Yeah if it wasnt for him covering up childfucking hed have a different legacy
Fuck Joe Pa
the DA has said no cover up took place by paterno. cover ups dont happen if someone reports something to their superiors. paterno did not like his superiors by the way. more speculation with no facts.
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Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:
"if it wasnt for the Sandusky nonsense"?
Yeah if it wasnt for him covering up childfucking hed have a different legacy
Fuck Joe Pa
the DA has said no cover up took place by paterno. cover ups dont happen if someone reports something to their superiors. paterno did not like his superiors by the way. more speculation with no facts.
FUCK THAT ASSHOLE. If you want to start another thread then we can discuss.
That old fuck is a complete dirtbag, end of story. He deserves no praise and no good stories told.
END OF STORY.....
insightful. if he wasnt such a class act he would say the same thing about you when you die. we'll let god decide when then it is when you laugh/cheer at a mans death
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Quote Originally Posted by powerade:
HE CAN ROT IN HELL....
FUCK THAT ASSHOLE. If you want to start another thread then we can discuss.
That old fuck is a complete dirtbag, end of story. He deserves no praise and no good stories told.
END OF STORY.....
insightful. if he wasnt such a class act he would say the same thing about you when you die. we'll let god decide when then it is when you laugh/cheer at a mans death
When someone dies it is precisely the time to talk about who that person was. Dying doesn't take away all the bad that you have done in this world. I know that watching your heroes fall can/will be hard for children....but these crazy adults who still want to have his back. I mean come on you crazy twisted fucks ask yourself one question and answer it honestly...if it had been one of your children what would you think of JoePa??? I used to think that West Virginia or Alabama might be the dumbest state, but Pennsylvania is full of educated idiots I guess. I hope that JoePa can rest in peace...but he does not deserve any sort of hero status.
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When someone dies it is precisely the time to talk about who that person was. Dying doesn't take away all the bad that you have done in this world. I know that watching your heroes fall can/will be hard for children....but these crazy adults who still want to have his back. I mean come on you crazy twisted fucks ask yourself one question and answer it honestly...if it had been one of your children what would you think of JoePa??? I used to think that West Virginia or Alabama might be the dumbest state, but Pennsylvania is full of educated idiots I guess. I hope that JoePa can rest in peace...but he does not deserve any sort of hero status.
Anybody who mourns the loss of Joe Paterno needs to take a long look in the mirror.
Instead of saying RIP Joe Paterno, I say RIP Innocence.
Instead of mourning someone who had a choice in the whole thing, which Joe Paterno most certainly did. I'm mourning something that was stolen
from children because Joe Paterno decided Penn State and the kids on his
football team were more important than kids that he only saw in Jerry
Sandusky's SUV.
I'm sick and tired of people punting on this. We are all
adults. As adults, aren't we supposed to stand up for children? Aren't we
supposed to protect them when they can't protect themselves? So here we are, trying
to claim we're all too far removed to shower Joe Pa with the opprobrium he so
richly deserves. I say that is complete and utter nonsense. Shine a light on this thing. The brightest
light possible. Why? So the next time a person puts themselves, their
reputation and a faceless institution above the well-being of children, he sees
that cowardice in the face of depravity is far more ruinous than a little bad
publicity.
I'm not the type to moralize, but I draw the line
at pedophilia, protecting pedophiles and canonizing men who protect them. So I
can't "let it be." I'm willing to forgive a mistake. I don't think
anyone should be willing to forgive this.
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Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:
Anybody who mourns the loss of Joe Paterno needs to take a long look in the mirror.
Instead of saying RIP Joe Paterno, I say RIP Innocence.
Instead of mourning someone who had a choice in the whole thing, which Joe Paterno most certainly did. I'm mourning something that was stolen
from children because Joe Paterno decided Penn State and the kids on his
football team were more important than kids that he only saw in Jerry
Sandusky's SUV.
