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    pairunoyd
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2007 - 10:52 PM ET #1

    I know most frown on buying picks, but if you can win with it, Ill do anything!  :)
     
    However, it seems youd have to put a good bit on the game to cover the cost of the pick, especially if you buy just 1 pick or 1 week.
     
    Anyone here have any experiences w/ professional cappers?
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I know most frown on buying picks, but if you can win with it, Ill do anything!  :)
     
    However, it seems youd have to put a good bit on the game to cover the cost of the pick, especially if you buy just 1 pick or 1 week.
     
    Anyone here have any experiences w/ professional cappers?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2007 - 1:07 AM ET #2

    If I told you I was a pro capper with a 65% winning average and I can give you 3 winners tomorrow for $25 would you pay?
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    If I told you I was a pro capper with a 65% winning average and I can give you 3 winners tomorrow for $25 would you pay?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2007 - 11:53 AM ET #3

    that's really really funny.  That brightened up my day.  Probably everyone has looked into buying advice at sometime or other, ones who have done it now know better. Good Luck.
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    that's really really funny.  That brightened up my day.  Probably everyone has looked into buying advice at sometime or other, ones who have done it now know better. Good Luck.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2007 - 8:39 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkysden:

    If I told you I was a pro capper with a 65% winning average and I can give you 3 winners tomorrow for $25 would you pay?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharkysden:

    If I told you I was a pro capper with a 65% winning average and I can give you 3 winners tomorrow for $25 would you pay?



     
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    Posted: May. 1, 2007 - 3:25 PM ET #5

    ehem of course I wasn't talking about the covers cappers wallstreet, sorry that was out of line. 
     
     
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    ehem of course I wasn't talking about the covers cappers wallstreet, sorry that was out of line. 
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 6:07 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by bigjoe:

    Probably everyone has looked into buying advice at sometime or other, ones who have done it now know better.


    Quoted for truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigjoe:

    Probably everyone has looked into buying advice at sometime or other, ones who have done it now know better.


    Quoted for truth.

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    Vividjohn
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2007 - 3:49 PM ET #7

    they are not very good on their free plays. supposedly free plays are of lesser quality, but why give out poop?
     
    i was tracking them on my threds a week ago, and when i have time i track them also.
     
    i'd be careful of them, at this point.
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    they are not very good on their free plays. supposedly free plays are of lesser quality, but why give out poop?
     
    i was tracking them on my threds a week ago, and when i have time i track them also.
     
    i'd be careful of them, at this point.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2007 - 3:50 PM ET #8

    if a freebie is for me to taste the goods, why stinkers.?
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    if a freebie is for me to taste the goods, why stinkers.?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2007 - 3:51 PM ET #9

    "i know my freebie pix stink, but go for my paid pix, they are much, much better."
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    "i know my freebie pix stink, but go for my paid pix, they are much, much better."
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2007 - 3:51 PM ET #10

    "i know my freebie pix stink, but go for my paid pix, they are much, much better."
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    "i know my freebie pix stink, but go for my paid pix, they are much, much better."
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2007 - 12:36 PM ET #11

