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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 7:48 AM ET #526

    GOOSE I was reading about the 72 Oz steak challenge at the Big Texan in Amarillo and I can eat a ton but I'll be going through around lunch time.. Can't eat that then shittt my pants the rest of my trip today haha
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    GOOSE I was reading about the 72 Oz steak challenge at the Big Texan in Amarillo and I can eat a ton but I'll be going through around lunch time.. Can't eat that then shittt my pants the rest of my trip today haha
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 10:05 AM ET #527

    The more I read this thread the more I say:

    My 'road trip' to Vegas would consist of me pulling out if my driveway ...and pulling back in.

    LOVE to visit. But visit only. Not to live.
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    The more I read this thread the more I say:

    My 'road trip' to Vegas would consist of me pulling out if my driveway ...and pulling back in.

    LOVE to visit. But visit only. Not to live.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    The more I read this thread the more I say:

    My 'road trip' to Vegas would consist of me pulling out if my driveway ...and pulling back in.

    LOVE to visit. But visit only. Not to live.

    When I was in my early 20's I had pipe-dreams of moving to Vegas and making it big.  So naive of me.  Never would have worked, heII at that age I could barely make it in Chicago living with my parents, would have been a disaster.  

    Then after a failed relationship, in my early 30's that dream again came to the surface.  This time I knew gambling had to be on the back burner, and I intended to try and get a job as a dealer, or some other hotel/service job, and maybe try to supplement things by playing poker part-time.  I did some research on things, even applied for a few jobs, but that's as far as it went.  Again, I'm not sure it would have worked, as I don't think my plan was in tune with reality.  In the end, I'm glad I didn't go, as looking back I think I've grown much more as a person the past 6-7 years than I ever would have out there.  Even if I do have some regrets about not taking chances in my younger days, or doing more spontaneous things, I am happy with my decisions and where it's gotten me.  I still have a lot of time to explore the world and do cool things, and it will just be from a different perspective now.  Now I just have to get my step-kids into through college and out of the house!!

    But that's just me.  Everyone has their own path, and I admire CG for taking a risk, and hope it works out. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    The more I read this thread the more I say:

    My 'road trip' to Vegas would consist of me pulling out if my driveway ...and pulling back in.

    LOVE to visit. But visit only. Not to live.

    When I was in my early 20's I had pipe-dreams of moving to Vegas and making it big.  So naive of me.  Never would have worked, heII at that age I could barely make it in Chicago living with my parents, would have been a disaster.  

    Then after a failed relationship, in my early 30's that dream again came to the surface.  This time I knew gambling had to be on the back burner, and I intended to try and get a job as a dealer, or some other hotel/service job, and maybe try to supplement things by playing poker part-time.  I did some research on things, even applied for a few jobs, but that's as far as it went.  Again, I'm not sure it would have worked, as I don't think my plan was in tune with reality.  In the end, I'm glad I didn't go, as looking back I think I've grown much more as a person the past 6-7 years than I ever would have out there.  Even if I do have some regrets about not taking chances in my younger days, or doing more spontaneous things, I am happy with my decisions and where it's gotten me.  I still have a lot of time to explore the world and do cool things, and it will just be from a different perspective now.  Now I just have to get my step-kids into through college and out of the house!!

    But that's just me.  Everyone has their own path, and I admire CG for taking a risk, and hope it works out. 

     
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    Been working so hard
    I'm punching my card
    Eight hours for what
    Oh, tell me what I got

    I've got this feeling
    That times are just holding me down
    I'll hit the ceiling
    Or else I'll tear up this town

    Now I gotta cut loose, footloose
    Kick off your Sunday shoes
    Lose your blues
    Everybody cut footloose

    You're playing so cool
    Obeying every rule
    Deep way down in your heart
    You're burning yearning for some

    Somebody to tell you
    That life ain't passing you by
    I'm trying to tell you
    It will if you don't even try

    You can fly if you'd only cut loose, footloose
    Kick off your Sunday shoes

    Lose your blues, everybody cut footloose
    Everybody cut, everybody cut
    Everybody cut, everybody cut
    Everybody cut footloose


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    Been working so hard
    I'm punching my card
    Eight hours for what
    Oh, tell me what I got

    I've got this feeling
    That times are just holding me down
    I'll hit the ceiling
    Or else I'll tear up this town

    Now I gotta cut loose, footloose
    Kick off your Sunday shoes
    Lose your blues
    Everybody cut footloose

    You're playing so cool
    Obeying every rule
    Deep way down in your heart
    You're burning yearning for some

    Somebody to tell you
    That life ain't passing you by
    I'm trying to tell you
    It will if you don't even try

    You can fly if you'd only cut loose, footloose
    Kick off your Sunday shoes

    Lose your blues, everybody cut footloose
    Everybody cut, everybody cut
    Everybody cut, everybody cut
    Everybody cut footloose


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ziL3qNdcYM
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 11:12 AM ET #530

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    A couple of reasons...

