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    jthollywood
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 8:44 PM ET #351

    Colonel or Scirp,
    Who's keeping score here on this game. It looks like we have a few more people come in with their picks. We have a few more guys on Chicago and under and a total of two guys in here that like Grey's Anatomy.
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    Colonel or Scirp,
    Who's keeping score here on this game. It looks like we have a few more people come in with their picks. We have a few more guys on Chicago and under and a total of two guys in here that like Grey's Anatomy.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 9:55 PM ET #352

    People say that P. Manning will shred the Bears "D" with his talents.  I like the BEARS a lot, but the P.anning factor scares me. 
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    People say that P. Manning will shred the Bears "D" with his talents.  I like the BEARS a lot, but the P.anning factor scares me. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 10:02 PM ET #353

    Here's the latest update, fellas....be sure to vote!!! Bears/Under - 6 (DaDonk, hollywood, Tauntstreet, Col. Jim, Tex101 & Gators1511) Bears/Over - 4 (Buckner, JWishbone, Irisheyes, IronOaks) Colts/Under - 7 (stoplyin', BreakaBookie, FlyHi, tulanebill, Lucho, spankster, lookintowin) Colts/Over - 8 (playmaker, phancard, Hunted466, 3rd&Long, settleup, Dr. J JGambler and Grego) I am only calculating votes that include both the side and the total! Good luck fellas!
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    Here's the latest update, fellas....be sure to vote!!! Bears/Under - 6 (DaDonk, hollywood, Tauntstreet, Col. Jim, Tex101 & Gators1511) Bears/Over - 4 (Buckner, JWishbone, Irisheyes, IronOaks) Colts/Under - 7 (stoplyin', BreakaBookie, FlyHi, tulanebill, Lucho, spankster, lookintowin) Colts/Over - 8 (playmaker, phancard, Hunted466, 3rd&Long, settleup, Dr. J JGambler and Grego) I am only calculating votes that include both the side and the total! Good luck fellas!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 10:06 PM ET #354

    That did not post correctly for some reason...let's try again!
     
    Here's the latest update, fellas....be sure to vote!!!
     
    Bears/Under - 6 (DaDonk, hollywood, Tauntstreet, Col. Jim, Tex101 & Gators1511)
     
    Bears/Over - 4 (Buckner,  JWishbone,  Irisheyes, IronOaks)
     
    Colts/Under - 7 (stoplyin', BreakaBookie, FlyHi, tulanebill, Lucho, spankster,
                             and lookintowin)
     
    Colts/Over - 8 (playmaker, phancard, Hunted466, 3rd&Long, settleup, Dr. J, 
                             JGambler and Grego)
     
    I am only calculating votes that include both the side and the total!
     
    Good luck fellas!
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    That did not post correctly for some reason...let's try again!
     
    Here's the latest update, fellas....be sure to vote!!!
     
    Bears/Under - 6 (DaDonk, hollywood, Tauntstreet, Col. Jim, Tex101 & Gators1511)
     
    Bears/Over - 4 (Buckner,  JWishbone,  Irisheyes, IronOaks)
     
    Colts/Under - 7 (stoplyin', BreakaBookie, FlyHi, tulanebill, Lucho, spankster,
                             and lookintowin)
     
    Colts/Over - 8 (playmaker, phancard, Hunted466, 3rd&Long, settleup, Dr. J, 
                             JGambler and Grego)
     
    I am only calculating votes that include both the side and the total!
     
    Good luck fellas!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 10:11 PM ET #355

    3rd & long,
     
    I'm one of those people started out liking the Colts w/Manning, but the more I look at the pt. spread, the more I leaned toward the Bears.  My gutis telling me the Colts will win, but cover not so "sure".  Can you shed some light on my blight?   
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    3rd & long,
     
    I'm one of those people started out liking the Colts w/Manning, but the more I look at the pt. spread, the more I leaned toward the Bears.  My gutis telling me the Colts will win, but cover not so "sure".  Can you shed some light on my blight?   
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 10:26 PM ET #356

    dsa1771 - I don't think I could add any more as to why I like the Colts here - read from the beginning.
    Read it all, the arguments from both sides, and make your call. Lots of information, figuring out what matters is the hard part. Trust your instinct.
    I do think the line will be less than 7 by gametime if that changes anything. I think people are scared of the number more than they like the Bears, just my opinion. And there is no "sure" - ever. Just confidence, information, experience & luck.
     