    TO PAIRUNOYD
      I AM A PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER AND TAUGHT HANDICAPPING IN COLLEGE IN 1973. I STILL TEACH IT. A NON WINNER WILL REMAIN A NON WINNER UNLESS HE IS WILLING TO CHANGE. A GOOD PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO IF YOU HAVE LOST IN THE PAST AND COTINUE TO LOSE. MONEY MANAGEMENT THEN BECOMES EVERYTHING. MY PEOPLE WIN 100 MORE GAMES THEN THEY LOSE IN BASKETBALL AND FOOTBALL. THOSE BUYING MY SERVICE SWEAR BY IT AND THOSE TAKING MY COURSE WILL NEVER HANDICAP ANOTHER WAY. THAT IS THEIR WORDS NOT MINE. WHY WOULD ANYBODY CONTINUE TO BET WHEN THEY CONTINUE TO LOSE. THEY MUST HAVE A SECRET DESIRE TO PUNISH THEMSELVES. GO TO A GOOD PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER AND RISK ABOUT 6% OF YOUR INCOME ON AN AVERAGE PLAY AND YOU WILL BECOME RICH IF YOU CONTINUE IN THIS MANNER AND THE HANDICAPPER HITS 60% OF HIS PLAYS. MY STUDENTS HIT OVER 65% OF THEIR PLAYS. SOME HAVE TURNED INTO WINNERS FROM HABITUAL LOSERS. SOME HOWEVER CONTINUE TO LOSE . IT IS HARD TO LOSE WITH ME BUT THEY HAVE  A SECRET DESIRE TO LOSE AND THEY FIND THE WAY
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    TO PAIRUNOYD
      I AM A PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER AND TAUGHT HANDICAPPING IN COLLEGE IN 1973. I STILL TEACH IT. A NON WINNER WILL REMAIN A NON WINNER UNLESS HE IS WILLING TO CHANGE. A GOOD PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO IF YOU HAVE LOST IN THE PAST AND COTINUE TO LOSE. MONEY MANAGEMENT THEN BECOMES EVERYTHING. MY PEOPLE WIN 100 MORE GAMES THEN THEY LOSE IN BASKETBALL AND FOOTBALL. THOSE BUYING MY SERVICE SWEAR BY IT AND THOSE TAKING MY COURSE WILL NEVER HANDICAP ANOTHER WAY. THAT IS THEIR WORDS NOT MINE. WHY WOULD ANYBODY CONTINUE TO BET WHEN THEY CONTINUE TO LOSE. THEY MUST HAVE A SECRET DESIRE TO PUNISH THEMSELVES. GO TO A GOOD PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER AND RISK ABOUT 6% OF YOUR INCOME ON AN AVERAGE PLAY AND YOU WILL BECOME RICH IF YOU CONTINUE IN THIS MANNER AND THE HANDICAPPER HITS 60% OF HIS PLAYS. MY STUDENTS HIT OVER 65% OF THEIR PLAYS. SOME HAVE TURNED INTO WINNERS FROM HABITUAL LOSERS. SOME HOWEVER CONTINUE TO LOSE . IT IS HARD TO LOSE WITH ME BUT THEY HAVE  A SECRET DESIRE TO LOSE AND THEY FIND THE WAY
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2007 - 3:57 AM ET #12

    So true. I tend togo to the bar w/ my profits, blackout, and then seriously dent my bankroll. There are good cappers in here but don't think your smart and make your own plays cause then your know better than me. At least I get drunk once
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    So true. I tend togo to the bar w/ my profits, blackout, and then seriously dent my bankroll. There are good cappers in here but don't think your smart and make your own plays cause then your know better than me. At least I get drunk once
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2007 - 10:06 AM ET #13

    Don't pay for picks ever, we have the best cappers right here and it cost nothing. 
     
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    Don't pay for picks ever, we have the best cappers right here and it cost nothing. 
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2007 - 5:07 PM ET #14

    Kopak, I'm looking forward to seeing some of your picks for this week and picks for the future!

    Quote Originally Posted by professorkopak:

