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    MauiWarrior
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 4:10 AM ET #101

    It's a take-the-under-dog nerves kind of glaucoma, but....ahhhh, never mind.  I can handle it.
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    It's a take-the-under-dog nerves kind of glaucoma, but....ahhhh, never mind.  I can handle it.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 4:28 AM ET #102

    "Who...ARE...the warriors?"...."WARriors...come OUT to Plaeeeeayyyy." The Warriors, 1979. 
     
    Who is thegr8-1?
     
    Come on man, make your pick.
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    "Who...ARE...the warriors?"...."WARriors...come OUT to Plaeeeeayyyy." The Warriors, 1979. 
     
    Who is thegr8-1?
     
    Come on man, make your pick.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 5:10 AM ET #103

    I believe Ohio State will put a few points up before Fl. adjusts.
    Gators DB cannot defend against all of Ohio's receivers at once.
    If this becomes a game it will be the second half.
     
    >> OHIO STATE HALF small play. <<
     
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    I believe Ohio State will put a few points up before Fl. adjusts.
    Gators DB cannot defend against all of Ohio's receivers at once.
    If this becomes a game it will be the second half.
     
    >> OHIO STATE HALF small play. <<
     
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    A HUI HO!
     
    7-1 (2007)
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 5:53 AM ET #104

    AURITE GUYS LAST GAME OF THE YEAR FOR NCAA FOOTBALL, AND I NEED SOME HELP WITH THIS ONE. ON TUESDAY I WENT WITH
     
    NOTRE DAME- HALF-LOSE
                           GAME-LOSE
                           UNDER-WIN
     
    2 TEAM TEASER-LOSE
    NOTRE DAME
    UNDER
     
    PARLAY-LOSE
    NOTRE DAME
    UNDER
     
    NOW I WAS KICKING MY SELF IN THE  BECAUSE I WANTED USC, BUT SOMETHING IN MY GUT SAID NOTRE DAME COULD HANG, WELL NOW WE KNOW. SO SINCE THEN I HAVE PLAYED
     
    CINCY-HALF-WIN
    INDY-HALF-WIN
            GAME-WIN
    DALLAS-HALF-WIN
                 GAME-WIN
     
    4 TEAM TEASER-WIN
    INDY
    SEA
    CINCY
    CINCY/W MICH-UNDER
     
    4 TEAM TEASER-WIN
    NYG
    NE
    INDY
    DAL
     
    2 TEAM TEASER-WIN
    DALLAS
    UNDER
     
    WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE PLAYED NEW ENGLAND TODAY FOR BIG MONEY BUT DIDNT WAKE UP IN TIME   SO THE SOUTHERN MISS GAME WAS ALL I HAD LEFT WHICH I PLAYED EVERYTHING I WON ON THE HALF, MAHALOS BIGDADDY. WELL AFTER READING THIS YOU MUST BE THINKING, THIS GUY IS PROBABLY UP MONEY WHY WOULD HE WANT TO PLAY THIS GAME. WELL THE REASON IS IM A FREAKING GAMBLING JUNKIE AND I LOVE  BUT I CANT FIGURE OUT WHAT TO PLAY, SO TO BE HONEST I MIGHT ACTUALLY TAKE THE WIN AND WAIT FOR THE PROS WHICH MIGHT BE HARD TO DO BUT A WIN IS A WIN. BUT IF I HAD TO PLAY SOMEONE SOMETHING TELLS ME FLORIDA LIKE IT TOLD ME TEXAS LAST YEAR. I WASNT GOING TO PLAY THAT GAME LAST YEAR, BUT AS DOWN AS I WAS I HAD TOO AND I DIDNT BREAK EVEN BUT IT MADE THE LOSS REASONABLE. WELL THATS MY STORY AND ONCE AGAIN I FEEL GATORS, WHOEVER WINS ITLL BE A GOOD ONE. ALOHAS AND GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE OUT THERE.
     
