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    If 70% of you Yahoos are betting UNC why does this line not move?

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    Crashdavis565
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 3:38 PM ET #1

    Someone please answer this question for me. Does the casino not have too much exposure here?  Looks like a no brainer.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Someone please answer this question for me. Does the casino not have too much exposure here?  Looks like a no brainer.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 3:51 PM ET #2

    Not unless someone has a sure fire way to lock down the one arm bandits are the casinos exposed.........If 70% of peeps are on UNC and UNC covers it wont hurt the casinos 1 bit.
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    Not unless someone has a sure fire way to lock down the one arm bandits are the casinos exposed.........If 70% of peeps are on UNC and UNC covers it wont hurt the casinos 1 bit.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 3:54 PM ET #3

    limits r lower until gameday too wait to see what it does tomorroww will go off at 9 is my guess.
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    limits r lower until gameday too wait to see what it does tomorroww will go off at 9 is my guess.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 3:55 PM ET #4

    Oh yes- no argument that the slots make the casino's a bunch of dough.  But the books operate but taking as much money on both sides evenly and taking the juice, why not move this line to even up the 71.7% of people betting that UNC covers?
    Is the smart money on Wash St?
    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!     The books ain't dumb.
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    Oh yes- no argument that the slots make the casino's a bunch of dough.  But the books operate but taking as much money on both sides evenly and taking the juice, why not move this line to even up the 71.7% of people betting that UNC covers?
    Is the smart money on Wash St?
    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!     The books ain't dumb.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 4:02 PM ET #5

    May be but for every game that has 70% on one side go off as a winner the casinos/sportsbook also have 1 game that goes the other way. Joe Public doesnt bet CBB all year then the Tourney rolls around and they jump in head first for all the big names.......UNC Kansas UCLA Memphis..........How much you think Joe Public lost on GT/Davidson the other day????????? I dont know for sure and I know I was on Davidson, but the majority of the betting public was all over GT and they got slaughtered.
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    May be but for every game that has 70% on one side go off as a winner the casinos/sportsbook also have 1 game that goes the other way. Joe Public doesnt bet CBB all year then the Tourney rolls around and they jump in head first for all the big names.......UNC Kansas UCLA Memphis..........How much you think Joe Public lost on GT/Davidson the other day????????? I dont know for sure and I know I was on Davidson, but the majority of the betting public was all over GT and they got slaughtered.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 4:05 PM ET #6

    ggh are you agreeing with him?  it sounds like you both are saying the same thing yet you sound like youre disagreeing with him haha
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    ggh are you agreeing with him?  it sounds like you both are saying the same thing yet you sound like youre disagreeing with him haha
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 4:08 PM ET #7

    LOL no just making the argument that although vegas would rather have even money on both sides that it will all even out in the wash. I too would assume that this game will go off somewhere around 9 and the sides will even up a bit, however if it doesnt vegas probably wont bat an eye at it. just my .02 worth
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    LOL no just making the argument that although vegas would rather have even money on both sides that it will all even out in the wash. I too would assume that this game will go off somewhere around 9 and the sides will even up a bit, however if it doesnt vegas probably wont bat an eye at it. just my .02 worth
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 4:10 PM ET #8

    Look this thing is easy-
    If the casino has exposure at 7-they move it to 8.
    If everyone still bets UNC 9,10,11,12 etc until it evens up.
    Why would they take the risk?  If the line is right, you get 50-50 and take the juice.
    THE POINT IS SOMEONE IS BETTING A LOT OF MONEY ON WASH ST TO COVER THE 71.7% OF PEOPLE LOADING UP ON UNC.
    AGAIN, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
    CRASH-
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    Look this thing is easy-
    If the casino has exposure at 7-they move it to 8.
    If everyone still bets UNC 9,10,11,12 etc until it evens up.
    Why would they take the risk?  If the line is right, you get 50-50 and take the juice.
    THE POINT IS SOMEONE IS BETTING A LOT OF MONEY ON WASH ST TO COVER THE 71.7% OF PEOPLE LOADING UP ON UNC.
    AGAIN, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
    CRASH-
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 4:16 PM ET #9

    i completely agree, crash.

