hey Counting the deck Thank You for taking the time and sharing This very interesting System of yours. These type of systems one cannot learn from books but rather YEARS and YEARS OF experience Here is to someone contributing for the very existance of this site
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hey Counting the deck Thank You for taking the time and sharing This very interesting System of yours. These type of systems one cannot learn from books but rather YEARS and YEARS OF experience Here is to someone contributing for the very existance of this site
Here are the advantage games for today. Don't worry as only as only a few start at 7:00pm. Please make sure on the Valparaiso game to lay only 1.5, as 2 is a very key number. At two it is a no play for me, and will be graded as a play at -1.5. Happy Presidents Day everyone.
Todays slight to medium advantage plays.
Samford Over 137.5 L Western Carolina Over 152 L Prairie View - 2.5 W Prairie View Over 135 L Kent State +1.5 W Kent State Over 140.5 W Valparaiso -1.5 ? Valparaiso Over 137 ? Oklahoma State +17 ? Oklahoma State Under 144.5 ? Morgan State Under 141 ?
With you on the Morgan and Kansas unders!!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by countingthedeck:
Here are the advantage games for today. Don't worry as only as only a few start at 7:00pm. Please make sure on the Valparaiso game to lay only 1.5, as 2 is a very key number. At two it is a no play for me, and will be graded as a play at -1.5. Happy Presidents Day everyone.
Todays slight to medium advantage plays.
Samford Over 137.5 L Western Carolina Over 152 L Prairie View - 2.5 W Prairie View Over 135 L Kent State +1.5 W Kent State Over 140.5 W Valparaiso -1.5 ? Valparaiso Over 137 ? Oklahoma State +17 ? Oklahoma State Under 144.5 ? Morgan State Under 141 ?
setting your own lines/numbers identifies discrepancies and depending on personal accuracy/ability of teams/games/matchups can be used to your advantage for certain, more so, your poker analogy is key, just like being dealt and hand, every card, every game, every line... but best advice whether pro, old pro, amatuer, winner, loser, passing is best practice, over time...
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setting your own lines/numbers identifies discrepancies and depending on personal accuracy/ability of teams/games/matchups can be used to your advantage for certain, more so, your poker analogy is key, just like being dealt and hand, every card, every game, every line... but best advice whether pro, old pro, amatuer, winner, loser, passing is best practice, over time...
Samford Over 137.5 Western Carolina Over 152 Prairie View - 2.5 Prairie View Over 135 Kent State +1.5 Kent State Over 140.5 Valparaiso -1.5 Valparaiso Over 137 Oklahoma State +17 Oklahoma State Under 144.5 Morgan State Under 141
Samford Over 137.5 Western Carolina Over 152 Prairie View - 2.5 Prairie View Over 135 Kent State +1.5 Kent State Over 140.5 Valparaiso -1.5 Valparaiso Over 137 Oklahoma State +17 Oklahoma State Under 144.5 Morgan State Under 141
Went 5-6 last night and definitely wont count the early Central Florida afternoon game side or total. I am posting bit early for a few reasons, one I might be one the run and want to give them to you before the line moves for anyone who can bet overnights.
In the case of Houston, the line is actually moving the wrong way towards the home team, but at +11.5 points I am taking it now. It may actually move to 12 or more by gametime, but at this edge I am satisfied and not willing to take 11 or less should there be a reversal of line moves.
Here are the advantage plays, both slight and medium for tomorrow.
LaSalle +14.5
Wake Forrest +14
Illinois +10.5
South Carolina +1.5
Iowa State +17.5
Houston +11.5
I will be back for Wednesday early or late tomorrow, please feel free to check back as often as you like.
Yours truly,
Counting the Deck
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Went 5-6 last night and definitely wont count the early Central Florida afternoon game side or total. I am posting bit early for a few reasons, one I might be one the run and want to give them to you before the line moves for anyone who can bet overnights.
In the case of Houston, the line is actually moving the wrong way towards the home team, but at +11.5 points I am taking it now. It may actually move to 12 or more by gametime, but at this edge I am satisfied and not willing to take 11 or less should there be a reversal of line moves.
Here are the advantage plays, both slight and medium for tomorrow.
LaSalle +14.5
Wake Forrest +14
Illinois +10.5
South Carolina +1.5
Iowa State +17.5
Houston +11.5
I will be back for Wednesday early or late tomorrow, please feel free to check back as often as you like.