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    AURITE GUYS LAST GAME OF THE YEAR FOR NCAA FOOTBALL, AND I NEED SOME HELP WITH THIS ONE. ON TUESDAY I WENT WITH
     
    NOTRE DAME- HALF-LOSE
                           GAME-LOSE
                           UNDER-WIN
     
    2 TEAM TEASER-LOSE
    NOTRE DAME
    UNDER
     
    PARLAY-LOSE
    NOTRE DAME
    UNDER
     
    NOW I WAS KICKING MY SELF IN THE  BECAUSE I WANTED USC, BUT SOMETHING IN MY GUT SAID NOTRE DAME COULD HANG, WELL NOW WE KNOW. SO SINCE THEN I HAVE PLAYED
     
    CINCY-HALF-WIN
    INDY-HALF-WIN
            GAME-WIN
    DALLAS-HALF-WIN
                 GAME-WIN
     
    4 TEAM TEASER-WIN
    INDY
    SEA
    CINCY
    CINCY/W MICH-UNDER
     
    4 TEAM TEASER-WIN
    NYG
    NE
    INDY
    DAL
     
    2 TEAM TEASER-WIN
    DALLAS
    UNDER
     
    WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE PLAYED NEW ENGLAND TODAY FOR BIG MONEY BUT DIDNT WAKE UP IN TIME   SO THE SOUTHERN MISS GAME WAS ALL I HAD LEFT WHICH I PLAYED EVERYTHING I WON ON THE HALF, MAHALOS BIGDADDY. WELL AFTER READING THIS YOU MUST BE THINKING, THIS GUY IS PROBABLY UP MONEY WHY WOULD HE WANT TO PLAY THIS GAME. WELL THE REASON IS IM A FREAKING GAMBLING JUNKIE AND I LOVE  BUT I CANT FIGURE OUT WHAT TO PLAY, SO TO BE HONEST I MIGHT ACTUALLY TAKE THE WIN AND WAIT FOR THE PROS WHICH MIGHT BE HARD TO DO BUT A WIN IS A WIN. BUT IF I HAD TO PLAY SOMEONE SOMETHING TELLS ME FLORIDA LIKE IT TOLD ME TEXAS LAST YEAR. I WASNT GOING TO PLAY THAT GAME LAST YEAR, BUT AS DOWN AS I WAS I HAD TOO AND I DIDNT BREAK EVEN BUT IT MADE THE LOSS REASONABLE. WELL THATS MY STORY AND ONCE AGAIN I FEEL GATORS, WHOEVER WINS ITLL BE A GOOD ONE. ALOHAS AND GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE OUT THERE.
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 5:56 AM ET #105

    SORRY GUYS I PUT USC UP THERE AS THE GAME THAT I WANTED IN THE NOTRE DAME MATCH UP I MEANT TO SAY LSU APOLOGIES DONT WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK I DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL IM DOING OR SOMETHING, AND ALSO RIGHT WHEN I WAS TYPING IT ESPN NEWS TALKED ABOUT THE USC KICKER WHO DIED R.I.P, SO I HAD USC ON MY MIND. OK WELL YEAH I MEANT LSU APOLOGIES.
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    SORRY GUYS I PUT USC UP THERE AS THE GAME THAT I WANTED IN THE NOTRE DAME MATCH UP I MEANT TO SAY LSU APOLOGIES DONT WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK I DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL IM DOING OR SOMETHING, AND ALSO RIGHT WHEN I WAS TYPING IT ESPN NEWS TALKED ABOUT THE USC KICKER WHO DIED R.I.P, SO I HAD USC ON MY MIND. OK WELL YEAH I MEANT LSU APOLOGIES.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 8:19 AM ET #106

    couldn't ask for a better game to finish off the season.  not sure who will come out on top...leaning toward ohio state...but do think many points will be scored.  goin with the over  probly not touching the game
     
    just wanted to thank everyone for the help and insight they all provided this year.  made my season a tremendous success
     
    thanks for the gifts bigdaddy...always appreciated.  good luck with whatever you choose amigo!!
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    couldn't ask for a better game to finish off the season.  not sure who will come out on top...leaning toward ohio state...but do think many points will be scored.  goin with the over  probly not touching the game
     
    just wanted to thank everyone for the help and insight they all provided this year.  made my season a tremendous success
     
    thanks for the gifts bigdaddy...always appreciated.  good luck with whatever you choose amigo!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 8:45 AM ET #107

