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    AussieDownUnder
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2016 - 8:04 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by hoody:

    Aussie , I've been to that killer site before and still don't know how to run it.

    Hey Hoody,

    You need to download the manuals and see how to right the codes to enter in your queries. Probably the best thing I have found for capping sports but more than happy to help you Hoody learn some of the codes..


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    Quote Originally Posted by hoody:

    Aussie , I've been to that killer site before and still don't know how to run it.

    Hey Hoody,

    You need to download the manuals and see how to right the codes to enter in your queries. Probably the best thing I have found for capping sports but more than happy to help you Hoody learn some of the codes..


     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2016 - 11:07 PM ET #27

    Hey Indigo,

    Not a bad percentage buddy

    tS(W, N=3)=0 and H and NDIV
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    Hey Indigo,

    Not a bad percentage buddy

    tS(W, N=3)=0 and H and NDIV
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2016 - 3:54 AM ET #28

    Dang.....forgot about that one!

    Of course now I'll have to look for ways to get out of my Edmonton bet.....got 'em @8

    Montreal is a consensus play at 55% so the possibility exists it'll come down.

    BC's -2- is juicing now, so looks like that line will be going up
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    Dang.....forgot about that one!

    Of course now I'll have to look for ways to get out of my Edmonton bet.....got 'em @8

    Montreal is a consensus play at 55% so the possibility exists it'll come down.

    BC's -2- is juicing now, so looks like that line will be going up
     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2016 - 3:55 AM ET #29

    73% of the public is on the Lions.
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    73% of the public is on the Lions.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2016 - 3:53 AM ET #30

    5)  Edmonton -6-

    I am attempting to middle or side  my Montreal +8 bet, as though it is a long shot, it is a pot odds scenario worth paying the risk of losing the juice.

    The only time one should consider middling is when the opportunity presents itself for the bettor to profit if the margin lands at "3" or "7" as those are the two most common margins in football...those are true middling possibilities,...otherwise unless you have two or three points of a difference between your two lines, you are basically hedging by taking both sides and sacrificing the commission you've paid to the bookmaker, which considering your circumstances, sometimes can be worth it.

    I've mentioned it before, but it is worth repeating, in my research I've not seen it to be profitable in the long-term to bet on consensus dogs, and Montreal now has 53% of the action.
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    5)  Edmonton -6-

    I am attempting to middle or side  my Montreal +8 bet, as though it is a long shot, it is a pot odds scenario worth paying the risk of losing the juice.

    The only time one should consider middling is when the opportunity presents itself for the bettor to profit if the margin lands at "3" or "7" as those are the two most common margins in football...those are true middling possibilities,...otherwise unless you have two or three points of a difference between your two lines, you are basically hedging by taking both sides and sacrificing the commission you've paid to the bookmaker, which considering your circumstances, sometimes can be worth it.

    I've mentioned it before, but it is worth repeating, in my research I've not seen it to be profitable in the long-term to bet on consensus dogs, and Montreal now has 53% of the action.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2016 - 7:20 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    5)  Edmonton -6-

    I am attempting to middle or side  my Montreal +8 bet, as though it is a long shot, it is a pot odds scenario worth paying the risk of losing the juice.

    The only time one should consider middling is when the opportunity presents itself for the bettor to profit if the margin lands at "3" or "7" as those are the two most common margins in football...those are true middling possibilities,...otherwise unless you have two or three points of a difference between your two lines, you are basically hedging by taking both sides and sacrificing the commission you've paid to the bookmaker, which considering your circumstances, sometimes can be worth it.

    I've mentioned it before, but it is worth repeating, in my research I've not seen it to be profitable in the long-term to bet on consensus dogs, and Montreal now has 53% of the action.

    I agree on this play Indigo  
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    5)  Edmonton -6-

    I am attempting to middle or side  my Montreal +8 bet, as though it is a long shot, it is a pot odds scenario worth paying the risk of losing the juice.

    The only time one should consider middling is when the opportunity presents itself for the bettor to profit if the margin lands at "3" or "7" as those are the two most common margins in football...those are true middling possibilities,...otherwise unless you have two or three points of a difference between your two lines, you are basically hedging by taking both sides and sacrificing the commission you've paid to the bookmaker, which considering your circumstances, sometimes can be worth it.

