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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 9:53 PM ET #1826

    I'm considering doing that as stated in my earlier post, toohigh, but I would have to find an online book that gives a ml on such obscure teams, I don't think bm does.
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    I'm considering doing that as stated in my earlier post, toohigh, but I would have to find an online book that gives a ml on such obscure teams, I don't think bm does.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 11:24 PM ET #1827

    Solid night.
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    Solid night.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2014 - 11:25 PM ET #1828

    Went 5-3 on the eight I played. Missed the push by half point  Con Sacramento St. Played ML on Tennessee Chatanooga at +305 and won. Only one I played on ML. Good night for system. Great work Kineprofessor and Ryno. 
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    Went 5-3 on the eight I played. Missed the push by half point  Con Sacramento St. Played ML on Tennessee Chatanooga at +305 and won. Only one I played on ML. Good night for system. Great work Kineprofessor and Ryno. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 12:22 AM ET #1829

    is campbell +10 vs highpoint a play tomorrow?
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    is campbell +10 vs highpoint a play tomorrow?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 2:47 AM ET #1830

    kenpom updates daily, and it says on the site when the last update was.

    Bookmaker does offer MLs on these games, although perhaps not on the very lopsided ones.

    Basically all offshore books offer MLs on a game where they offer a spread (the exception is when the spreads are so large, basically only 5 Dimes will offer a ML).


    Example:

    Bookmaker's ML history on one of the Thursday games


    585 IUPUI @ 586 Nebraska Omaha
    02/27/14 08:00pm
    02/27/14 04:12:25pm +790 -1250
    02/27/14 11:06:06am +810 -1300
    02/27/14 11:05:54am +796 -1274
    02/27/14 08:20:09am +620 -900

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    kenpom updates daily, and it says on the site when the last update was.

    Bookmaker does offer MLs on these games, although perhaps not on the very lopsided ones.

    Basically all offshore books offer MLs on a game where they offer a spread (the exception is when the spreads are so large, basically only 5 Dimes will offer a ML).


    Example:

    Bookmaker's ML history on one of the Thursday games


    585 IUPUI @ 586 Nebraska Omaha
    02/27/14 08:00pm
    02/27/14 04:12:25pm +790 -1250
    02/27/14 11:06:06am +810 -1300
    02/27/14 11:05:54am +796 -1274
    02/27/14 08:20:09am +620 -900

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 3:06 AM ET #1831

    Quote Originally Posted by Based4yourface:

    is campbell +10 vs highpoint a play tomorrow?

    No, Campbell hasn't had a game with a spread all year and Highpoint has only had 2. It's stated somewhere you don't play these games
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    Quote Originally Posted by Based4yourface:

    is campbell +10 vs highpoint a play tomorrow?

    No, Campbell hasn't had a game with a spread all year and Highpoint has only had 2. It's stated somewhere you don't play these games
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 3:23 AM ET #1832

    Keep it up buddy
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    Keep it up buddy
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 7:52 AM ET #1833

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyJet:

    Went 5-3 on the eight I played. Missed the push by half point  Con Sacramento St. Played ML on Tennessee Chatanooga at +305 and won. Only one I played on ML. Good night for system. Great work Kineprofessor and Ryno. 


    Unfort played UNCG (even though it was not a play) as I was in a rush. Not sure why people post plays that do not qualify...


    Thanks to you (and Kine/Ryno) for keeping this rolling and making it simple to follow. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyJet:

    Went 5-3 on the eight I played. Missed the push by half point  Con Sacramento St. Played ML on Tennessee Chatanooga at +305 and won. Only one I played on ML. Good night for system. Great work Kineprofessor and Ryno. 


    Unfort played UNCG (even though it was not a play) as I was in a rush. Not sure why people post plays that do not qualify...


    Thanks to you (and Kine/Ryno) for keeping this rolling and making it simple to follow. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 10:22 AM ET #1834

    Moneyyy

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    Moneyyy

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 11:43 AM ET #1835

    Thanks to all that support and post this.  Very fun to make wagers on big dogs, that no one  likes.
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    Thanks to all that support and post this.  Very fun to make wagers on big dogs, that no one  likes.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 11:46 AM ET #1836

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucrative:



    Unfort played UNCG (even though it was not a play) as I was in a rush. Not sure why people post plays that do not qualify...


    Thanks to you (and Kine/Ryno) for keeping this rolling and making it simple to follow. 

    Someone said Davidson was at 143 last night, I didn't check last night but I see them at 133 now, does anyone know what they were really at last night?  Even Ryno had them as a play,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucrative:



    Unfort played UNCG (even though it was not a play) as I was in a rush. Not sure why people post plays that do not qualify...


    Thanks to you (and Kine/Ryno) for keeping this rolling and making it simple to follow. 

