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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 4:55 PM ET #151

     
     
    BOISE STATE WOULD GIVE EITHER ONE OF THESE TEAMS A BATTLE.  I THINK FLORIDA HAS JUST AS GOOD A CHANCE OF BEATING OHIO STATE AS DID MY WOLVERINES.  I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IF BO HADN'T PAST AWAY THE DAY BEFORE THE BIG GAME MICHIGAN WOULD HAVE BEAT THE BUCKEYES.  THEY CAME OUT A LITTLE FLAT IN THE FIRST HALF AND CAME UP A LITTLE SHORT.  AND ONCE THEY DIDN'T GET A REMATCH IN THE TITLE GAME THE ROSE BOWL MEANT LITTLE TO THEM.  THIS GAME WILL COME DOWN TO A FIELD GOAL OR LESS.  GO GATORS
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    BOISE STATE WOULD GIVE EITHER ONE OF THESE TEAMS A BATTLE.  I THINK FLORIDA HAS JUST AS GOOD A CHANCE OF BEATING OHIO STATE AS DID MY WOLVERINES.  I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IF BO HADN'T PAST AWAY THE DAY BEFORE THE BIG GAME MICHIGAN WOULD HAVE BEAT THE BUCKEYES.  THEY CAME OUT A LITTLE FLAT IN THE FIRST HALF AND CAME UP A LITTLE SHORT.  AND ONCE THEY DIDN'T GET A REMATCH IN THE TITLE GAME THE ROSE BOWL MEANT LITTLE TO THEM.  THIS GAME WILL COME DOWN TO A FIELD GOAL OR LESS.  GO GATORS
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 5:05 PM ET #152

    Danstyk... I bought into that theory a week ago with Brady Quinn and Notre Dame.. Ouch..
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    Danstyk... I bought into that theory a week ago with Brady Quinn and Notre Dame.. Ouch..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 5:10 PM ET #153

    Quote Originally Posted by Shenanigans:

    I was on Texas last year as well but lets not confuse Leak with Young in beinag able to lead an underdog to victory.  Your right griller, Meyer is one heck of a coach and can gameplan with the best of them but keep in mind that Tressel might have a better track record. 5-1 against UM and 4-1 in bowl games, (3-0 in tempe). And we all know how OSU fans travel.  It was 80% OSU fans in last championship game out there against Miami. Good luck grille  
     
    Thanks, Shenanigans.  Good luck on your wager (s), as well. You are correct.  Leak is no Vince Young. For the Gators to win, it will take a total team effort with every position playing at their highest level, including Meyer. My bet is they will, at least ATS.  . And since yesterday was such a good day for me in the NFL playing favs,  I'll lay a small ML bet here on the BCS dogs.   Best of luck all. Enjoy the game!  
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenanigans:

    I was on Texas last year as well but lets not confuse Leak with Young in beinag able to lead an underdog to victory.  Your right griller, Meyer is one heck of a coach and can gameplan with the best of them but keep in mind that Tressel might have a better track record. 5-1 against UM and 4-1 in bowl games, (3-0 in tempe). And we all know how OSU fans travel.  It was 80% OSU fans in last championship game out there against Miami. Good luck grille  
     
    Thanks, Shenanigans.  Good luck on your wager (s), as well. You are correct.  Leak is no Vince Young. For the Gators to win, it will take a total team effort with every position playing at their highest level, including Meyer. My bet is they will, at least ATS.  . And since yesterday was such a good day for me in the NFL playing favs,  I'll lay a small ML bet here on the BCS dogs.   Best of luck all. Enjoy the game!  
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 5:12 PM ET #154

    lookingtowin,
    cmon osu was up 2 scores with 3min to go they gave you that last score because they were celebrating already.  now you had a nice game off. but cmon you weerent that close to winning anything!!!!
    -osu
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    why are we even talking mich tonite there not playing
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    lookingtowin,
    cmon osu was up 2 scores with 3min to go they gave you that last score because they were celebrating already.  now you had a nice game off. but cmon you weerent that close to winning anything!!!!
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    -mich
    why are we even talking mich tonite there not playing
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 5:21 PM ET #155

    I took Florida +7.5.
     
    For what it's worth, I also believe that OSU is the better team.  I am very nervous about Leak and Hetland standing up in this game.  I do think fame and rust are negatives against OSU though. Only the game will tell.
     
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    I took Florida +7.5.
     