Went 5-6 last night and definitely wont count the early Central Florida afternoon game side or total. I am posting bit early for a few reasons, one I might be one the run and want to give them to you before the line moves for anyone who can bet overnights.
In the case of Houston, the line is actually moving the wrong way towards the home team, but at +11.5 points I am taking it now. It may actually move to 12 or more by gametime, but at this edge I am satisfied and not willing to take 11 or less should there be a reversal of line moves.
Here are the advantage plays, both slight and medium for tomorrow.
LaSalle +14.5
Wake Forrest +14
Illinois +10.5
South Carolina +1.5
Iowa State +17.5
Houston +11.5
I will be back for Wednesday early or late tomorrow, please feel free to check back as often as you like.
Yours truly,
Counting the Deck
....hey you're human.....I only took Valpo and got smacked....GO FOR ANOTHER WINNING DAY ON TUESDAY....thanks for the predictions COUNT
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Quote Originally Posted by countingthedeck:
Went 5-6 last night and definitely wont count the early Central Florida afternoon game side or total. I am posting bit early for a few reasons, one I might be one the run and want to give them to you before the line moves for anyone who can bet overnights.
In the case of Houston, the line is actually moving the wrong way towards the home team, but at +11.5 points I am taking it now. It may actually move to 12 or more by gametime, but at this edge I am satisfied and not willing to take 11 or less should there be a reversal of line moves.
Here are the advantage plays, both slight and medium for tomorrow.
LaSalle +14.5
Wake Forrest +14
Illinois +10.5
South Carolina +1.5
Iowa State +17.5
Houston +11.5
I will be back for Wednesday early or late tomorrow, please feel free to check back as often as you like.
Yours truly,
Counting the Deck
....hey you're human.....I only took Valpo and got smacked....GO FOR ANOTHER WINNING DAY ON TUESDAY....thanks for the predictions COUNT
Here up posted early are the advantage plays for Wednesday, for the
early bird bettors who want to get a headstart and beat the line
moves.. A prime example of timing the line, or in our case beating the
line move, was yesterday as the Wake Forrest and Houston game landed
exactly on 14 and 11. Posting the night before, on those plays I did
mention my preference on taking 11.5 and passing on 11 specifically on
the Houston game. The worst anyone could have done was push both games,
unfortunately Illinois, LaSalle, Iowa State and the Iowa State games
total were losers.
Had you gotten 11.5 on the Houston game, you went 2-4
rather than 1 win and 4 losses. That is a huge swing in what amounts to
be a half point.They are not kidding when they say its a fine line
between success and failure. In what amounts to be a disappointing last
two days, fellow bettors dropped one game Monday night plus juice, and
2 games plus juice Tuesday night. But with due diligence and getting
the best number early I think most got the 11.5 in the Houston game. If
you did not get 11.5, just say so and i'll grade it as a loss.
Basically we gave back the last two days what we
won on Sunday, but we got 4 more days to go ending with Saturday, all
which starts tonight.
Here are the games with a slight advantage.
Miami Ohio +8
Tulsa +4
Texas Tech +1.5
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Here up posted early are the advantage plays for Wednesday, for the
early bird bettors who want to get a headstart and beat the line
moves.. A prime example of timing the line, or in our case beating the
line move, was yesterday as the Wake Forrest and Houston game landed
exactly on 14 and 11. Posting the night before, on those plays I did
mention my preference on taking 11.5 and passing on 11 specifically on
the Houston game. The worst anyone could have done was push both games,
unfortunately Illinois, LaSalle, Iowa State and the Iowa State games
total were losers.
Had you gotten 11.5 on the Houston game, you went 2-4
rather than 1 win and 4 losses. That is a huge swing in what amounts to
be a half point.They are not kidding when they say its a fine line
between success and failure. In what amounts to be a disappointing last
two days, fellow bettors dropped one game Monday night plus juice, and
2 games plus juice Tuesday night. But with due diligence and getting
the best number early I think most got the 11.5 in the Houston game. If
you did not get 11.5, just say so and i'll grade it as a loss.
Basically we gave back the last two days what we
won on Sunday, but we got 4 more days to go ending with Saturday, all
which starts tonight.
