tough spot for Sparty to travel upto Eugene.... right now i would take Oregon for small
Who ever said the BIG10 sucks clearly is a moron
Tough spot for Sparty??? How so??? This is an absolutely ideal spot for Michigan State. Other than playing at home, I'm not sure how the spot could be much better.
As I have said 10 billion times on this forum, when a good defensive team has extra time to prepare for a gimmick offenses matchup, the extra time heavily favors the defense, We see this consistently play out over and over again. That's exactly the situation we have here, and thus this matchup heavily favors Michigan State.
I will laugh if I can get double digits at the time when I can actually bet real money. And because I think Sparty will win this game straight up, I'll be all over the ML as well.
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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:
tough spot for Sparty to travel upto Eugene.... right now i would take Oregon for small
Who ever said the BIG10 sucks clearly is a moron
Tough spot for Sparty??? How so??? This is an absolutely ideal spot for Michigan State. Other than playing at home, I'm not sure how the spot could be much better.
As I have said 10 billion times on this forum, when a good defensive team has extra time to prepare for a gimmick offenses matchup, the extra time heavily favors the defense, We see this consistently play out over and over again. That's exactly the situation we have here, and thus this matchup heavily favors Michigan State.
I will laugh if I can get double digits at the time when I can actually bet real money. And because I think Sparty will win this game straight up, I'll be all over the ML as well.
Good to see some MSU backers in this thread the last few days.
And it's official, I bet 1 unit on MSU +14. Didn't realize until the last couple days that 5dimes has their Game of the Year games listed under Props. Decided not to get greedy and hope for +14.5. Actually more concerned about this line going down the week of this game. What's everyone's thoughts on line movement, what do you think the closing line will be?
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Good to see some MSU backers in this thread the last few days.
And it's official, I bet 1 unit on MSU +14. Didn't realize until the last couple days that 5dimes has their Game of the Year games listed under Props. Decided not to get greedy and hope for +14.5. Actually more concerned about this line going down the week of this game. What's everyone's thoughts on line movement, what do you think the closing line will be?
Good to see some MSU backers in this thread the last few days.
And it's official, I bet 1 unit on MSU +14. Didn't realize until the last couple days that 5dimes has their Game of the Year games listed under Props. Decided not to get greedy and hope for +14.5. Actually more concerned about this line going down the week of this game. What's everyone's thoughts on line movement, what do you think the closing line will be?
I also think the line will drop.
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Quote Originally Posted by TD21:
Good to see some MSU backers in this thread the last few days.
And it's official, I bet 1 unit on MSU +14. Didn't realize until the last couple days that 5dimes has their Game of the Year games listed under Props. Decided not to get greedy and hope for +14.5. Actually more concerned about this line going down the week of this game. What's everyone's thoughts on line movement, what do you think the closing line will be?
I didn't realize Sparty was a 14 point dogs.I agree with Jimmy.Take Sparty ML & points plus this will be a good 6point tease for me and of course an in game wager.Mich st has a long history over under performing in these big games, but the eye ball test tells me Sparty all day
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I didn't realize Sparty was a 14 point dogs.I agree with Jimmy.Take Sparty ML & points plus this will be a good 6point tease for me and of course an in game wager.Mich st has a long history over under performing in these big games, but the eye ball test tells me Sparty all day
Oregon is hard to beat at home. Not sure of the last out of conference team to come into Oregon and pull one out. I expect Oregon to win, but Mich St. will cover.
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Oregon is hard to beat at home. Not sure of the last out of conference team to come into Oregon and pull one out. I expect Oregon to win, but Mich St. will cover.
Oregon is hard to beat at home. Not sure of the last out of conference team to come into Oregon and pull one out. I expect Oregon to win, but Mich St. will cover.
True, but they rarely play a team with good defense non-conf at home. Oregon will beat a bad team by 70 points, but if they play a good defense and don't get the turnovers/lucky bounces it will probably be a 1 score game.
Here are Oregon's toughest non-conf games the last few years and the results.
2013 - whipped Tennessee
2012 - beat Fresno by 17
2011 - whipped Nevada
2010 - whipped New Mexico
2009 - beat Purdue by only 2
2008 - lost to Boise
If Mich St can execute the Stanford blueprint then they have a great chance to win. And I would have to say Mich St is probably the most similar team to Stanford there is.
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Quote Originally Posted by aleopriest:
Oregon is hard to beat at home. Not sure of the last out of conference team to come into Oregon and pull one out. I expect Oregon to win, but Mich St. will cover.
True, but they rarely play a team with good defense non-conf at home. Oregon will beat a bad team by 70 points, but if they play a good defense and don't get the turnovers/lucky bounces it will probably be a 1 score game.
Here are Oregon's toughest non-conf games the last few years and the results.