    For what it's worth, I also believe that OSU is the better team.  I am very nervous about Leak and Hetland standing up in this game.  I do think fame and rust are negatives against OSU though. Only the game will tell.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 5:27 PM ET #156

    nevermind,,, now I see.   For some reason I am liking the over more and more..
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    nevermind,,, now I see.   For some reason I am liking the over more and more..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 5:41 PM ET #157

    It is time forthe favorite to step up. I heard a comentary on Ohio St. earlier in the year around game 8 or 9. The quote I remember is " there is Ohio St. and then there is the NCAA. Ohio St. Could actually play in the NFL this year and have a wildcard shot." Now I'm not sure if that is a shot at the mediocrity of the mid to lower NFL or a huge praise on the OSU. OSU is about the fastest team I've seen play this year - FSU might keep it close - hell they might win, NY MONEY IS ON OSU -7. Win or loose last NCAAF game this year - BLAST OFF
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    It is time forthe favorite to step up. I heard a comentary on Ohio St. earlier in the year around game 8 or 9. The quote I remember is " there is Ohio St. and then there is the NCAA. Ohio St. Could actually play in the NFL this year and have a wildcard shot." Now I'm not sure if that is a shot at the mediocrity of the mid to lower NFL or a huge praise on the OSU. OSU is about the fastest team I've seen play this year - FSU might keep it close - hell they might win, NY MONEY IS ON OSU -7. Win or loose last NCAAF game this year - BLAST OFF
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 5:51 PM ET #158

    Something new from the AP:
     
    "Smith was brilliant in his senior season, throwing for 2,507 yards and 30 touchdowns as the Buckeyes outscored the opposition by 26 per game. He turned the Heisman voting into another rout, winning in a record-breaking landslide.

    Of course, Heisman winners have found themselves on the losing end more often than not when playing for a BCS national title. Five have done so since 2000, and only one — USC's Matt Leinart in '04 — has won.

    Smith said the Heisman isn't a burden."

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    Something new from the AP:
     
    "Smith was brilliant in his senior season, throwing for 2,507 yards and 30 touchdowns as the Buckeyes outscored the opposition by 26 per game. He turned the Heisman voting into another rout, winning in a record-breaking landslide.

    Of course, Heisman winners have found themselves on the losing end more often than not when playing for a BCS national title. Five have done so since 2000, and only one — USC's Matt Leinart in '04 — has won.

    Smith said the Heisman isn't a burden."

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 5:57 PM ET #159

    "For his counterpart, Chris Leak, the game could define a career that has looked great on paper but has left many fans unsatisfied. The four-year starter has thrown for 11,000 yards and 87 TDs, but he's not even the most popular quarterback on campus. That title goes to fiery freshman Tim Tebow, whose tough running has complemented Leak's passing.

    Meyer makes it clear that it's Leak's team."

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    "For his counterpart, Chris Leak, the game could define a career that has looked great on paper but has left many fans unsatisfied. The four-year starter has thrown for 11,000 yards and 87 TDs, but he's not even the most popular quarterback on campus. That title goes to fiery freshman Tim Tebow, whose tough running has complemented Leak's passing.

    Meyer makes it clear that it's Leak's team."

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 6:07 PM ET #160

    To hear the Florida Gators tell it, the "O" and "H" already have been engraved on the championship trophies.

    "Every time you pick up a paper or magazine, you see Ohio State, then you see one page of Florida or just the title, Florida Gators," Gators defensive tackle Joe Cohen. "And you know, we fought to get here, too. We want a little credit that we're here. At least acknowledge that we're in the game. I guess Jan. 8 we'll show that we're in the game."

    Football players are always looking for an opportunity to feel disrespected. It can be a powerful motivational tool. Just ask Texas, which rode Vince Young's need for redemption to a national title last year. Or the 2002 Buckeyes, who pulled off one of the biggest BCS upsets when they beat Miami."

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    To hear the Florida Gators tell it, the "O" and "H" already have been engraved on the championship trophies.

    "Every time you pick up a paper or magazine, you see Ohio State, then you see one page of Florida or just the title, Florida Gators," Gators defensive tackle Joe Cohen. "And you know, we fought to get here, too. We want a little credit that we're here. At least acknowledge that we're in the game. I guess Jan. 8 we'll show that we're in the game."

