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    May his soul rest in peace.

     

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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 9:12 PM ET #3

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    sad how he got pulled into the sandusky scandal.  he did everything he could/should have.  poor guy.  may his soul rest in peace.

     

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    sad how he got pulled into the sandusky scandal.  he did everything he could/should have.  poor guy.  may his soul rest in peace.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 9:38 PM ET #6

    He's still alive...barely though
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 9:52 PM ET #7

    I heard he died.
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 9:53 PM ET #8

    False Report according to Jay Paterno on twitter a half an hour ago (after CBS Sports jumped the gun).
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 10:05 PM ET #9

    Hope he can come through this if that's true.
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:05 PM ET #11

    can't believe the state that he is in.  Great guy.
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:10 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by nflcapperletsgo:

    he did everything he could/should have


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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2012 - 11:16 PM ET #13

    he did, jd.

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    He's a scumbag lost in a time when abuse and slavery were ok.
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    Slavery was abolished in 1865. Paterno is ancient by coaching standards, but he's not that old ... or that guilty.

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    Slavery was abolished in 1865. Paterno is ancient by coaching standards, but he's not that old ... or that guilty.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KktdocT:

    can't believe the state that he is in.  Great guy.


    Why can't you believe it?  He's 85 years old.

    As for the last part, ask the families of Sandusky's victims.
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    can't believe the state that he is in.  Great guy.


    Why can't you believe it?  He's 85 years old.

    As for the last part, ask the families of Sandusky's victims.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by clepto:

    He's a scumbag lost in a time when abuse and slavery were ok.

    you are much scummier
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    He's a scumbag lost in a time when abuse and slavery were ok.

    you are much scummier
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:



    Why can't you believe it?  He's 85 years old.

    As for the last part, ask the families of Sandusky's victims.

    they just want a meal ticket from joe, and most those families did not exist because children were orphaned which is why jerry preyed on them.  know the facts, then talk
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    Why can't you believe it?  He's 85 years old.

    As for the last part, ask the families of Sandusky's victims.

    they just want a meal ticket from joe, and most those families did not exist because children were orphaned which is why jerry preyed on them.  know the facts, then talk
     
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    Anybody who mourns the loss of Joe Paterno needs to take a long look in the mirror. 

    Instead of saying RIP Joe Paterno,  I say RIP Innocence.

    Instead of mourning someone  who had a choice in the whole thing, which Joe Paterno most certainly did. I'm mourning something that was stolen from children because Joe Paterno decided Penn State and the kids on his football team were more important than kids that he only saw in Jerry Sandusky's SUV.

    I'm sick and tired of people punting on this. We are all adults. As adults, aren't we supposed to stand up for children? Aren't we supposed to protect them when they can't protect themselves? So here we are, trying to claim we're all too far removed to shower Joe Pa with the opprobrium he so richly deserves. I say that is complete and utter nonsense. Shine a light on this thing. The brightest light possible. Why? So the next time a person puts themselves, their reputation and a faceless institution above the well-being of children, he sees that cowardice in the face of depravity is far more ruinous than a little bad publicity.

    I'm not the type to moralize, but I draw the line at pedophilia, protecting pedophiles and canonizing men who protect them. So I can't "let it be." I'm willing to forgive a mistake. I don't think anyone should be willing to forgive this.




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    Anybody who mourns the loss of Joe Paterno needs to take a long look in the mirror. 

    Instead of saying RIP Joe Paterno,  I say RIP Innocence.

    Instead of mourning someone  who had a choice in the whole thing, which Joe Paterno most certainly did. I'm mourning something that was stolen from children because Joe Paterno decided Penn State and the kids on his football team were more important than kids that he only saw in Jerry Sandusky's SUV.

    I'm sick and tired of people punting on this. We are all adults. As adults, aren't we supposed to stand up for children? Aren't we supposed to protect them when they can't protect themselves? So here we are, trying to claim we're all too far removed to shower Joe Pa with the opprobrium he so richly deserves. I say that is complete and utter nonsense. Shine a light on this thing. The brightest light possible. Why? So the next time a person puts themselves, their reputation and a faceless institution above the well-being of children, he sees that cowardice in the face of depravity is far more ruinous than a little bad publicity.

