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    Welcoming the new 2008-2009 NFL season
     
    2008 preseason record : 0-0
     
    To all who post , view , and contribute on this forum
    best of luck for this upcoming season ...
     
    I stayed away from HOF game and yesterday I dove in
    with a package bet taking all dogs and all unders...
    With my lines that got me a 7-3 .
     
    I am not going to post 10 picks and not going to take credit for unposted picks either .
     My strongest pick would have been Kansas City even coming in with an 0-8 SU & ATS record , it was clear by Herm Edwards statement that the emphasis would be there this year to win in the preseason given the terrible start from last year ...
    It took a final drive after squandering the lead , but KC got its victory nevertheless .
    KC  wanted it more than the Bears in the end .
     
    Chiefs to increase starters' repetitions | Kansas.com
    why mention this ?
     
    because trends are only part of the picture , though I use them extensively during preseason.
     
    Week 1 preseason trends show a bias towards the Underdog and also towards the Under . 
     
    Underdogs have a solid 90-67 overall mark (57%) in week one ( from 2 min warning )
     
    Also from same location ...we have the following applicable trends
    I used to some degree last year for a succesful preseason campaign...
    1. Home underdogs are 77-49 (61%)
    2. Home teams off less than 10 win years as favorites against prior year Good teams are just 32-54 (37%)
    3. Home underdogs versus a "non prior year Good team" are 38-20 (66%)
    4. In Week one, POOR prior season teams are 11-20 against the spread at home against POOR or AVERAGE away teams

     

     

     
     
     
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    Welcoming the new 2008-2009 NFL season
     
    2008 preseason record : 0-0
     
    To all who post , view , and contribute on this forum
    best of luck for this upcoming season ...
     
    I stayed away from HOF game and yesterday I dove in
    with a package bet taking all dogs and all unders...
    With my lines that got me a 7-3 .
     
    I am not going to post 10 picks and not going to take credit for unposted picks either .
     My strongest pick would have been Kansas City even coming in with an 0-8 SU & ATS record , it was clear by Herm Edwards statement that the emphasis would be there this year to win in the preseason given the terrible start from last year ...
    It took a final drive after squandering the lead , but KC got its victory nevertheless .
    KC  wanted it more than the Bears in the end .
     
    Chiefs to increase starters' repetitions | Kansas.com
    why mention this ?
     
    because trends are only part of the picture , though I use them extensively during preseason.
     
    Week 1 preseason trends show a bias towards the Underdog and also towards the Under . 
     
    Underdogs have a solid 90-67 overall mark (57%) in week one ( from 2 min warning )
     
    Also from same location ...we have the following applicable trends
    I used to some degree last year for a succesful preseason campaign...
    1. Home underdogs are 77-49 (61%)
    2. Home teams off less than 10 win years as favorites against prior year Good teams are just 32-54 (37%)
    3. Home underdogs versus a "non prior year Good team" are 38-20 (66%)
    4. In Week one, POOR prior season teams are 11-20 against the spread at home against POOR or AVERAGE away teams

     

     

     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2008 - 7:04 PM ET #2

    Preseason Games from 1997 to 2007

    Category
    Won-Lost (ATS)
    Win%
    Home Teams
    326-341
    48.9%
    Home Favorites
    249-292
    46.0%
    Home Favorites of -1 to -2.5
    54-55
    49%
    Home Favorites of -3
    62-76
    45%
    Home Favorites of -3.5 to -6.5
    119-139
    46%
    Home Favorites of -7 or more
    14-22
    39%
    Home Underdogs
    77-49
    61.1%
    Home Underdogs of +0 to +2.5
    37-28
    57%
    Home Underdogs of +3
    21-8
    72%
    Home Underdogs of +3.5 or more
    19-13
    59%

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    Preseason Games from 1997 to 2007