    Some information you might like to know about these two teams, that not many do.
     
    At FIRST glance, as you can tell by my earlier and only post  until now, I was all over Ohio State.
     
    I have since dug into it this matchup a lot deeper and find the below information very enlightening, probably enlightening enough to get me to change my thoughts on betting OSU.
     
    Florida has played ten (10) bowl teams, counting Arkansas
    Ohio State has only played six (6) bowl teams
    ADVANTAGE FLORIDA
     
    The teams Florida has played, have won 94 games and only lost 49
    That's an average of 7.8 wins each (almost 8 wins each) and averaged only 4 losses
     
    The teams Ohio State has played, have won 76 games, and LOST 74  (that's seventy-four, for all you OSU fans)
    That's an average of 6.3 wins, and 6.1 LOSSES
    BIG avantage Florida!
     
    According to the latest Sagarin's ratings, Florida's SOS ranking is 19th in the nation ......and Ohio State's is 38th
    Small advantage Florida
     
    Florida played ONLY two (2) LOSING teams,  Vandy and Central Florida, throwing out the 1-AA school  Western Carolina (whom they stomped 62-0)
    Ohio State played seven (7) LOSING teams, plus two (2) small schools who gave them fits for 3 or more quarters, No. Illinois and Cinncinatti.
    Another BIG advantage to Florida
     
    Throw in the fact that all the pressure is on Ohio State (expected to win) and that is another small advantage to Florida
     
    I'm sure there are OTHER Florida advantages in this game, but these, should be all you need along with the added advantage of those 7 1/2 points you get free gratis.
     
    Please let me load up before all you guys jump in now and drive that Florida point spread down ...... just as the sharps and wise guys are sure to do later today before gametime.
     
    Good Luck guys and enjoy the game Hope I might have been a little help with the info, but your bet is of your own free will and sane?? mind, as always.
     
    By the way, if you get a chance, watch the all-everything super-fast receiver -- kick returner -- punt returner -- and sometimes even RB -- Percy Harvin of the Gators, he was our top high school guy in Virginia a couple years ago, and Beamer let them dang Gators pull him away. He's worth the price of a ticket alone.  
     
    And by the way again.... the only dog I have in this fight, is the UNDERDOG.
     
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    Some information you might like to know about these two teams, that not many do.
     
    At FIRST glance, as you can tell by my earlier and only post  until now, I was all over Ohio State.
     
    I have since dug into it this matchup a lot deeper and find the below information very enlightening, probably enlightening enough to get me to change my thoughts on betting OSU.
     
    Florida has played ten (10) bowl teams, counting Arkansas
    Ohio State has only played six (6) bowl teams
    ADVANTAGE FLORIDA
     
    The teams Florida has played, have won 94 games and only lost 49
    That's an average of 7.8 wins each (almost 8 wins each) and averaged only 4 losses
     
    The teams Ohio State has played, have won 76 games, and LOST 74  (that's seventy-four, for all you OSU fans)
    That's an average of 6.3 wins, and 6.1 LOSSES
    BIG avantage Florida!
     