Here is how I am betting this game. At +5 i am
betting 1.5 Units, should this line move to +6 I am adding a half unit
more making it a 2 unit bet. The rest of the slight and medium size
advantage plays are bet at 1 unit apiece. In the case of North Carolina
State, I expect the line to drop, so in reality this would be a 1.5
unit play, but should it move in the other direction, I will increase
my bet as the advantage increases likewise. This is the most that I bet
with an advantage, though in rare occasion maybe 5-7 times a year I
might bet 2.5 units on a play.
The line for Colorado State and Byu is not out yet,
but I am expecting in the vicinity of 14-17 points for the visitor and
at those line parameters they are a play. ( I'll update one more time
once the line is out for this game)
If you care to check back early Thursday
morning for an update, i may be playing tomorrow, but definitely will
be back Friday for Saturdays huge schedule. Last week a great weekend,
a huge Saturday and topping it off with a nice Sunday also. Looking
forward
to all hell breaking loose again, but first starting out with tonight, best of luck to all and may all your bets win.
Yours truly,
Counting The Deck
ps..feel free to read my blog , I'll be updating that very soon, with my thoughts and tips on advantage play and winning angles.
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Here are the games with a medium size advantage
Rice +5
Fordham +12.5
Air Force +1.5
Depaul +14.5
Boston College -3
Arkansas +7
Colorado State
Auburn +17.5
Here is one team with a large size advantage.
NC State +5
Here is how I am betting this game. At +5 i am
betting 1.5 Units, should this line move to +6 I am adding a half unit
more making it a 2 unit bet. The rest of the slight and medium size
advantage plays are bet at 1 unit apiece. In the case of North Carolina
State, I expect the line to drop, so in reality this would be a 1.5
unit play, but should it move in the other direction, I will increase
my bet as the advantage increases likewise. This is the most that I bet
with an advantage, though in rare occasion maybe 5-7 times a year I
might bet 2.5 units on a play.
The line for Colorado State and Byu is not out yet,
but I am expecting in the vicinity of 14-17 points for the visitor and
at those line parameters they are a play. ( I'll update one more time
once the line is out for this game)
If you care to check back early Thursday
morning for an update, i may be playing tomorrow, but definitely will
be back Friday for Saturdays huge schedule. Last week a great weekend,
a huge Saturday and topping it off with a nice Sunday also. Looking
forward
to all hell breaking loose again, but first starting out with tonight, best of luck to all and may all your bets win.
Yours truly,
Counting The Deck
ps..feel free to read my blog , I'll be updating that very soon, with my thoughts and tips on advantage play and winning angles.
Good luck to you. I hope you win all of your plays except for Depaul as I have the Johnnies at -13.5 I guess in this case, I would be fine with St. Johns winning by 14 so that we both win.
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Good luck to you. I hope you win all of your plays except for Depaul as I have the Johnnies at -13.5 I guess in this case, I would be fine with St. Johns winning by 14 so that we both win.
Earlier in the post Colorado State was mentioned with no line, currently you can find them at +13.5 and at that line it is a game with a medium size advantage. I will most likely will skip Thursday and Friday and be back with Saturday 30 minutes before the first tip time then. But check back if you like I might post a few in between then.
Gl to all
CTD
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Thanks Tiger18 and Aggie Acountant,
Earlier in the post Colorado State was mentioned with no line, currently you can find them at +13.5 and at that line it is a game with a medium size advantage. I will most likely will skip Thursday and Friday and be back with Saturday 30 minutes before the first tip time then. But check back if you like I might post a few in between then.
i hate to say it but whatever happen to those "projected line" "your line" "vegas line" stuff ctd!?
why are you posting plays that you think have slight,medium large advantages?
if you truly meant all that you said when you were posting on shirley's threads then show us those lines and let us analyze it our own and play what we think is the best play.im beginning to think that you,like shirley will disappear after todays 3-9 result!!!
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i hate to say it but whatever happen to those "projected line" "your line" "vegas line" stuff ctd!?
why are you posting plays that you think have slight,medium large advantages?
if you truly meant all that you said when you were posting on shirley's threads then show us those lines and let us analyze it our own and play what we think is the best play.im beginning to think that you,like shirley will disappear after todays 3-9 result!!!
i hate to say it but whatever happen to those "projected line" "your line" "vegas line" stuff ctd!?
why are you posting plays that you think have slight,medium large advantages?
if you truly meant all that you said when you were posting on shirley's threads then show us those lines and let us analyze it our own and play what we think is the best play.im beginning to think that you,like shirley will disappear after todays 3-9 result!!!