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    dsa1771 - I don't think I could add any more as to why I like the Colts here - read from the beginning.
    Read it all, the arguments from both sides, and make your call. Lots of information, figuring out what matters is the hard part. Trust your instinct.
    I do think the line will be less than 7 by gametime if that changes anything. I think people are scared of the number more than they like the Bears, just my opinion. And there is no "sure" - ever. Just confidence, information, experience & luck.
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 10:48 PM ET #357

    It's sure is interesting when you itemize all the 'cappers and their picks.  You know, I didn't think much of it a few weeks back but it actually seemed to help with the picks.
     
    Thanks Coloneljim
     
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    It's sure is interesting when you itemize all the 'cappers and their picks.  You know, I didn't think much of it a few weeks back but it actually seemed to help with the picks.
     
    Thanks Coloneljim
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 10:52 PM ET #358

    Oh and Irisheys, I too am on quite the roll in college BB.  I don't like playing NBA anymore and like the purity of the college game.
     
    This week (Sunday-Wednesday): 9-3
     
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    Oh and Irisheys, I too am on quite the roll in college BB.  I don't like playing NBA anymore and like the purity of the college game.
     
    This week (Sunday-Wednesday): 9-3
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2007 - 11:52 PM ET #359

    That still looked lousy...let's try it this way...be sure to vote!
     
    6 for the Bears/Under
    DaDonk, hollywood, Tauntstreet, Colonel Jim, Tex101 and Gators1511
     
    4 for the Bears/Over
    Buckner,  JWishbone,  Irisheyes and IronOaks
     
    7 for the Colts/Under
    stoplyin', BreakaBookie, FlyHi, tulanebill, Lucho, spankster and lookintowin
     
    8 for the Colts/Over
    playmaker, phancard, Hunted466, 3rd&Long, settleup, Dr. J,  JGambler and Grego
     
    Roughly 90 hours until kick-off...good luck fellas!
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    That still looked lousy...let's try it this way...be sure to vote!
     
    6 for the Bears/Under
    DaDonk, hollywood, Tauntstreet, Colonel Jim, Tex101 and Gators1511
     
    4 for the Bears/Over
    Buckner,  JWishbone,  Irisheyes and IronOaks
     
    7 for the Colts/Under
    stoplyin', BreakaBookie, FlyHi, tulanebill, Lucho, spankster and lookintowin
     
    8 for the Colts/Over
    playmaker, phancard, Hunted466, 3rd&Long, settleup, Dr. J,  JGambler and Grego
     
    Roughly 90 hours until kick-off...good luck fellas!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 12:06 AM ET #360

    BEARS/OVER (AS ALWAYS) with a BEARS ML
     
    For right now, just two words in my analysis FIELD POSITION!!!
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    BEARS/OVER (AS ALWAYS) with a BEARS ML
     
    For right now, just two words in my analysis FIELD POSITION!!!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 12:46 AM ET #361

    3rd,
     
    I'm sure that i'll put my $ the colts on the money line.  thanx for the advice.
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    3rd,
     
    I'm sure that i'll put my $ the colts on the money line.  thanx for the advice.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 1:05 AM ET #362

    dsa - Good Luck   
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    dsa - Good Luck   
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 1:48 AM ET #363

    COLTS - 7
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 3:29 AM ET #364

    DA BEARS =+7
    MOST UNDERDOGS SEEM TO WIN BIG GAMES THIS YEAR!
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    DA BEARS =+7
    MOST UNDERDOGS SEEM TO WIN BIG GAMES THIS YEAR!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 9:29 AM ET #365

    I would like to add to your running tally of side/totals scorpio, if i may.  just a quick intro... i have been following the game threads pretty much all year just ot get a feel fro whats out there.  this is for the record, my first post ever.
     
    my take here is that there is no way in hell we can predict what is going to happen here.  an educatd guess is even out of the question.  however, we can determine what the main factors of the big game will be.  my opinion is that this game has to be broken down for each team seperately and then from there we can "bac k into" a decision.
     
    for me... the BEARS major factors are;
     
    1.  Defensive Line - in order for these guys to have any chance in this game, it all begins here.  The front line of the Chicago defense MUST get to PM quickly, and I mean within 3 seconds every time.  If they fail to do so on a regular basis then PM will seek and destroy the Bears.
     
