially knowing Monmouth wants redemption after losing in the finals to Iona last season!
     
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    Eages - if you want to tease, teasing through zero isn't advisable because you lose points. BUT I think Monmouth is locked in. Nothing less than a MAAC tournament win will suffice. While I hate the winning streak, Siena is not as strong as last year (they were always a threat last year) while Monmouth is a better team than last year. So I would go with Monmouth over Siena and you only need the outright win which you should get. I was actually surprise that line is only 6.5.


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    Eages - if you want to tease, teasing through zero isn't advisable because you lose points. BUT I think Monmouth is locked in. Nothing less than a MAAC tournament win will suffice. While I hate the winning streak, Siena is not as strong as last year (they were always a threat last year) while Monmouth is a better team than last year. So I would go with Monmouth over Siena and you only need the outright win which you should get. I was actually surprise that line is only 6.5.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    T6. Always a pleasure 

    Venez under


    Eages - if you want to tease, teasing through zero isn't advisable because you lose points. BUT I think Monmouth is locked in. Nothing less than a MAAC tournament win will suffice. While I hate the winning streak, Siena is not as strong as last year (they were always a threat last year) while Monmouth is a better team than last year. So I would go with Monmouth over Siena and you only need the outright win which you should get. I was actually surprise that line is only 6.5.



    Thanks scal! I agree.. went with sienna +15 once line moved up to 7, but still like Monmouth to win. Excited to see a Monmouth Iona rematch! GL
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    T6. Always a pleasure 

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    Eages - if you want to tease, teasing through zero isn't advisable because you lose points. BUT I think Monmouth is locked in. Nothing less than a MAAC tournament win will suffice. While I hate the winning streak, Siena is not as strong as last year (they were always a threat last year) while Monmouth is a better team than last year. So I would go with Monmouth over Siena and you only need the outright win which you should get. I was actually surprise that line is only 6.5.



    Thanks scal! I agree.. went with sienna +15 once line moved up to 7, but still like Monmouth to win. Excited to see a Monmouth Iona rematch! GL
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2017 - 5:12 PM ET #17

    On it with you. Hoping Monmouth and Iona get the wins in their respective games to set up round 3.  Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on that one.
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    On it with you. Hoping Monmouth and Iona get the wins in their respective games to set up round 3.  Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on that one.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2017 - 5:13 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Scal, you don't quit. Even when you swear that you will.

    Hear Hear, he only said he would chill out until he felt more confident. The best way to regain confidence is to stop betting but still handicap and see what the results are without financial interest in the game. As soon as the tide turns, you start playing with money again. This is the opposite of chasing bad losses. I'm not sure where Scal is right now, but we'll see by 10PM. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Scal, you don't quit. Even when you swear that you will.

    Hear Hear, he only said he would chill out until he felt more confident. The best way to regain confidence is to stop betting but still handicap and see what the results are without financial interest in the game. As soon as the tide turns, you start playing with money again. This is the opposite of chasing bad losses. I'm not sure where Scal is right now, but we'll see by 10PM. 
     
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    As always, hugh sends his best wishes and support from the Box, alas, he's still unable to join us in person, but rest assured, he's gnashing teeth at your view count and you're always present in his dreams.

    He asked me to let you know, his hom0-erotic fixation on you has only grown stronger during his absence. 
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    As always, hugh sends his best wishes and support from the Box, alas, he's still unable to join us in person, but rest assured, he's gnashing teeth at your view count and you're always present in his dreams.

    He asked me to let you know, his hom0-erotic fixation on you has only grown stronger during his absence. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2017 - 5:44 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:


    Hear Hear, he only said he would chill out until he felt more confident. The best way to regain confidence is to stop betting but still handicap and see what the results are without financial interest in the game. As soon as the tide turns, you start playing with money again. This is the opposite of chasing bad losses. I'm not sure where Scal is right now, but we'll see by 10PM. 

    Getty shut up. Always the antagonist. You can't win a single game on this site without maggots rushing the corpse.

    I put my whole roll on the line and won. On a team on a 15 game losing streak and they crushed an opponent fighting for their life for a tournament bid which was light years away from what LSU was playing for. That's not a quality cap? Had a Nets lean in that thread a team who lost 16 in a row. They beat the kings outright 109-100. Was asked about a Monmouth tease in this thread. They are currently bombing Siena. Now I come on and have a detailed write up you can't find anywhere on the web on this game, a write you can freely fade or tail or build on and after ALL THAT, here's what you choose to say "I don't know what Scal is right now".

    Screw you and thanks for adding nothing to the cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:


    Hear Hear, he only said he would chill out until he felt more confident. The best way to regain confidence is to stop betting but still handicap and see what the results are without financial interest in the game. As soon as the tide turns, you start playing with money again. This is the opposite of chasing bad losses. I'm not sure where Scal is right now, but we'll see by 10PM. 

    Getty shut up. Always the antagonist. You can't win a single game on this site without maggots rushing the corpse.

    I put my whole roll on the line and won. On a team on a 15 game losing streak and they crushed an opponent fighting for their life for a tournament bid which was light years away from what LSU was playing for. That's not a quality cap? Had a Nets lean in that thread a team who lost 16 in a row. They beat the kings outright 109-100. Was asked about a Monmouth tease in this thread. They are currently bombing Siena. Now I come on and have a detailed write up you can't find anywhere on the web on this game, a write you can freely fade or tail or build on and after ALL THAT, here's what you choose to say "I don't know what Scal is right now".

    Screw you and thanks for adding nothing to the cap.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2017 - 5:52 PM ET #21

    Love iona  in this spot  lets get it
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    Love iona  in this spot  lets get it
     
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    Hey this guy announcing the Boston Celtics game is named Scalabrine. Are you this guy announcing the game?
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    Hey this guy announcing the Boston Celtics game is named Scalabrine. Are you this guy announcing the game?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2017 - 6:12 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganda:

    As always, hugh sends his best wishes and support from the Box, alas, he's still unable to join us in person, but rest assured, he's gnashing teeth at your view count and you're always present in his dreams.

    He asked me to let you know, his hom0-erotic fixation on you has only grown stronger during his absence. 
    god help us all when it comes to that guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganda:

    As always, hugh sends his best wishes and support from the Box, alas, he's still unable to join us in person, but rest assured, he's gnashing teeth at your view count and you're always present in his dreams.

    He asked me to let you know, his hom0-erotic fixation on you has only grown stronger during his absence. 
    god help us all when it comes to that guy
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2017 - 6:46 PM ET #24

    I love St Petes here. Not being a contrarian. I just lurk. To be honest....usually to fade the board. I have respect for your write ups. Well thought out. Obviously time consuming. Keep doing what you do. Best of luck.
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    I love St Petes here. Not being a contrarian. I just lurk. To be honest....usually to fade the board. I have respect for your write ups. Well thought out. Obviously time consuming. Keep doing what you do. Best of luck.
     
     
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    thanks bud
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