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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:07 PM ET #6876

    I'm 6-3-1 my last 9 college hoops bets lol. It's not like I'm capping bad
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    I'm 6-3-1 my last 9 college hoops bets lol. It's not like I'm capping bad
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:08 PM ET #6877

    Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:


    You really know how to hurt a bro, brah.

    Cut me to the quick, you did bra.

    But that's ok, I can let it go seeing as how your avatar shows you live in caves out in the middle of nowhere.  I can see how you haven't kept up with the language changes of the last 30 years.

    It's all cool and groovy with me, man...er...breh...er...brah.

    Got beat up on that exchange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:


    You really know how to hurt a bro, brah.

    Cut me to the quick, you did bra.

    But that's ok, I can let it go seeing as how your avatar shows you live in caves out in the middle of nowhere.  I can see how you haven't kept up with the language changes of the last 30 years.

    It's all cool and groovy with me, man...er...breh...er...brah.

    Got beat up on that exchange.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:08 PM ET #6878

    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I have to admit, I can't believe the number of people on here who still think they are going to get through to CG re. his approach.  

    Even if he wanted to, I don't think he could change.  And he doesn't want to.

    Folks have to let it go and just enjoy the ride.  Maybe do some coke if you need to.  Works for CG.  

    Yeah - I am done with this hutch.  From now on, its just watching the train wreck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I have to admit, I can't believe the number of people on here who still think they are going to get through to CG re. his approach.  

    Even if he wanted to, I don't think he could change.  And he doesn't want to.

    Folks have to let it go and just enjoy the ride.  Maybe do some coke if you need to.  Works for CG.  

    Yeah - I am done with this hutch.  From now on, its just watching the train wreck.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:09 PM ET #6879

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    Holy sh*t.  This BS is getting old.


    Van, Hes never in a million years gonna say he capped his losers wrong.  They are always just bad beats
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    Holy sh*t.  This BS is getting old.


    Van, Hes never in a million years gonna say he capped his losers wrong.  They are always just bad beats
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:09 PM ET #6880

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

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    and if he does clean up........how does that affect his %???


    I think most of us agree that CG is a decent capper. His win % isn't the problem. It's all the horrible decisions that are going to derail him
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    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

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    and if he does clean up........how does that affect his %???


    I think most of us agree that CG is a decent capper. His win % isn't the problem. It's all the horrible decisions that are going to derail him
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:10 PM ET #6881

    If anyone could watch a complete basketball game with Bill Walton as the announcer, they deserve to win their 1k wager.
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    If anyone could watch a complete basketball game with Bill Walton as the announcer, they deserve to win their 1k wager.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:11 PM ET #6882

    But, without the horrible decisions and crazy CG antics, this thread would be a bore.
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    But, without the horrible decisions and crazy CG antics, this thread would be a bore.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:12 PM ET #6883



    Hutch you have mail.
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    Hutch you have mail.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:13 PM ET #6884

    If Oregon were to not cover, what are the odds we see a 5k bomb tomorrow?

    NO -200
    YES +170
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    If Oregon were to not cover, what are the odds we see a 5k bomb tomorrow?

    NO -200
    YES +170
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:13 PM ET #6885

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    Holy sh*t.  This BS is getting old.
    Don't you dare quit on me/us now, and that goes for everyone...   one more night and tomorrow,  we owe ourselves that..       

     (BTW.. what does that emotion I just used mean?  Cool I'm guessing)



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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    Holy sh*t.  This BS is getting old.
    Don't you dare quit on me/us now, and that goes for everyone...   one more night and tomorrow,  we owe ourselves that..       

     (BTW.. what does that emotion I just used mean?  Cool I'm guessing)



     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:13 PM ET #6886

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    My one cousin was here with gf on vaca Monday - Thursday. My other cousin by himself got here Wednesday straying with me
      We got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    My one cousin was here with gf on vaca Monday - Thursday. My other cousin by himself got here Wednesday straying with me
      We got it.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:17 PM ET #6887

    Ducks up 5-4 after 4 minutes, and getting double digits.

    That classifies as a "brutal loss", if they fail to cover.

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    Ducks up 5-4 after 4 minutes, and getting double digits.

    That classifies as a "brutal loss", if they fail to cover.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:17 PM ET #6888

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    If anyone could watch a complete basketball game with Bill Walton as the announcer, they deserve to win their 1k wager.

    Last week, he and his announcer were rattling on and somehow the announcer asked Bill if he had ever "milked a cow."

    Of course, Bill says...

    "Yes, I have milked a cow and I have been milked."

    ..........................................................................................

