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    What about betting all my nfl earnings in Davis cup (Serbia)

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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 3:32 AM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by lucash:


    i am giving up on you, i thought you were smart initially, now reading more of you i think you have no clue what you are doing.
    good luck mate 
    I definitely had no idea what I was doing with this wager. I already admitted as such long before you came in to echo the sentiment.

    This was one of the threads I checked before making my bet, just to see if there were any angles that could talk me out of it. If you had made your second post originally it would have tapped into thoughts I would later have on my own and maybe save me some money, but instead you just use the heartless line, which frankly was not convincing to me or nearly detailed enough to be of any help in actually trying to cap this. All I read everywhere was Serbian sentiment and I did not think it through, just went gung ho and pulled the trigger after winning my Eagles bet. In fact I cheered on the Eagles so hard just so I would have money to spend to make Davis Cup exciting.

    Too bad you did not make your valid points before I pulled the trigger. As it is, pointing out the bad value in greater detail after the fact was practically useless to me and anyone else who read it. Your second post accomplished nothing and your first was not convincing. But post what you wish, it is a free country. I just wish you had made the points sooner. Obviously by checking the order of posts in this thread I had already realized my mistake long before you came in to point out the exact same thoughts.

    Like I wrote, live and learn.
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    i am giving up on you, i thought you were smart initially, now reading more of you i think you have no clue what you are doing.
    good luck mate 
    I definitely had no idea what I was doing with this wager. I already admitted as such long before you came in to echo the sentiment.

    This was one of the threads I checked before making my bet, just to see if there were any angles that could talk me out of it. If you had made your second post originally it would have tapped into thoughts I would later have on my own and maybe save me some money, but instead you just use the heartless line, which frankly was not convincing to me or nearly detailed enough to be of any help in actually trying to cap this. All I read everywhere was Serbian sentiment and I did not think it through, just went gung ho and pulled the trigger after winning my Eagles bet. In fact I cheered on the Eagles so hard just so I would have money to spend to make Davis Cup exciting.

    Too bad you did not make your valid points before I pulled the trigger. As it is, pointing out the bad value in greater detail after the fact was practically useless to me and anyone else who read it. Your second post accomplished nothing and your first was not convincing. But post what you wish, it is a free country. I just wish you had made the points sooner. Obviously by checking the order of posts in this thread I had already realized my mistake long before you came in to point out the exact same thoughts.

    Like I wrote, live and learn.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 3:38 AM ET #102

    ...and despite knowing I made a huge value mistake and am now basically laying -245 on a Serbian sweep, I hope to get away with my mistake. Both Serbians are favored so hopefully as with the first three matches the faves sweep. I think given their h2h and his long match yesterday that Tipsveravic would be a slight favorite over Llodra as well.
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    I am parlaying my hedge unit with the Packers ML, Chargers ML and Rams -3 and Djoker to pay out most of the 8 units I would have lost on Serbia, basically empowering picks I always liked more if the fifth rubber does not go my way, and putting it on them whether or not I get my money back.
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    ...and despite knowing I made a huge value mistake and am now basically laying -245 on a Serbian sweep, I hope to get away with my mistake. Both Serbians are favored so hopefully as with the first three matches the faves sweep. I think given their h2h and his long match yesterday that Tipsveravic would be a slight favorite over Llodra as well.
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    I am parlaying my hedge unit with the Packers ML, Chargers ML and Rams -3 and Djoker to pay out most of the 8 units I would have lost on Serbia, basically empowering picks I always liked more if the fifth rubber does not go my way, and putting it on them whether or not I get my money back.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 5:05 AM ET #103

    Tipsa will play vs SImon or Llodra???

    All bookies say he plays vs SImon?

    Imo, its better for France if Llodra plays...
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    Tipsa will play vs SImon or Llodra???

    All bookies say he plays vs SImon?

    Imo, its better for France if Llodra plays...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 5:53 AM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123:

    Tipsa will play vs SImon or Llodra???

    All bookies say he plays vs SImon?