    Someone said Davidson was at 143 last night, I didn't check last night but I see them at 133 now, does anyone know what they were really at last night?  Even Ryno had them as a play,
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 1:12 PM ET #1837

    Thanks for the info yisman.
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    Thanks for the info yisman.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 2:37 PM ET #1838

    Quote Originally Posted by redmenrule:


    Someone said Davidson was at 143 last night, I didn't check last night but I see them at 133 now, does anyone know what they were really at last night?  Even Ryno had them as a play,

    They were ranked 143 to start the day, in my opinion it was a play. I didn't play Portland St however because the line opened at 7, at least at my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redmenrule:


    Someone said Davidson was at 143 last night, I didn't check last night but I see them at 133 now, does anyone know what they were really at last night?  Even Ryno had them as a play,

    They were ranked 143 to start the day, in my opinion it was a play. I didn't play Portland St however because the line opened at 7, at least at my book.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 4:14 PM ET #1839

    Quote Originally Posted by NewEra760:


    They were ranked 143 to start the day, in my opinion it was a play. I didn't play Portland St however because the line opened at 7, at least at my book.


    Thanks, Lets Go Mets!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewEra760:


    They were ranked 143 to start the day, in my opinion it was a play. I didn't play Portland St however because the line opened at 7, at least at my book.


    Thanks, Lets Go Mets!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 4:32 PM ET #1840

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucrative:



    Unfort played UNCG (even though it was not a play) as I was in a rush. Not sure why people post plays that do not qualify...


    Thanks to you (and Kine/Ryno) for keeping this rolling and making it simple to follow. 

    Davidson was 143 before tipoff of last nights game. 

    UNGC was an official play on the system. you could always invest $20 in kenpom and see for yourself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucrative:



    Unfort played UNCG (even though it was not a play) as I was in a rush. Not sure why people post plays that do not qualify...


    Thanks to you (and Kine/Ryno) for keeping this rolling and making it simple to follow. 

    Davidson was 143 before tipoff of last nights game. 

    UNGC was an official play on the system. you could always invest $20 in kenpom and see for yourself!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 5:14 PM ET #1841

    Quote Originally Posted by BRET_BROCK:


    Davidson was 143 before tipoff of last nights game. 

    UNGC was an official play on the system. you could always invest $20 in kenpom and see for yourself!


    What - and have to actually do something?

    AND give up whining?  NOT A CHANCE!!!   :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRET_BROCK:


    Davidson was 143 before tipoff of last nights game. 

    UNGC was an official play on the system. you could always invest $20 in kenpom and see for yourself!


    What - and have to actually do something?

    AND give up whining?  NOT A CHANCE!!!   :)
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 5:43 PM ET #1842

    No one was whining Chimes McGee. I understand the parameters of the system; there were just several people who said UNCG was/was not a play. It wasn't clear. So don't get your panties all in a wad.
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    No one was whining Chimes McGee. I understand the parameters of the system; there were just several people who said UNCG was/was not a play. It wasn't clear. So don't get your panties all in a wad.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 7:02 PM ET #1843

    Seems to be 7 plays tomorrow .App. State, Greensboro, No. Arizona ,So. Utah, Portland St., IUPUI, Tenn. Tech.

    Does anyone remember a parameter of the system that avoids playing the dog if the home team is having Senior Day.

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    Seems to be 7 plays tomorrow .App. State, Greensboro, No. Arizona ,So. Utah, Portland St., IUPUI, Tenn. Tech.

    Does anyone remember a parameter of the system that avoids playing the dog if the home team is having Senior Day.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 7:33 PM ET #1844

    When is the last day of the system , I'm a little confuse here. 

    I thought it was today. 
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    When is the last day of the system , I'm a little confuse here. 

    I thought it was today. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 8:12 PM ET #1845

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucrative:

    No one was whining Chimes McGee. I understand the parameters of the system; there were just several people who said UNCG was/was not a play. It wasn't clear. So don't get your panties all in a wad.


    If you understand, then you don't need to worry about whatever anyone posts, do you?


    So post 1803 - that clearly showed it was a play and listed the rankings of both teams prior to the games played the night before (hard to know the Kenpom rankings for the following day if you're using opening lines - but then again, since you know the system, you know that too, right?  ), and the post right after that, 1804, where Ryno agreed it was a play, would those be the posts you're referring to where it wasn't clear and where people posted plays that weren't plays?

    Sure sounds like whining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucrative:

    No one was whining Chimes McGee. I understand the parameters of the system; there were just several people who said UNCG was/was not a play. It wasn't clear. So don't get your panties all in a wad.


    If you understand, then you don't need to worry about whatever anyone posts, do you?


    So post 1803 - that clearly showed it was a play and listed the rankings of both teams prior to the games played the night before (hard to know the Kenpom rankings for the following day if you're using opening lines - but then again, since you know the system, you know that too, right?  ), and the post right after that, 1804, where Ryno agreed it was a play, would those be the posts you're referring to where it wasn't clear and where people posted plays that weren't plays?

    Sure sounds like whining.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 9:20 PM ET #1846

    See for tomorrow following. Question is because system went 0-3 last Saturday should you lower your wagers on Saturday?