    First is the town itself (not related to gambling).  I stayed at Venetian, as I have for the last several visits to LV.  I always get a rental car.  When you leave Venetian - you are instantly in meth central.  And I have seen more of these neighborhoods in Vegas than in an average city.  Admittedly, it is a totally limited experience - but I haven't seen the beauty in Vegas until you get far outside of Vegas.  And the traffic.

    Second- for gambling - for what I do - it is virtually impossible.  I have to get the best line at the exact right time.  This is close to impossible in Vegas.  I was out for the SB, and just getting from sportsbook to sportsbook is a nightmare.  Then getting inside - and try to make any bet of size - and you have "do you have a players card" followed by paperwork.  Then when you collect (I didn't unfortunately on the SB), more of this.  Wanna bet more than 1k on a big European soccer game?  Some will take it, but most wont.  They look at you like you have some fix information about a English Premier League game because you want to bet 5k.

    Then throw in that you are always paying more than you should (-110).  So logistics and limits make it not only annoying, but make it unprofitable long term for me.

    I realize these are personal reasons.  But since you asked - those are my reasons.

    You are a little off in your statement about getting around from book to book and getting the right line at the right time.......You do know most Vegas books have aps for your phone where you can shop lines and bet from the convienience of your own couch, right
    It is available for Nevada residents and in this case CG is a Nevada resident
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    A couple of reasons...

    First is the town itself (not related to gambling).  I stayed at Venetian, as I have for the last several visits to LV.  I always get a rental car.  When you leave Venetian - you are instantly in meth central.  And I have seen more of these neighborhoods in Vegas than in an average city.  Admittedly, it is a totally limited experience - but I haven't seen the beauty in Vegas until you get far outside of Vegas.  And the traffic.

    Second- for gambling - for what I do - it is virtually impossible.  I have to get the best line at the exact right time.  This is close to impossible in Vegas.  I was out for the SB, and just getting from sportsbook to sportsbook is a nightmare.  Then getting inside - and try to make any bet of size - and you have "do you have a players card" followed by paperwork.  Then when you collect (I didn't unfortunately on the SB), more of this.  Wanna bet more than 1k on a big European soccer game?  Some will take it, but most wont.  They look at you like you have some fix information about a English Premier League game because you want to bet 5k.

    Then throw in that you are always paying more than you should (-110).  So logistics and limits make it not only annoying, but make it unprofitable long term for me.

    I realize these are personal reasons.  But since you asked - those are my reasons.

    You are a little off in your statement about getting around from book to book and getting the right line at the right time.......You do know most Vegas books have aps for your phone where you can shop lines and bet from the convienience of your own couch, right
    It is available for Nevada residents and in this case CG is a Nevada resident
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas:

    You are a little off in your statement about getting around from book to book and getting the right line at the right time.......You do know most Vegas books have aps for your phone where you can shop lines and bet from the convienience of your own couch, right
    It is available for Nevada residents and in this case CG is a Nevada resident

    I understand.  But in order to get a CG account - you have to turn over your SS number and your DL.  I assumed from the discussions in the thread that that was not a preferred option.

    And BTW - CG app sucks balls.  It is downright terrible.  Not saying that should stop you because you are right - you can bet from your house - but why cant they put out a decent app?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas:

    You are a little off in your statement about getting around from book to book and getting the right line at the right time.......You do know most Vegas books have aps for your phone where you can shop lines and bet from the convienience of your own couch, right
    It is available for Nevada residents and in this case CG is a Nevada resident

    I understand.  But in order to get a CG account - you have to turn over your SS number and your DL.  I assumed from the discussions in the thread that that was not a preferred option.

    And BTW - CG app sucks balls.  It is downright terrible.  Not saying that should stop you because you are right - you can bet from your house - but why cant they put out a decent app?

     
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    Just realized CG in your post is College Gambler, and CG in my post is Cantor Gaming.

    But it still works.

     

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    Just realized CG in your post is College Gambler, and CG in my post is Cantor Gaming.

    But it still works.

     

     
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    I agree  Van, the apps are not great.  William Hill is the best of the bunch.  I was just pointing out that you don't have to drive from place to place to shop lines, get down bets. I usually post up at a book, and surf the app's. 
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    I agree  Van, the apps are not great.  William Hill is the best of the bunch.  I was just pointing out that you don't have to drive from place to place to shop lines, get down bets. I usually post up at a book, and surf the app's. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:


    When I was in my early 20's I had pipe-dreams of moving to Vegas and making it big.  So naive of me.  Never would have worked, heII at that age I could barely make it in Chicago living with my parents, would have been a disaster.  