    Football players are always looking for an opportunity to feel disrespected. It can be a powerful motivational tool. Just ask Texas, which rode Vince Young's need for redemption to a national title last year. Or the 2002 Buckeyes, who pulled off one of the biggest BCS upsets when they beat Miami."

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 6:19 PM ET #161

    Gator's speed is the reason they cover and keep the total under. They may not score much but they can play some defense.
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    Gator's speed is the reason they cover and keep the total under. They may not score much but they can play some defense.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 6:20 PM ET #162

    Think im gonna give Ohio State the kiss of death and bet on them tonight. Its been a rough few days       The Ohio State Buckeyes -7
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    Think im gonna give Ohio State the kiss of death and bet on them tonight. Its been a rough few days       The Ohio State Buckeyes -7
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 6:24 PM ET #163

    Don't worry UZ, I got BlackJack11 betting with me.
     
    I'd say we're even.
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    Don't worry UZ, I got BlackJack11 betting with me.
     
    I'd say we're even.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 6:25 PM ET #164

    remember when noone thought Texas had a chance.  I think this will be the same outcome. Florida is no push over and will keep the game close if they dont win it outright. Florida +7 is the play.
     
     
     
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    remember when noone thought Texas had a chance.  I think this will be the same outcome. Florida is no push over and will keep the game close if they dont win it outright. Florida +7 is the play.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 6:36 PM ET #165

    I like the over because of scoring defenses, but whenever I pick the O/U, I lose the game, so I'm not taking the side.  (ooga booga)
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    I like the over because of scoring defenses, but whenever I pick the O/U, I lose the game, so I'm not taking the side.  (ooga booga)
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 6:37 PM ET #166

    Ixne on the Jinxe.  esol, esol, esol.
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    Ixne on the Jinxe.  esol, esol, esol.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 6:52 PM ET #167

    Ohio St at the half -4, parlay it with the Over 23..
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 6:54 PM ET #168

    I like ohio state cuz of experience. I think it is safe to say u can flip a coin
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    I like ohio state cuz of experience. I think it is safe to say u can flip a coin
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 6:55 PM ET #169

    MICHIGAN +7  WHO'LL BE #1 AFTER THIS???  BOISE ST
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    MICHIGAN +7  WHO'LL BE #1 AFTER THIS???  BOISE ST
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 7:00 PM ET #170

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiWarrior:

    Danstyk,
     
      It's sounds like I am taunting.  I am not.  I resptect your posts very much.
     
    No worries Maui, it pays to shoot holes in arguments.  That's how you test 'em.
    Without looking it up, I'm sure the underdog won.  But I don't place a high value on past championship history, unless it involves the same teams.  I prefer to look at the teams now.
     
    I know it seems like I'm waving the scarlet flag, and some people prolly think I'm from Ohio.  I'm not.  I usually root against them.  But I have seen them enough to be a believer.
     
    As stated earlier, I expect Fla to come out strong with a lot of emotion.  But OSU will wear them down in the 2nd half.  I also expect Fla to turn it over, because OSU excels at creating turnovers, and Leak is a little bit prone to that.  I also expect Fla to attack more as the underdog, especially since they have a weak FG kicker so will need to be creative in getting some 6 and 7 pointers on the board.  I just don't see them succeeding for very long... if at all.
     
    Lots of people fearing OSU being flat after a 50-day layoff.  They had a long layoff last year too, and were anything but flat in crushing ND.  Now Troy Smith and Ted Ginn are a year older and better.  Tressel with 50 days to game plan?  Good god...
     
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    Danstyk,
     
      It's sounds like I am taunting.  I am not.  I resptect your posts very much.
     
    No worries Maui, it pays to shoot holes in arguments.  That's how you test 'em.
    Without looking it up, I'm sure the underdog won.  But I don't place a high value on past championship history, unless it involves the same teams.  I prefer to look at the teams now.
     
    I know it seems like I'm waving the scarlet flag, and some people prolly think I'm from Ohio.  I'm not.  I usually root against them.  But I have seen them enough to be a believer.
     
    As stated earlier, I expect Fla to come out strong with a lot of emotion.  But OSU will wear them down in the 2nd half.  I also expect Fla to turn it over, because OSU excels at creating turnovers, and Leak is a little bit prone to that.  I also expect Fla to attack more as the underdog, especially since they have a weak FG kicker so will need to be creative in getting some 6 and 7 pointers on the board.  I just don't see them succeeding for very long... if at all.
     