    Appalachian St +7.5 vs Chatannoga (268)

    N.C. Greensboro + 11.5 vs Wofford (179)

    Tenn St + 13.5 vs E Kentucky (140)

    IUPUI +9 vs Western Illinois (269)

    Southern Utah +16.5 vs Montana (199)

    Portland St +8.5 vs Northern Colorado (222)

    Northern Arizona +12 vs Weber St (165)

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    See for tomorrow following. Question is because system went 0-3 last Saturday should you lower your wagers on Saturday?

    Appalachian St +7.5 vs Chatannoga (268)

    N.C. Greensboro + 11.5 vs Wofford (179)

    Tenn St + 13.5 vs E Kentucky (140)

    IUPUI +9 vs Western Illinois (269)

    Southern Utah +16.5 vs Montana (199)

    Portland St +8.5 vs Northern Colorado (222)

    Northern Arizona +12 vs Weber St (165)

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 9:22 PM ET #1847

    FYI

    First, you need to realize that there are always a handful of games every season that are "fuzzy" (i.e. did a line move to the "6.5 threshold" and, of course, the infamous what line did you get it at, as these games can have a tendency to move multiple points in any direction).  No matter how you look at it, over the past two seasons, from bracketbuster Saturday till the end of the season, this system has been 30+ games over .500.  If you include the "pre-system" (starting Feb 1st till bracketbuster Saturday), the past three seasons the pre-system is 25+ games over .500 itself.     
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    FYI

    First, you need to realize that there are always a handful of games every season that are "fuzzy" (i.e. did a line move to the "6.5 threshold" and, of course, the infamous what line did you get it at, as these games can have a tendency to move multiple points in any direction).  No matter how you look at it, over the past two seasons, from bracketbuster Saturday till the end of the season, this system has been 30+ games over .500.  If you include the "pre-system" (starting Feb 1st till bracketbuster Saturday), the past three seasons the pre-system is 25+ games over .500 itself.     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 9:23 PM ET #1848

    Quote Originally Posted by DGeneral:

    Seems to be 7 plays tomorrow .App. State, Greensboro, No. Arizona ,So. Utah, Portland St., IUPUI, Tenn. Tech.

    Does anyone remember a parameter of the system that avoids playing the dog if the home team is having Senior Day.

    Tenn Tech needs to be double digit dog because Morehead St ranked (168). Missing Tenn St.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGeneral:

    Seems to be 7 plays tomorrow .App. State, Greensboro, No. Arizona ,So. Utah, Portland St., IUPUI, Tenn. Tech.

    Does anyone remember a parameter of the system that avoids playing the dog if the home team is having Senior Day.

    Tenn Tech needs to be double digit dog because Morehead St ranked (168). Missing Tenn St.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 10:03 PM ET #1849

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyJet:

    See for tomorrow following. Question is because system went 0-3 last Saturday should you lower your wagers on Saturday?

    Appalachian St +7.5 vs Chatannoga (268)

    N.C. Greensboro + 11.5 vs Wofford (179)

    Tenn St + 13.5 vs E Kentucky (140)

    IUPUI +9 vs Western Illinois (269)

    Southern Utah +16.5 vs Montana (199)

    Portland St +8.5 vs Northern Colorado (222)

    Northern Arizona +12 vs Weber St (165)



    Thanks for posting i got on this last round and will keep on it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyJet:

    See for tomorrow following. Question is because system went 0-3 last Saturday should you lower your wagers on Saturday?

    Appalachian St +7.5 vs Chatannoga (268)

    N.C. Greensboro + 11.5 vs Wofford (179)

    Tenn St + 13.5 vs E Kentucky (140)

    IUPUI +9 vs Western Illinois (269)

    Southern Utah +16.5 vs Montana (199)

    Portland St +8.5 vs Northern Colorado (222)

    Northern Arizona +12 vs Weber St (165)



    Thanks for posting i got on this last round and will keep on it.


     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2014 - 10:23 PM ET #1850

    Chimes, I was inferring that I was in a rush and wasn't sure if UNCG was a play. There have been 'hazy' plays as there is a 'sliding scale' on what qualifies. Hence, the comment. It was in jest. I haven't been critical of any plays in here, nor anyone I tail. As implied, I had not checked the up to date ranking and someone mentioned UNCG was not a play. It seems it was.

    Regardless, no bitching here. Maybe you should have read my previous post praising the positive day. Troll someone else. :handshake:
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    Chimes, I was inferring that I was in a rush and wasn't sure if UNCG was a play. There have been 'hazy' plays as there is a 'sliding scale' on what qualifies. Hence, the comment. It was in jest. I haven't been critical of any plays in here, nor anyone I tail. As implied, I had not checked the up to date ranking and someone mentioned UNCG was not a play. It seems it was.

    Regardless, no bitching here. Maybe you should have read my previous post praising the positive day. Troll someone else. :handshake:
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