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    Mich. St at Oregon

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    UNIMAN
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2014 - 9:44 PM ET #1

    Greetings all, just found this nice forum. Consider myself a rookie. You won't get any "locks", "sure bets", or "easy money" from me. I'm not that green! 

    Looking at the Mich St @ Oregon matchup. Golden Nugget opened with Ducks -13. Should be an intresting contest. Early season home game for the Ducks has me leaning their way. Expect spread to rise. Thoughts?

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Greetings all, just found this nice forum. Consider myself a rookie. You won't get any "locks", "sure bets", or "easy money" from me. I'm not that green! 

    Looking at the Mich St @ Oregon matchup. Golden Nugget opened with Ducks -13. Should be an intresting contest. Early season home game for the Ducks has me leaning their way. Expect spread to rise. Thoughts?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2014 - 9:47 PM ET #2

    If you hAve a donbest mobile app for 50$ a month you can follow instant line moves with a lot of books. We're not that far away to. That line can sky rocket or go down
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    If you hAve a donbest mobile app for 50$ a month you can follow instant line moves with a lot of books. We're not that far away to. That line can sky rocket or go down
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2014 - 9:50 PM ET #3

    I don't expect the spread to rise. You might be right liking the ducks, but you need to imagine what the general public thinks about the game. Michigan st went 13-1 last year and beat Stanford who won the pac-12 and beat oregon. That's not sharp analysis on my part lol, but many bettors take a simple approach like that.
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    I don't expect the spread to rise. You might be right liking the ducks, but you need to imagine what the general public thinks about the game. Michigan st went 13-1 last year and beat Stanford who won the pac-12 and beat oregon. That's not sharp analysis on my part lol, but many bettors take a simple approach like that.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2014 - 10:16 PM ET #4

    This game scares me a little. Ducks have gained 30+ pounds this season across the line to get ready specifically for this game. I guess they are tired of getting pushed around. That line will drop in favor of Michigan St IMO. Possibly most physical game for the ducks all season, besides UCLA.

    OSU, NEB, and IND put up 24+ points on Mich St last year, I think Oregon can put up more.
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    This game scares me a little. Ducks have gained 30+ pounds this season across the line to get ready specifically for this game. I guess they are tired of getting pushed around. That line will drop in favor of Michigan St IMO. Possibly most physical game for the ducks all season, besides UCLA.

    OSU, NEB, and IND put up 24+ points on Mich St last year, I think Oregon can put up more.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2014 - 11:15 PM ET #5

    Even tho' St. was 4 points away from an undefeated season last year..I like Ore.

    Ducks are going to want to make a statement with this game.

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    Even tho' St. was 4 points away from an undefeated season last year..I like Ore.

    Ducks are going to want to make a statement with this game.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2014 - 2:36 AM ET #6

    i like the seniment on the ducks...if you guys look, mich st. was not that highly regarded early in the season in 2013.   Now, just because they manhandled stanford, with a month to prepare, everyone thinks they are world beaters...



    Mich St has lost a lot on D over the offseason.   With Oregon's Mariota as the Heisman favorite and potential #1 draft pick, I think the Ducks will want to TCB at Auzen in week 2.

    peace

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    i like the seniment on the ducks...if you guys look, mich st. was not that highly regarded early in the season in 2013.   Now, just because they manhandled stanford, with a month to prepare, everyone thinks they are world beaters...



    Mich St has lost a lot on D over the offseason.   With Oregon's Mariota as the Heisman favorite and potential #1 draft pick, I think the Ducks will want to TCB at Auzen in week 2.