read previous posts, he mentioned that people were complaining that it was too hard to read and too time consuming. he said he simplified it this new method vs posting 3 sets of numbers
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Quote Originally Posted by dgnerate:
i hate to say it but whatever happen to those "projected line" "your line" "vegas line" stuff ctd!?
why are you posting plays that you think have slight,medium large advantages?
if you truly meant all that you said when you were posting on shirley's threads then show us those lines and let us analyze it our own and play what we think is the best play.im beginning to think that you,like shirley will disappear after todays 3-9 result!!!
read previous posts, he mentioned that people were complaining that it was too hard to read and too time consuming. he said he simplified it this new method vs posting 3 sets of numbers
I do enjoy some intellectual banter at times,a time when thoughts are
exchanged and criticisms are heard, evaluated discussed solved or
dismissed.The origination of the word forum is 'foris" from the
Latin language. Back in ancient Rome, citizens gathered in an open air
town square to discuss politics, current events, concerns and the
occasional vote. It was democracy at its earliest, not quite what we
have now, but something of which future democracies and nations that
chose this way of living modeled themselves after. Everyone having a
chance to voice their opinion, in open air, in the town square, or
"forum," for all to see without punishment or retaliation. Or so the
theory goes.Maybe ridicule, but hey whats the harm? You are free to say
what you want and the same for myself and the next person.
In my Wednesday post I did mention that I would take Thursday and
Friday off, then return for Saturday. Regardless the outcome of any
games, whether going 3-8 or 8-3 or 12-0 or 0-12. It was clearly stated.
I do not need to bet everyday like I used to years ago, for me it is a
way to keep my mind sharp.The monetary goals from this endeavor is not
what is was 15 or even 10 years ago. If Billy Walters went 3-8 early in
his career and decided to quit, would he have the success that he now
enjoys? Is it a wonder that the cream of the crop rises not because
they are the best, but because they do not accept failure? From a
personal standpoint I think success is what you do everyday, not on
special occasion, but what you do on a consistent basis. And that is
coming to "work" ,working at it and keep on plugging away. I am no
Billy Walters, he who owns 7 golf courses, or 5 airplanes, but it
(gambling) has afforded me many things i couldn't attain or experienced
without it.
This is my point. If a 3-8 performance was enough to derail me, I would
quit and never bet again. That or seriously evaluate that you are over
betting your bankroll. If you are on a high that you went 13-2 like the
first day, then you are over betting your bankroll. If you thought you
were going to be rich after going 22-13, then you are over betting you
bankroll. Are you seriously telling me that I would leave after going
3-8 after going 5-6 the night before? Back in the day when the bets
where a lot larger, I had a streak of 1-21. I am dead serious I was
about to get a gun and blow my brains out. Such is the life of a
gambler. Fast forward 15 years later, and someone is telling me after
going 3- 8 I would disappear. It is funny how small thinking some
people are.
First off, the shotgun versus the sniper approach. If you are selective
about games and play one or two a day, you can bet 3 to 4 percent of
your bankroll on a game should you hit 57 or so percent. The shotgun
approach which we are using requires that you divide your bankroll in
175-200 units. Seeing that on a Saturday you might play 25 or 30 games
, you still would be putting 15 to 20 percent of your bankroll in
action on that given day. It is just two different ways to skin a cat.
Since we started with the whole card, we will keep going with the whole
card, this shotgun approach enables you to go 13-2, 22- 13, 5-6, 3-8 or
so on and so on. Rather than the sniper approach, which would be 1-0 or
0-1. I hope that makes sense. So yes while going 8-14 is not the
greatest, it also offers you the ability of going 13-2, 22-13, 7-3 for
a total of 42-18. If going 8-14 for a couple of days using the shotgun
approach allows you the opportunity to go 42-18 on a few other days, is
there a reason to back away, unless you are over betting the games and
cannot sustain a measly 6 unit loss? If losing 6 units plus juice
derails you from the opportunity from winning 24 units, then I say to
you, you are not a advantage gambler, or you are over betting your
bankroll or power pressing. In any case not a positive expectation in
the long run. Just flat bet, i do sometimes make an exception and bet
1.5 units and 2. In general, selecting from the pool will in the long
term yield similar results. You cannot turn a 60 percent handicapper
into a 80 percent handicapper or 40 percent one, if it is from the same
selection base just by luck or cherry picking.