I'm sick and tired of people punting on this. We are all
adults. As adults, aren't we supposed to stand up for children? Aren't we
supposed to protect them when they can't protect themselves? So here we are, trying
to claim we're all too far removed to shower Joe Pa with the opprobrium he so
richly deserves. I say that is complete and utter nonsense. Shine a light on this thing. The brightest
light possible. Why? So the next time a person puts themselves, their
reputation and a faceless institution above the well-being of children, he sees
that cowardice in the face of depravity is far more ruinous than a little bad
publicity.
I'm not the type to moralize, but I draw the line
at pedophilia, protecting pedophiles and canonizing men who protect them. So I
can't "let it be." I'm willing to forgive a mistake. I don't think
anyone should be willing to forgive this.
No leaps? No leaps with your conclusion that the man is a complete coward after his career. NO leaps? Its all LEAPs to conclusions on your part...Ok, I am done. You join clepto, DUMBUP4LIFE, and cd as the dumbest posters covers has ever seen.
We are sorry you hate the smartest football team in the nation this year, the university who is curing cancer, the #1 university job recruiters look to per the wall street journal, and one of only two football universities (props to Stanford) who has never committed an ncaa infraction. led by a coach who wont take a LeSean Mccoy because he is too dumb to get into our school, and he tried twice. All Joe cared about was winning, what a coward. LEAP on that.
The only thing sickening about Joe is how legendary he is and always will be. I will see him in heaven.
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Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:
No leaps? No leaps with your conclusion that the man is a complete coward after his career. NO leaps? Its all LEAPs to conclusions on your part...Ok, I am done. You join clepto, DUMBUP4LIFE, and cd as the dumbest posters covers has ever seen.
We are sorry you hate the smartest football team in the nation this year, the university who is curing cancer, the #1 university job recruiters look to per the wall street journal, and one of only two football universities (props to Stanford) who has never committed an ncaa infraction. led by a coach who wont take a LeSean Mccoy because he is too dumb to get into our school, and he tried twice. All Joe cared about was winning, what a coward. LEAP on that.
The only thing sickening about Joe is how legendary he is and always will be. I will see him in heaven.
Anybody who mourns the loss of Joe Paterno needs to take a long look in the mirror.
Instead of saying RIP Joe Paterno, I say RIP Innocence.
Instead of mourning someone who had a choice in the whole thing, which Joe Paterno most certainly did. I'm mourning something that was stolen
from children because Joe Paterno decided Penn State and the kids on his
football team were more important than kids that he only saw in Jerry
Sandusky's SUV.
I'm sick and tired of people punting on this. We are all
adults. As adults, aren't we supposed to stand up for children? Aren't we
supposed to protect them when they can't protect themselves? So here we are, trying
to claim we're all too far removed to shower Joe Pa with the opprobrium he so
richly deserves. I say that is complete and utter nonsense. Shine a light on this thing. The brightest
light possible. Why? So the next time a person puts themselves, their
reputation and a faceless institution above the well-being of children, he sees
that cowardice in the face of depravity is far more ruinous than a little bad
publicity.
I'm not the type to moralize, but I draw the line
at pedophilia, protecting pedophiles and canonizing men who protect them. So I
can't "let it be." I'm willing to forgive a mistake. I don't think
anyone should be willing to forgive this.
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Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:
Anybody who mourns the loss of Joe Paterno needs to take a long look in the mirror.
Instead of saying RIP Joe Paterno, I say RIP Innocence.
Instead of mourning someone who had a choice in the whole thing, which Joe Paterno most certainly did. I'm mourning something that was stolen
from children because Joe Paterno decided Penn State and the kids on his
football team were more important than kids that he only saw in Jerry
Sandusky's SUV.
I'm sick and tired of people punting on this. We are all
adults. As adults, aren't we supposed to stand up for children? Aren't we
supposed to protect them when they can't protect themselves? So here we are, trying
to claim we're all too far removed to shower Joe Pa with the opprobrium he so
richly deserves. I say that is complete and utter nonsense. Shine a light on this thing. The brightest
light possible. Why? So the next time a person puts themselves, their
reputation and a faceless institution above the well-being of children, he sees
that cowardice in the face of depravity is far more ruinous than a little bad
publicity.