    2.  Offensive Line/Running Game-  this one is obvious.  the BEARS have done very well in the run game this year and the COLTS, we all know (32nd ranked run defense).  I will not look to the playoffs as an indicator of improved run defense for the Colts because there are a number of factors that can discredit them.  CHIEFS- Did not run the ball like they did all year, Ravens can't run the ball on anyone, PATS got into a shootout.  The bottom line here is that a strong run game will limit PM's exposure of the Bears D.
     
     
    You can go into all the Special Teams crap and turnovers etc.  no one could tell you what is going to happen with those intangibles. 
     
    For the COLTS
     
    1.  OFFENSIVE LINE (pass blocking)-  If PM gets the time he needs (3 seconds)... The colts win by more than 7.
     
    2.  Run Defense-  If the Colts show up here again this week then the game will be a toss up.  even without great pass blocking.
     
    My guess is that PM will get the time he needs.  This means that the Bears fail to pressure PM like they need to.  The Bears will run it pretty good but will have to abandon because they will be down by too many points to sustain their run game.  This will lead to...
     
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    I would like to add to your running tally of side/totals scorpio, if i may.  just a quick intro... i have been following the game threads pretty much all year just ot get a feel fro whats out there.  this is for the record, my first post ever.
     
    my take here is that there is no way in hell we can predict what is going to happen here.  an educatd guess is even out of the question.  however, we can determine what the main factors of the big game will be.  my opinion is that this game has to be broken down for each team seperately and then from there we can "bac k into" a decision.
     
    for me... the BEARS major factors are;
     
    1.  Defensive Line - in order for these guys to have any chance in this game, it all begins here.  The front line of the Chicago defense MUST get to PM quickly, and I mean within 3 seconds every time.  If they fail to do so on a regular basis then PM will seek and destroy the Bears.
     
    2.  Offensive Line/Running Game-  this one is obvious.  the BEARS have done very well in the run game this year and the COLTS, we all know (32nd ranked run defense).  I will not look to the playoffs as an indicator of improved run defense for the Colts because there are a number of factors that can discredit them.  CHIEFS- Did not run the ball like they did all year, Ravens can't run the ball on anyone, PATS got into a shootout.  The bottom line here is that a strong run game will limit PM's exposure of the Bears D.
     
     
    You can go into all the Special Teams crap and turnovers etc.  no one could tell you what is going to happen with those intangibles. 
     
    For the COLTS
     
    1.  OFFENSIVE LINE (pass blocking)-  If PM gets the time he needs (3 seconds)... The colts win by more than 7.
     
    2.  Run Defense-  If the Colts show up here again this week then the game will be a toss up.  even without great pass blocking.
     
    My guess is that PM will get the time he needs.  This means that the Bears fail to pressure PM like they need to.  The Bears will run it pretty good but will have to abandon because they will be down by too many points to sustain their run game.  This will lead to...
     
    COLTS/UNDER
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 11:31 AM ET #366

    Quote Originally Posted by drJ:

    aloha BDhpd, it was Trent Dilfer, who actually hit a few long passes in that game and played most of the year with minimal turnovers.
    im most curious what PROPS you're playing.
    Hey 3rd, if i had 7K riding on a win alone id probably do alot of colts prop bets and not so much -7 but thats me.  God help me im a closet Raider fan and my bacon got saved with prop bets in that  SB loss toTB, where Gannon passed for a ton (to both teams)
    of course if you emotionally feel the need for the full Monte by all means let er rip.
    Speaking of which, SCORPIO and JT you guys need to truly understand why PM does all his checkdowns, Jeff Saturday has a horrible gas problem, its a survival issue.
     
     
    lol.  I knew it was Dilfer but I was just making a point on how forgetful the Ravens QB was.
    As far as the prop bets they are done here at a local house to where you can place bets on who will win the coin toss, first score td or field goal, etc. I placed a wager on almost every one.
     
    Actually it is interesting that you bring up the Raider/Tampa game cause if i remember correctly that season Tampa was a passing team throughout the regular season that year, but there running game won them their Super Bowl title. While the Raiders was so strong on offense with all the talent they had that year only to come out flat in the Super Bowl.
     
