I love betting the diciplined teams, especially in their own enviornment. Coach O'Brien now has "his" guys that he and his staff recruited on the field and playing OB style football. Sleeper this year IMO.
BOL all on this one. Just waiting for the best value at this point since I missed out on the early +1.
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I love betting the diciplined teams, especially in their own enviornment. Coach O'Brien now has "his" guys that he and his staff recruited on the field and playing OB style football. Sleeper this year IMO.
BOL all on this one. Just waiting for the best value at this point since I missed out on the early +1.
GL RM ..Im leaning NC ST, and have been since I started looking at this week! Im trying to find a solid reason to NOT go with the home team! Hoping a late money move will go that way?
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GL RM ..Im leaning NC ST, and have been since I started looking at this week! Im trying to find a solid reason to NOT go with the home team! Hoping a late money move will go that way?
i like Cinncy. We have the line movement in this game similar to Aub, Va Tech, Byu were the team that started out as the fav and ended up as the dog won outright!
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i like Cinncy. We have the line movement in this game similar to Aub, Va Tech, Byu were the team that started out as the fav and ended up as the dog won outright!
i like Cinncy. We have the line movement in this game similar to Aub, Va Tech, Byu were the team that started out as the fav and ended up as the dog won outright!
And both NFL Pitt games. But one college game did have same move and then original underdog won but you are right. The line is not gonna favor Iowa for no reason.
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Quote Originally Posted by Professional1:
i like Cinncy. We have the line movement in this game similar to Aub, Va Tech, Byu were the team that started out as the fav and ended up as the dog won outright!
And both NFL Pitt games. But one college game did have same move and then original underdog won but you are right. The line is not gonna favor Iowa for no reason.
I don't know what some of you guys are talking about. NC St played like shit last week. UCF lost the turnover battle 5-0, handed them 21 pts off turnovers, and still had a chance to tie in the last minute.
Leaning Cincy here, but probably won't play this game.
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I don't know what some of you guys are talking about. NC St played like shit last week. UCF lost the turnover battle 5-0, handed them 21 pts off turnovers, and still had a chance to tie in the last minute.
Leaning Cincy here, but probably won't play this game.
Why would the line start off as NC State as underdogs if they are so good?
Fair question, but obviously they realized adjustments had to be made (whether it was for a rainfall of big bets or realization they were off to begin with) But then again, can't put it past Vegas to play a few mind games or dangle a few hooks...
Also, Cincinatti's RB Pead is listed as questionable and did not practice all week. I wouldn't say this would have caused the line movement, but may have had some affect. IMO just another reason to play NC State here.
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Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
Why would the line start off as NC State as underdogs if they are so good?
Fair question, but obviously they realized adjustments had to be made (whether it was for a rainfall of big bets or realization they were off to begin with) But then again, can't put it past Vegas to play a few mind games or dangle a few hooks...
Also, Cincinatti's RB Pead is listed as questionable and did not practice all week. I wouldn't say this would have caused the line movement, but may have had some affect. IMO just another reason to play NC State here.
I don't know what some of you guys are talking about. NC St played like shit last week. UCF lost the turnover battle 5-0, handed them 21 pts off turnovers, and still had a chance to tie in the last minute.
Leaning Cincy here, but probably won't play this game.
NC State did a good job creating TO's as well, and like I mentioned earlier, NC State takes care of the ball when they have it (0 TO's), both reasons to like them here, not shy away, especially up against a team that has a bad case of fumble-itis couging it up 6 times (losing 3 of them) in 2 games.
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Quote Originally Posted by vxkens:
I don't know what some of you guys are talking about. NC St played like shit last week. UCF lost the turnover battle 5-0, handed them 21 pts off turnovers, and still had a chance to tie in the last minute.
Leaning Cincy here, but probably won't play this game.
NC State did a good job creating TO's as well, and like I mentioned earlier, NC State takes care of the ball when they have it (0 TO's), both reasons to like them here, not shy away, especially up against a team that has a bad case of fumble-itis couging it up 6 times (losing 3 of them) in 2 games.