    According to the latest Sagarin's ratings, Florida's SOS ranking is 19th in the nation ......and Ohio State's is 38th
    Small advantage Florida
     
    Florida played ONLY two (2) LOSING teams,  Vandy and Central Florida, throwing out the 1-AA school  Western Carolina (whom they stomped 62-0)
    Ohio State played seven (7) LOSING teams, plus two (2) small schools who gave them fits for 3 or more quarters, No. Illinois and Cinncinatti.
    Another BIG advantage to Florida
     
    Throw in the fact that all the pressure is on Ohio State (expected to win) and that is another small advantage to Florida
     
    I'm sure there are OTHER Florida advantages in this game, but these, should be all you need along with the added advantage of those 7 1/2 points you get free gratis.
     
    Please let me load up before all you guys jump in now and drive that Florida point spread down ...... just as the sharps and wise guys are sure to do later today before gametime.
     
    Good Luck guys and enjoy the game Hope I might have been a little help with the info, but your bet is of your own free will and sane?? mind, as always.
     
    By the way, if you get a chance, watch the all-everything super-fast receiver -- kick returner -- punt returner -- and sometimes even RB -- Percy Harvin of the Gators, he was our top high school guy in Virginia a couple years ago, and Beamer let them dang Gators pull him away. He's worth the price of a ticket alone.  
     
    And by the way again.... the only dog I have in this fight, is the UNDERDOG.
     
    BJ11
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 9:03 AM ET #108

    The offensive and defensive stats are about a wash here, except for the 7 more points a game OSU averaged scoring, but that's easily explained away by simply comparing the two's schedules as per above, WINNERS versus LOSERS.
     
    There was also the 3 points a game difference in defensive scoring, to OSU's favor, but AGAIN...explained away by the much easier schedule.
     
    Florida has the head coach with the more imaginative and innovative offense here also, IMHO.
    And their defense is not to be overlooked either.
     
    I like the Gators with the 7 1/2...SU
    but also have BOTH teams teased
    and Florida on the M-L
    and the over teased down to 33
       Again, as always, you bet at your own risk, no crybabies if things get outta whack a mite, and you lose a bet or two or three.
     
    THAT SAID....GOOOOOOO GATORSSSSSS!!!!!
     
     
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    The offensive and defensive stats are about a wash here, except for the 7 more points a game OSU averaged scoring, but that's easily explained away by simply comparing the two's schedules as per above, WINNERS versus LOSERS.
     
    There was also the 3 points a game difference in defensive scoring, to OSU's favor, but AGAIN...explained away by the much easier schedule.
     
    Florida has the head coach with the more imaginative and innovative offense here also, IMHO.
    And their defense is not to be overlooked either.
     
    I like the Gators with the 7 1/2...SU
    but also have BOTH teams teased
    and Florida on the M-L
    and the over teased down to 33
       Again, as always, you bet at your own risk, no crybabies if things get outta whack a mite, and you lose a bet or two or three.
     
    THAT SAID....GOOOOOOO GATORSSSSSS!!!!!
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 9:14 AM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by TIMMAN:

      "Wisconsin sucks and is gonna get stomped on by Arkansas." this was posted by dsummer earlier in december before the game was played. He is obviously an SEC homer, which is fine, but if Wisconsin "sucked", they beat the SEC's 2nd best!!! And they are third in the BIG 10.
     
     

    Most people who are knowledgeable regarding the teams in the SEC believe LSU is the 2nd best in the conference, not Arkansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIMMAN:

      "Wisconsin sucks and is gonna get stomped on by Arkansas." this was posted by dsummer earlier in december before the game was played. He is obviously an SEC homer, which is fine, but if Wisconsin "sucked", they beat the SEC's 2nd best!!! And they are third in the BIG 10.
     
     

    Most people who are knowledgeable regarding the teams in the SEC believe LSU is the 2nd best in the conference, not Arkansas.