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I do enjoy some intellectual banter at times,a time when thoughts are
exchanged and criticisms are heard, evaluated discussed solved or
dismissed.The origination of the word forum is 'foris" from the
Latin language. Back in ancient Rome, citizens gathered in an open air
town square to discuss politics, current events, concerns and the
occasional vote. It was democracy at its earliest, not quite what we
have now, but something of which future democracies and nations that
chose this way of living modeled themselves after. Everyone having a
chance to voice their opinion, in open air, in the town square, or
"forum," for all to see without punishment or retaliation. Or so the
theory goes.Maybe ridicule, but hey whats the harm? You are free to say
what you want and the same for myself and the next person.
In my Wednesday post I did mention that I would take Thursday and
Friday off, then return for Saturday. Regardless the outcome of any
games, whether going 3-8 or 8-3 or 12-0 or 0-12. It was clearly stated.
I do not need to bet everyday like I used to years ago, for me it is a
way to keep my mind sharp.The monetary goals from this endeavor is not
what is was 15 or even 10 years ago. If Billy Walters went 3-8 early in
his career and decided to quit, would he have the success that he now
enjoys? Is it a wonder that the cream of the crop rises not because
they are the best, but because they do not accept failure? From a
personal standpoint I think success is what you do everyday, not on
special occasion, but what you do on a consistent basis. And that is
coming to "work" ,working at it and keep on plugging away. I am no
Billy Walters, he who owns 7 golf courses, or 5 airplanes, but it
(gambling) has afforded me many things i couldn't attain or experienced
without it.
This is my point. If a 3-8 performance was enough to derail me, I would
quit and never bet again. That or seriously evaluate that you are over
betting your bankroll. If you are on a high that you went 13-2 like the
first day, then you are over betting your bankroll. If you thought you
were going to be rich after going 22-13, then you are over betting you
bankroll. Are you seriously telling me that I would leave after going
3-8 after going 5-6 the night before? Back in the day when the bets
where a lot larger, I had a streak of 1-21. I am dead serious I was
about to get a gun and blow my brains out. Such is the life of a
gambler. Fast forward 15 years later, and someone is telling me after
going 3- 8 I would disappear. It is funny how small thinking some
people are.
First off, the shotgun versus the sniper approach. If you are selective
about games and play one or two a day, you can bet 3 to 4 percent of
your bankroll on a game should you hit 57 or so percent. The shotgun
approach which we are using requires that you divide your bankroll in
175-200 units. Seeing that on a Saturday you might play 25 or 30 games
, you still would be putting 15 to 20 percent of your bankroll in
action on that given day. It is just two different ways to skin a cat.
Since we started with the whole card, we will keep going with the whole
card, this shotgun approach enables you to go 13-2, 22- 13, 5-6, 3-8 or
so on and so on. Rather than the sniper approach, which would be 1-0 or
0-1. I hope that makes sense. So yes while going 8-14 is not the
greatest, it also offers you the ability of going 13-2, 22-13, 7-3 for
a total of 42-18. If going 8-14 for a couple of days using the shotgun
approach allows you the opportunity to go 42-18 on a few other days, is
there a reason to back away, unless you are over betting the games and
cannot sustain a measly 6 unit loss? If losing 6 units plus juice
derails you from the opportunity from winning 24 units, then I say to
you, you are not a advantage gambler, or you are over betting your
bankroll or power pressing. In any case not a positive expectation in
the long run. Just flat bet, i do sometimes make an exception and bet
1.5 units and 2. In general, selecting from the pool will in the long
term yield similar results. You cannot turn a 60 percent handicapper
into a 80 percent handicapper or 40 percent one, if it is from the same
selection base just by luck or cherry picking.
The issue about the lines is this. First off my lines are proprietary.
I did it for one day so you could see that a well construed line will
always expose a line limited from flexibility. Like I stated earlier,
the lines you make or i make are meant only to point in the right
direction, never to predict final outcome. Lines that are made to
PREDICT final outcome are temporary and do not last long term. That was
one of the first lessons I got from a mentor of mine many years ago.
The lines of Shirley-jester, are strict mathematical handicaps. I
venture to say I can state her lines in the majority of games, just
because it is based heavily on numbers. What is different from MIT
geeks, computer geeks, and old school linemakers
is "feel". If the MIT geeks think they can asses values by
supercomputer to variables which are of human nature, then they are re
inventing the wheel. I remember years ago what he told me. You can make
the same line as I can,( because yes he showed me the basics,) but only
years of experience will let you "tweak" it. Every year it changes,
every team, different players, different coaches different eras. But
your "feel" as you "progress" will let you improvise. Something a super
computer will never be able to do. I don't care what they say, the mind
in itself is greater than anything that we can create. Let them lie to
themselves. Just not to me.