Fair question, but obviously they realized adjustments had to be made (whether it was for a rainfall of big bets or realization they were off to begin with) But then again, can't put it past Vegas to play a few mind games or dangle a few hooks...
Also, Cincinatti's RB Pead is listed as questionable and did not practice all week. I wouldn't say this would have caused the line movement, but may have had some affect. IMO just another reason to play NC State here.
The RB questionability might have driven bettors to pick NC and might have driven the line but I doubt the situation of an injured RB had any affect on the opening line since the linesmakers seem to know everything before it happens and set the lines accordingly. If the RB was a big variable and the linesmakers didn't know what was going on then I'm sure they wouldn't put out a line until they got concrete info. I'm guessing but that's what sounds sensible to me.
Is it possible that the linesmakers feel that Cinc is the better team but bettors feel otherwise and the line reflects that? If so then you would think Cinc is still the favored team even though they are getting points.
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Quote Originally Posted by RMcCarthy1:
Fair question, but obviously they realized adjustments had to be made (whether it was for a rainfall of big bets or realization they were off to begin with) But then again, can't put it past Vegas to play a few mind games or dangle a few hooks...
Also, Cincinatti's RB Pead is listed as questionable and did not practice all week. I wouldn't say this would have caused the line movement, but may have had some affect. IMO just another reason to play NC State here.
The RB questionability might have driven bettors to pick NC and might have driven the line but I doubt the situation of an injured RB had any affect on the opening line since the linesmakers seem to know everything before it happens and set the lines accordingly. If the RB was a big variable and the linesmakers didn't know what was going on then I'm sure they wouldn't put out a line until they got concrete info. I'm guessing but that's what sounds sensible to me.
Is it possible that the linesmakers feel that Cinc is the better team but bettors feel otherwise and the line reflects that? If so then you would think Cinc is still the favored team even though they are getting points.
Really like the Cincy QB Collaros... Havent seen him yet this year but was really impressed by him last year when he was in for Pike.. No input on this game for me really.
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Really like the Cincy QB Collaros... Havent seen him yet this year but was really impressed by him last year when he was in for Pike.. No input on this game for me really.
Really like the Cincy QB Collaros... Havent seen him yet this year but was really impressed by him last year when he was in for Pike.. No input on this game for me really.
SpecialK makes some good pointsin his thread in regards to Collaros potentially giving NC State some problems, as Central Florida did when they went to thier scrambler in the 2nd half. However, with the week to prepare for Collaros (and no need to prepare for 2 QBs this week) I feel O'Brien will have his troops ready, and I also feel NCState will game changing TO's. Time will tell....
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Quote Originally Posted by 4thandGoal:
Really like the Cincy QB Collaros... Havent seen him yet this year but was really impressed by him last year when he was in for Pike.. No input on this game for me really.
SpecialK makes some good pointsin his thread in regards to Collaros potentially giving NC State some problems, as Central Florida did when they went to thier scrambler in the 2nd half. However, with the week to prepare for Collaros (and no need to prepare for 2 QBs this week) I feel O'Brien will have his troops ready, and I also feel NCState will game changing TO's. Time will tell....
The RB questionability might have driven bettors to pick NC and might have driven the line but I doubt the situation of an injured RB had any affect on the opening line since the linesmakers seem to know everything before it happens and set the lines accordingly. If the RB was a big variable and the linesmakers didn't know what was going on then I'm sure they wouldn't put out a line until they got concrete info. I'm guessing but that's what sounds sensible to me.
Is it possible that the linesmakers feel that Cinc is the better team but bettors feel otherwise and the line reflects that? If so then you would think Cinc is still the favored team even though they are getting points.
Is it possible that the linesmakers feel that Cinc is the better team
but bettors feel otherwise and the line reflects that? If so then you
would think Cinc is still the favored team even though they are getting
points.