    TO PAIRUNOYD
      I AM A PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER AND TAUGHT HANDICAPPING IN COLLEGE IN 1973. I STILL TEACH IT. A NON WINNER WILL REMAIN A NON WINNER UNLESS HE IS WILLING TO CHANGE. A GOOD PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO IF YOU HAVE LOST IN THE PAST AND COTINUE TO LOSE. MONEY MANAGEMENT THEN BECOMES EVERYTHING. MY PEOPLE WIN 100 MORE GAMES THEN THEY LOSE IN BASKETBALL AND FOOTBALL. THOSE BUYING MY SERVICE SWEAR BY IT AND THOSE TAKING MY COURSE WILL NEVER HANDICAP ANOTHER WAY. THAT IS THEIR WORDS NOT MINE. WHY WOULD ANYBODY CONTINUE TO BET WHEN THEY CONTINUE TO LOSE. THEY MUST HAVE A SECRET DESIRE TO PUNISH THEMSELVES. GO TO A GOOD PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER AND RISK ABOUT 6% OF YOUR INCOME ON AN AVERAGE PLAY AND YOU WILL BECOME RICH IF YOU CONTINUE IN THIS MANNER AND THE HANDICAPPER HITS 60% OF HIS PLAYS. MY STUDENTS HIT OVER 65% OF THEIR PLAYS. SOME HAVE TURNED INTO WINNERS FROM HABITUAL LOSERS. SOME HOWEVER CONTINUE TO LOSE . IT IS HARD TO LOSE WITH ME BUT THEY HAVE  A SECRET DESIRE TO LOSE AND THEY FIND THE WAY
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    Kopak, I'm looking forward to seeing some of your picks for this week and picks for the future!

    Quote Originally Posted by professorkopak:

    TO PAIRUNOYD
      I AM A PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER AND TAUGHT HANDICAPPING IN COLLEGE IN 1973. I STILL TEACH IT. A NON WINNER WILL REMAIN A NON WINNER UNLESS HE IS WILLING TO CHANGE. A GOOD PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO IF YOU HAVE LOST IN THE PAST AND COTINUE TO LOSE. MONEY MANAGEMENT THEN BECOMES EVERYTHING. MY PEOPLE WIN 100 MORE GAMES THEN THEY LOSE IN BASKETBALL AND FOOTBALL. THOSE BUYING MY SERVICE SWEAR BY IT AND THOSE TAKING MY COURSE WILL NEVER HANDICAP ANOTHER WAY. THAT IS THEIR WORDS NOT MINE. WHY WOULD ANYBODY CONTINUE TO BET WHEN THEY CONTINUE TO LOSE. THEY MUST HAVE A SECRET DESIRE TO PUNISH THEMSELVES. GO TO A GOOD PROFESSIONAL HANDICAPPER AND RISK ABOUT 6% OF YOUR INCOME ON AN AVERAGE PLAY AND YOU WILL BECOME RICH IF YOU CONTINUE IN THIS MANNER AND THE HANDICAPPER HITS 60% OF HIS PLAYS. MY STUDENTS HIT OVER 65% OF THEIR PLAYS. SOME HAVE TURNED INTO WINNERS FROM HABITUAL LOSERS. SOME HOWEVER CONTINUE TO LOSE . IT IS HARD TO LOSE WITH ME BUT THEY HAVE  A SECRET DESIRE TO LOSE AND THEY FIND THE WAY
     
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    Posted: Sep. 5, 2007 - 5:08 PM ET #15

    Let me try that again....

    Kopak, I am looking forward to your NFL picks for this week, and future weeks as well!
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    Let me try that again....

    Kopak, I am looking forward to your NFL picks for this week, and future weeks as well!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2007 - 2:02 AM ET #16

    You're already laying 11/10.  That vig alone will kill anyone under 54%.  Add the tout fees on top and it's a no win situation.  Find a tout that can actually prove they been over 54% over the long run with all picks.
     
    This WHY you don't pay for services.
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    You're already laying 11/10.  That vig alone will kill anyone under 54%.  Add the tout fees on top and it's a no win situation.  Find a tout that can actually prove they been over 54% over the long run with all picks.
     
    This WHY you don't pay for services.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2007 - 11:19 AM ET #17

    Should read, This is WHY you don't pay for services.
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    Should read, This is WHY you don't pay for services.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2007 - 11:00 PM ET #18

    don't ever pay... no ... no... they laugh at u ...... and take ur money........ trust ME
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    don't ever pay... no ... no... they laugh at u ...... and take ur money........ trust ME
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2007 - 9:23 AM ET #20

    if ur really dedicated to gambling you could win as much ...\
    u should have money management bro thats the key to winning
    i have read one thread u only bet what u can afford to lose.
    dont chase ur monye u have lost already be...
    be a progressive bettor if u win not when ur losing...
    last 2003 when i step out of school i hit 65% that year bt when i enrolled again my percentage drop you can see it at may wagerline acct though.
     