    good luck cuz i may be on it also
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    i completely agree, crash.

    good luck cuz i may be on it also
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 4:17 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

    Look this thing is easy-
    If the casino has exposure at 7-they move it to 8.
    If everyone still bets UNC 9,10,11,12 etc until it evens up.
    Why would they take the risk?  If the line is right, you get 50-50 and take the juice.
    THE POINT IS SOMEONE IS BETTING A LOT OF MONEY ON WASH ST TO COVER THE 71.7% OF PEOPLE LOADING UP ON UNC.
    AGAIN, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
    CRASH-

    I would doubt that alot of money is pouring in on Wash. St., why would the people that do bet alot of money that know this line will move up bet alot of money now when they know by game time they will probably get 8.5 or 9. Im not doubting you are on the right side, as I will probably not play this game anyway, but to say that 71% are on a side and the line isnt moving isnt a good reason IMHO. Happens alot. BOL with your play. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

    Look this thing is easy-
    If the casino has exposure at 7-they move it to 8.
    If everyone still bets UNC 9,10,11,12 etc until it evens up.
    Why would they take the risk?  If the line is right, you get 50-50 and take the juice.
    THE POINT IS SOMEONE IS BETTING A LOT OF MONEY ON WASH ST TO COVER THE 71.7% OF PEOPLE LOADING UP ON UNC.
    AGAIN, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
    CRASH-

    I would doubt that alot of money is pouring in on Wash. St., why would the people that do bet alot of money that know this line will move up bet alot of money now when they know by game time they will probably get 8.5 or 9. Im not doubting you are on the right side, as I will probably not play this game anyway, but to say that 71% are on a side and the line isnt moving isnt a good reason IMHO. Happens alot. BOL with your play. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 4:18 PM ET #11

    i hear what youre saying crash its a valid point and will be taken into consideration gl as it is wash st or nothing for me in this game.
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    i hear what youre saying crash its a valid point and will be taken into consideration gl as it is wash st or nothing for me in this game.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 4:28 PM ET #12

    i think you will see late ''smart'' money if you will pour into unc
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    i think you will see late ''smart'' money if you will pour into unc
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 5:10 PM ET #13

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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 6:54 PM ET #14

    Thanks for all  the posts-
    I am going to play the contrarian angle and see if I cannot get 9 at gametime.
    Best of luck all.
    Crash
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    Thanks for all  the posts-
    I am going to play the contrarian angle and see if I cannot get 9 at gametime.
    Best of luck all.
    Crash
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 8:34 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by strattonoakmont:

    i think you will see late ''smart'' money if you will pour into unc


    Wrong.  Smart money is already on UNC -7.5/8.  Smart money isn't betting UNC -9 tomorrow when better was available for days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strattonoakmont:

    i think you will see late ''smart'' money if you will pour into unc


    Wrong.  Smart money is already on UNC -7.5/8.  Smart money isn't betting UNC -9 tomorrow when better was available for days.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 9:45 PM ET #16

    depeche and stratton,
    smart money on public chalk
     
    please don't misinform people and talk about smart money being on one side or another when you clearly have no clue.
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    depeche and stratton,
    smart money on public chalk
     
    please don't misinform people and talk about smart money being on one side or another when you clearly have no clue.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 9:46 PM ET #17

    Its not % its . Period.
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    Its not % its . Period.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 9:55 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    Wrong.  Smart money is already on UNC -7.5/8.  Smart money isn't betting UNC -9 tomorrow when better was available for days.
      pardon me, what i should have said was if you didnt get it early at 8 or so,imo by game time i think it will be at 10 or so ,just my thoughts, isee it going up  not down. as far as the word smart , i put it  in quotes on purpose to make light of the use of the word,if you had a brain smokey the bear you might have noticed the sarcasm. you obviously think you are superior but the fact that i had to explain this to you tells me all i need
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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    Wrong.  Smart money is already on UNC -7.5/8.  Smart money isn't betting UNC -9 tomorrow when better was available for days.
      pardon me, what i should have said was if you didnt get it early at 8 or so,imo by game time i think it will be at 10 or so ,just my thoughts, isee it going up  not down. as far as the word smart , i put it  in quotes on purpose to make light of the use of the word,if you had a brain smokey the bear you might have noticed the sarcasm. you obviously think you are superior but the fact that i had to explain this to you tells me all i need
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 9:55 PM ET #19

    Just because 70% of the public is on UNC doesn't mean 70% of the money is. Books don't care how many people bet on each team, they just want the money to be even. If 1,000 people place $20 bets on UNC, and 10 people place $2,000 on Wash St the money is still even despite the public being on UNC heavily.