I'm not the type to moralize, but I draw the line
at pedophilia, protecting pedophiles and canonizing men who protect them. So I
can't "let it be." I'm willing to forgive a mistake. I don't think
anyone should be willing to forgive this.
RIP JOEPA JOEPA WAS A GREAT MAN AND YES HE SHOULD OF DONE MORE
why was he a great man? He was a fucking football coach, big fucking deal. I honestly dont know why people want to call him a great man. What exactly did he do for society as a whole? Teach kids how to play a fucking game? Big deal. He made a lot of money doing it for himself. Show me what joe pa pa did for society outside of winning football games. The man could have been a hero, instead he buried his head in the sand and protected a monster. Hopefully hes in hell right now, feeling the pain the kids felt from sandusky
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Quote Originally Posted by pucku27:
RIP JOEPA JOEPA WAS A GREAT MAN AND YES HE SHOULD OF DONE MORE
why was he a great man? He was a fucking football coach, big fucking deal. I honestly dont know why people want to call him a great man. What exactly did he do for society as a whole? Teach kids how to play a fucking game? Big deal. He made a lot of money doing it for himself. Show me what joe pa pa did for society outside of winning football games. The man could have been a hero, instead he buried his head in the sand and protected a monster. Hopefully hes in hell right now, feeling the pain the kids felt from sandusky
why was he a great man? He was a fucking football coach, big fucking deal. I honestly dont know why people want to call him a great man. What exactly did he do for society as a whole? Teach kids how to play a fucking game? Big deal. He made a lot of money doing it for himself. Show me what joe pa pa did for society outside of winning football games. The man could have been a hero, instead he buried his head in the sand and protected a monster. Hopefully hes in hell right now, feeling the pain the kids felt from sandusky
Exactly..
The media isn't even interested in covering his career.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
why was he a great man? He was a fucking football coach, big fucking deal. I honestly dont know why people want to call him a great man. What exactly did he do for society as a whole? Teach kids how to play a fucking game? Big deal. He made a lot of money doing it for himself. Show me what joe pa pa did for society outside of winning football games. The man could have been a hero, instead he buried his head in the sand and protected a monster. Hopefully hes in hell right now, feeling the pain the kids felt from sandusky
Exactly..
The media isn't even interested in covering his career.
" If these Sandusky abuse allegations never came to the forefront (and to be honest I’m still not sure why they did) would Paterno have felt any guilt or remorse about sweeping the whole thing under the rug? The answer is an unequivocal no. Dude would still be alive and still be coaching at Penn State. He’d still have his legacy in tact and people would still be comparing him to Gandhi in Happy Valley. The only time he showed any remorse or guilt was after he got caught. And even then he seemed more concerned with his own well being than the victims. Giving speeches, holding pep rallies on his lawn and complaining about the way he was fired. It’s disgusting. That’s why I have no compassion or remorse for him. Joepa doesn’t feel bad about what he let happen to the victims. He feels bad he got caught. That’s why I say fuck him and those who defend him. He put protecting Penn State football and his legacy above protecting kids from a pedophile. How can anybody defend that?"
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" If these Sandusky abuse allegations never came to the forefront (and to be honest I’m still not sure why they did) would Paterno have felt any guilt or remorse about sweeping the whole thing under the rug? The answer is an unequivocal no. Dude would still be alive and still be coaching at Penn State. He’d still have his legacy in tact and people would still be comparing him to Gandhi in Happy Valley. The only time he showed any remorse or guilt was after he got caught. And even then he seemed more concerned with his own well being than the victims. Giving speeches, holding pep rallies on his lawn and complaining about the way he was fired. It’s disgusting. That’s why I have no compassion or remorse for him. Joepa doesn’t feel bad about what he let happen to the victims. He feels bad he got caught. That’s why I say fuck him and those who defend him. He put protecting Penn State football and his legacy above protecting kids from a pedophile. How can anybody defend that?"