    peace

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2014 - 1:38 PM ET #7

    If this gets to 14.5 or 14, I'll likely make a play on MSU.  Still looking into this matchup, but 14+ is a lot to cover here.  UO needs to be balanced on offense and the returning WR experience is light with the Addison ACL injury.  Even with a highly regarded O-line returning, I don't see UO running over the Spartans D without some decent passing game numbers as well. This part of the matchup is intriguing.  MSU also with solid returnees in the kicking game.  Will try to make UO put together long drives.
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    If this gets to 14.5 or 14, I'll likely make a play on MSU.  Still looking into this matchup, but 14+ is a lot to cover here.  UO needs to be balanced on offense and the returning WR experience is light with the Addison ACL injury.  Even with a highly regarded O-line returning, I don't see UO running over the Spartans D without some decent passing game numbers as well. This part of the matchup is intriguing.  MSU also with solid returnees in the kicking game.  Will try to make UO put together long drives.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2014 - 4:16 PM ET #8

    if oregon O have any amount of success they will kill michigan st.....I don't trust mstate offense at all 
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    if oregon O have any amount of success they will kill michigan st.....I don't trust mstate offense at all 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2014 - 6:26 PM ET #9

    Even at +14.5 I wouldn't take St..

    Oregon's one of those teams that will mess around and still be explosive late in the 4th quarter when they already have a decent lead.

    Not like the B10 teams who will smash you in the mouth trying to eat up the clock and protect their lead.

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    Even at +14.5 I wouldn't take St..

    Oregon's one of those teams that will mess around and still be explosive late in the 4th quarter when they already have a decent lead.

    Not like the B10 teams who will smash you in the mouth trying to eat up the clock and protect their lead.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2014 - 7:35 PM ET #10

    This will be a very interesting game featuring the BIG10 champs on the road at Oregon
    Physical vs Finesse
    -An argument could be made for both sides, but this thread is very one-sided. don't disrespect the champs because you never know. 
    -You guys at like the Spartans never seen a running QB before.
    -I wanna see this duck offense without RB Thomas for once.
    NO PLAY for me,
     but if i had to chose, i will side with DD road dogg and Rose Bowl champs from East Lancing, MI
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    This will be a very interesting game featuring the BIG10 champs on the road at Oregon
    Physical vs Finesse
    -An argument could be made for both sides, but this thread is very one-sided. don't disrespect the champs because you never know. 
    -You guys at like the Spartans never seen a running QB before.
    -I wanna see this duck offense without RB Thomas for once.
    NO PLAY for me,
     but if i had to chose, i will side with DD road dogg and Rose Bowl champs from East Lancing, MI
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2014 - 9:23 PM ET #11

    This game will pose alot of trouble for MSU. The speed of Oregon is tough to deal with and I see them moving the ball easily in this game. MSU lost alot of good players on D and I think theyll be gassed from the uptempo. Lay the pts
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    This game will pose alot of trouble for MSU. The speed of Oregon is tough to deal with and I see them moving the ball easily in this game. MSU lost alot of good players on D and I think theyll be gassed from the uptempo. Lay the pts
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2014 - 10:51 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by MrManning:

    This game will pose alot of trouble for MSU. The speed of Oregon is tough to deal with and I see them moving the ball easily in this game. MSU lost alot of good players on D and I think theyll be gassed from the uptempo. Lay the pts


    MSU's D is as physical or more physical than Stanford's and the Cardinal have owned Oregon recently

    Don't think MSU wins outright, but 14, with that D and an O that returns basically everyone, is too many points

    I expect this line to be closer to 8-9 in September
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrManning:

    This game will pose alot of trouble for MSU. The speed of Oregon is tough to deal with and I see them moving the ball easily in this game. MSU lost alot of good players on D and I think theyll be gassed from the uptempo. Lay the pts


    MSU's D is as physical or more physical than Stanford's and the Cardinal have owned Oregon recently

    Don't think MSU wins outright, but 14, with that D and an O that returns basically everyone, is too many points

    I expect this line to be closer to 8-9 in September
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2014 - 11:10 PM ET #13

    Love Mich St at plus 2 touchdowns.  Like SatNight said, even though their D loses a some good players, they're still gonna put out a good defense and are very physical.  Offense returns almost everyone. Oregon struggled a lot down the stretch last year and I'm not sold on their coach Helfrich.  Don't think this guy can make it at this level.  I give a big coaching advantage to Michigan St.  Think they can actually win this game.
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    Love Mich St at plus 2 touchdowns.  Like SatNight said, even though their D loses a some good players, they're still gonna put out a good defense and are very physical.  Offense returns almost everyone. Oregon struggled a lot down the stretch last year and I'm not sold on their coach Helfrich.  Don't think this guy can make it at this level.  I give a big coaching advantage to Michigan St.  Think they can actually win this game.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2014 - 11:32 PM ET #14