    Category
    Won-Lost (ATS)
    Win%
    Home Teams
    326-341
    48.9%
    Home Favorites
    249-292
    46.0%
    Home Favorites of -1 to -2.5
    54-55
    49%
    Home Favorites of -3
    62-76
    45%
    Home Favorites of -3.5 to -6.5
    119-139
    46%
    Home Favorites of -7 or more
    14-22
    39%
    Home Underdogs
    77-49
    61.1%
    Home Underdogs of +0 to +2.5
    37-28
    57%
    Home Underdogs of +3
    21-8
    72%
    Home Underdogs of +3.5 or more
    19-13
    59%

     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2008 - 7:08 PM ET #3

    an explanation from 2 min warning of what constitutes poor, average , or good teams :
     
    • Good -- teams with a 10 or more wins in the prior regular season
    • Average -- teams with 7 to 9 wins
    • Poor -- teams with less than 7 wins
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    an explanation from 2 min warning of what constitutes poor, average , or good teams :
     
    • Good -- teams with a 10 or more wins in the prior regular season
    • Average -- teams with 7 to 9 wins
    • Poor -- teams with less than 7 wins
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2008 - 7:10 PM ET #4

    Roberto--
     
    Great to see around these parts.
     
    Good Luck this season.
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    Great to see around these parts.
     
    Good Luck this season.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2008 - 7:11 PM ET #5

    Nice work Roberto.......It's great to see all the great cappers back this season...I am looking forward to a great year for all of.......Looking forward to viewing your research as well........

    Maybe you can hit that hot streak again.....GL BRO

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    Nice work Roberto.......It's great to see all the great cappers back this season...I am looking forward to a great year for all of.......Looking forward to viewing your research as well........

    Maybe you can hit that hot streak again.....GL BRO

     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2008 - 7:15 PM ET #6

    The best stats/trends capper in the business....
     
     
     
     On what I know will be yet another solid year.
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    The best stats/trends capper in the business....
     
     
     
     On what I know will be yet another solid year.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2008 - 7:19 PM ET #7

    Good to have you back roberto!
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    Good to have you back roberto!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2008 - 7:26 PM ET #8

    Thanks ...
    Now regarding the Philadelphia- pittsburgh game >>
    results from last preseason for Pitt >>

    Pre-Season

    Thursday 08/30/07 @ Carolina W 19-3 Pre-Week 4 W 3 U 34
    Sunday Night 08/26/07 Philadelphia W 27-13 Pre-Week 3 W -3 O 35
    Saturday 08/18/07 @ Washington W 12-10 Pre-Week 2 L -2.5 U 33
    Saturday 08/11/07 Green Bay L 9-13 Pre-Week 1 L -6 U 34
    Sunday Night 08/05/07 New Orleans W 20-7 Pre-Week HOF W -3 U 33.5
    The Under has gone 8-1 over past 2 years for the Steelers and did not give up more than 16 points in all 5 games ...though ironically it was against Philadelphia where the game went over ...Philadelphia did go over 3 out of 4 last year , but went 4 out of five to the Under prior year ..
     
    Over all when the  line is 33.5 coming in to this preseason we have 6-10 to the Under and 1-5 more recntly
     
    Woth making a play on the Under for 1 unit
    so it is :
     
     Pitt- Phil UNDER 33.5 ( 1 unit )
     
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    Thanks ...
    Now regarding the Philadelphia- pittsburgh game >>
    results from last preseason for Pitt >>

    Pre-Season

    Thursday 08/30/07 @ Carolina W 19-3 Pre-Week 4 W 3 U 34
    Sunday Night 08/26/07 Philadelphia W 27-13 Pre-Week 3 W -3 O 35
    Saturday 08/18/07 @ Washington W 12-10 Pre-Week 2 L -2.5 U 33
    Saturday 08/11/07 Green Bay L 9-13 Pre-Week 1 L -6 U 34
    Sunday Night 08/05/07 New Orleans W 20-7 Pre-Week HOF W -3 U 33.5
    The Under has gone 8-1 over past 2 years for the Steelers and did not give up more than 16 points in all 5 games ...though ironically it was against Philadelphia where the game went over ...Philadelphia did go over 3 out of 4 last year , but went 4 out of five to the Under prior year ..
     
