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    KMang
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2009 - 9:30 AM ET #301

    I would be very interested in seeing if we can come up with a Modified Labby system specifically for this Chase.  I have been playing it as a strict Martingale and thats fine with me because the juice is always friendly on O/U plays....But a Labby is always preferred I guess.....

    Even with a Martingale, and the 5 losses, that should equate to being about 30 units up....maybe 25 or so if you factor in some juice.  Those results work for me!

    Keep up the good work Gasman and Kangy!!

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    I would be very interested in seeing if we can come up with a Modified Labby system specifically for this Chase.  I have been playing it as a strict Martingale and thats fine with me because the juice is always friendly on O/U plays....But a Labby is always preferred I guess.....

    Even with a Martingale, and the 5 losses, that should equate to being about 30 units up....maybe 25 or so if you factor in some juice.  Those results work for me!

    Keep up the good work Gasman and Kangy!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2009 - 12:25 PM ET #302

    Quote Originally Posted by usakangy:

    Picked up 2 series wins with Florida last night and a huge series loss with Washington, was hoping for that push!

    Paulus, jtyke - let me go back and re-do those numbers.  Looks like like there was an additional loss or two that was missed, so I am going to go over every team again to make sure.  Two losses in the last two days for sure.

    Like Montana says, money management is the key.  Spread those losses across the next set of series.  I will go back and work on a legitimate money management example to help out.  If you are Martingaling this system like the unit system says, each series loss is approximately 7 units (not counting juice), it might be easier to spread a loss over the next 7 series in an attempt to recoup those losses.  However, with the last two losses, that would either mean doubling or tripling our normal bet size to regain the losses. 

    I want to work on a surefire labourchere method that is easy to do and minimize losses.  I have been experimenting with one, I just need to make sure I can present it in a way that everyone can understand....  then it this will no longer be about units, it will be about clearing lines for profit which is the ultimate goal.


    Current open series that I have through games of 11/20.....

    11/14 OTT [C], PIT [C]
    11/15 CHI [B]
    11/17 MTL [B]
    11/19 CAR [A], ATL [A], STL [A], NAS [A], ANA [A]
    11/20 BUF [A], DET [A]

    34-2 Since October 26 Gasman posts
    66-5 unofficial record for season


    Games for Saturday
    PIT [C] / ATL [A] - o6
    BUF [A] / OTT [C] - u5.5
    DET [A] / MTL [B] - u5.5
    TB / CAR [A] - u5.5
    CLB / NAS [A] - u5.5
    NYI / STL [A] - u5.5
    SJ / ANA [A] - u5.5
    CHI [B] / EDM - u5.5

    At least we have a shot at clearing the board tonight.  Every team on the "chase" list is playing!!

    We will prevail!! 

    I think labby is a great idea.  I've been to the website: https://platinumsportsinvesting.com/labourchere.aspx  its great and i understand those examples but when you're betting 5-7 games at different chase levels it gets confusing.  If someone could post the current labby lines for one of our starting chases and update it each day we could all learn the correct way in real time.  Our  individual starting bet would be a multiple of current labby line so it could apply to everyone's different betting amts.  Just an idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usakangy:

    Picked up 2 series wins with Florida last night and a huge series loss with Washington, was hoping for that push!

    Paulus, jtyke - let me go back and re-do those numbers.  Looks like like there was an additional loss or two that was missed, so I am going to go over every team again to make sure.  Two losses in the last two days for sure.

    Like Montana says, money management is the key.  Spread those losses across the next set of series.  I will go back and work on a legitimate money management example to help out.  If you are Martingaling this system like the unit system says, each series loss is approximately 7 units (not counting juice), it might be easier to spread a loss over the next 7 series in an attempt to recoup those losses.  However, with the last two losses, that would either mean doubling or tripling our normal bet size to regain the losses. 

    I want to work on a surefire labourchere method that is easy to do and minimize losses.  I have been experimenting with one, I just need to make sure I can present it in a way that everyone can understand....  then it this will no longer be about units, it will be about clearing lines for profit which is the ultimate goal.


    Current open series that I have through games of 11/20.....

