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    yisman
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2014 - 3:34 PM ET #1701

    I will check back in for Saturday. thanks for the picks.
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    I will check back in for Saturday. thanks for the picks.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2014 - 4:22 PM ET #1702

    Quote Originally Posted by Lethargic_Budah:

    Furman is a lock. They will cover tonight


    Not quite........no such thing as a lock my friend. The oddsmakers aren't stupid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethargic_Budah:

    Furman is a lock. They will cover tonight


    Not quite........no such thing as a lock my friend. The oddsmakers aren't stupid
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2014 - 7:00 PM ET #1703

    From overnight lines the following should be plays for Saturday:

    Rice +8

    Tex San Antonio +7.5

    The Citadel +16

    Not official....fit the parameters of the system.

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    From overnight lines the following should be plays for Saturday:

    Rice +8

    Tex San Antonio +7.5

    The Citadel +16

    Not official....fit the parameters of the system.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2014 - 7:04 PM ET #1704

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyJet:

    From overnight lines the following should be plays for Saturday:

    Rice +8

    Tex San Antonio +7.5

    The Citadel +16

    Not official....fit the parameters of the system.

    LA Monroe is real close right Jimmy?  It's at 9.5 right now I think and if goes to 10 it's good to go? Sorry to ask all the damn time!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyJet:

    From overnight lines the following should be plays for Saturday:

    Rice +8

    Tex San Antonio +7.5

    The Citadel +16

    Not official....fit the parameters of the system.

    LA Monroe is real close right Jimmy?  It's at 9.5 right now I think and if goes to 10 it's good to go? Sorry to ask all the damn time!!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2014 - 7:21 PM ET #1705

    Quote Originally Posted by pulltabpetey:

    LA Monroe is real close right Jimmy?  It's at 9.5 right now I think and if goes to 10 it's good to go? Sorry to ask all the damn time!!

    Western Kentucky (174) so needs to be double digit favorite. I see 8.5 now. Be careful as guard Amos Olatayo is out for Monroe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulltabpetey:

    LA Monroe is real close right Jimmy?  It's at 9.5 right now I think and if goes to 10 it's good to go? Sorry to ask all the damn time!!

    Western Kentucky (174) so needs to be double digit favorite. I see 8.5 now. Be careful as guard Amos Olatayo is out for Monroe.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2014 - 10:50 PM ET #1706

    All three of those "plays" have moved a half-point in the wrong direction
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    All three of those "plays" have moved a half-point in the wrong direction
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 1:47 AM ET #1707

    Quote Originally Posted by KineProfessor:

    Ryno: I contacted you with some inside information for your eyes only

    System Update (for those that are interested):

    1. System should start Feb 13th (some would argue Feb 20th and they would have a point) and run to the end of the season and not include conference tourney games (although you could certainly use some of the principles to narrow down cards and look more closely at games).

    2. System should use a sliding scale and begin around Kenpom 140, understand that for teams ranked by Kenpom between  #140-200, lines should be DD before it qualifies as a play.  For teams #200-Southern Utah, lines of 7.5 or higher to constitute a play (of course you are still welcome to use your own brain and consider games that just miss the criteria as games that you should possibly look at more closely and consider playing).

    3. Games played on Thursday (or Friday) should be weighed more heavily than Saturday (or Sunday) aka the infamous two-game in three night small conference road trips.  So what I am saying is that I am more likely to play a borderline game on a Thursday (or Friday) and more likely to layoff a borderline game on Saturday (or Sunday). 

    Lastly, there are just guidelines to help you dwindle down big cards and give you are things to consider besides the normal capping BS that you read on this forum (and many other including the 140-character site, hope you see how those "cappers" are doing - ouch).  The fact is that most gamblers are still doing the same things that they were doing when the system blew up a number of years ago.  They still bet big teams that are televised (and who, of course, have the tightest lines imaginable).  They still bet favorites and they still feel completely stupid when they bet on small conference team that gets destroyed.  Listen, we still need some of these game to lose (and if they are going to lose, we want it to be a spectacular trainwreck) because those cappers would rather lose their money watching an OSU game then tracking a Samford or Appy St game online. 

    Remember, keep it simple, don't overthink it, have fun and we are all in this together.  I wont be around much or answering question but if Ryno wants to keep this thread alive and track the updated system plays (and he, as well as you guys, are welcome to tweak it as well) that is fine. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by KineProfessor:

    Ryno: I contacted you with some inside information for your eyes only

    System Update (for those that are interested):

    1. System should start Feb 13th (some would argue Feb 20th and they would have a point) and run to the end of the season and not include conference tourney games (although you could certainly use some of the principles to narrow down cards and look more closely at games).

    2. System should use a sliding scale and begin around Kenpom 140, understand that for teams ranked by Kenpom between  #140-200, lines should be DD before it qualifies as a play.  For teams #200-Southern Utah, lines of 7.5 or higher to constitute a play (of course you are still welcome to use your own brain and consider games that just miss the criteria as games that you should possibly look at more closely and consider playing).

    3. Games played on Thursday (or Friday) should be weighed more heavily than Saturday (or Sunday) aka the infamous two-game in three night small conference road trips.  So what I am saying is that I am more likely to play a borderline game on a Thursday (or Friday) and more likely to layoff a borderline game on Saturday (or Sunday). 