     
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    Ohio State+739 (preSeason Prop Line)
    FLA+20 (13 point teaser, that will close 2nite)

    Since I worte my national column a week ago, in which I picked FLA in the upset (b/c OH.State has max time off, & FLA does have a lotta speed); all of the preview articles that were not out at the time I wrote my column have come out. In short...I've concluded that FLA can not take OH.State's A+ best shot. So I'm only gonna add the krazyA Prop line of OH.State+7.5, as I now give FLA about a 3 in 10 chance to win. 35% tops. I will inGame this one if I see a lotta OSU rust, or if I see OSU humming along on ally cylinders. This one's all about OSU.

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    Ohio State+739 (preSeason Prop Line)
    FLA+20 (13 point teaser, that will close 2nite)

    Since I worte my national column a week ago, in which I picked FLA in the upset (b/c OH.State has max time off, & FLA does have a lotta speed); all of the preview articles that were not out at the time I wrote my column have come out. In short...I've concluded that FLA can not take OH.State's A+ best shot. So I'm only gonna add the krazyA Prop line of OH.State+7.5, as I now give FLA about a 3 in 10 chance to win. 35% tops. I will inGame this one if I see a lotta OSU rust, or if I see OSU humming along on ally cylinders. This one's all about OSU.

    GLA!
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    Florida will not struggle on offense against this Ohio St team like they have against some of the better SEC defenses, and their defense is one of the best in the nation. I see them having no problem getting the running game going. Ohio St will still score some, Gators score more. I like the Gators on the money line, but I absoutely LOVE them at +7.5. Also leaning over.
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    Florida will not struggle on offense against this Ohio St team like they have against some of the better SEC defenses, and their defense is one of the best in the nation. I see them having no problem getting the running game going. Ohio St will still score some, Gators score more. I like the Gators on the money line, but I absoutely LOVE them at +7.5. Also leaning over.
     
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    WHAT IN THE WIDE WIDE WORLD A SPORTS IS A GOIN ON HERE..........Slim Pickens Blazing Saddles
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    WHAT IN THE WIDE WIDE WORLD A SPORTS IS A GOIN ON HERE..........Slim Pickens Blazing Saddles
     
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    I guess I'm going to the dark side...changing bet and going with OSU...Too many horses and just can not see them holding on past the first 15 minutes...
     
    Betting a medium Play of OSU, will buy the 1/2 point off of 7 or 7.5 @ -120
     
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    I guess I'm going to the dark side...changing bet and going with OSU...Too many horses and just can not see them holding on past the first 15 minutes...
     
    Betting a medium Play of OSU, will buy the 1/2 point off of 7 or 7.5 @ -120
     
    Best of luck to all
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 11:31 AM ET #114

    Load up on the Bucks.  Get all of your money back.  No brainer.  Tressell+Troy Smith+OSU outside speed+OSU offensive line+OSU front seven =
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    Load up on the Bucks.  Get all of your money back.  No brainer.  Tressell+Troy Smith+OSU outside speed+OSU offensive line+OSU front seven =
     
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    I'm on Ohio State here.  -7.5, but laying off the first half bet, as I could see Fla having some early success.  But they wear down by game end, and OSU puts it away.
     
    SoS is interesting and all, but really I do not see it illuminating a winner here.  The game comes down to two things, talent matchups and preparation.   Does it really matter who played the tougher schedule?  Do you think anyone on either team or on either sideline will be discussing who played who earlier in the year?  No, all that is past, and all we are left with is THIS game with THESE players. 
     
    Both teams have talent, but OSU has two BIG advantages -- at QB and the kicking game.  Would you rather have -- a Heisman Trophy winner who has the eye of the tiger, or a spotty but sparky two-man tandem?  For one game, pick quality over quantity.  As for the kickers, Ohio State's Aaron Pettrey is 8 for 11 in FGs, with two 50-yd+ kicks.  Fla counters with Chris Hetland, who is 4 for 13, with the longest being from 33 yds.
     
    This FG advantage is more than just who wins it at the finish.  It can really help determine momentum during the game.  If Fla should get a turnover, or make a nice long drive, missing a FG to top it off could kill their momentum and make them turn to more desperate measures, playing into OSU's hand.
     