    11/14 OTT [C], PIT [C]
    11/15 CHI [B]
    11/17 MTL [B]
    11/19 CAR [A], ATL [A], STL [A], NAS [A], ANA [A]
    11/20 BUF [A], DET [A]

    34-2 Since October 26 Gasman posts
    66-5 unofficial record for season


    Games for Saturday
    PIT [C] / ATL [A] - o6
    BUF [A] / OTT [C] - u5.5
    DET [A] / MTL [B] - u5.5
    TB / CAR [A] - u5.5
    CLB / NAS [A] - u5.5
    NYI / STL [A] - u5.5
    SJ / ANA [A] - u5.5
    CHI [B] / EDM - u5.5

    At least we have a shot at clearing the board tonight.  Every team on the "chase" list is playing!!

    We will prevail!! 

    I think labby is a great idea.  I've been to the website: https://platinumsportsinvesting.com/labourchere.aspx  its great and i understand those examples but when you're betting 5-7 games at different chase levels it gets confusing.  If someone could post the current labby lines for one of our starting chases and update it each day we could all learn the correct way in real time.  Our  individual starting bet would be a multiple of current labby line so it could apply to everyone's different betting amts.  Just an idea.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2009 - 1:10 PM ET #303

    Somewhat familiar with what you said
    I know a version of this as the up down martingale which yes applied to a solid system can be successful too
    Cool............
    Over the river or through the woods to grandma's house we go
    As long we get there no matter which way
    Appreciate

    Bummer with loses but we'll get 'em back guys
    Thanks Kangy..........
    He' right - no need to worry with this juice and series loses
    There's some fine cooking here and add a little sprinkle of some wise recovery MM methods can make for nice BR when its time to feast
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    Somewhat familiar with what you said
    I know a version of this as the up down martingale which yes applied to a solid system can be successful too
    Cool............
    Over the river or through the woods to grandma's house we go
    As long we get there no matter which way
    Appreciate

    Bummer with loses but we'll get 'em back guys
    Thanks Kangy..........
    He' right - no need to worry with this juice and series loses
    There's some fine cooking here and add a little sprinkle of some wise recovery MM methods can make for nice BR when its time to feast
     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2009 - 5:10 PM ET #304

    I got Pitt at 6.5?  Sorry if I missed, but would still play over?
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    I got Pitt at 6.5?  Sorry if I missed, but would still play over?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2009 - 12:40 AM ET #305

    This is what I am playing on the "System C' since Oct26th...

    ...sooooo next plays....Chase teams are in Green...

    Fri Nov 20...MON/WAS...[A] & [C]...on the [C]

                   ...FLA/det...[B] &[C]...

    Sat Nov 21...PIT/ATL...[C] & [A]...on the [C]

                    ...NAS/clb...[A]...

                   ...OTT/buf...[C] & [A]... on the [C]

                   ...CAR/tb...[A]...

                  ...STL/nyi...[A]...

    Sun 22Nov...ATL/tb...[B]

    Mon 23Nov...NAS/det...[A] & [B]

                   ...TOR/nyi...[A]

    Tue 24Nov...MON/clb...[A]

    Wed 25Nov...BUF/was...[B]

    [A]....1 unit play

    [B]...2 unit play

    [C]...4 unit play

     

    SYSTEM C Series W-L Record (since starting 26Oct09)

           38-4...+20 units....

    ....68-7 for the 2009 Season....+19units...

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    This is what I am playing on the "System C' since Oct26th...

    ...sooooo next plays....Chase teams are in Green...

    Fri Nov 20...MON/WAS...[A] & [C]...on the [C]

                   ...FLA/det...[B] &[C]...

    Sat Nov 21...PIT/ATL...[C] & [A]...on the [C]

                    ...NAS/clb...[A]...

                   ...OTT/buf...[C] & [A]... on the [C]

                   ...CAR/tb...[A]...

                  ...STL/nyi...[A]...

    Sun 22Nov...ATL/tb...[B]

    Mon 23Nov...NAS/det...[A] & [B]

                   ...TOR/nyi...[A]

    Tue 24Nov...MON/clb...[A]

    Wed 25Nov...BUF/was...[B]

    [A]....1 unit play

    [B]...2 unit play

    [C]...4 unit play

     

    SYSTEM C Series W-L Record (since starting 26Oct09)

           38-4...+20 units....