    A very long pause ensued as the announcer laid out on him so hard you could feel the daggers staring into Walton's head.

    And then the game commentary resumed.

    Classic Bill Walton + a little dementia seeping in now.

    Funny as hell.

    PM for the skinny on the down low
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    If anyone could watch a complete basketball game with Bill Walton as the announcer, they deserve to win their 1k wager.

    Last week, he and his announcer were rattling on and somehow the announcer asked Bill if he had ever "milked a cow."

    Of course, Bill says...

    "Yes, I have milked a cow and I have been milked."

    ..........................................................................................

    A very long pause ensued as the announcer laid out on him so hard you could feel the daggers staring into Walton's head.

    And then the game commentary resumed.

    Classic Bill Walton + a little dementia seeping in now.

    Funny as hell.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:19 PM ET #6889

    I thought you couldn't bet in Las Vegas on NCAA sporting events happening in Las Vegas?

    You used to not be able to get UNLV lines there.

    Has this changed?

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    I thought you couldn't bet in Las Vegas on NCAA sporting events happening in Las Vegas?

    You used to not be able to get UNLV lines there.

    Has this changed?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:22 PM ET #6890

    Quote Originally Posted by broncofn:

    Just remembered that it is early in vegas. My good friend runs foxtail and LiFE at the SLS, If you and your cousin want to go tonight, let me know.

    What are these organizations and places?
    PM for the skinny on the down low
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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofn:

    Just remembered that it is early in vegas. My good friend runs foxtail and LiFE at the SLS, If you and your cousin want to go tonight, let me know.

    What are these organizations and places?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:22 PM ET #6891

    Van, i think it was just schools located in las vegas were off the board. Not all games played in vegas
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    Van, i think it was just schools located in las vegas were off the board. Not all games played in vegas
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:24 PM ET #6892

    so bottom line regardless of your excellent capping skills and judgement you have been there over a month and haven't made a dime .
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    so bottom line regardless of your excellent capping skills and judgement you have been there over a month and haven't made a dime .
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:29 PM ET #6893

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I thought you couldn't bet in Las Vegas on NCAA sporting events happening in Las Vegas?

    You used to not be able to get UNLV lines there.

    Has this changed?


    Yes, a few years ago  now. Maybe even several years tbh, time flies, but for sure you can now. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I thought you couldn't bet in Las Vegas on NCAA sporting events happening in Las Vegas?

    You used to not be able to get UNLV lines there.

    Has this changed?


    Yes, a few years ago  now. Maybe even several years tbh, time flies, but for sure you can now. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:30 PM ET #6894

    3 months shit lost track Your syndicate must be getting ready to put out a hit on you
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    3 months shit lost track Your syndicate must be getting ready to put out a hit on you
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:30 PM ET #6895

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I thought you couldn't bet in Las Vegas on NCAA sporting events happening in Las Vegas?

    You used to not be able to get UNLV lines there.

    Has this changed?


    To clarify, I believe you can bet on UNLV games in, and out of LV, along with any tournaments located there as well.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I thought you couldn't bet in Las Vegas on NCAA sporting events happening in Las Vegas?

    You used to not be able to get UNLV lines there.

    Has this changed?


    To clarify, I believe you can bet on UNLV games in, and out of LV, along with any tournaments located there as well.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:32 PM ET #6896

    "Weakness of attitude eventually turns in to weakness of character"

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    I think he has been reading this thread.

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    "Weakness of attitude eventually turns in to weakness of character"

    Bill Walton
    10:08 1st half AZ Oregon

    I think he has been reading this thread.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:34 PM ET #6897

    Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:


    To clarify, I believe you can bet on UNLV games in, and out of LV, along with any tournaments located there as well.  

    Yeah - I am sure you are right.  My knowledge is going back to 1990's UNLV, so I am sure it has changed by now.

    Just thought this was some agreement with the NCAA - so interested to hear if anyone has the story behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:


    To clarify, I believe you can bet on UNLV games in, and out of LV, along with any tournaments located there as well.  

    Yeah - I am sure you are right.  My knowledge is going back to 1990's UNLV, so I am sure it has changed by now.

    Just thought this was some agreement with the NCAA - so interested to hear if anyone has the story behind it.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2015 - 11:35 PM ET #6898

    Quote Originally Posted by Snake30:

    Rarely read the Covers Forums. Occasionally, I check out Vanzack's recent posts because I often learn something from the discussions. That's how I stumbled upon this thread, and I'll admit I'm hooked.

    Driving in the car today and noticed I was totally consumed with the CG Saga--why is this constantly on my mind? Then it hit me...It's because he does everything wrong! How many thousands has he already cost himself because of bad lines, paying full vigs, and making ridiculously high bets? These flaws are precisely why the story is so fascinating to me though.