    Msu beat no one last yr. Dont be fooled that they ran the table in a weak big 10 last year. mariota was injured 2h of season. he will be healthy and oregon will score at will. Msu in that stanford game got ALOT of breaks as stanford outplayed em for most of the game. Big 10 cannot play with speed and thats oregons game
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    Msu beat no one last yr. Dont be fooled that they ran the table in a weak big 10 last year. mariota was injured 2h of season. he will be healthy and oregon will score at will. Msu in that stanford game got ALOT of breaks as stanford outplayed em for most of the game. Big 10 cannot play with speed and thats oregons game
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2014 - 12:15 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by MrManning:

    Msu beat no one last yr. Dont be fooled that they ran the table in a weak big 10 last year. mariota was injured 2h of season. he will be healthy and oregon will score at will. Msu in that stanford game got ALOT of breaks as stanford outplayed em for most of the game. Big 10 cannot play with speed and thats oregons game


    C'mon bud.. MSU beat every B1G team last year by 10+ including undefeated OSU who was playing for a spot in the NT game

    Stanford had a pick 6 and recovered a fumble at their 5 yard line.. MSU dominated that game after the 1st Q
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrManning:

    Msu beat no one last yr. Dont be fooled that they ran the table in a weak big 10 last year. mariota was injured 2h of season. he will be healthy and oregon will score at will. Msu in that stanford game got ALOT of breaks as stanford outplayed em for most of the game. Big 10 cannot play with speed and thats oregons game


    C'mon bud.. MSU beat every B1G team last year by 10+ including undefeated OSU who was playing for a spot in the NT game

    Stanford had a pick 6 and recovered a fumble at their 5 yard line.. MSU dominated that game after the 1st Q
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2014 - 4:02 AM ET #16

    And the big 10 sucks..... lol. MSU is garbage. Im easily throwing down a couple grand on oregon
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    And the big 10 sucks..... lol. MSU is garbage. Im easily throwing down a couple grand on oregon
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2014 - 4:23 AM ET #17

    WARNING:   SatNightFever05 is a MSU homer and cannot be trusted here......






    BUT......he's usually correct.....and one of the best situational cappers around..........
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    WARNING:   SatNightFever05 is a MSU homer and cannot be trusted here......






    BUT......he's usually correct.....and one of the best situational cappers around..........
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2014 - 8:12 AM ET #18

    This matchup obviously comes down to msu defense vs UO offense. I see a lot of you saying that the ducks will be just to fast for the spartans which I believe is B.S. If you watch ohio st play on offense their offenses are very similar to Oregon. Which I believe Urban Meyer has a better offense anyway. Mich St will have no problem going against this offense. Their defense is always stout and good against the run. If you shut down Oregons run game then you have a great chance in beating them.

    If mich st is +14 I'm taking it, I do believe Oregon will come out with the W mainly because it's hard to win in that stadium and the offense for mich st may have trouble scoring touchdowns. But their defense will create turnovers and keep them in it. 
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    This matchup obviously comes down to msu defense vs UO offense. I see a lot of you saying that the ducks will be just to fast for the spartans which I believe is B.S. If you watch ohio st play on offense their offenses are very similar to Oregon. Which I believe Urban Meyer has a better offense anyway. Mich St will have no problem going against this offense. Their defense is always stout and good against the run. If you shut down Oregons run game then you have a great chance in beating them.

    If mich st is +14 I'm taking it, I do believe Oregon will come out with the W mainly because it's hard to win in that stadium and the offense for mich st may have trouble scoring touchdowns. But their defense will create turnovers and keep them in it. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2014 - 8:58 AM ET #19

    Try telling Urban Meyer he is nobody!

    Wow! I hate Ohio State, but only because they are so good!

    Since he's been there, he's had ONE CONFERENCE LOSS.

    See if you can guess what it is......................
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    Try telling Urban Meyer he is nobody!

    Wow! I hate Ohio State, but only because they are so good!