    Lots of people fearing OSU being flat after a 50-day layoff.  They had a long layoff last year too, and were anything but flat in crushing ND.  Now Troy Smith and Ted Ginn are a year older and better.  Tressel with 50 days to game plan?  Good god...
     
     
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    "Florida is pretty good but then Confucious said "Buckeyes".  Damn it!!!  If Confucious bet on the Buckeyes, I would have to too."
     
    Confucious also say:
    "Man who pee in cash register, find it run into money"    (take it for what it is worth)
     
    Yes my friends, I hate to see the end come to the college football season, as it is indeed a "special time of year". None other like it.
     
    I have enjoyed very much the camoraderie and friendly back and forth in here on the games this year, as I did the last year as well. I'll be betting on the NFL games until the Super Bowl and very likely a few college BB games for the remainder of winter -- but will see most all you guys back in here during next season, so take care, God Bless and Keep, and save that confederate money boys, cause the south's gonna rize agin.
     
    Besta luck   to all, regardless of who you bet on. There has to both a winner and a loser here, sorry to say, but you're all WINNERS in my book.
     
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    "Florida is pretty good but then Confucious said "Buckeyes".  Damn it!!!  If Confucious bet on the Buckeyes, I would have to too."
     
    Confucious also say:
    "Man who pee in cash register, find it run into money"    (take it for what it is worth)
     
    Yes my friends, I hate to see the end come to the college football season, as it is indeed a "special time of year". None other like it.
     
    I have enjoyed very much the camoraderie and friendly back and forth in here on the games this year, as I did the last year as well. I'll be betting on the NFL games until the Super Bowl and very likely a few college BB games for the remainder of winter -- but will see most all you guys back in here during next season, so take care, God Bless and Keep, and save that confederate money boys, cause the south's gonna rize agin.
     
    Besta luck   to all, regardless of who you bet on. There has to both a winner and a loser here, sorry to say, but you're all WINNERS in my book.
     
    BJ11
     
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    Danstyk... I bought into that theory a week ago with Brady Quinn and Notre Dame.. Ouch..
     
    Whoops, my bad on that one.  I jumped the gun that time.  Sorry if I led you astray and cost you $$.  But I think this reasoning makes sense here.  Troy Smith is just fearless, and comes up huge in big games.  As a junior AT Michigan, and in the Fiesta Bowl.   This year all year long.  70% completion rate v. MI.  He's got 30 TDs and only 5 INTs. Did not have a great game vs. Penn State, but made probably the single best pass I saw all year that just blew me away.  A scramble, then a loooooooooooong deep pass splitting defenders in the end zone the won the game.
     
    Anyway, I'll stop now.  Better luck tonight...
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    Quote Originally Posted by freaky friday:

    Danstyk... I bought into that theory a week ago with Brady Quinn and Notre Dame.. Ouch..
     
    Whoops, my bad on that one.  I jumped the gun that time.  Sorry if I led you astray and cost you $$.  But I think this reasoning makes sense here.  Troy Smith is just fearless, and comes up huge in big games.  As a junior AT Michigan, and in the Fiesta Bowl.   This year all year long.  70% completion rate v. MI.  He's got 30 TDs and only 5 INTs. Did not have a great game vs. Penn State, but made probably the single best pass I saw all year that just blew me away.  A scramble, then a loooooooooooong deep pass splitting defenders in the end zone the won the game.
     
    Anyway, I'll stop now.  Better luck tonight...
     
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    I guess I stopped only for THAT post... 
     
    Have to make mention of this.  Am I wrong, or is this the weakest argument you have ever read in a covers article about why a team should cover?   It is full of apologies and intuition.  Hardly any solid argument whatsoever... and this from a guy whose job it was to cover the SEC!
     
    https://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=99769&tid=30&t=1
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    I guess I stopped only for THAT post... 
     
    Have to make mention of this.  Am I wrong, or is this the weakest argument you have ever read in a covers article about why a team should cover?   It is full of apologies and intuition.  Hardly any solid argument whatsoever... and this from a guy whose job it was to cover the SEC!
     
    https://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=99769&tid=30&t=1
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 7:21 PM ET #174

    does anyone know what surface this game is being played on grass or turf??
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    does anyone know what surface this game is being played on grass or turf??
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 7:24 PM ET #175

    think it's field turf.. isn't it the new Arizona Cardinal stadium w/ the retractable field?
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