Second i will not be baited by anyone to put out my lines. Period.
Shirley-jester has been thrown into the box, because as Sparty444
pointed out, and it was clear and obvious, she wanted to sell her
services. Her useless attempt at trying to have people "visit' her
website by invitation only was not only amateurish, but comical. She
quoted lines of a favorite, example Duke-11.235 , lol,
it reminds me what I used to do. except that was 20 years ago. There is
no such thing as .235 of a point. Sure in super computer terms there is
a thing like 11.2356789678 points, but in real life its actually 5
buckets and a free throw. 11 points total. Not 11.235 points. Geez..i can tell an amateur when I see one, and one of her post sealed the deal for me.
btw...if you are an alias of Shirley Jester, please do not ask to see
my lines. Please put in the good 5- 10 years it took me to come up with
my way of handicapping the games, and learn to objectively and
subjectively handicap the games. I am sure you are well versed in the
mathematical aspect. Lazily inputing values into a computer and letting
it do all the "work" is not my style. I prefer to let my mind work,
and if there is one thing that always bothered me, its always been
laziness.Being from a lower middle class, I knew work and smarts was my
only avenue out , and since I'm not the brightest I knew I'd have to
work hard. So yes while others claim to use the "supercomputer aspect"
or their MIT degrees, this guy uses the good old paper and pencil, a
quiet place, a scalding cup of black coffee, and a hard chair. The easy
way out is actually not the easiest, go with the proven, classic and
timeless.
She stated once that an "interesting coincidence" seems to be happening
on the smaller cards like Sunday or Monday. She states that the smaller
the card, it "seems" like the line gets tighter. Meaning the advantage
is less or none on those days. I knew right then that though she claims
to be in the business for 7 or 8 years, it is no "strangely appearing"
as a "coincidence" on these small cards. If you've been handicapping
seriously and successfully for 6 months you would have learned that
lesson years ago. Not stating 7 years into your career that it is
"strangely a coincidence". I nearly fell off my chair laughing and knew
she or he was a rookie of "mathematical applied sciences"
Going through schooling everyone must learn to read and write. To write
as author requires you to clearly put your thoughts on paper so
everyone can understand. Not only what you mean, but the the great ones
let you experience their intent, their passion , ideas and their
acknowledgment. It is quite different then writing that you learned in
school. (The nouns, pronouns, verbs and adjectives.) It is my hope that
I did communicate these facts and opinions clearly so it is understood
in a betting manner, and more importantly a real life manner. If I did
not do that, then again my sincere apologies.
Lastly like I said, Thursday and Friday I will be spending time with
family most likely. Not "hiding" after a 3-8 result the previous night,
or trying to have you inquire my whereabouts to "join" my "invitation
only" website. No it is about FAMILY TIME !! I enjoy the little ones as
should be, but I remember what he told me once that I'l always
remember. To keep sharp, you must learn to get away. At least once a
week. And I've never forgotten to keep sharp. It is advice that has
worked for me and maybe will work for you too. One day to get away and
enjoy the smaller things in life. It is those things that count the
most, especially to one who counts the deck.
Good luck and enjoy the games....CTD
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The issue about the lines is this. First off my lines are proprietary.
I did it for one day so you could see that a well construed line will
always expose a line limited from flexibility. Like I stated earlier,
the lines you make or i make are meant only to point in the right
direction, never to predict final outcome. Lines that are made to
PREDICT final outcome are temporary and do not last long term. That was
one of the first lessons I got from a mentor of mine many years ago.
The lines of Shirley-jester, are strict mathematical handicaps. I
venture to say I can state her lines in the majority of games, just
because it is based heavily on numbers. What is different from MIT
geeks, computer geeks, and old school linemakers
is "feel". If the MIT geeks think they can asses values by
supercomputer to variables which are of human nature, then they are re
inventing the wheel. I remember years ago what he told me. You can make
the same line as I can,( because yes he showed me the basics,) but only
years of experience will let you "tweak" it. Every year it changes,
every team, different players, different coaches different eras. But
your "feel" as you "progress" will let you improvise. Something a super
computer will never be able to do. I don't care what they say, the mind
in itself is greater than anything that we can create. Let them lie to
themselves. Just not to me.