    ....68-7 for the 2009 Season....+19units...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2009 - 12:51 PM ET #306

    I'm going to start System A!

    Thanks for showing off this system.

    If anyone wants to tracks/follow and has a CentSports account, let me know.
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    I'm going to start System A!

    Thanks for showing off this system.

    If anyone wants to tracks/follow and has a CentSports account, let me know.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2009 - 8:52 PM ET #307

    This is what I am playing on the "System C' since Oct26th...

    ...sooooo next plays....Chase teams are in Green...

    Sun 22Nov...ATL/tb...[B]...

    Mon 23Nov...NAS/det...[A] & [B]

                   ...TOR/nyi...[A]

    Tue 24Nov...MON/clb...[A]

    Wed 25Nov...BUF/was...[B]

                    ...ATL/det...[A]

    [A]....1 unit play

    [B]...2 unit play

    [C]...4 unit play

     

    SYSTEM C Series W-L Record (since starting 26Oct09)

           39-4...+21 units....

    ....69-7 for the 2009 Season....+20units...

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    This is what I am playing on the "System C' since Oct26th...

    ...sooooo next plays....Chase teams are in Green...

    Sun 22Nov...ATL/tb...[B]...

    Mon 23Nov...NAS/det...[A] & [B]

                   ...TOR/nyi...[A]

    Tue 24Nov...MON/clb...[A]

    Wed 25Nov...BUF/was...[B]

                    ...ATL/det...[A]

    [A]....1 unit play

    [B]...2 unit play

    [C]...4 unit play

     

    SYSTEM C Series W-L Record (since starting 26Oct09)

           39-4...+21 units....

    ....69-7 for the 2009 Season....+20units...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 10:03 AM ET #308

    I think you missed a Chicago Game C last night?
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    I think you missed a Chicago Game C last night?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 4:10 PM ET #309

    Did the chigaco game "c" win? did it exist?

    How many people follow this system? if those numbers are correct gasman i would like to stand up and

    so tonight i should take nash/det under and nyi/tor over?

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    Did the chigaco game "c" win? did it exist?

    How many people follow this system? if those numbers are correct gasman i would like to stand up and

    so tonight i should take nash/det under and nyi/tor over?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 4:15 PM ET #310

    It looks that way to me as well.  I missed the chi C game too.  It was a win by the way.

    So what should we do now? try to make it up by increasing future bets?

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    It looks that way to me as well.  I missed the chi C game too.  It was a win by the way.

    So what should we do now? try to make it up by increasing future bets?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 4:27 PM ET #311

    I have been doing this system for about 10 days now and have been using the Labourchere for around 8 months or so.  I started out with half my normal unit size probably a month or so and then will decide whether to raise my wager up to one unit.  The other night when there were several games, I came out ahead but my losses I split by dividing by 5 and applying them to the next five A games only.  3 of the lines have cleared and I now am waiting on the results of tonight's action.  If one or both don't clear I will send the losses to the B bets for these teams.  My next A games will start at half a unit and continue this way unless I have a C loss on either Nashville or Toronto.  I am up 7 (half) units in 7 days.  If you keep your unit size low and let the Labourchere do its stuff, the volume of games should give some pretty good results. But hey, I have only been doing this technique for 10 days.      
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    I have been doing this system for about 10 days now and have been using the Labourchere for around 8 months or so.  I started out with half my normal unit size probably a month or so and then will decide whether to raise my wager up to one unit.  The other night when there were several games, I came out ahead but my losses I split by dividing by 5 and applying them to the next five A games only.  3 of the lines have cleared and I now am waiting on the results of tonight's action.  If one or both don't clear I will send the losses to the B bets for these teams.  My next A games will start at half a unit and continue this way unless I have a C loss on either Nashville or Toronto.  I am up 7 (half) units in 7 days.  If you keep your unit size low and let the Labourchere do its stuff, the volume of games should give some pretty good results. But hey, I have only been doing this technique for 10 days.      
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 4:28 PM ET #312

    Learn the system and you won't need to ever ask questions like this again sir. 