    Imo, its better for France if Llodra plays...
    They say Simon but everyone and their grandmother thinks it will be Llodra. I agree it might help France more despite his h2h with Tips because he is more dynamic and aggressive than Simon, and showed better recent form. But Simon has a better career and other than Pairs better recent results so it would not be all that shocking if they let him play. The line movement indicates people are pounding Simon.

    I hope he plays if only so I do not have to hedge all over again, and because the books might not even get the line up in time if it is changed to Llodra. Playing at a slower to react book like Bookmaker instead of say, 5dimes might burn me there.

    The coach has until the end of the Djokovic-Monfils match to decide whether to change his player, both do. At least that is what I remember reading. I think if they plan on making a change they are holding it back until the last minute so the other coach will not have as much time to dwell on an adjustment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123:

    Tipsa will play vs SImon or Llodra???

    All bookies say he plays vs SImon?

    Imo, its better for France if Llodra plays...
    They say Simon but everyone and their grandmother thinks it will be Llodra. I agree it might help France more despite his h2h with Tips because he is more dynamic and aggressive than Simon, and showed better recent form. But Simon has a better career and other than Pairs better recent results so it would not be all that shocking if they let him play. The line movement indicates people are pounding Simon.

    I hope he plays if only so I do not have to hedge all over again, and because the books might not even get the line up in time if it is changed to Llodra. Playing at a slower to react book like Bookmaker instead of say, 5dimes might burn me there.

    The coach has until the end of the Djokovic-Monfils match to decide whether to change his player, both do. At least that is what I remember reading. I think if they plan on making a change they are holding it back until the last minute so the other coach will not have as much time to dwell on an adjustment.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 5:56 AM ET #105

    and like I wrote earlier I hope the 4.5 hour match he played yesterday will convince his coach not to risk things on Llodra. If Llodra does play I just hope he returns as poorly as he did for the majority of the match yesterday, that is what I will have my hopes up about. But he would sure be tough to break.
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    and like I wrote earlier I hope the 4.5 hour match he played yesterday will convince his coach not to risk things on Llodra. If Llodra does play I just hope he returns as poorly as he did for the majority of the match yesterday, that is what I will have my hopes up about. But he would sure be tough to break.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 7:50 AM ET #106

    BP, 4,5h match in doubles in nothing...its like a 1h match in singles, there is not much running around...so i think Llodra is not that tired like you say.

    It will be interesting to see the strategies of the coaches for the player selection.

    Right now, Serbia @+110 is a good value bet imo.
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    BP, 4,5h match in doubles in nothing...its like a 1h match in singles, there is not much running around...so i think Llodra is not that tired like you say.

    It will be interesting to see the strategies of the coaches for the player selection.

    Right now, Serbia @+110 is a good value bet imo.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 8:45 AM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123:

    BP, 4,5h match in doubles in nothing...its like a 1h match in singles, there is not much running around...so i think Llodra is not that tired like you say.

    It will be interesting to see the strategies of the coaches for the player selection.

    Right now, Serbia @+110 is a good value bet imo.
    I never said I thought he would be tired, only that I hoped his coach would think that.

    Looks like it is Llodra. He is warming up. And the books have no line out for it.

    5dimes still lists the line as Tips vs Simon. sucks.

    I think Tips will win but sure as fuck want to hedge at least something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123:

    BP, 4,5h match in doubles in nothing...its like a 1h match in singles, there is not much running around...so i think Llodra is not that tired like you say.

    It will be interesting to see the strategies of the coaches for the player selection.

    Right now, Serbia @+110 is a good value bet imo.
    I never said I thought he would be tired, only that I hoped his coach would think that.

    Looks like it is Llodra. He is warming up. And the books have no line out for it.

    5dimes still lists the line as Tips vs Simon. sucks.