Bottom line is after you complain to the authorities, you trust the authorities to handle it. When you call the police, don't you leave the investigation up to them and move on with your life that's what Joepa did - complained about it to superiors. That's all he or any reasonable person would do under the circumstances. People just like to hate so they are piling on Joepa which isn't right.
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Bottom line is after you complain to the authorities, you trust the authorities to handle it. When you call the police, don't you leave the investigation up to them and move on with your life that's what Joepa did - complained about it to superiors. That's all he or any reasonable person would do under the circumstances. People just like to hate so they are piling on Joepa which isn't right.
what did he lie about?? when was he charged with perjury?? why is he a coward in your eyes?? what crime has he been charged with?? what info do you know that anyone else does not know?? why do you believe everything you hear from the media and only the sides of things they want you to hear??
He? deserves far more than what some idiots who believe everything they hear would think of him. When he asked Tim Curley why Sandusky was still in the football building, Curley told him it was a university matter and not his concern. That is something the press won't report because it doesn't help to tarnish his name.
You realize perjury is lying while under oath. No trial has taken place yet.
He is not charged with a criminal offense it was a moral offense. Not all crimes go punished in this world.
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Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:
what did he lie about?? when was he charged with perjury?? why is he a coward in your eyes?? what crime has he been charged with?? what info do you know that anyone else does not know?? why do you believe everything you hear from the media and only the sides of things they want you to hear??
He? deserves far more than what some idiots who believe everything they hear would think of him. When he asked Tim Curley why Sandusky was still in the football building, Curley told him it was a university matter and not his concern. That is something the press won't report because it doesn't help to tarnish his name.
You realize perjury is lying while under oath. No trial has taken place yet.
He is not charged with a criminal offense it was a moral offense. Not all crimes go punished in this world.
why was he a great man? He was a fucking football coach, big fucking deal. I honestly dont know why people want to call him a great man. What exactly did he do for society as a whole? Teach kids how to play a fucking game? Big deal. He made a lot of money doing it for himself. Show me what joe pa pa did for society outside of winning football games. The man could have been a hero, instead he buried his head in the sand and protected a monster. Hopefully hes in hell right now, feeling the pain the kids felt from sandusky
HE TAUGHT THE KIDS ALOT MORE THEN JUST FOOTBALL YOU HAVE NO CLUE. THOSE KIDS LEFT PENN ST ALOT BETTER PEOPLE THEN WHEN THEY CAME THERE.YES HE MADE ALOT OF MONEY AND YES HE GAVE BACK A BOAT LOAD OF MONEY TOO PENN ST. I HAVE THIS FEELING THEIR A BETTER CHANCE OF YOU SEEING HELL BEFORE JOEPA.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
why was he a great man? He was a fucking football coach, big fucking deal. I honestly dont know why people want to call him a great man. What exactly did he do for society as a whole? Teach kids how to play a fucking game? Big deal. He made a lot of money doing it for himself. Show me what joe pa pa did for society outside of winning football games. The man could have been a hero, instead he buried his head in the sand and protected a monster. Hopefully hes in hell right now, feeling the pain the kids felt from sandusky
HE TAUGHT THE KIDS ALOT MORE THEN JUST FOOTBALL YOU HAVE NO CLUE. THOSE KIDS LEFT PENN ST ALOT BETTER PEOPLE THEN WHEN THEY CAME THERE.YES HE MADE ALOT OF MONEY AND YES HE GAVE BACK A BOAT LOAD OF MONEY TOO PENN ST. I HAVE THIS FEELING THEIR A BETTER CHANCE OF YOU SEEING HELL BEFORE JOEPA.