    Lastly, there are just guidelines to help you dwindle down big cards and give you are things to consider besides the normal capping BS that you read on this forum (and many other including the 140-character site, hope you see how those "cappers" are doing - ouch).  The fact is that most gamblers are still doing the same things that they were doing when the system blew up a number of years ago.  They still bet big teams that are televised (and who, of course, have the tightest lines imaginable).  They still bet favorites and they still feel completely stupid when they bet on small conference team that gets destroyed.  Listen, we still need some of these game to lose (and if they are going to lose, we want it to be a spectacular trainwreck) because those cappers would rather lose their money watching an OSU game then tracking a Samford or Appy St game online. 

    Remember, keep it simple, don't overthink it, have fun and we are all in this together.  I wont be around much or answering question but if Ryno wants to keep this thread alive and track the updated system plays (and he, as well as you guys, are welcome to tweak it as well) that is fine. 


     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 1:49 AM ET #1708

    [Quote: Originally Posted by letsgomets2007]

    System bets on road dogs, so no, this is not a play.  Please see post 1241
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    I don't see where it says "road dogs"
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by letsgomets2007]

    System bets on road dogs, so no, this is not a play.  Please see post 1241
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    I don't see where it says "road dogs"
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 1:58 AM ET #1709

    Will wait for mr Ryno to confirm the picks tomorrow :)))
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    Will wait for mr Ryno to confirm the picks tomorrow :)))
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 2:04 AM ET #1710

    I know the system fades home favorites, duh! I am just trying to make it easier to identify the "latest" parameters instead of going through 69 pages. 

    Kineprofessor, could you please "quote" the latest parameters? Thanks!
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    I know the system fades home favorites, duh! I am just trying to make it easier to identify the "latest" parameters instead of going through 69 pages. 

    Kineprofessor, could you please "quote" the latest parameters? Thanks!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 6:46 AM ET #1711

    Gbpackman, the original system parameters are based on betting against home favs. 

    The adjusted parameters in post#1241 are to kenpom ratings and the spreads. 
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    Gbpackman, the original system parameters are based on betting against home favs. 

    The adjusted parameters in post#1241 are to kenpom ratings and the spreads. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 7:32 AM ET #1712

    ok guys...new day...large card...heres what I got , if I miss any please let me know, jimmyjet..thanks for the help.

    system record:   8-5-1

    plays today:

    Rice +8

    Tex San Antonio +7.5

    The Citadel +16

    as I saw above...Monroe could be a play but injury there so tread lightly. also..w. kemtucky lost at home last sat and that doesn't happen often.

    gl today.   ryno

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    ok guys...new day...large card...heres what I got , if I miss any please let me know, jimmyjet..thanks for the help.

    system record:   8-5-1

    plays today:

    Rice +8

    Tex San Antonio +7.5

    The Citadel +16

    as I saw above...Monroe could be a play but injury there so tread lightly. also..w. kemtucky lost at home last sat and that doesn't happen often.

    gl today.   ryno

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 10:32 AM ET #1713

    Thanks and with you guys on all three. Good luck to all!
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    Thanks and with you guys on all three. Good luck to all!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 10:35 AM ET #1714

    thanks. 

    lots of line movement. I could only get Citadel to +15.5
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    thanks. 

    lots of line movement. I could only get Citadel to +15.5
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 10:46 AM ET #1715

    im looking at riverside also as a play.cal poly  is horrible...and usually a team we are on as dog....think too many...fits old parameters but  not a system play.
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    im looking at riverside also as a play.cal poly  is horrible...and usually a team we are on as dog....think too many...fits old parameters but  not a system play.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 1:58 PM ET #1716

    Quote Originally Posted by ryno23:

    im looking at riverside also as a play.cal poly  is horrible...and usually a team we are on as dog....think too many...fits old parameters but  not a system play.

    I'm on Riverside as well.  Last night I won on Detroit too as it fit the old parameters and I was bored!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryno23:

    im looking at riverside also as a play.cal poly  is horrible...and usually a team we are on as dog....think too many...fits old parameters but  not a system play.

    I'm on Riverside as well.  Last night I won on Detroit too as it fit the old parameters and I was bored!

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 3:43 PM ET #1717

    Citadel is putrid
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    Citadel is putrid
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 5:21 PM ET #1718

    Citadel failed. Rice is off to a terrible start. I guess there will be those days...
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    Citadel failed. Rice is off to a terrible start. I guess there will be those days...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 5:22 PM ET #1719

    Quote Originally Posted by bullmoose:

    Citadel is putrid

    Thanks for that astounding piece of handicapping insight!

    I can only hope that you choose to share further brilliant insights in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullmoose:

    Citadel is putrid

    Thanks for that astounding piece of handicapping insight!

    I can only hope that you choose to share further brilliant insights in the future.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 5:25 PM ET #1720

    The Rice game is over already, bad day for the system.
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    The Rice game is over already, bad day for the system.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 5:40 PM ET #1721

    Rice will win this game SU
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    Rice will win this game SU
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 5:54 PM ET #1722

    Oh ya ? Lol
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    Oh ya ? Lol
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 6:04 PM ET #1723

    8-0 run to start the 2nd half, Rice 32-40
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    8-0 run to start the 2nd half, Rice 32-40
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 6:12 PM ET #1724

    15-3 run, Rice 39-43
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    15-3 run, Rice 39-43
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2014 - 7:17 PM ET #1725

    Still have san antonio
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    Still have san antonio
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