    Then after a failed relationship, in my early 30's that dream again came to the surface.  This time I knew gambling had to be on the back burner, and I intended to try and get a job as a dealer, or some other hotel/service job, and maybe try to supplement things by playing poker part-time.  I did some research on things, even applied for a few jobs, but that's as far as it went.  Again, I'm not sure it would have worked, as I don't think my plan was in tune with reality.  In the end, I'm glad I didn't go, as looking back I think I've grown much more as a person the past 6-7 years than I ever would have out there.  Even if I do have some regrets about not taking chances in my younger days, or doing more spontaneous things, I am happy with my decisions and where it's gotten me.  I still have a lot of time to explore the world and do cool things, and it will just be from a different perspective now.  Now I just have to get my step-kids into through college and out of the house!!

    But that's just me.  Everyone has their own path, and I admire CG for taking a risk, and hope it works out. 



    And to add to that, you have step-kids which means you are married and are not 'in the game'. Good choice.

    We all try to 'marry up' in way don't we? It's a tough sell to 'marry up' when they ask you what you do and you say "professional gambler."

    Now if you pay all your bills, have a nice place, have a stable lifestyle, it can work (and be great in fact with income beyond your biggest expectations).

    People on this site have proven it can work. But the hurdles are enormous.

    But if you are currently a single guy and a pro gambler, renting an apartment and eating from the flamingo buffet every night, it's a tough sell to a girl you love.

    Even some of the richest gamblers have highly dysfunctional relationships. Look at pro poker players.

    If you are not interested in marriage or kids, ignore this post. No hurdles in this regard.
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    When I was in my early 20's I had pipe-dreams of moving to Vegas and making it big.  So naive of me.  Never would have worked, heII at that age I could barely make it in Chicago living with my parents, would have been a disaster.  

    Then after a failed relationship, in my early 30's that dream again came to the surface.  This time I knew gambling had to be on the back burner, and I intended to try and get a job as a dealer, or some other hotel/service job, and maybe try to supplement things by playing poker part-time.  I did some research on things, even applied for a few jobs, but that's as far as it went.  Again, I'm not sure it would have worked, as I don't think my plan was in tune with reality.  In the end, I'm glad I didn't go, as looking back I think I've grown much more as a person the past 6-7 years than I ever would have out there.  Even if I do have some regrets about not taking chances in my younger days, or doing more spontaneous things, I am happy with my decisions and where it's gotten me.  I still have a lot of time to explore the world and do cool things, and it will just be from a different perspective now.  Now I just have to get my step-kids into through college and out of the house!!

    But that's just me.  Everyone has their own path, and I admire CG for taking a risk, and hope it works out. 



    And to add to that, you have step-kids which means you are married and are not 'in the game'. Good choice.

    We all try to 'marry up' in way don't we? It's a tough sell to 'marry up' when they ask you what you do and you say "professional gambler."

    Now if you pay all your bills, have a nice place, have a stable lifestyle, it can work (and be great in fact with income beyond your biggest expectations).

    People on this site have proven it can work. But the hurdles are enormous.

    But if you are currently a single guy and a pro gambler, renting an apartment and eating from the flamingo buffet every night, it's a tough sell to a girl you love.

    Even some of the richest gamblers have highly dysfunctional relationships. Look at pro poker players.

    If you are not interested in marriage or kids, ignore this post. No hurdles in this regard.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 2:51 PM ET #535

    In New Mexico fellas first pro play tommoro!!! Will catch up on thread when settled tonight
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 2:57 PM ET #536

    Anyone on Instagram feel free to add me my name is "sharklarge" tried to get each state welcome sign missed Virginia and Oklahoma though
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    Anyone on Instagram feel free to add me my name is "sharklarge" tried to get each state welcome sign missed Virginia and Oklahoma though
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 3:03 PM ET #537

    Sonata is unreal on gas only filled up 4.5 times so far totaling around $100 and got 375 miles till empty. Gotta look through receipts. Tax deductable. Moving expense!
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 7:35 PM ET #538

    Settled in Gullop, NM for the evening. 33 hours down 6 to go until I'm in my new home of Las Vegas, nv
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    Settled in Gullop, NM for the evening. 33 hours down 6 to go until I'm in my new home of Las Vegas, nv
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I did not get out "just in time".  I got out like 3 years ahead of time.  And anyone should have gotten out 3 years ahead of time - WSEX closing was a very slow burn.

    I can read between the lines at your skepticism - but just read my past posts here.  I never once said play at beted or oddsmaker or bovada or sportsbook.  In fact, I have never recommended a book that closed.  That might just be luck - and I am sure I am not immune to it because anything can happen - but you cant compare Beted to Pinnacle.  You just cant.