HE TAUGHT THE KIDS ALOT MORE THEN JUST FOOTBALL YOU HAVE NO CLUE...... I HAVE THIS FEELING THEIR A BETTER CHANCE OF YOU SEEING HELL BEFORE JOEPA.
True that......
from the Washington Post story which was based around Paterno's final public interview:
"Under his leadership Penn State football became a kind of gross national product as he won more games than any other coach in history, yet regularly posted high graduation rates — his team was ranked No.1 academically out of the top 25 football teams in 2009 and 2011 by the New America Foundation’s Academic Bowl Championship Series. The “cow college” grew into a public research university with $4.6 billion in revenue and buildings as large as airplane hangars. Beaver Stadium was renovated and enlarged six times during his tenure."
Like all men, great and not-so-great, Paterno's feet were made of clay. Some will say he should have done more in the Sandusky case, but he certainly is not guilty of trying to "cover up." He took the information he was given about alleged abuse and sent it up the university chain of command. The failure to act was not his. He fulfilled his legal responsibilites by reporting the action to his superiors. The burden was on them, and they are facing charges for their failure. Even one of the attorneys representing the victims said Paterno shouldn't have been fired.
RIP Joe Paterno, accomplishments, failures and all.
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Quote Originally Posted by pucku27:
HE TAUGHT THE KIDS ALOT MORE THEN JUST FOOTBALL YOU HAVE NO CLUE...... I HAVE THIS FEELING THEIR A BETTER CHANCE OF YOU SEEING HELL BEFORE JOEPA.
True that......
from the Washington Post story which was based around Paterno's final public interview:
"Under his leadership Penn State football became a kind of gross national product as he won more games than any other coach in history, yet regularly posted high graduation rates — his team was ranked No.1 academically out of the top 25 football teams in 2009 and 2011 by the New America Foundation’s Academic Bowl Championship Series. The “cow college” grew into a public research university with $4.6 billion in revenue and buildings as large as airplane hangars. Beaver Stadium was renovated and enlarged six times during his tenure."
Like all men, great and not-so-great, Paterno's feet were made of clay. Some will say he should have done more in the Sandusky case, but he certainly is not guilty of trying to "cover up." He took the information he was given about alleged abuse and sent it up the university chain of command. The failure to act was not his. He fulfilled his legal responsibilites by reporting the action to his superiors. The burden was on them, and they are facing charges for their failure. Even one of the attorneys representing the victims said Paterno shouldn't have been fired.
RIP Joe Paterno, accomplishments, failures and all.
he made a choice, and he told his superiors (head of police tim schultz and the AD) that mike mcqueary, the moron who has changed his story of what he saw or what he did when he saw it FOUR times since November.
he is guilty of lack of judgement at the most by not following up more thoroughly. as he said, as anyone related to the case, hell even i who has friends in that area has said, "in hindsight" we all wish we saw something or could have done more.
you can't make citizen arrests or spread the word around town that some guy is a child molester when you did not see anything and heard second hand from a jackass that he saw some stuff, but clearly he did not state rape to paterno, that has been consistent.
thats why to many of us "crazy" people, we feel he is not as guilty as the guy who was not on the penn state staff for the past 13 years and who was was the one accused of fondling kids and giving back cracks.
if you dont see the difference between joe paterno and jerry sandusky and your mind cannot differentiate their guilty, then you are just plain stupid.
the media's reaction which forced the hand of BOT is disgusting. When you have an apples to apples case in Syracuse. Kudos to the Cuse BOT for handling it like they should have as it will just go away over time, much like it already has. And Bernie Fine sat next to JB for decades on the bench up until this season while this was going on.
If you dont see the unfairness in that, then you are wrong. This is why Paterno supporters, or even the common educated man have taken to defending Paterno and giving him the benefit of the doubt. He may have been wrong, but he is not guilty of being a child molester. The pathetic public (some) cannot see this and cannot see that they are being duped by the media, much like Hitler duped so many. Give someone a platform and a microphone and they can sway a nation/world.