Second i will not be baited by anyone to put out my lines. Period.
Shirley-jester has been thrown into the box, because as Sparty444
pointed out, and it was clear and obvious, she wanted to sell her
services. Her useless attempt at trying to have people "visit' her
website by invitation only was not only amateurish, but comical. She
quoted lines of a favorite, example Duke-11.235 , lol,
it reminds me what I used to do. except that was 20 years ago. There is
no such thing as .235 of a point. Sure in super computer terms there is
a thing like 11.2356789678 points, but in real life its actually 5
buckets and a free throw. 11 points total. Not 11.235 points. Geez..i can tell an amateur when I see one, and one of her post sealed the deal for me.
btw...if you are an alias of Shirley Jester, please do not ask to see
my lines. Please put in the good 5- 10 years it took me to come up with
my way of handicapping the games, and learn to objectively and
subjectively handicap the games. I am sure you are well versed in the
mathematical aspect. Lazily inputing values into a computer and letting
it do all the "work" is not my style. I prefer to let my mind work,
and if there is one thing that always bothered me, its always been
laziness.Being from a lower middle class, I knew work and smarts was my
only avenue out , and since I'm not the brightest I knew I'd have to
work hard. So yes while others claim to use the "supercomputer aspect"
or their MIT degrees, this guy uses the good old paper and pencil, a
quiet place, a scalding cup of black coffee, and a hard chair. The easy
way out is actually not the easiest, go with the proven, classic and
timeless.
She stated once that an "interesting coincidence" seems to be happening
on the smaller cards like Sunday or Monday. She states that the smaller
the card, it "seems" like the line gets tighter. Meaning the advantage
is less or none on those days. I knew right then that though she claims
to be in the business for 7 or 8 years, it is no "strangely appearing"
as a "coincidence" on these small cards. If you've been handicapping
seriously and successfully for 6 months you would have learned that
lesson years ago. Not stating 7 years into your career that it is
"strangely a coincidence". I nearly fell off my chair laughing and knew
she or he was a rookie of "mathematical applied sciences"
Going through schooling everyone must learn to read and write. To write
as author requires you to clearly put your thoughts on paper so
everyone can understand. Not only what you mean, but the the great ones
let you experience their intent, their passion , ideas and their
acknowledgment. It is quite different then writing that you learned in
school. (The nouns, pronouns, verbs and adjectives.) It is my hope that
I did communicate these facts and opinions clearly so it is understood
in a betting manner, and more importantly a real life manner. If I did
not do that, then again my sincere apologies.
Lastly like I said, Thursday and Friday I will be spending time with
family most likely. Not "hiding" after a 3-8 result the previous night,
or trying to have you inquire my whereabouts to "join" my "invitation
only" website. No it is about FAMILY TIME !! I enjoy the little ones as
should be, but I remember what he told me once that I'l always
remember. To keep sharp, you must learn to get away. At least once a
week. And I've never forgotten to keep sharp. It is advice that has
worked for me and maybe will work for you too. One day to get away and
enjoy the smaller things in life. It is those things that count the
most, especially to one who counts the deck.
"Like I stated earlier, the lines you make or i make are meant only to point in the right direction, never to predict final outcome. Lines that are made to PREDICT final outcome are temporary and do not last long term. That was one of the first lessons I got from a mentor of mine many years ago. "
uhh...the lines you make points to nowhere my friend. you only popped out several days after shirleys lines were out and people were making money out of it. you went into her thread claiming your lines will point everyone in the right direction 85% of the time but so far your "lines" is so far below .500 . you showed us your line vs vegas lines and you even "predicted" lines 1 day before actual lines come out but anybody can go to kenpom and derive their own lines(it's easy).
remember CTD numbers speaks for themselves.
i'll see you at the end of the season
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"Like I stated earlier, the lines you make or i make are meant only to point in the right direction, never to predict final outcome. Lines that are made to PREDICT final outcome are temporary and do not last long term. That was one of the first lessons I got from a mentor of mine many years ago. "
uhh...the lines you make points to nowhere my friend. you only popped out several days after shirleys lines were out and people were making money out of it. you went into her thread claiming your lines will point everyone in the right direction 85% of the time but so far your "lines" is so far below .500 . you showed us your line vs vegas lines and you even "predicted" lines 1 day before actual lines come out but anybody can go to kenpom and derive their own lines(it's easy).
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