    Since he's been there, he's had ONE CONFERENCE LOSS.

    See if you can guess what it is......................
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2014 - 9:47 AM ET #20

    tough spot for Sparty to travel upto Eugene.... right now i would take Oregon for small



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    tough spot for Sparty to travel upto Eugene.... right now i would take Oregon for small



    Who ever said the BIG10 sucks clearly is a moron
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2014 - 11:17 AM ET #21

    Oregon doesn't always do great against a physical defense, but if Oregon catches a lucky bounce and gets an early lead they could win by 50.  If Mich St gets an early lead, they will try to run the clock down IMO.  

    Oregon likes to play games in the 80+ points total.  Mich St is happier around 45 points.  If the book allows it, if you like Oregon, I would parlay it with over, and vice versa for Mich St + Under.
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    Oregon doesn't always do great against a physical defense, but if Oregon catches a lucky bounce and gets an early lead they could win by 50.  If Mich St gets an early lead, they will try to run the clock down IMO.  

    Oregon likes to play games in the 80+ points total.  Mich St is happier around 45 points.  If the book allows it, if you like Oregon, I would parlay it with over, and vice versa for Mich St + Under.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 14, 2014 - 11:26 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

    i like the seniment on the ducks...if you guys look, mich st. was not that highly regarded early in the season in 2013.   Now, just because they manhandled stanford, with a month to prepare, everyone thinks they are world beaters...



    Mich St has lost a lot on D over the offseason.   With Oregon's Mariota as the Heisman favorite and potential #1 draft pick, I think the Ducks will want to TCB at Auzen in week 2.

    peace

    Michigan State was unsure of who the quarterback was going to be. They now know. And they have had more than a month to prepare for Oregon. Same coach and coordinators coming back. Not saying MSU will win or cover but they know their identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

    i like the seniment on the ducks...if you guys look, mich st. was not that highly regarded early in the season in 2013.   Now, just because they manhandled stanford, with a month to prepare, everyone thinks they are world beaters...



    Mich St has lost a lot on D over the offseason.   With Oregon's Mariota as the Heisman favorite and potential #1 draft pick, I think the Ducks will want to TCB at Auzen in week 2.

    peace

    Michigan State was unsure of who the quarterback was going to be. They now know. And they have had more than a month to prepare for Oregon. Same coach and coordinators coming back. Not saying MSU will win or cover but they know their identity.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2014 - 10:59 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    WARNING:   SatNightFever05 is a MSU homer and cannot be trusted here......



    BUT......he's usually correct.....and one of the best situational cappers around..........




    Good to see ya BA.. how's the offseason?

    Tell ya what- that Rose Bowl.. thing of beauty

    This game scares me a bit with the new LBs for MSU.. usually takes them 4-5 games to get fully in the system (even though we'll be starting 2 RS JRs and a SR).  I expect this to be a pretty high scoring game.. maybe 34-27 Ore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    WARNING:   SatNightFever05 is a MSU homer and cannot be trusted here......



    BUT......he's usually correct.....and one of the best situational cappers around..........




    Good to see ya BA.. how's the offseason?

    Tell ya what- that Rose Bowl.. thing of beauty

    This game scares me a bit with the new LBs for MSU.. usually takes them 4-5 games to get fully in the system (even though we'll be starting 2 RS JRs and a SR).  I expect this to be a pretty high scoring game.. maybe 34-27 Ore?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 16, 2014 - 11:03 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelRocks:

    if oregon O have any amount of success they will kill michigan st.....I don't trust mstate offense at all 

    Do you trust an Oregon D against a solid running game?  Caveat emptor. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelRocks:

    if oregon O have any amount of success they will kill michigan st.....I don't trust mstate offense at all 

    Do you trust an Oregon D against a solid running game?  Caveat emptor. 
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2014 - 6:58 PM ET #25

    U can bet this game will be right around the number.I will 6pt tease both sides.I see 14pt leads both both teams with great in game wagering opportunities.
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    U can bet this game will be right around the number.I will 6pt tease both sides.I see 14pt leads both both teams with great in game wagering opportunities.
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