    I've mentioned it before, but it is worth repeating, in my research I've not seen it to be profitable in the long-term to bet on consensus dogs, and Montreal now has 53% of the action.

    I agree on this play Indigo  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2016 - 10:33 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    5)  Edmonton -6-

    I am attempting to middle or side  my Montreal +8 bet, as though it is a long shot, it is a pot odds scenario worth paying the risk of losing the juice.

    The only time one should consider middling is when the opportunity presents itself for the bettor to profit if the margin lands at "3" or "7" as those are the two most common margins in football...those are true middling possibilities,...otherwise unless you have two or three points of a difference between your two lines, you are basically hedging by taking both sides and sacrificing the commission you've paid to the bookmaker, which considering your circumstances, sometimes can be worth it.

    I've mentioned it before, but it is worth repeating, in my research I've not seen it to be profitable in the long-term to bet on consensus dogs, and Montreal now has 53% of the action.


    hi indigo , how you doin´ buddy ?

    just asking , your play is edmonton -6 but if it is -6.5 ? do you stil take it ? i cannot buy the hp .

    thank you .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    5)  Edmonton -6-

    I am attempting to middle or side  my Montreal +8 bet, as though it is a long shot, it is a pot odds scenario worth paying the risk of losing the juice.

    The only time one should consider middling is when the opportunity presents itself for the bettor to profit if the margin lands at "3" or "7" as those are the two most common margins in football...those are true middling possibilities,...otherwise unless you have two or three points of a difference between your two lines, you are basically hedging by taking both sides and sacrificing the commission you've paid to the bookmaker, which considering your circumstances, sometimes can be worth it.

    I've mentioned it before, but it is worth repeating, in my research I've not seen it to be profitable in the long-term to bet on consensus dogs, and Montreal now has 53% of the action.


    hi indigo , how you doin´ buddy ?

    just asking , your play is edmonton -6 but if it is -6.5 ? do you stil take it ? i cannot buy the hp .

    thank you .
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2016 - 3:42 PM ET #33

    Hi Tip.....

    I played Edmonton -6- and I played Montreal at +8, which means if Edmonton wins by 7 I win both bets,,,,.if Edmonton wins by 8 I win the Edmonton bet and I draw  the Montreal bet.

    I have  682 home games in my datatbase and the home team has won by 7, fifteen times and by 8, fourteen times....calculating that out,  based on past history I would win either two bets, or one bet with a draw  4.2% of the time.  There'd be brilliant math people out there that could tell me if this bet has a positive expectation or not, as it is complicated by the fact that one scenario I would win both bets (Edmonton winning by 7), and the other it would be only one bet and the other bet refunded to me, if Edmonton won by 8.


    5)  Edmonton/Montreal UNDER 51-

    Did some more study and UNDER is involved in most of the situational angles I have looked at.  Also saw Danner's thread which collaborates some of my thinking.  As I said in an earlier thread, I was impressed by the Eskimos defense last game out, so maybe they'll start to play reasonably well now, after getting torched most of their games this season.  As usual win my  betting, I am looking for regression to the mean....I don't feel Edmonton is going to keep having very high scoring games the whole season.
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    Hi Tip.....

    I played Edmonton -6- and I played Montreal at +8, which means if Edmonton wins by 7 I win both bets,,,,.if Edmonton wins by 8 I win the Edmonton bet and I draw  the Montreal bet.

    I have  682 home games in my datatbase and the home team has won by 7, fifteen times and by 8, fourteen times....calculating that out,  based on past history I would win either two bets, or one bet with a draw  4.2% of the time.  There'd be brilliant math people out there that could tell me if this bet has a positive expectation or not, as it is complicated by the fact that one scenario I would win both bets (Edmonton winning by 7), and the other it would be only one bet and the other bet refunded to me, if Edmonton won by 8.


