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    Underdog ML Round Robin System

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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2015 - 10:02 PM ET #1

    I've been betting long enough to know that there probably isn't a system in existence that hasn't been thought of and truly I don't think one exists that can win. There are too many people on the other side making sure that doesn't happen. 

    I've been using this system for about 4 months, and it's been huge for me. It fits what I like because I like low risk, high reward with lots of action. Basically I'm taking underdogs of 1.5 to 6.5 points though this isn't set in stone, if I like a team and a ML is out there then I take them. This just helps me narrow down the research. I group them into 3's and do a round robin parlay. This gives me 3 parlays, if three team win it pays somewhere between 12-20/1, if two teams win then it pays 2-3/1, if 1 or 0 wins then I lose all 3 bets. Obviously this system counts on parity and betting against the line setters. I play all sports on the system and they seem to all do about the same. I don't have any hard statistics but I look at the games each night and it seems that the underdogs in the range 1.5 to 6.5 win outright between 30 and 40 percent of the time. I'd love to see some actual statistics and some math to see if this is a short term streak or something that might be sustainable. I am including last weeks results to better illustrate what I'm doing. I can go back up to 5 weeks which includes a losing week. 

    Let me know your thoughts, thanks



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    I've been betting long enough to know that there probably isn't a system in existence that hasn't been thought of and truly I don't think one exists that can win. There are too many people on the other side making sure that doesn't happen. 

    I've been using this system for about 4 months, and it's been huge for me. It fits what I like because I like low risk, high reward with lots of action. Basically I'm taking underdogs of 1.5 to 6.5 points though this isn't set in stone, if I like a team and a ML is out there then I take them. This just helps me narrow down the research. I group them into 3's and do a round robin parlay. This gives me 3 parlays, if three team win it pays somewhere between 12-20/1, if two teams win then it pays 2-3/1, if 1 or 0 wins then I lose all 3 bets. Obviously this system counts on parity and betting against the line setters. I play all sports on the system and they seem to all do about the same. I don't have any hard statistics but I look at the games each night and it seems that the underdogs in the range 1.5 to 6.5 win outright between 30 and 40 percent of the time. I'd love to see some actual statistics and some math to see if this is a short term streak or something that might be sustainable. I am including last weeks results to better illustrate what I'm doing. I can go back up to 5 weeks which includes a losing week. 

    Let me know your thoughts, thanks



     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2015 - 10:07 PM ET #2

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    Amount
    Result
    [703] PHOENIX +108 [713] BAYLOR +163 50 / 224 -50 Lose

    [713] BAYLOR +163 [56] SAN JOSE +118
    50 / 237 -50 Lose

    [703] PHOENIX +108
    [56] SAN JOSE +118
    50 / 177 -50 Lose

    [517] RHODE ISLAND +142
    [11] OTTAWA +166
    50 / 272 -50 Lose

    [517] RHODE ISLAND +142
    [537] MICHIGAN +124
    50 / 221 -50 Lose

    [505] HOUSTON +350
    [4] NEW JERSEY +112
    50 / 427 -50 Lose

    [505] HOUSTON +350
    [510] CHICAGO -102
    50 / 396 -50 Lose

    [533] MISSISSIPPI +116
    [554] ILLINOIS CHICAGO +116
    50 / 183 183 Win

    [535] WESTERN MICHIGAN +112
    [547] TEXAS A&M +189
    50 / 256 -50 Lose

    [535] WESTERN MICHIGAN +112
    [13] NY ISLANDERS -1½+222
    50 / 291 -50 Lose



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    [703] PHOENIX +108 [713] BAYLOR +163 50 / 224 -50 Lose