    As for preparation, Tressel is as good as anyone.  The professorial look he brings is not just schtick.  He is very exacting, even-keeled, and smart about how he prepares his team, and it shows week in and week out, and in past bowl games. 
     
    I'm not bashing Fla here, but I just think that overall these teams are not that close.  I don't think 7 or 7.5, or 8 makes all that much difference here.  OSU covers, but BigDaddy, watch out for that halftime bet... not so sure about that one here.  But I could be wrong on that as I have not studied that angle thoroughly.  I am wary of a 1st half bet because 1) OSU had a long layoff, 2) I saw them score zero vs. PSU in the first half, and 3) Fla will bring some talent, energy, and probably a few surprises early on.
     
    But OSU adjusts and puts it away.   Good luck all with your wagers... I will try to post more later as time allows.
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    I'm on Ohio State here.  -7.5, but laying off the first half bet, as I could see Fla having some early success.  But they wear down by game end, and OSU puts it away.
     
    SoS is interesting and all, but really I do not see it illuminating a winner here.  The game comes down to two things, talent matchups and preparation.   Does it really matter who played the tougher schedule?  Do you think anyone on either team or on either sideline will be discussing who played who earlier in the year?  No, all that is past, and all we are left with is THIS game with THESE players. 
     
    Both teams have talent, but OSU has two BIG advantages -- at QB and the kicking game.  Would you rather have -- a Heisman Trophy winner who has the eye of the tiger, or a spotty but sparky two-man tandem?  For one game, pick quality over quantity.  As for the kickers, Ohio State's Aaron Pettrey is 8 for 11 in FGs, with two 50-yd+ kicks.  Fla counters with Chris Hetland, who is 4 for 13, with the longest being from 33 yds.
     
    This FG advantage is more than just who wins it at the finish.  It can really help determine momentum during the game.  If Fla should get a turnover, or make a nice long drive, missing a FG to top it off could kill their momentum and make them turn to more desperate measures, playing into OSU's hand.
     
    As for preparation, Tressel is as good as anyone.  The professorial look he brings is not just schtick.  He is very exacting, even-keeled, and smart about how he prepares his team, and it shows week in and week out, and in past bowl games. 
     
    I'm not bashing Fla here, but I just think that overall these teams are not that close.  I don't think 7 or 7.5, or 8 makes all that much difference here.  OSU covers, but BigDaddy, watch out for that halftime bet... not so sure about that one here.  But I could be wrong on that as I have not studied that angle thoroughly.  I am wary of a 1st half bet because 1) OSU had a long layoff, 2) I saw them score zero vs. PSU in the first half, and 3) Fla will bring some talent, energy, and probably a few surprises early on.
     
    But OSU adjusts and puts it away.   Good luck all with your wagers... I will try to post more later as time allows.
     
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    Blackjack.... i absolutely love your posts(i have been reading them all season) but i think you need to stick to your original gut feeling.  A lot of your information reminds of the old theory  A beats B and B beats C so therefore A will kill C, and we all know that never adds up. Looking at Florida's opponents and judging the gators on how those teams played in their other games is somewhat useless. Just like i will not base my pick on the fact that the big ten is 2-0 against the SEC in bowl games this year.
     
    Lets look at other tangibles like Florida being the second most penalized team in the nation(behind akron)
    Or how terrible their kicking game is.. 4 fg's all season and a long of 33? wow
    Tressel and troy smith's performance in big games throughout their tenure (undefeated in Arizona...home away from home for OSU)
    OSU already beating two #2 teams this year(regardless of how those teams performed after the games)
    OSU converting over 50% of their third downs and 70% on fourth down.. tough to keep off field
     
    I could go on and on  about how shakey leak is but im sure you already know.  i wish you the best of luck  but i hope you go with your original gut feeling. cheers.  
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    Blackjack.... i absolutely love your posts(i have been reading them all season) but i think you need to stick to your original gut feeling.  A lot of your information reminds of the old theory  A beats B and B beats C so therefore A will kill C, and we all know that never adds up. Looking at Florida's opponents and judging the gators on how those teams played in their other games is somewhat useless. Just like i will not base my pick on the fact that the big ten is 2-0 against the SEC in bowl games this year.
     