    CG is like Worm from Rounders. If the movie only contained Matt Damon playing it safe, making the percentage moves, grinding it out at the table, it would be a boring movie. Luckily for us though, Worm was there to make it interesting. Doing time, hitting strip clubs, trying to beat Blackjack, and dealing from the bottom of the deck. You knew it was going to end badly, but it was entertaining as hell to watch.

    Major difference between Worm and CG however, is that Worm was mostly a likeable character. CG is not. He comes across as a "Wolf of Wallstreet" wannabe, and his douchebagerry only increases with success. The only time he comes close to being a sympathetic figure, or remotely likeable, is when he's at his lowest. Therefore, he plays the villain role perfectly, which only adds to the intrigue.

    I will admit, I actively root against every single bet he makes. I almost felt bad for him after the 0-8 streak, but that quickly changed after he won a couple and then continued to whine about every single loss being a bad beat. He is a blowhard without a clue, and that is why many want him to fail.

    There seems to be two camps present in the thread:

    Those who treat gambling as a science, and understand the importance of numbers and vigs. They mostly seem anti-CG, because they don't respect incompetence, and don't feel his approach deserves to be successful. For them, it's like hoping the clown playing 2-7 off suit gets what's deserved and loses his stack.

    The other group seems comprised of those who are very impressed with living the "lifestyle." They love the bragging about alcohol and drugs consumed, banging chicks, and kicking somebody's behind. They don't want to be concerned with the boring minutia of vig amounts, getting best number, beating closing line, and all of that BS. They love a guy who flies by the seat of his pants and "does it his own way." As VZ calls them, crystal ballers, and they just want to predict outcomes without having to do any of the meticulous stuff.

    I thank CG for his transparency, though I'm not sure if all his outside gambling exploits are true, but they make for an interesting read. Like Worm though, I get the feeling that deep down he really wants to lose. In the end, Worm lost the entire bankroll they had built, and got beat up. When he couldn't pay and was out of time, he told Mike, "it's highway time." That's what I see in my crystal ball.


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    Rarely read the Covers Forums. Occasionally, I check out Vanzack's recent posts because I often learn something from the discussions. That's how I stumbled upon this thread, and I'll admit I'm hooked.

    Driving in the car today and noticed I was totally consumed with the CG Saga--why is this constantly on my mind? Then it hit me...It's because he does everything wrong! How many thousands has he already cost himself because of bad lines, paying full vigs, and making ridiculously high bets? These flaws are precisely why the story is so fascinating to me though.

    CG is like Worm from Rounders. If the movie only contained Matt Damon playing it safe, making the percentage moves, grinding it out at the table, it would be a boring movie. Luckily for us though, Worm was there to make it interesting. Doing time, hitting strip clubs, trying to beat Blackjack, and dealing from the bottom of the deck. You knew it was going to end badly, but it was entertaining as hell to watch.

    Major difference between Worm and CG however, is that Worm was mostly a likeable character. CG is not. He comes across as a "Wolf of Wallstreet" wannabe, and his douchebagerry only increases with success. The only time he comes close to being a sympathetic figure, or remotely likeable, is when he's at his lowest. Therefore, he plays the villain role perfectly, which only adds to the intrigue.

    I will admit, I actively root against every single bet he makes. I almost felt bad for him after the 0-8 streak, but that quickly changed after he won a couple and then continued to whine about every single loss being a bad beat. He is a blowhard without a clue, and that is why many want him to fail.

    There seems to be two camps present in the thread:

    Those who treat gambling as a science, and understand the importance of numbers and vigs. They mostly seem anti-CG, because they don't respect incompetence, and don't feel his approach deserves to be successful. For them, it's like hoping the clown playing 2-7 off suit gets what's deserved and loses his stack.

    The other group seems comprised of those who are very impressed with living the "lifestyle." They love the bragging about alcohol and drugs consumed, banging chicks, and kicking somebody's behind. They don't want to be concerned with the boring minutia of vig amounts, getting best number, beating closing line, and all of that BS. They love a guy who flies by the seat of his pants and "does it his own way." As VZ calls them, crystal ballers, and they just want to predict outcomes without having to do any of the meticulous stuff.

    I thank CG for his transparency, though I'm not sure if all his outside gambling exploits are true, but they make for an interesting read. Like Worm though, I get the feeling that deep down he really wants to lose. In the end, Worm lost the entire bankroll they had built, and got beat up. When he couldn't pay and was out of time, he told Mike, "it's highway time." That's what I see in my crystal ball.


     
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