    As for the smart money being on UNC, that's completely wrong. Smart money would never be on a big name program laying 8 points in a neutral site game.
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    Just because 70% of the public is on UNC doesn't mean 70% of the money is. Books don't care how many people bet on each team, they just want the money to be even. If 1,000 people place $20 bets on UNC, and 10 people place $2,000 on Wash St the money is still even despite the public being on UNC heavily.

    As for the smart money being on UNC, that's completely wrong. Smart money would never be on a big name program laying 8 points in a neutral site game.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 9:59 PM ET #20

    Chase
    Raleigh is not NEUTRAL SITE
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    Chase
    Raleigh is not NEUTRAL SITE
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 9:59 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by strattonoakmont:

      pardon me, what i should have said was if you didnt get it early at 8 or so,imo by game time i think it will be at 10 or so ,just my thoughts, isee it going up  not down. as far as the word smart , i put it  in quotes on purpose to make light of the use of the word,if you had a brain smokey the bear you might have noticed the sarcasm. you obviously think you are superior but the fact that i had to explain this to you tells me all i need

    See no way this gets to 10............not a chance
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    Quote Originally Posted by strattonoakmont:

      pardon me, what i should have said was if you didnt get it early at 8 or so,imo by game time i think it will be at 10 or so ,just my thoughts, isee it going up  not down. as far as the word smart , i put it  in quotes on purpose to make light of the use of the word,if you had a brain smokey the bear you might have noticed the sarcasm. you obviously think you are superior but the fact that i had to explain this to you tells me all i need

    See no way this gets to 10............not a chance
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 10:00 PM ET #22

    good point mj, the farthest thing from it
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    good point mj, the farthest thing from it
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 10:04 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by -Chase-:

    Just because 70% of the public is on UNC doesn't mean 70% of the money is. Books don't care how many people bet on each team, they just want the money to be even. If 1,000 people place $20 bets on UNC, and 10 people place $2,000 on Wash St the money is still even despite the public being on UNC heavily.

    As for the smart money being on UNC, that's completely wrong. Smart money would never be on a big name program laying 8 points in a neutral site game.


    well-put chase...i just don't think i can bite my nails the entire game worrying about each possible run UNC can go on, as well as their great FT shooting despite Wazzu looking like the correct angle for this one

    good luck with your plays everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Chase-:

    Just because 70% of the public is on UNC doesn't mean 70% of the money is. Books don't care how many people bet on each team, they just want the money to be even. If 1,000 people place $20 bets on UNC, and 10 people place $2,000 on Wash St the money is still even despite the public being on UNC heavily.

    As for the smart money being on UNC, that's completely wrong. Smart money would never be on a big name program laying 8 points in a neutral site game.


    well-put chase...i just don't think i can bite my nails the entire game worrying about each possible run UNC can go on, as well as their great FT shooting despite Wazzu looking like the correct angle for this one

    good luck with your plays everyone
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2008 - 10:05 PM ET #24

    you might be right ggh, just my thought. although with my local every one will be on unc so i wouldnt rule it out on my end
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    you might be right ggh, just my thought. although with my local every one will be on unc so i wouldnt rule it out on my end
     
     
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    Wast St. is the right play IMHO not just because the public is all over UNC.  Wash St. will play their type of game and slow down the UNC O.  This will be a closer game than most people think and it should go under as well.  Goodluck
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    Wast St. is the right play IMHO not just because the public is all over UNC.  Wash St. will play their type of game and slow down the UNC O.  This will be a closer game than most people think and it should go under as well.  Goodluck
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