    I think Tips will win but sure as fuck want to hedge at least something.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:30 AM ET #108

    looks like troicki vs llodra match 5

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    looks like troicki vs llodra match 5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:36 AM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by sophisticated:

    looks like troicki vs llodra match 5

    yes and no line out

    will they even put one out at all?

    this fucking sucks

    no way to hedge out

    got tips at -245, LOL. in my mind it is more like -120 Tips, and that is being generous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sophisticated:

    looks like troicki vs llodra match 5

    yes and no line out

    will they even put one out at all?

    this fucking sucks

    no way to hedge out

    got tips at -245, LOL. in my mind it is more like -120 Tips, and that is being generous.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:37 AM ET #110

    sry my thread got fucked, it is this bing search engine i downloaded that appears in any new post or thread i start., i have to hit reply then erase someone's post to even make new posts every time, fucking annoying.

    anyone know how to remove the search engine from my browser?
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    sry my thread got fucked, it is this bing search engine i downloaded that appears in any new post or thread i start., i have to hit reply then erase someone's post to even make new posts every time, fucking annoying.

    anyone know how to remove the search engine from my browser?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:39 AM ET #111

    ana ivanovic in the stands supporting her native country, serbia. i only know one thing. if she was there supporting me i would give 200% lol. jelena jankovic supporting serbia and amelie mauresmo supporting france are all there.
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    ana ivanovic in the stands supporting her native country, serbia. i only know one thing. if she was there supporting me i would give 200% lol. jelena jankovic supporting serbia and amelie mauresmo supporting france are all there.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningPlanet26:

    yes and no line out

    will they even put one out at all?

    this fucking sucks

    no way to hedge out

    got tips at -245, LOL. in my mind it is more like -120 Tips, and that is being generous.

     

     i doubt it, the match will start in a few minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningPlanet26:

    yes and no line out

    will they even put one out at all?

    this fucking sucks

    no way to hedge out

    got tips at -245, LOL. in my mind it is more like -120 Tips, and that is being generous.

     

     i doubt it, the match will start in a few minutes

     
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    Troicki vs Llodra, good call. Troicki should be tough for Llodra to break. I like the call a lot.

    I would rather ride or die with Troicki here. He has a higher peak level than Tips to me even if he is a choker. He did win his title this year.

    This was the right call by both teams.
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    Troicki vs Llodra, good call. Troicki should be tough for Llodra to break. I like the call a lot.

    I would rather ride or die with Troicki here. He has a higher peak level than Tips to me even if he is a choker. He did win his title this year.

    This was the right call by both teams.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:42 AM ET #114

    Quote Originally Posted by sophisticated:

     

     i doubt it, the match will start in a few minutes

    true. good luck if you have Serbia and all Serbia backers. wish those fuckers would come out of the woodwork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sophisticated:

     

     i doubt it, the match will start in a few minutes

    true. good luck if you have Serbia and all Serbia backers. wish those fuckers would come out of the woodwork.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningPlanet26:

    Troicki vs Llodra, good call. Troicki should be tough for Llodra to break. I like the call a lot.

    I would rather ride or die with Troicki here. He has a higher peak level than Tips to me even if he is a choker. He did win his title this year.

    This was the right call by both teams.

     

    I agree. Tipsi won the deciding point against Czech Republic in the semies but Troicki is playing better tenis right now. LLodra and Troicki both played well in doubles yesterday. Llodra was better, but he is a better doubles player. Nive chance for Troicki to get his revenge here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningPlanet26:

    Troicki vs Llodra, good call. Troicki should be tough for Llodra to break. I like the call a lot.

    I would rather ride or die with Troicki here. He has a higher peak level than Tips to me even if he is a choker. He did win his title this year.

    This was the right call by both teams.

     

    I agree. Tipsi won the deciding point against Czech Republic in the semies but Troicki is playing better tenis right now. LLodra and Troicki both played well in doubles yesterday. Llodra was better, but he is a better doubles player. Nive chance for Troicki to get his revenge here.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningPlanet26:

    true. good luck if you have Serbia and all Serbia backers. wish those fuckers would come out of the woodwork.

     

    No bets for me. Just love the Davis Cup action. Rooting for the small country with amazing all sports success from basketball to tennis (Serbia).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningPlanet26:

    true. good luck if you have Serbia and all Serbia backers. wish those fuckers would come out of the woodwork.