    Lets look at other tangibles like Florida being the second most penalized team in the nation(behind akron)
    Or how terrible their kicking game is.. 4 fg's all season and a long of 33? wow
    Tressel and troy smith's performance in big games throughout their tenure (undefeated in Arizona...home away from home for OSU)
    OSU already beating two #2 teams this year(regardless of how those teams performed after the games)
    OSU converting over 50% of their third downs and 70% on fourth down.. tough to keep off field
     
    I could go on and on  about how shakey leak is but im sure you already know.  i wish you the best of luck  but i hope you go with your original gut feeling. cheers.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 12:29 PM ET #117

    BE CAREFUL riding the OSU Train.
     
    If you review this past seasons results for both teams you will swing from OSU to the Gators.
     
    Ask yourself the following question?
     
    If OSU was in the SEC or ACC would they be 12-0?
     
    Who would win OSU or LSU?
     
    Besides Texas and Michigan who are the toughest teams OSU played this year?  Penn State, Iowa, Cincy...
     
    Ohio State beat Penn State by the score of 28-6.  Sounds like a blow-out against a team with a pretty good defense.  However, Ohio State scored 14 points in the last two minutes of the game by interceptions.  Take those away and you have a final score of 14-6 OSU.  The running back for Penn State, Hunt, ran for 135 yards.
     
    Ohio State beat Iowa 38-17 - Tate threw 3 picks.
     
    By halftime the OSU/Cincy score was 13-7.
     
    Florida Wins: Arkansas, Florida State, South Carolina, Georgia, LSU
     
    OSU Wins: Michigan, Penn St., Iowa, Texas, Cincy, Mich. St.
     
    Florida getting 7 points is a Christmas present arriving a few weeks late.  Take the points to the bank.
     
    Good Luck All....
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    BE CAREFUL riding the OSU Train.
     
    If you review this past seasons results for both teams you will swing from OSU to the Gators.
     
    Ask yourself the following question?
     
    If OSU was in the SEC or ACC would they be 12-0?
     
    Who would win OSU or LSU?
     
    Besides Texas and Michigan who are the toughest teams OSU played this year?  Penn State, Iowa, Cincy...
     
    Ohio State beat Penn State by the score of 28-6.  Sounds like a blow-out against a team with a pretty good defense.  However, Ohio State scored 14 points in the last two minutes of the game by interceptions.  Take those away and you have a final score of 14-6 OSU.  The running back for Penn State, Hunt, ran for 135 yards.
     
    Ohio State beat Iowa 38-17 - Tate threw 3 picks.
     
    By halftime the OSU/Cincy score was 13-7.
     
    Florida Wins: Arkansas, Florida State, South Carolina, Georgia, LSU
     
    OSU Wins: Michigan, Penn St., Iowa, Texas, Cincy, Mich. St.
     
    Florida getting 7 points is a Christmas present arriving a few weeks late.  Take the points to the bank.
     
    Good Luck All....
     
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    Michigan beat ND
    ND beat UCLA
    UCLA beat USC therefore....
    michigan beats USC!!!!!
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    Florida + pts.............................as a small option on the total .....Under!
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    Florida + pts.............................as a small option on the total .....Under!
     
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    seems like last year when everybody was saying how USC would KILL Texas, and look what happened in that game. Still undecided on the game, but leaning towards FL with the pts. Good luck everyone.
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    seems like last year when everybody was saying how USC would KILL Texas, and look what happened in that game. Still undecided on the game, but leaning towards FL with the pts. Good luck everyone.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter:

    seems like last year when everybody was saying how USC would KILL Texas, and look what happened in that game.
     