    5)  Edmonton/Montreal UNDER 51-

    Did some more study and UNDER is involved in most of the situational angles I have looked at.  Also saw Danner's thread which collaborates some of my thinking.  As I said in an earlier thread, I was impressed by the Eskimos defense last game out, so maybe they'll start to play reasonably well now, after getting torched most of their games this season.  As usual win my  betting, I am looking for regression to the mean....I don't feel Edmonton is going to keep having very high scoring games the whole season.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2016 - 5:01 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Hi Tip.....

    I played Edmonton -6- and I played Montreal at +8, which means if Edmonton wins by 7 I win both bets,,,,.if Edmonton wins by 8 I win the Edmonton bet and I draw  the Montreal bet.

    I have  682 home games in my datatbase and the home team has won by 7, fifteen times and by 8, fourteen times....calculating that out,  based on past history I would win either two bets, or one bet with a draw  4.2% of the time.  There'd be brilliant math people out there that could tell me if this bet has a positive expectation or not, as it is complicated by the fact that one scenario I would win both bets (Edmonton winning by 7), and the other it would be only one bet and the other bet refunded to me, if Edmonton won by 8.


    5)  Edmonton/Montreal UNDER 51-

    Did some more study and UNDER is involved in most of the situational angles I have looked at.  Also saw Danner's thread which collaborates some of my thinking.  As I said in an earlier thread, I was impressed by the Eskimos defense last game out, so maybe they'll start to play reasonably well now, after getting torched most of their games this season.  As usual win my  betting, I am looking for regression to the mean....I don't feel Edmonton is going to keep having very high scoring games the whole season.

    hi indi , wise move on your bet man , hope you win both of them . 

    lets have a great weekend starting today . 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Hi Tip.....

    I played Edmonton -6- and I played Montreal at +8, which means if Edmonton wins by 7 I win both bets,,,,.if Edmonton wins by 8 I win the Edmonton bet and I draw  the Montreal bet.

    I have  682 home games in my datatbase and the home team has won by 7, fifteen times and by 8, fourteen times....calculating that out,  based on past history I would win either two bets, or one bet with a draw  4.2% of the time.  There'd be brilliant math people out there that could tell me if this bet has a positive expectation or not, as it is complicated by the fact that one scenario I would win both bets (Edmonton winning by 7), and the other it would be only one bet and the other bet refunded to me, if Edmonton won by 8.


    5)  Edmonton/Montreal UNDER 51-

    Did some more study and UNDER is involved in most of the situational angles I have looked at.  Also saw Danner's thread which collaborates some of my thinking.  As I said in an earlier thread, I was impressed by the Eskimos defense last game out, so maybe they'll start to play reasonably well now, after getting torched most of their games this season.  As usual win my  betting, I am looking for regression to the mean....I don't feel Edmonton is going to keep having very high scoring games the whole season.

    hi indi , wise move on your bet man , hope you win both of them . 

    lets have a great weekend starting today . 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2016 - 6:54 PM ET #35

    Thanks Spottie,....






    "Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength."  

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    Thanks Spottie,....






    "Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength."  

    Arnold Schwarzenegger

     
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    I pulled some back on the over since what you're doing is working so beautifully.  Maybe I should have dumped the whole thing, but a little bit of risk is okay and I didn't want to throw them juice for free.  If nothing else there is in game and halftime.

    Good luck!  Keep the fire hot this week!!


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    Thanks Spottie,....



    "Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength."  

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    I pulled some back on the over since what you're doing is working so beautifully.  Maybe I should have dumped the whole thing, but a little bit of risk is okay and I didn't want to throw them juice for free.  If nothing else there is in game and halftime.

    Good luck!  Keep the fire hot this week!!


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    Thanks Spottie,....



    "Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength."  

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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2016 - 3:04 AM ET #37

    Plays this week:

    1)  Montreal +8/Edmonton -6-     

    A middle had a chance in the last two minutes but an interception return was fumbled near the 20 yard line and turned back over.

    2)  Edmonton UNDER 51-  W

    Never looked like it could lose

    3)  Winnipeg +4   

    We'll see if the Peggers are contenders or pretenders after tomorrow.

    4)  Sask/Cal OVER 54

    5)  BC/Ham UNDER 55-

    My crystal ball is out gettng repairs, so we'll all have to wait until the games are played before we'll know what happens.