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy_Mandelbaum:

    so tonight i should take nash/det under and nyi/tor over?

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    Learn the system and you won't need to ever ask questions like this again sir. 

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy_Mandelbaum:

    so tonight i should take nash/det under and nyi/tor over?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 4:28 PM ET #313

    Quote Originally Posted by gasman33:

    This is what I am playing on the "System C' since Oct26th...

    ...sooooo next plays....Chase teams are in Green...

    Wed Nov 18...FLA/buf...[A] & [B]...

    Thurs Nov 19...CHI/cal...[C]......

                       ...PIT/OTT...[B] & [B]...

                       ...CLB/dal...[A]...

    Fri Nov 20...MON/WAS...[A] & [C]

                   ...FLA/det...[B] &[C]

    Sat Nov 21...PIT/ATL...[C] & [A]

                    ...NAS/clb...[A]

                   ...OTT/buf...[C]

                   ...CAR/tb...[A]

                  ...STL/nyi...[A]


    [A]....1 unit play

    [B]...2 unit play

    [C]...4 unit play

     

    SYSTEM C Series W-L Record (since starting 26Oct09)

           32-1...+25units....

    ....64-4 for the 2009 Season....+36units...

     

    I had the [C] game Chicago losing on the 19th of nov guys....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gasman33:

    This is what I am playing on the "System C' since Oct26th...

    ...sooooo next plays....Chase teams are in Green...

    Wed Nov 18...FLA/buf...[A] & [B]...

    Thurs Nov 19...CHI/cal...[C]......

                       ...PIT/OTT...[B] & [B]...

                       ...CLB/dal...[A]...

    Fri Nov 20...MON/WAS...[A] & [C]

                   ...FLA/det...[B] &[C]

    Sat Nov 21...PIT/ATL...[C] & [A]

                    ...NAS/clb...[A]

                   ...OTT/buf...[C]

                   ...CAR/tb...[A]

                  ...STL/nyi...[A]


    [A]....1 unit play

    [B]...2 unit play

    [C]...4 unit play

     

    SYSTEM C Series W-L Record (since starting 26Oct09)

           32-1...+25units....

    ....64-4 for the 2009 Season....+36units...

     

    I had the [C] game Chicago losing on the 19th of nov guys....

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 4:29 PM ET #314

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy_Mandelbaum:

    Did the chigaco game "c" win? did it exist?

    How many people follow this system? if those numbers are correct gasman i would like to stand up and

    so tonight i should take nash/det under and nyi/tor over?

     

    ...see above post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy_Mandelbaum:

    Did the chigaco game "c" win? did it exist?

    How many people follow this system? if those numbers are correct gasman i would like to stand up and

    so tonight i should take nash/det under and nyi/tor over?

     

    ...see above post...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 5:28 PM ET #315

    tonight's plays as i see it:  det @ NASH A&B

                                           nyi @ TOR A

    BOL

      

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    tonight's plays as i see it:  det @ NASH A&B

                                           nyi @ TOR A

    BOL

      

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 5:38 PM ET #316

    regarding sunday the 22 nov chicago game; It was a c game from a string started nov 15th. The A game was the 19th at cal over 5.5.  The B game was Nov 21 at ed over 5.5, then the C game was sunday the 22 at van which went under 5.5.

     

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    regarding sunday the 22 nov chicago game; It was a c game from a string started nov 15th. The A game was the 19th at cal over 5.5.  The B game was Nov 21 at ed over 5.5, then the C game was sunday the 22 at van which went under 5.5.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 5:45 PM ET #317

    the c game mentioned by gasman33 was a different string started on nov 11th against col.

    hope that clears that up.

     

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    the c game mentioned by gasman33 was a different string started on nov 11th against col.

    hope that clears that up.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 6:47 PM ET #318

    sorry for asking so many questions. im quite new to NHL but would like to learn.

    Gasman, when you say.. "system C" does that mean you only bet the "C" games or are those just the statistics of the "C" games since october 26th

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    sorry for asking so many questions. im quite new to NHL but would like to learn.