    Too true. I cleaned up in last year's title game going against the public. These teams match up well. Then there's Urban Meyer's ability to plan, motivate and coach inside the game. The Gators are looking great to me as 7.5 point dogs. Gimme the points.  Hell, gimme a small play on the money line, too.
     
    Good luck to all.  We're in for a great season finale tonight.
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    seems like last year when everybody was saying how USC would KILL Texas, and look what happened in that game.
     
    Too true. I cleaned up in last year's title game going against the public. These teams match up well. Then there's Urban Meyer's ability to plan, motivate and coach inside the game. The Gators are looking great to me as 7.5 point dogs. Gimme the points.  Hell, gimme a small play on the money line, too.
     
    Good luck to all.  We're in for a great season finale tonight.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2007 - 2:19 PM ET #122

    Troy Smith has 20 red zone TD's to 8 different receivers with zero INT's! 
     
    Ohio St. has 16 Turnovers this year and their Defense has only give up 10 pts off of those To's. UNREAL!!  All ten against Michigan.
     
    Leak 6 Tds-6Ints  last 5 games
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    Troy Smith has 20 red zone TD's to 8 different receivers with zero INT's! 
     
    Ohio St. has 16 Turnovers this year and their Defense has only give up 10 pts off of those To's. UNREAL!!  All ten against Michigan.
     
    Leak 6 Tds-6Ints  last 5 games
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter:

    seems like last year when everybody was saying how USC would KILL Texas, and look what happened in that game. Still undecided on the game, but leaning towards FL with the pts. Good luck everyone.
     
    Funny how time can rewrite history, but I don't recall "everybody was saying how USC would KILL Texas."  I know I was on TX and rolled with them, and saw many other experienced bettors siding with them too. 
     
    And as I mentioned in a different thread, it is unwise to draw an even parallel with that game.  Last year both teams were undefeated, and both cruised through the season with maybe one hicccup trap game in there for each side.  Much different scenario here, with one team with a 10-pt loss that backed in with the help of another team losing.  The other team was # 1 start to finish, just like USC in 2005.  And we know how that one ended... USC winning 55-19.
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    seems like last year when everybody was saying how USC would KILL Texas, and look what happened in that game. Still undecided on the game, but leaning towards FL with the pts. Good luck everyone.
     
    Funny how time can rewrite history, but I don't recall "everybody was saying how USC would KILL Texas."  I know I was on TX and rolled with them, and saw many other experienced bettors siding with them too. 
     
    And as I mentioned in a different thread, it is unwise to draw an even parallel with that game.  Last year both teams were undefeated, and both cruised through the season with maybe one hicccup trap game in there for each side.  Much different scenario here, with one team with a 10-pt loss that backed in with the help of another team losing.  The other team was # 1 start to finish, just like USC in 2005.  And we know how that one ended... USC winning 55-19.
     
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    I was on Texas last year as well but lets not confuse Leak with Young in beinag able to lead an underdog to victory.  Your right griller, Meyer is one heck of a coach and can gameplan with the best of them but keep in mind that Tressel might have a better track record. 5-1 against UM and 4-1 in bowl games, (3-0 in tempe). And we all know how OSU fans travel.  It was 80% OSU fans in last championship game out there against Miami. Good luck grille  
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    I was on Texas last year as well but lets not confuse Leak with Young in beinag able to lead an underdog to victory.  Your right griller, Meyer is one heck of a coach and can gameplan with the best of them but keep in mind that Tressel might have a better track record. 5-1 against UM and 4-1 in bowl games, (3-0 in tempe). And we all know how OSU fans travel.  It was 80% OSU fans in last championship game out there against Miami. Good luck grille  
     
     
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    Does anyone know is Nelson( FLA S) will actually play in this game?
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