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    Plays this week:

    1)  Montreal +8/Edmonton -6-     

    A middle had a chance in the last two minutes but an interception return was fumbled near the 20 yard line and turned back over.

    2)  Edmonton UNDER 51-  W

    Never looked like it could lose

    3)  Winnipeg +4   

    We'll see if the Peggers are contenders or pretenders after tomorrow.

    4)  Sask/Cal OVER 54

    5)  BC/Ham UNDER 55-

    My crystal ball is out gettng repairs, so we'll all have to wait until the games are played before we'll know what happens.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2016 - 6:51 AM ET #38

    Corection:  I purchased Winnipeg at +3-, NOT 4, as I did not expect the line to go up in that game....that game should read:

    3)  Winnipeg +3-


    Let's hope the 1/2 point doesn't come into play.
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    Corection:  I purchased Winnipeg at +3-, NOT 4, as I did not expect the line to go up in that game....that game should read:

    3)  Winnipeg +3-


    Let's hope the 1/2 point doesn't come into play.
     
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    Correction:  correction is spelled with two "r", not one.....hahaha.
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    Correction:  correction is spelled with two "r", not one.....hahaha.
     
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    1)  Montreal +8/Edmonton-6-  W   L

    2)  Montreal UNDER               W

    3)  Winnipeg +3-                      W

    4)  BC UNDER 55-

    5)  Sask OVER 54 
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    1)  Montreal +8/Edmonton-6-  W   L

    2)  Montreal UNDER               W

    3)  Winnipeg +3-                      W

    4)  BC UNDER 55-

    5)  Sask OVER 54 
     
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    GOOD LUCK
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2016 - 12:40 AM ET #42

    Week 8 3-3 -.30 units ......season 30-10 +18.9 units.

    1)  Montreal +8/Edmonton -6-     L  W

    2)  Monreal UNDER   W

    3)  Winnipeg +3-   W

    4)  Sask OVER   L

    5)  BC  UNDER  L

    Bad week....BC looks great, should be about -3 next week versus Calgary at home.  BC's defense and special teams are by far the best in the league.  Calgary looks stuck in cement compared to the speed and passion of BC.  BC will have to win the turnover battle to beat out BC

    Montreal and Saskatchewan continue to look terrible.  Both need new quarterbacks.  Their defenses looked good, but they have no offense whatsoever.  

    Toronto continues to be fade material at home as a favorite or off a win.

    Hamilton will be fine and should win the east over Ottawa....unless Harris comes back, as Burris looks like he is through.

    Bombers should beat out the Eskimos for third in the West...they look good with Nichols at qb.

    Callaros looked fine first game back,...his line got overwhelmed.  
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    Week 8 3-3 -.30 units ......season 30-10 +18.9 units.

    1)  Montreal +8/Edmonton -6-     L  W

    2)  Monreal UNDER   W

    3)  Winnipeg +3-   W

    4)  Sask OVER   L

    5)  BC  UNDER  L

    Bad week....BC looks great, should be about -3 next week versus Calgary at home.  BC's defense and special teams are by far the best in the league.  Calgary looks stuck in cement compared to the speed and passion of BC.  BC will have to win the turnover battle to beat out BC

    Montreal and Saskatchewan continue to look terrible.  Both need new quarterbacks.  Their defenses looked good, but they have no offense whatsoever.  

    Toronto continues to be fade material at home as a favorite or off a win.

    Hamilton will be fine and should win the east over Ottawa....unless Harris comes back, as Burris looks like he is through.

    Bombers should beat out the Eskimos for third in the West...they look good with Nichols at qb.

    Callaros looked fine first game back,...his line got overwhelmed.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Week 8 3-3 -.30 units ......season 30-10 +18.9 units.
    1)  Montreal +8/Edmonton -6-     L  W

    2)  Monreal UNDER   W

    3)  Winnipeg +3-   W

    4)  Sask OVER   L

    5)  BC  UNDER  L

    Bad week....BC looks great, should be about -3 next week versus Calgary at home.  BC's defense and special teams are by far the best in the league.  Calgary looks stuck in cement compared to the speed and passion of BC.  BC will have to win the turnover battle to beat out BC

    Montreal and Saskatchewan continue to look terrible.  Both need new quarterbacks.  Their defenses looked good, but they have no offense whatsoever.  