    Aloha and good luck to all
     
     
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    aloha BDhpd, it was Trent Dilfer, who actually hit a few long passes in that game and played most of the year with minimal turnovers.
    im most curious what PROPS you're playing.
    Hey 3rd, if i had 7K riding on a win alone id probably do alot of colts prop bets and not so much -7 but thats me.  God help me im a closet Raider fan and my bacon got saved with prop bets in that  SB loss toTB, where Gannon passed for a ton (to both teams)
    of course if you emotionally feel the need for the full Monte by all means let er rip.
    Speaking of which, SCORPIO and JT you guys need to truly understand why PM does all his checkdowns, Jeff Saturday has a horrible gas problem, its a survival issue.
     
     
    lol.  I knew it was Dilfer but I was just making a point on how forgetful the Ravens QB was.
    As far as the prop bets they are done here at a local house to where you can place bets on who will win the coin toss, first score td or field goal, etc. I placed a wager on almost every one.
     
    Actually it is interesting that you bring up the Raider/Tampa game cause if i remember correctly that season Tampa was a passing team throughout the regular season that year, but there running game won them their Super Bowl title. While the Raiders was so strong on offense with all the talent they had that year only to come out flat in the Super Bowl.
     
    Aloha and good luck to all
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 11:38 AM ET #368

    scorpio, heres my play, for what its worth, bears ML +210 and under. ( with these two teams, i just see a lot more value with the bears, and when i take a dog in a situation like this, i nearly always go ML ) be back on sunday, bro, gotta get back to nba/ ncaab         
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    scorpio, heres my play, for what its worth, bears ML +210 and under. ( with these two teams, i just see a lot more value with the bears, and when i take a dog in a situation like this, i nearly always go ML ) be back on sunday, bro, gotta get back to nba/ ncaab         
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 1:19 PM ET #369

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunted466:

    Smokey- I think it depends on the book. Sportsbook pays on props as they happen. I.E.  I cashed in @ +800 on that beautiful Brees grounding call (Safety)in the NFC Champ game and was paid right away. No comments from anybody on how dumb of a bet that is. Please, I already know, but what the hell? This is my last hoorah until August and I'm betting on every damn thing in the game. I can't stomach betting on  - --. and it gives my liver a rest.
     
       AND THE OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .........and tails...........lol
     
    Thank you Hunted & Scorp, I contacted my book to get that info. That was a nice hit on the +800 Hunted. Thats what this time of the season is all about. Thats something you won't forget anythime soon.
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    Smokey- I think it depends on the book. Sportsbook pays on props as they happen. I.E.  I cashed in @ +800 on that beautiful Brees grounding call (Safety)in the NFC Champ game and was paid right away. No comments from anybody on how dumb of a bet that is. Please, I already know, but what the hell? This is my last hoorah until August and I'm betting on every damn thing in the game. I can't stomach betting on  - --. and it gives my liver a rest.
     
       AND THE OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .........and tails...........lol
     
    Thank you Hunted & Scorp, I contacted my book to get that info. That was a nice hit on the +800 Hunted. Thats what this time of the season is all about. Thats something you won't forget anythime soon.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 1:39 PM ET #370

    WOW talk about beating a dead horse. I can't beleive how they can let this thread run like this. Anyways it's kind of sad that this is the last thread regarding football. I'm going to miss reading all of your posts. Even the spirited exchanges. Anyways it's been a pleaseure having been able to exchange perspectives with all of you and I respect all of your insight. the refreshing part of these threads are that we are able to get past that fatty top layer of national media "story line" and "Big Game" hype. We have insight and inside information and knowledge from different people who are all able to bring expertise in different areas of the game to fruition. So it has been a pleasure and good luck to you all
     
     
     
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    WOW talk about beating a dead horse. I can't beleive how they can let this thread run like this. Anyways it's kind of sad that this is the last thread regarding football. I'm going to miss reading all of your posts. Even the spirited exchanges. Anyways it's been a pleaseure having been able to exchange perspectives with all of you and I respect all of your insight. the refreshing part of these threads are that we are able to get past that fatty top layer of national media "story line" and "Big Game" hype. We have insight and inside information and knowledge from different people who are all able to bring expertise in different areas of the game to fruition. So it has been a pleasure and good luck to you all
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 1:48 PM ET #371

    Here's what I have put in so far :
     
    Big play on the Bears +7
     
    As for props:
    Winning Margin Line-  Bears win by 1-3 pts (8-1 odds)
     
    MVP Thomas Jones (10-1 odds)
    MVP Brian Urlacher (18-1 odds)
    MVP Robbie Gould (40-1 odds)
     
    I'm still undecided what I'm going to do about Under/Over.....leaning twards over  
     