     

    No bets for me. Just love the Davis Cup action. Rooting for the small country with amazing all sports success from basketball to tennis (Serbia).

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:50 AM ET #117

    Quote Originally Posted by sophisticated:

     

    I agree. Tipsi won the deciding point against Czech Republic in the semies but Troicki is playing better tenis right now. LLodra and Troicki both played well in doubles yesterday. Llodra was better, but he is a better doubles player. Nive chance for Troicki to get his revenge here.

    nice post.

    I would definitely rather sink or swim with Troicki after the inspired play he showed for two sets yesterday. I thought he was the best player on the court for two sets until his form dipped and the French picked theirs up. I agree this is an ideal chance for revenge.

    Llodra is hard to figure. He has had a mediocre year but a few brilliant upsets and a fantastic run in Paris. I have seen him go from beating down Berdych in three sets to losing the very next round easily to Robredo...
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    I agree. Tipsi won the deciding point against Czech Republic in the semies but Troicki is playing better tenis right now. LLodra and Troicki both played well in doubles yesterday. Llodra was better, but he is a better doubles player. Nive chance for Troicki to get his revenge here.

    nice post.

    I would definitely rather sink or swim with Troicki after the inspired play he showed for two sets yesterday. I thought he was the best player on the court for two sets until his form dipped and the French picked theirs up. I agree this is an ideal chance for revenge.

    Llodra is hard to figure. He has had a mediocre year but a few brilliant upsets and a fantastic run in Paris. I have seen him go from beating down Berdych in three sets to losing the very next round easily to Robredo...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 9:52 AM ET #118

    5dimes has a line

    not on players but teams

    France is -150

    Bookmaker of course is way too slow

    so +130 to cash my -245. yikes.
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    5dimes has a line

    not on players but teams

    France is -150

    Bookmaker of course is way too slow

    so +130 to cash my -245. yikes.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningPlanet26:

    5dimes has a line

    not on players but teams

    France is -150

    Bookmaker of course is way too slow

    so +130 to cash my -245. yikes.


    Troicki starts with a double break, 5-1! not +130 anymore!!!!

    set point to triple break LLODRA in the first set!
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    5dimes has a line

    not on players but teams

    France is -150

    Bookmaker of course is way too slow

    so +130 to cash my -245. yikes.


    Troicki starts with a double break, 5-1! not +130 anymore!!!!

    set point to triple break LLODRA in the first set!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 10:40 AM ET #120

    This surface is not good to S&V on, Serbia picked well.

    6-2 first set for Troicki

    -333 to win in live now, and those of us who laid -245 are after one set ahead of the game for the moment. That thrills me. This next set is vital IMHO.
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    This surface is not good to S&V on, Serbia picked well.

    6-2 first set for Troicki

    -333 to win in live now, and those of us who laid -245 are after one set ahead of the game for the moment. That thrills me. This next set is vital IMHO.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 11:00 AM ET #121

    Troicki might be playing the match of his life and I could not be more thrilled to be watching it.
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    Troicki might be playing the match of his life and I could not be more thrilled to be watching it.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 11:10 AM ET #122

    up a set and a break at 4-2 Troicki is -1000 to win this match

    same as the Serbian doubles team was yesterday when up two sets.
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    up a set and a break at 4-2 Troicki is -1000 to win this match

    same as the Serbian doubles team was yesterday when up two sets.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2010 - 11:10 AM ET #123

    and people said playing Troicki was a huge error! It is looking like a genius move by the Serbian coach right now.
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    and people said playing Troicki was a huge error! It is looking like a genius move by the Serbian coach right now.
     
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    Troicki leads by a set and a double break!   
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    Quote Originally Posted by sophisticated:

     

    No bets for me. Just love the Davis Cup action. Rooting for the small country with amazing all sports success from basketball to tennis (Serbia).



    Troicki leads 6-2 6-2

    -1400 in live betting.
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    No bets for me. Just love the Davis Cup action. Rooting for the small country with amazing all sports success from basketball to tennis (Serbia).



    Troicki leads 6-2 6-2

    -1400 in live betting.
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