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Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:
The RB questionability might have driven bettors to pick NC and might have driven the line but I doubt the situation of an injured RB had any affect on the opening line since the linesmakers seem to know everything before it happens and set the lines accordingly. If the RB was a big variable and the linesmakers didn't know what was going on then I'm sure they wouldn't put out a line until they got concrete info. I'm guessing but that's what sounds sensible to me.
Is it possible that the linesmakers feel that Cinc is the better team but bettors feel otherwise and the line reflects that? If so then you would think Cinc is still the favored team even though they are getting points.
Is it possible that the linesmakers feel that Cinc is the better team
but bettors feel otherwise and the line reflects that? If so then you
would think Cinc is still the favored team even though they are getting
points.
Teams traveling to complete climate changes have struggled. (i.e. Miami at Ohio State, Florida State at Oklahoma, and Cincinnati at Fresno State. The only one I saw cover in that scenario was Hawaii at Army.
The weather in Raleigh will be around 93 (80 expected at game time) with 76% humidity throughout the day where Cincinnati was around 80 and dry most of the week.
Only concern, which has been documented, is NC State coming back from playing in a humid game and playing the short turn around.
Also the favorite is 2-0 ATS (Ohio Stae v. Marshall/Auburn v. Miss. St.)on 745pm ESPN games. Last year they were like 10-3 or something like that.
Like NC State to cover 24-20.
Also like Kansas and California on Friday.
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Just a few things to think about.
Cincinnati has not scored any 4th quarter points.
Only 26 first half points overall.
28 third quarter pts came against Indiana St.
Teams traveling to complete climate changes have struggled. (i.e. Miami at Ohio State, Florida State at Oklahoma, and Cincinnati at Fresno State. The only one I saw cover in that scenario was Hawaii at Army.
The weather in Raleigh will be around 93 (80 expected at game time) with 76% humidity throughout the day where Cincinnati was around 80 and dry most of the week.
Only concern, which has been documented, is NC State coming back from playing in a humid game and playing the short turn around.
Also the favorite is 2-0 ATS (Ohio Stae v. Marshall/Auburn v. Miss. St.)on 745pm ESPN games. Last year they were like 10-3 or something like that.
Teams traveling to complete climate changes have struggled. (i.e. Miami at Ohio State, Florida State at Oklahoma, and Cincinnati at Fresno State. The only one I saw cover in that scenario was Hawaii at Army.
The weather in Raleigh will be around 93 (80 expected at game time) with 76% humidity throughout the day where Cincinnati was around 80 and dry most of the week.
Only concern, which has been documented, is NC State coming back from playing in a humid game and playing the short turn around.
Also the favorite is 2-0 ATS (Ohio Stae v. Marshall/Auburn v. Miss. St.)on 745pm ESPN games. Last year they were like 10-3 or something like that.
UC plays its first three games in a 12-day span and only two games over the next 24 days, including having nine days to prepare for Oklahoma on Sept. 25. So, any concerns about a short turnaround for NC State in the humidity should easily be washed out by this fact.
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Quote Originally Posted by jwgroves1:
Teams traveling to complete climate changes have struggled. (i.e. Miami at Ohio State, Florida State at Oklahoma, and Cincinnati at Fresno State. The only one I saw cover in that scenario was Hawaii at Army.
The weather in Raleigh will be around 93 (80 expected at game time) with 76% humidity throughout the day where Cincinnati was around 80 and dry most of the week.
Only concern, which has been documented, is NC State coming back from playing in a humid game and playing the short turn around.
Also the favorite is 2-0 ATS (Ohio Stae v. Marshall/Auburn v. Miss. St.)on 745pm ESPN games. Last year they were like 10-3 or something like that.
UC plays its first three games in a 12-day span and only two games over the next 24 days, including having nine days to prepare for Oklahoma on Sept. 25. So, any concerns about a short turnaround for NC State in the humidity should easily be washed out by this fact.
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