    Gasman, when you say.. "system C" does that mean you only bet the "C" games or are those just the statistics of the "C" games since october 26th

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 6:52 PM ET #319

    Quote Originally Posted by paulus:

    regarding sunday the 22 nov chicago game; It was a c game from a string started nov 15th. The A game was the 19th at cal over 5.5.  The B game was Nov 21 at ed over 5.5, then the C game was sunday the 22 at van which went under 5.5.

    Might be the first time I agree with a Maple Leaf fan, but paulus is correct :)

    GMSI

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulus:

    regarding sunday the 22 nov chicago game; It was a c game from a string started nov 15th. The A game was the 19th at cal over 5.5.  The B game was Nov 21 at ed over 5.5, then the C game was sunday the 22 at van which went under 5.5.

    Might be the first time I agree with a Maple Leaf fan, but paulus is correct :)

    GMSI

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 6:58 PM ET #320

    Well,since i started a week ago,i have caught the losing end of the C losses,but lucked out and played the chi game yesterday.Dumb luck? I like the idea of sprinkling some of the loss money around and recouping it eventually.This system will kick up another run of straight wins  Keep up the posts guys and thanks.
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    Well,since i started a week ago,i have caught the losing end of the C losses,but lucked out and played the chi game yesterday.Dumb luck? I like the idea of sprinkling some of the loss money around and recouping it eventually.This system will kick up another run of straight wins  Keep up the posts guys and thanks.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2009 - 11:06 PM ET #321

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy_Mandelbaum:

    sorry for asking so many questions. im quite new to NHL but would like to learn.

    Gasman, when you say.. "system C" does that mean you only bet the "C" games or are those just the statistics of the "C" games since october 26th

     

     

    system c is just the name of this system you bet them all... game a 1 unit if lose then game b 2 units if lost game c 4 units.... you stop after a win.  if your game c loses then you lost that series....    the first page of this thread has more detail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy_Mandelbaum:

    sorry for asking so many questions. im quite new to NHL but would like to learn.

    Gasman, when you say.. "system C" does that mean you only bet the "C" games or are those just the statistics of the "C" games since october 26th

     

     

    system c is just the name of this system you bet them all... game a 1 unit if lose then game b 2 units if lost game c 4 units.... you stop after a win.  if your game c loses then you lost that series....    the first page of this thread has more detail

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 12:10 AM ET #322

    2 nice wins tonight with Nash A&B and TOR A

    Nashville seemed an easy victory at 3-1 for the under.   In Toronto It was 0-0 with half the game over but thanx to some poor goaltending and the Leafs coming back to tie it at 3 we got the over.

    Way to go System C and thanx to gasman33 and usaKangy.

     

     

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    2 nice wins tonight with Nash A&B and TOR A

    Nashville seemed an easy victory at 3-1 for the under.   In Toronto It was 0-0 with half the game over but thanx to some poor goaltending and the Leafs coming back to tie it at 3 we got the over.

    Way to go System C and thanx to gasman33 and usaKangy.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 9:07 AM ET #323

    this is a very intresting system and from what i read about it i like it
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    this is a very intresting system and from what i read about it i like it
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 11:31 AM ET #324

    Quote Originally Posted by 730champ:

     

     

    system c is just the name of this system you bet them all... game a 1 unit if lose then game b 2 units if lost game c 4 units.... you stop after a win.  if your game c loses then you lost that series....    the first page of this thread has more detail

    thank you very much, i understand now. i thought he was naming it system C and only playing the C games instead of all three. thanks again for the answered question 730champ, appreciate it.

    thanks for the "W"s fellas 

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    Quote Originally Posted by 730champ:

     

     

    system c is just the name of this system you bet them all... game a 1 unit if lose then game b 2 units if lost game c 4 units.... you stop after a win.  if your game c loses then you lost that series....    the first page of this thread has more detail

    thank you very much, i understand now. i thought he was naming it system C and only playing the C games instead of all three. thanks again for the answered question 730champ, appreciate it.

    thanks for the "W"s fellas 

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 1:52 PM ET #325

    Hello

    Which are the system plays for today?


    Thanks

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    Hello

    Which are the system plays for today?


    Thanks

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