     
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    Here's what I have put in so far :
     
    Big play on the Bears +7
     
    As for props:
    Winning Margin Line-  Bears win by 1-3 pts (8-1 odds)
     
    MVP Thomas Jones (10-1 odds)
    MVP Brian Urlacher (18-1 odds)
    MVP Robbie Gould (40-1 odds)
     
    I'm still undecided what I'm going to do about Under/Over.....leaning twards over  
     
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEY MACANUDO:

    WOW talk about beating a dead horse. I can't beleive how they can let this thread run like this. Anyways it's kind of sad that this is the last thread regarding football. I'm going to miss reading all of your posts. Even the spirited exchanges. Anyways it's been a pleaseure having been able to exchange perspectives with all of you and I respect all of your insight. the refreshing part of these threads are that we are able to get past that fatty top layer of national media "story line" and "Big Game" hype. We have insight and inside information and knowledge from different people who are all able to bring expertise in different areas of the game to fruition. So it has been a pleasure and good luck to you all
     
     
     
     
    It's the Super Bowl Smokey - everybody steps it up.
     
    Good luck paisan - but not too much, ok?
    Been a pleasure. See you next season, or maybe in the baseball, college bball threads.
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    WOW talk about beating a dead horse. I can't beleive how they can let this thread run like this. Anyways it's kind of sad that this is the last thread regarding football. I'm going to miss reading all of your posts. Even the spirited exchanges. Anyways it's been a pleaseure having been able to exchange perspectives with all of you and I respect all of your insight. the refreshing part of these threads are that we are able to get past that fatty top layer of national media "story line" and "Big Game" hype. We have insight and inside information and knowledge from different people who are all able to bring expertise in different areas of the game to fruition. So it has been a pleasure and good luck to you all
     
     
     
     
    It's the Super Bowl Smokey - everybody steps it up.
     
    Good luck paisan - but not too much, ok?
    Been a pleasure. See you next season, or maybe in the baseball, college bball threads.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2007 - 4:28 PM ET #373

    Ok, I have been DEAD SET on Indy and the over but I'm getting a bad feeling about it. Why is the spread still sitting at -7 ?  I'm sure seeing a lot of love going the Bears way here.I'm still set on the over but now I'm thinking about teasing Da Bears to 13. Argh!!!! . Being new to posting on here, I don't want to seem to be flaking out, but this game's killing me. But I still love it!!!!
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    Ok, I have been DEAD SET on Indy and the over but I'm getting a bad feeling about it. Why is the spread still sitting at -7 ?  I'm sure seeing a lot of love going the Bears way here.I'm still set on the over but now I'm thinking about teasing Da Bears to 13. Argh!!!! . Being new to posting on here, I don't want to seem to be flaking out, but this game's killing me. But I still love it!!!!
     
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    im sticking to my gut, although for 2 weeks this pick has been boiling my brain....... stand tough and bet the way you believe the trends read.... its superbowl, its going to be gut wrenching until that final second in the 4th quarter ticks.......
     
    im goin Colts also.... and i'm damn scared..............
     
    GO COLTS
     
     
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    im sticking to my gut, although for 2 weeks this pick has been boiling my brain....... stand tough and bet the way you believe the trends read.... its superbowl, its going to be gut wrenching until that final second in the 4th quarter ticks.......
     
    im goin Colts also.... and i'm damn scared..............
     
    GO COLTS
     
     
    IN THE UNDER
     
     
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    FOR THOSE WHO FEEL STRONG ABOUT THEIR TOTAL:
     
    As I do on a regular basis I have more information that might make you think twice about your over or your under play.  I already like the under but with looking at the weather forecast for Sunday in Miami I am starting to LOVE the under. Currently we are looking at a 50% chance of rain with winds out of the south east at 15mph.
    I am not going to start a conversation on who the rain might help or hurt but I think it could have an affect on the total.
     
     
    I can't wait for Grey's Anatomy tonight!!!!! That is where Dr. J works.......
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    FOR THOSE WHO FEEL STRONG ABOUT THEIR TOTAL:
     
    As I do on a regular basis I have more information that might make you think twice about your over or your under play.  I already like the under but with looking at the weather forecast for Sunday in Miami I am starting to LOVE the under. Currently we are looking at a 50% chance of rain with winds out of the south east at 15mph.
    I am not going to start a conversation on who the rain might help or hurt but I think it could have an affect on the total.
     
     
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