    Toronto continues to be fade material at home as a favorite or off a win.

    Hamilton will be fine and should win the east over Ottawa....unless Harris comes back, as Burris looks like he is through.

    Bombers should beat out the Eskimos for third in the West...they look good with Nichols at qb.

    Callaros looked fine first game back,...his line got overwhelmed.  



    you did pretty good with the underdogs bud. 
    insight in the nfl pre season games were a lock and the pick for wpg also helped all of us man impressive! I hope you could post some more wk 2 what are your thoughts on tomorrows nfl game ?


    houston @ san fransico -3.5


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    Week 8 3-3 -.30 units ......season 30-10 +18.9 units.
    1)  Montreal +8/Edmonton -6-     L  W

    2)  Monreal UNDER   W

    3)  Winnipeg +3-   W

    4)  Sask OVER   L

    5)  BC  UNDER  L

    Bad week....BC looks great, should be about -3 next week versus Calgary at home.  BC's defense and special teams are by far the best in the league.  Calgary looks stuck in cement compared to the speed and passion of BC.  BC will have to win the turnover battle to beat out BC

    Montreal and Saskatchewan continue to look terrible.  Both need new quarterbacks.  Their defenses looked good, but they have no offense whatsoever.  

    Toronto continues to be fade material at home as a favorite or off a win.

    Hamilton will be fine and should win the east over Ottawa....unless Harris comes back, as Burris looks like he is through.

    Bombers should beat out the Eskimos for third in the West...they look good with Nichols at qb.

    Callaros looked fine first game back,...his line got overwhelmed.  



    you did pretty good with the underdogs bud. 
    insight in the nfl pre season games were a lock and the pick for wpg also helped all of us man impressive! I hope you could post some more wk 2 what are your thoughts on tomorrows nfl game ?


    houston @ san fransico -3.5


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by spearwell:




    you did pretty good with the underdogs bud. 
    insight in the nfl pre season games were a lock and the pick for wpg also helped all of us man impressive! I hope you could post some more wk 2 what are your thoughts on tomorrows nfl game ?


    houston @ san fransico -3.5  O/U 36.5


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    you did pretty good with the underdogs bud. 
    insight in the nfl pre season games were a lock and the pick for wpg also helped all of us man impressive! I hope you could post some more wk 2 what are your thoughts on tomorrows nfl game ?


    houston @ san fransico -3.5  O/U 36.5


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by spearwell:




    you did pretty good with the underdogs bud. 
    insight in the nfl pre season games were a lock and the pick for wpg also helped all of us man impressive! I hope you could post some more wk 2 what are your thoughts on tomorrows nfl game ?


    houston @ san fransico -3.5  

    shoot me msg via email indigo999 

    dylanpelletier@live.com


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    you did pretty good with the underdogs bud. 
    insight in the nfl pre season games were a lock and the pick for wpg also helped all of us man impressive! I hope you could post some more wk 2 what are your thoughts on tomorrows nfl game ?


    houston @ san fransico -3.5  

    shoot me msg via email indigo999 

    dylanpelletier@live.com


     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2016 - 8:02 AM ET #46

    Spearwell....I don't handicap NFL preseason games.

    I read somewhere that going AGAINST line movement in the NFL preseason is a long term winner.

    The two games yesterday that moved more than 1 point from their opening line.....KC and LA, both lost.   Two days ago Cleveland was also a loser and Minnesota was a winner.

    So, going against a team where the line has moved towards them >=1 point in the NFL preseason is 3-1 so far.

    "The public is often wrong" looks to be true in NFL preseason betting.
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    Spearwell....I don't handicap NFL preseason games.

    I read somewhere that going AGAINST line movement in the NFL preseason is a long term winner.

    The two games yesterday that moved more than 1 point from their opening line.....KC and LA, both lost.   Two days ago Cleveland was also a loser and Minnesota was a winner.

    So, going against a team where the line has moved towards them >=1 point in the NFL preseason is 3-1 so far.

    "The public is often wrong" looks to be true in NFL preseason betting.
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