    I'm not the type to moralize, but I draw the line at pedophilia, protecting pedophiles and canonizing men who protect them. So I can't "let it be." I'm willing to forgive a mistake. I don't think anyone should be willing to forgive this.




     
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    Dying doesn't absolve a person of responsibility. Illness doesn't absolve a person of the horrors perpetrated under their watch. 

    What's ignorant and ridiculous is pretending as if a person's age, fragility, legacy on the football field or anything else somehow alter's the trajectory of a man's life. Dying doesn't mean a person can't be judged. It simply means they are no longer here. And I don't know how far any of us are "removed" from this situation. He was an adult. The face of a university. A man who preached bravery, honor, and integrity for years. But rather than adhering to any of the principles he demanded of those around him, he took the coward's way out. He chose himself over children. 

    He spent 46 years or so preaching ideas of how to act and behave that he was incapable of doing himself. When the time came to be a man and tell the truth. He instead chose the path of cowardice. 

    This is the stone cold reality of Joe Paterno and his legacy. 

    RIP Innocence. Not you Joe.



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    Dying doesn't absolve a person of responsibility. Illness doesn't absolve a person of the horrors perpetrated under their watch. 

    What's ignorant and ridiculous is pretending as if a person's age, fragility, legacy on the football field or anything else somehow alter's the trajectory of a man's life. Dying doesn't mean a person can't be judged. It simply means they are no longer here. And I don't know how far any of us are "removed" from this situation. He was an adult. The face of a university. A man who preached bravery, honor, and integrity for years. But rather than adhering to any of the principles he demanded of those around him, he took the coward's way out. He chose himself over children. 

    He spent 46 years or so preaching ideas of how to act and behave that he was incapable of doing himself. When the time came to be a man and tell the truth. He instead chose the path of cowardice. 

    This is the stone cold reality of Joe Paterno and his legacy. 

    RIP Innocence. Not you Joe.



     
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    he made a choice, and he told his superiors (head of police tim schultz and the AD) that mike mcqueary, the moron who has changed his story of what he saw or what he did when he saw it FOUR times since November.

    he is guilty of lack of judgement at the most by not following up more thoroughly.  as he said, as anyone related to the case, hell even i who has friends in that area has said, "in hindsight" we all wish we saw something or could have done more.

    you can't make citizen arrests or spread the word around town that some guy is a child molester when you did not see anything and heard second hand from a jackass that he saw some stuff, but clearly he did not state rape to paterno, that has been consistent.

    thats why to many of us "crazy" people, we feel he is not as guilty as the guy who was not on the penn state staff for the past 13 years and who was was the one accused of fondling kids and giving back cracks.

    if you dont see the difference between joe paterno and jerry sandusky and your mind cannot differentiate their guilty, then you are just plain stupid.

    the media's reaction which forced the hand of BOT is disgusting.  When you have an apples to apples case in Syracuse.  Kudos to the Cuse BOT for handling it like they should have as it will just go away over time, much like it already has.  And Bernie Fine sat next to JB for decades on the bench up until this season while this was going on.

    If you dont see the unfairness in that, then you are wrong.  This is why Paterno supporters, or even the common educated man have taken to defending Paterno and giving him the benefit of the doubt.  He may have been wrong, but he is not guilty of being a child molester.  The pathetic public (some) cannot see this and cannot see that they are being duped by the media, much like Hitler duped so many.  Give someone a platform and a microphone and they can sway a nation/world.  
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    he made a choice, and he told his superiors (head of police tim schultz and the AD) that mike mcqueary, the moron who has changed his story of what he saw or what he did when he saw it FOUR times since November.

    he is guilty of lack of judgement at the most by not following up more thoroughly.  as he said, as anyone related to the case, hell even i who has friends in that area has said, "in hindsight" we all wish we saw something or could have done more.

    you can't make citizen arrests or spread the word around town that some guy is a child molester when you did not see anything and heard second hand from a jackass that he saw some stuff, but clearly he did not state rape to paterno, that has been consistent.