2013 - whipped Tennessee
2012 - beat Fresno by 17
2011 - whipped Nevada
2010 - whipped New Mexico
2009 - beat Purdue by only 2
2008 - lost to Boise
If Mich St can execute the Stanford blueprint then they have a great chance to win. And I would have to say Mich St is probably the most similar team to Stanford there is.
Um....Mich St definitely covers and probably wins.
Great D is what is needed to win on the road Great D usually excels in any weather. Bad weather makes offense harder to execute. Fan noise affects offense much more than Defense
Great Offense vs. Great Defense usually = Defense wins. Not 100% but darn close.
On top of all that Sparty Offense will be much improved AND they have a very talented all around rFrosh behind...or pushing the starter...who took the helm by force (good play that is) and didn't disappoint and was Rose Bowl MVP.
Oh BTW Phil Steele did point out that Mich St has been producing NFL QBs under Dantonio. (Drew Stanton, Brian Hoyer & Kirk Cousins) not bad. Now under 2nd year co-OCs & 2nd year basically mistake free as a young now veteran QB.
I'm ridin with SPARTY in this one yo.
Good Luck to All Lets get that $$$
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Um....Mich St definitely covers and probably wins.
Great D is what is needed to win on the road Great D usually excels in any weather. Bad weather makes offense harder to execute. Fan noise affects offense much more than Defense
Great Offense vs. Great Defense usually = Defense wins. Not 100% but darn close.
On top of all that Sparty Offense will be much improved AND they have a very talented all around rFrosh behind...or pushing the starter...who took the helm by force (good play that is) and didn't disappoint and was Rose Bowl MVP.
Oh BTW Phil Steele did point out that Mich St has been producing NFL QBs under Dantonio. (Drew Stanton, Brian Hoyer & Kirk Cousins) not bad. Now under 2nd year co-OCs & 2nd year basically mistake free as a young now veteran QB.
Tough spot for Sparty??? How so??? This is an absolutely ideal spot for Michigan State. Other than playing at home, I'm not sure how the spot could be much better.
As I have said 10 billion times on this forum, when a good defensive team has extra time to prepare for a gimmick offenses matchup, the extra time heavily favors the defense, We see this consistently play out over and over again. That's exactly the situation we have here, and thus this matchup heavily favors Michigan State.
I will laugh if I can get double digits at the time when I can actually bet real money. And because I think Sparty will win this game straight up, I'll be all over the ML as well.
the reference was to the SITUATIONAL spot....... *not the MATCH-UP
and D-UP was right .....a terrible SPOT for Michigan St *off one of the best seasons in school history....now an early road game in one of the nation's toughest places to play *Ducks return with something to prove for sure...off a terrible finish
*In 2013 Sparty was the first B10 team since 1943.... to emerge conf play undefeated and win each game by DD
The impediment to action advances action - what stands in the way becomes the way.
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Tough spot for Sparty??? How so??? This is an absolutely ideal spot for Michigan State. Other than playing at home, I'm not sure how the spot could be much better.
As I have said 10 billion times on this forum, when a good defensive team has extra time to prepare for a gimmick offenses matchup, the extra time heavily favors the defense, We see this consistently play out over and over again. That's exactly the situation we have here, and thus this matchup heavily favors Michigan State.
I will laugh if I can get double digits at the time when I can actually bet real money. And because I think Sparty will win this game straight up, I'll be all over the ML as well.
the reference was to the SITUATIONAL spot....... *not the MATCH-UP
and D-UP was right .....a terrible SPOT for Michigan St *off one of the best seasons in school history....now an early road game in one of the nation's toughest places to play *Ducks return with something to prove for sure...off a terrible finish
*In 2013 Sparty was the first B10 team since 1943.... to emerge conf play undefeated and win each game by DD
WHY.....are the Ducks so tough to stop? *great execution *pace/ tempo AND if a great running QB too ...a 5th 'E' gap to defend Saban / Smart haven't figured it out yet....
Problem?....you can't simulate what they do in 2-3 days of practice *you have to (usually) run 2 groups at your D...so teaching their O to 22+ guys......most D's don't have the depth to keep up for 4 quarters
BUT....as that Freak mentioned..the Ducks have been exposed when teams have time to prepare...embarrassing really
2013 *bowl vs Texas...one offensive TD / 4-12 3rd / RB's 3.1/rush *Tree...3-10 3rd / 2.6 per rush / 312 TO
2012 *Tree...2 TD's...both on short/shorter field / 4-17 3rd *Kan St...4-13 3rd...385 TO
2011 *LSU....335 TO / 3.4 per rush /9-19 3rd *Tree...won but 1-9 3rd /387 TO / 18 FD *bowl vs Wisky...rolled in shootout type game
2010 *Tree...Ducks rolled here but Stanford still settling in with new D and off big win over Irish / USC next *bowl vs Auburn...5-15 3rd / 2.3 per rush *note Cal shut them down playing man / crowding LOS
2009 *@ Boise...152 TO / 1.8 per rush *bowl vs Ohio St...260 TO / 2-11 3rd
$$ So...since 2009...when facing even a reasonably tough and RESTED D... the Ducks have not moved it well at all...not one time that I can find... *in fact...vs Tree / bowl games /vs rested top D's the Ducks are 45-141 on 3rd down (31.9 % / about #114 LY)
The impediment to action advances action - what stands in the way becomes the way.