Joe Paterno might not be guilty of being a child molester-but his overall inaction in 2002 allowed a Sandusky to abuse kids for a lot of years. As an educator of 46 years-Paterno had a moral responsibility to call the police or the FBI upon hearing about the abuse of a child. He did next to NOTHING & put the football program & the university ahead of the safety of children. If anyone really thinks Paterno didn't know-even prior to 2002-that Sandusky had a thing for little boys-you've got your head up your ass. SHAME ON JOE PATERNO.
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Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:
he made a choice, and he told his superiors (head of police tim schultz and the AD) that mike mcqueary, the moron who has changed his story of what he saw or what he did when he saw it FOUR times since November.
he is guilty of lack of judgement at the most by not following up more thoroughly. as he said, as anyone related to the case, hell even i who has friends in that area has said, "in hindsight" we all wish we saw something or could have done more.
you can't make citizen arrests or spread the word around town that some guy is a child molester when you did not see anything and heard second hand from a jackass that he saw some stuff, but clearly he did not state rape to paterno, that has been consistent.
thats why to many of us "crazy" people, we feel he is not as guilty as the guy who was not on the penn state staff for the past 13 years and who was was the one accused of fondling kids and giving back cracks.
if you dont see the difference between joe paterno and jerry sandusky and your mind cannot differentiate their guilty, then you are just plain stupid.
the media's reaction which forced the hand of BOT is disgusting. When you have an apples to apples case in Syracuse. Kudos to the Cuse BOT for handling it like they should have as it will just go away over time, much like it already has. And Bernie Fine sat next to JB for decades on the bench up until this season while this was going on.
If you dont see the unfairness in that, then you are wrong. This is why Paterno supporters, or even the common educated man have taken to defending Paterno and giving him the benefit of the doubt. He may have been wrong, but he is not guilty of being a child molester. The pathetic public (some) cannot see this and cannot see that they are being duped by the media, much like Hitler duped so many. Give someone a platform and a microphone and they can sway a nation/world.
Joe Paterno might not be guilty of being a child molester-but his overall inaction in 2002 allowed a Sandusky to abuse kids for a lot of years. As an educator of 46 years-Paterno had a moral responsibility to call the police or the FBI upon hearing about the abuse of a child. He did next to NOTHING & put the football program & the university ahead of the safety of children. If anyone really thinks Paterno didn't know-even prior to 2002-that Sandusky had a thing for little boys-you've got your head up your ass. SHAME ON JOE PATERNO.
You realize perjury is lying while under oath. No trial has taken place yet.
He is not charged with a criminal offense it was a moral offense. Not all crimes go punished in this world.
you realize two men were arrested and charged with perjury??? Do you do you??
they did not carry the name Joe Paterno.
you do realize the DA said Joe Paterno will not be charged. you do realize the DA has come out and said as far as she cant tell there was nothing of the sort of a cover up, Paterno did what he was supposed to do legally.
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Quote Originally Posted by pezeveng:
You realize perjury is lying while under oath. No trial has taken place yet.
He is not charged with a criminal offense it was a moral offense. Not all crimes go punished in this world.
you realize two men were arrested and charged with perjury??? Do you do you??
they did not carry the name Joe Paterno.
you do realize the DA said Joe Paterno will not be charged. you do realize the DA has come out and said as far as she cant tell there was nothing of the sort of a cover up, Paterno did what he was supposed to do legally.
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JOEPA WAS A GREAT MAN AND YES HE SHOULD OF DONE MORE 
He let little boys get raped and not defending him makes me dumb. 
YOU HAVE NO CLUE. THOSE KIDS LEFT PENN ST ALOT BETTER PEOPLE THEN WHEN THEY CAME THERE.YES HE MADE ALOT OF MONEY AND YES HE GAVE BACK A BOAT LOAD OF MONEY TOO PENN ST. I HAVE THIS FEELING THEIR A BETTER CHANCE OF YOU SEEING HELL BEFORE JOEPA.
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