    thats why to many of us "crazy" people, we feel he is not as guilty as the guy who was not on the penn state staff for the past 13 years and who was was the one accused of fondling kids and giving back cracks.

    if you dont see the difference between joe paterno and jerry sandusky and your mind cannot differentiate their guilty, then you are just plain stupid.

    the media's reaction which forced the hand of BOT is disgusting.  When you have an apples to apples case in Syracuse.  Kudos to the Cuse BOT for handling it like they should have as it will just go away over time, much like it already has.  And Bernie Fine sat next to JB for decades on the bench up until this season while this was going on.

    If you dont see the unfairness in that, then you are wrong.  This is why Paterno supporters, or even the common educated man have taken to defending Paterno and giving him the benefit of the doubt.  He may have been wrong, but he is not guilty of being a child molester.  The pathetic public (some) cannot see this and cannot see that they are being duped by the media, much like Hitler duped so many.  Give someone a platform and a microphone and they can sway a nation/world.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    Dying doesn't absolve a person of responsibility. Illness doesn't absolve a person of the horrors perpetrated under their watch. 

    What's ignorant and ridiculous is pretending as if a person's age, fragility, legacy on the football field or anything else somehow alter's the trajectory of a man's life. Dying doesn't mean a person can't be judged. It simply means they are no longer here. And I don't know how far any of us are "removed" from this situation. He was an adult. The face of a university. A man who preached bravery, honor, and integrity for years. But rather than adhering to any of the principles he demanded of those around him, he took the coward's way out. He chose himself over children. 

    He spent 46 years or so preaching ideas of how to act and behave that he was incapable of doing himself. When the time came to be a man and tell the truth. He instead chose the path of cowardice. 

    This is the stone cold reality of Joe Paterno and his legacy. 

    RIP Innocence. Not you Joe.




    Whats more is people like you who are happy the man is on his death bed.  These are the same people that say they are great christians, or have all these morals in life.  On earth i cannot imagine ever wishing death on someone unless they committed a criminal act as harsh as child molestation or first degree murder.  Again, the people who actually committed the crime.  (sandusky, even though he has not been convicted yet)

    And nobody said dying absolves anyone of anything.  To your moral standards Joe did not do enough, those same moral standards with which you cheer his death like he is bin laden.  But to say joe did nothing is wrong.  And as time has gone on even the DA has said there are no signs of a mass cover up at psu, just one sick man and two others (AD and Schultz) who did not do enough with what they were told by Paterno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    Dying doesn't absolve a person of responsibility. Illness doesn't absolve a person of the horrors perpetrated under their watch. 

    What's ignorant and ridiculous is pretending as if a person's age, fragility, legacy on the football field or anything else somehow alter's the trajectory of a man's life. Dying doesn't mean a person can't be judged. It simply means they are no longer here. And I don't know how far any of us are "removed" from this situation. He was an adult. The face of a university. A man who preached bravery, honor, and integrity for years. But rather than adhering to any of the principles he demanded of those around him, he took the coward's way out. He chose himself over children. 

    He spent 46 years or so preaching ideas of how to act and behave that he was incapable of doing himself. When the time came to be a man and tell the truth. He instead chose the path of cowardice. 

    This is the stone cold reality of Joe Paterno and his legacy. 

    RIP Innocence. Not you Joe.




    Whats more is people like you who are happy the man is on his death bed.  These are the same people that say they are great christians, or have all these morals in life.  On earth i cannot imagine ever wishing death on someone unless they committed a criminal act as harsh as child molestation or first degree murder.  Again, the people who actually committed the crime.  (sandusky, even though he has not been convicted yet)

    And nobody said dying absolves anyone of anything.  To your moral standards Joe did not do enough, those same moral standards with which you cheer his death like he is bin laden.  But to say joe did nothing is wrong.  And as time has gone on even the DA has said there are no signs of a mass cover up at psu, just one sick man and two others (AD and Schultz) who did not do enough with what they were told by Paterno.
     
     
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