    And I have no idea what your last statement means.



    You said you got out three years before they closed, to which I responded (in effect) that there was a long period of time (before they locked the doors) that it was virtually impossible to make a w/d, so that effectively you had about six months clearance.

    I actually give you a lot of credit as a sharp guy and believably someone that has success gambling, but just as Vegas Gourmet (who seems to be the most versed guy on the streets of Vegas) you sometimes seem to post to pat yourself on the back. It's generally a good read though.

    But I'm certain you actually got that.

    Let's focus on CG though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I did not get out "just in time".  I got out like 3 years ahead of time.  And anyone should have gotten out 3 years ahead of time - WSEX closing was a very slow burn.

    I can read between the lines at your skepticism - but just read my past posts here.  I never once said play at beted or oddsmaker or bovada or sportsbook.  In fact, I have never recommended a book that closed.  That might just be luck - and I am sure I am not immune to it because anything can happen - but you cant compare Beted to Pinnacle.  You just cant.

    And I have no idea what your last statement means.



    You said you got out three years before they closed, to which I responded (in effect) that there was a long period of time (before they locked the doors) that it was virtually impossible to make a w/d, so that effectively you had about six months clearance.

    I actually give you a lot of credit as a sharp guy and believably someone that has success gambling, but just as Vegas Gourmet (who seems to be the most versed guy on the streets of Vegas) you sometimes seem to post to pat yourself on the back. It's generally a good read though.

    But I'm certain you actually got that.

    Let's focus on CG though.


     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 8:57 PM ET #540

    Welcome to Lost Wages!!!
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 9:20 PM ET #541

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Sonata is unreal on gas only filled up 4.5 times so far totaling around $100 and got 375 miles till empty. Gotta look through receipts. Tax deductable. Moving expense!

    Your going to need a bit more deductions than that to overcome the 10.5 g personal exemption or so it is this year,filing Single..Did you file 2014 yet? Think about what you are going to state as occupation on next year's return? And aware that low reported income affects your SS payments down the road (If still in existence whatever year you could 'retire'?)

    Hope it's not a splash of cold water on the face but don't darn with the IRS.They are nicer nowadays.you pick how and when

    Have a great ride into LV

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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Sonata is unreal on gas only filled up 4.5 times so far totaling around $100 and got 375 miles till empty. Gotta look through receipts. Tax deductable. Moving expense!

    Your going to need a bit more deductions than that to overcome the 10.5 g personal exemption or so it is this year,filing Single..Did you file 2014 yet? Think about what you are going to state as occupation on next year's return? And aware that low reported income affects your SS payments down the road (If still in existence whatever year you could 'retire'?)

    Hope it's not a splash of cold water on the face but don't darn with the IRS.They are nicer nowadays.you pick how and when

    Have a great ride into LV

     
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    Sedona, AZ is about 25 miles South of Flagstaff.  Some of the most gorgeous scenery in the entire USA and I'm not exaggerating.
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    Sedona, AZ is about 25 miles South of Flagstaff.  Some of the most gorgeous scenery in the entire USA and I'm not exaggerating.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2015 - 12:17 AM ET #543

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Sonata is unreal on gas only filled up 4.5 times so far totaling around $100 and got 375 miles till empty. Gotta look through receipts. Tax deductable. Moving expense!

    I doubt you will itemize and I don't think the moving expense deduction applies unless you have a "normal" job that you are moving to.  Don't bother.

    Safe trip the rest of the way. 
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    Sonata is unreal on gas only filled up 4.5 times so far totaling around $100 and got 375 miles till empty. Gotta look through receipts. Tax deductable. Moving expense!

    I doubt you will itemize and I don't think the moving expense deduction applies unless you have a "normal" job that you are moving to.  Don't bother.

    Safe trip the rest of the way. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2015 - 1:11 AM ET #544

    Quote Originally Posted by KennyWoo:


    I doubt you will itemize and I don't think the moving expense deduction applies unless you have a "normal" job that you are moving to.  Don't bother.

    Safe trip the rest of the way. 



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    I doubt you will itemize and I don't think the moving expense deduction applies unless you have a "normal" job that you are moving to.  Don't bother.

    Safe trip the rest of the way. 



     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2015 - 4:41 AM ET #545

    I'll tail all your bets for 10% the amount you take them for, CG. Get it done.
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2015 - 7:34 AM ET #546

    Up early in New Mexico should be leaving here by around 7 mountain time or so
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     Good luck friend 
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    Sedona, AZ is about 25 miles South of Flagstaff.  Some of the most gorgeous scenery in the entire USA and I'm not exaggerating.

    Fact.

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    Sedona, AZ is about 25 miles South of Flagstaff.  Some of the most gorgeous scenery in the entire USA and I'm not exaggerating.

    Fact.

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