    Over all when the  line is 33.5 coming in to this preseason we have 6-10 to the Under and 1-5 more recntly
     
    Woth making a play on the Under for 1 unit
    so it is :
     
     Pitt- Phil UNDER 33.5 ( 1 unit )
     
     
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    Actually , Pittsburgh ( I correct ) did not give up more than 13 points in those 5 games .
     
    Anyways ,  first official play is on the UNDER 33.5 ( 1 unit )
     
    Good luck...
    thanks OnslaughtZ, WussieMan, jlb442, PINNACLE
    and future posters !
     
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    Actually , Pittsburgh ( I correct ) did not give up more than 13 points in those 5 games .
     
    Anyways ,  first official play is on the UNDER 33.5 ( 1 unit )
     
    Good luck...
    thanks OnslaughtZ, WussieMan, jlb442, PINNACLE
    and future posters !
     
     
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    GL Roberto!!!
     
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    All the best in the upcoming season Roberto and good to see you posting again
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    All the best in the upcoming season Roberto and good to see you posting again
     
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    BOL this season
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    good to see you back love those trends very good stat guy
     
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    good to see you back love those trends very good stat guy
     
     
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    on the SF-Oak game ...
    lots of expectations that the new offense of Mike Martz will result in tons of passing by the battling quarterbacks and result in more points .
    I see more of a conservatice approach to minimize mistakes and turnovers as these will be more telling of who gets to be the 49ers starting QB in the regular season .
    Does anyone really think  it will be none other than Alex Smith in the end ?  
    As for Oakland , I expect a good dose of running all day ...and
    the defenses rule the day .
     
    SF - Oak Under 34 ( 1 unit )
     
     
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    on the SF-Oak game ...
    lots of expectations that the new offense of Mike Martz will result in tons of passing by the battling quarterbacks and result in more points .
    I see more of a conservatice approach to minimize mistakes and turnovers as these will be more telling of who gets to be the 49ers starting QB in the regular season .
    Does anyone really think  it will be none other than Alex Smith in the end ?  
    As for Oakland , I expect a good dose of running all day ...and
    the defenses rule the day .
     
    SF - Oak Under 34 ( 1 unit )
     
     
     
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    Never a doubt. Thank for the free money. I owe you one...

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    andarmac99 ,  WussieMan
     
    First pick held up today ...and the SF - Oak Under 34 is pending...
    As for tomorrow , nothing certain , though Tampa Bay and Dallas are in the mix ...I also need closer look at the totals for Sat games.
    I may not have a chance to post ...
    Regardless , I hope you all have a good weekend ...
     
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    First pick held up today ...and the SF - Oak Under 34 is pending...
    As for tomorrow , nothing certain , though Tampa Bay and Dallas are in the mix ...I also need closer look at the totals for Sat games.
    I may not have a chance to post ...
    Regardless , I hope you all have a good weekend ...
     
     
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    Robert i hope you get time to post tomorrow as my luck has been horrible this week and your leans are better than my best cappping at the moment/

    thanks for tonights insights

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    Robert i hope you get time to post tomorrow as my luck has been horrible this week and your leans are better than my best cappping at the moment/

    thanks for tonights insights

     
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    Final scores :
     
    Pittsburgh 16 Philadelphia 10  Under 33.5 
    Oakland 18 San Francisco 6  Under 34     
     
    Good night ...
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    Final scores :
     
    Pittsburgh 16 Philadelphia 10  Under 33.5 
    Oakland 18 San Francisco 6  Under 34     
     
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    good stuff.
     
     
    get at em bro.
     
    best to ya this season.
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    good stuff.
     
     
    get at em bro.
     
    best to ya this season.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2008 - 3:54 AM ET #23

    I will lick your balls if you win another tomorrow night. LOL
     
    Good job stud
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    I will lick your balls if you win another tomorrow night. LOL
     
    Good job stud
     
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    Great info as always RF, glad you hit those 2 Unders.
     
     
     
    Look forward to your insight this year. 
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