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    if ur really dedicated to gambling you could win as much ...\
    u should have money management bro thats the key to winning
    i have read one thread u only bet what u can afford to lose.
    dont chase ur monye u have lost already be...
    be a progressive bettor if u win not when ur losing...
    last 2003 when i step out of school i hit 65% that year bt when i enrolled again my percentage drop you can see it at may wagerline acct though.
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2008 - 6:12 PM ET #22

    I was stupid and bought picks before. I bought picks from Dukesports.com- Big mistake. They had three layers- a bunch of quality picks, a smaller set of better picks, and a few great ones...well, I purchased the cheap package...then they refused to give the picks to me until I purchased the next package....I did so....and then they refused to give them to me again until I bought the next package at $1,000 a season! I said "no", but it was already too late...they stole 400 bucks from me.
     
    Then there is Brettmavericksports. They are more honest. But they still cheat you. I remember I bought a package last year for basketball picks. Then, about midseason, they come out with these "gold star" locks. They cost 100 bucks a week. 50% of their plays become gold star locks...and basically the season picks I bought were garbage.
     
    And Brettmaverick sports manipulates the spread line. For example, won game was the UK-Bowling Green game or something like that. They gave out the pick at -6. But by the time game time started it was -8. Kentucky won by 7. They claimed it as a win. HOwever, on mulitiple occassions the opposite happened...and they claimed you should have bought the pick at the price it started at.
     
    I have tried maxxports too. They are cheap and fair. But with my experience with them, they didn't win very well. Of course I only followed them shortly.
     
    So I have had bad experience with handicappers. Think about it. If a guy was truly good at handicapping, would he need to sell his picks? Or would he move to Vegas and make a fortune?
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    I was stupid and bought picks before. I bought picks from Dukesports.com- Big mistake. They had three layers- a bunch of quality picks, a smaller set of better picks, and a few great ones...well, I purchased the cheap package...then they refused to give the picks to me until I purchased the next package....I did so....and then they refused to give them to me again until I bought the next package at $1,000 a season! I said "no", but it was already too late...they stole 400 bucks from me.
     
    Then there is Brettmavericksports. They are more honest. But they still cheat you. I remember I bought a package last year for basketball picks. Then, about midseason, they come out with these "gold star" locks. They cost 100 bucks a week. 50% of their plays become gold star locks...and basically the season picks I bought were garbage.
     
    And Brettmaverick sports manipulates the spread line. For example, won game was the UK-Bowling Green game or something like that. They gave out the pick at -6. But by the time game time started it was -8. Kentucky won by 7. They claimed it as a win. HOwever, on mulitiple occassions the opposite happened...and they claimed you should have bought the pick at the price it started at.
     
    I have tried maxxports too. They are cheap and fair. But with my experience with them, they didn't win very well. Of course I only followed them shortly.
     
    So I have had bad experience with handicappers. Think about it. If a guy was truly good at handicapping, would he need to sell his picks? Or would he move to Vegas and make a fortune?
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2008 - 11:19 PM ET #23

    I bought from adamwins.com and was not happy. I stopped playing behind his picks and found that I did better the weeks I faded him. Most of the services are scams, just google it. They're run like marketing campaigns and often they will have pick lines that give one side of the # on one line and the other side of the # to the other line, that way they look smart to one side of their customers. The 2 cappers on here that I like to follow are Rush and Matrixx. But at the end of the day it's your money and you can choose to do what you want with it.
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    I bought from adamwins.com and was not happy. I stopped playing behind his picks and found that I did better the weeks I faded him. Most of the services are scams, just google it. They're run like marketing campaigns and often they will have pick lines that give one side of the # on one line and the other side of the # to the other line, that way they look smart to one side of their customers. The 2 cappers on here that I like to follow are Rush and Matrixx. But at the end of the day it's your money and you can choose to do what you want with it.
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