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The MATCH-UP....here seems to favor Sparty
WHY.....are the Ducks so tough to stop? *great execution *pace/ tempo AND if a great running QB too ...a 5th 'E' gap to defend Saban / Smart haven't figured it out yet....
Problem?....you can't simulate what they do in 2-3 days of practice *you have to (usually) run 2 groups at your D...so teaching their O to 22+ guys......most D's don't have the depth to keep up for 4 quarters
BUT....as that Freak mentioned..the Ducks have been exposed when teams have time to prepare...embarrassing really
2013 *bowl vs Texas...one offensive TD / 4-12 3rd / RB's 3.1/rush *Tree...3-10 3rd / 2.6 per rush / 312 TO
2012 *Tree...2 TD's...both on short/shorter field / 4-17 3rd *Kan St...4-13 3rd...385 TO
2011 *LSU....335 TO / 3.4 per rush /9-19 3rd *Tree...won but 1-9 3rd /387 TO / 18 FD *bowl vs Wisky...rolled in shootout type game
2010 *Tree...Ducks rolled here but Stanford still settling in with new D and off big win over Irish / USC next *bowl vs Auburn...5-15 3rd / 2.3 per rush *note Cal shut them down playing man / crowding LOS
2009 *@ Boise...152 TO / 1.8 per rush *bowl vs Ohio St...260 TO / 2-11 3rd
$$ So...since 2009...when facing even a reasonably tough and RESTED D... the Ducks have not moved it well at all...not one time that I can find... *in fact...vs Tree / bowl games /vs rested top D's the Ducks are 45-141 on 3rd down (31.9 % / about #114 LY)
Will be watching this game but decided not putting any substanial money on it. Keep flip-floping back and forth. IF State's D is as good as last year and the offense is steady and doesn't turn the ball over, State covers. IF Ducks crack that defense the flood gates might open and it's a runaway.
For me, best to just watch this one.
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Thanks for all the responses!
Will be watching this game but decided not putting any substanial money on it. Keep flip-floping back and forth. IF State's D is as good as last year and the offense is steady and doesn't turn the ball over, State covers. IF Ducks crack that defense the flood gates might open and it's a runaway.
A legit defense with a running game vs. a gimmick offense who can't stop the run... and they are getting DD... yea!
Mich St spread, TT OV and ML all look good...
I will be moderately surprised if Oregon wins this, and please don't say something about me not knowing how hard it is to play in the duck pond... I lived in Oregon for several years, and I rarely ever bet against them... but these are the teams that give Oregon nightmares!
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A legit defense with a running game vs. a gimmick offense who can't stop the run... and they are getting DD... yea!
Mich St spread, TT OV and ML all look good...
I will be moderately surprised if Oregon wins this, and please don't say something about me not knowing how hard it is to play in the duck pond... I lived in Oregon for several years, and I rarely ever bet against them... but these are the teams that give Oregon nightmares!
What do you mean "Where will the offense come from for Mich St?" They have a returning QB that got better and better as the year went on (some peoples dark horse heisman candidate), they return their RB(led B10 in Rushing TD), all of their WR corp, starting Center and LT.
If I were to question ANYTHING about this Mich St team, it would be replacing their interior def line and LB. The outside DL is stout and they have plenty of talent in the middle, just not a ton of game time. The saving factor there is the defensive staff as they always seem to just replace the guys they lose
Don't know about you guys, but I do like Mich St in this spot, there is no way that Oregon scores at will and because of the weapons St has on offense, I think they can hang if they do
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What do you mean "Where will the offense come from for Mich St?" They have a returning QB that got better and better as the year went on (some peoples dark horse heisman candidate), they return their RB(led B10 in Rushing TD), all of their WR corp, starting Center and LT.
If I were to question ANYTHING about this Mich St team, it would be replacing their interior def line and LB. The outside DL is stout and they have plenty of talent in the middle, just not a ton of game time. The saving factor there is the defensive staff as they always seem to just replace the guys they lose
Don't know about you guys, but I do like Mich St in this spot, there is no way that Oregon scores at will and because of the weapons St has on offense, I think they can hang if they do
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