    [713] BAYLOR +163 [56] SAN JOSE +118
    50 / 237 -50 Lose

    [703] PHOENIX +108
    [56] SAN JOSE +118
    50 / 177 -50 Lose

    [517] RHODE ISLAND +142
    [11] OTTAWA +166
    50 / 272 -50 Lose

    [517] RHODE ISLAND +142
    [537] MICHIGAN +124
    50 / 221 -50 Lose

    [505] HOUSTON +350
    [4] NEW JERSEY +112
    50 / 427 -50 Lose

    [505] HOUSTON +350
    [510] CHICAGO -102
    50 / 396 -50 Lose

    [533] MISSISSIPPI +116
    [554] ILLINOIS CHICAGO +116
    50 / 183 183 Win

    [535] WESTERN MICHIGAN +112
    [547] TEXAS A&M +189
    50 / 256 -50 Lose

    [535] WESTERN MICHIGAN +112
    [13] NY ISLANDERS -1½+222
    50 / 291 -50 Lose



     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2015 - 10:08 PM ET #3


    [11] OTTAWA +166
    [537] MICHIGAN +124
    50 / 248 -50 Lose

    [4] NEW JERSEY +112
    [510] CHICAGO -102
    50 / 160 160 Win

    [547] TEXAS A&M +189
    [13] NY ISLANDERS -1½+222
    50 / 415 -50 Lose

    [533] MISSISSIPPI +116
    [539] AUBURN +184
    50 / 257 -50 Lose

    [539] AUBURN +184
    [554] ILLINOIS CHICAGO +116
    50 / 257 -50 Lose

    [711] DENVER +235
    [735] LASALLE +122
    50 / 322 -50 Lose

    [729] NOTRE DAME +143
    [735] LASALLE +122
    50 / 220 -50 Lose

    [719] DETROIT +171
    [704] ORLANDO +162
    50 / 305 -50 Lose

    [704] ORLANDO +162
    [53] NY RANGERS +112
    50 / 228 -50 Lose

    [737] DUQUESNE +126
    [751] PURDUE +266
    50 / 364 -50 Lose

    [751] PURDUE +266
    [757] UTAH STATE +244
    50 / 500 -50 Lose

    [711] DENVER +235
    [729] NOTRE DAME +143
    50 / 357 357 Win

    [719] DETROIT +171
    [53] NY RANGERS +112
    50 / 237 -50 Lose
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    [11] OTTAWA +166
    [537] MICHIGAN +124
    50 / 248 -50 Lose

    [4] NEW JERSEY +112
    [510] CHICAGO -102
    50 / 160 160 Win

    [547] TEXAS A&M +189
    [13] NY ISLANDERS -1½+222
    50 / 415 -50 Lose

    [533] MISSISSIPPI +116
    [539] AUBURN +184
    50 / 257 -50 Lose

    [539] AUBURN +184
    [554] ILLINOIS CHICAGO +116
    50 / 257 -50 Lose

    [711] DENVER +235
    [735] LASALLE +122
    50 / 322 -50 Lose

    [729] NOTRE DAME +143
    [735] LASALLE +122
    50 / 220 -50 Lose

    [719] DETROIT +171
    [704] ORLANDO +162
    50 / 305 -50 Lose

    [704] ORLANDO +162
    [53] NY RANGERS +112
    50 / 228 -50 Lose

    [737] DUQUESNE +126
    [751] PURDUE +266
    50 / 364 -50 Lose

    [751] PURDUE +266
    [757] UTAH STATE +244
    50 / 500 -50 Lose

    [711] DENVER +235
    [729] NOTRE DAME +143
    50 / 357 357 Win

    [719] DETROIT +171
    [53] NY RANGERS +112
    50 / 237 -50 Lose
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2015 - 10:09 PM ET #4


    [737] DUQUESNE +126
    [757] UTAH STATE +244
    50 / 339 -50 Lose

    [1] CALGARY +176
    [565] NIAGARA +155
    50 / 302 -50 Lose

    [565] NIAGARA +155
    [518] APPALACHIAN ST +120
    50 / 231 -50 Lose

    [511] WESTERN KENTUCKY +176
    [516] FLORIDA INTL +147
    50 / 291 291 Win

    [1] CALGARY +176
    [518] APPALACHIAN ST +120
    50 / 254 254 Win

    [502] CHICAGO +107
    [511] WESTERN KENTUCKY +176
    50 / 236 236 Win

    [502] CHICAGO +107
    [516] FLORIDA INTL +147
    50 / 206 206 Win

    [528] UL MONROE +176
    [563] IDAHO U +124
    50 / 259 -50 Lose

    [528] UL MONROE +176
    [15] MONTREAL +137
    50 / 277 -50 Lose

    [563] IDAHO U +124
    [15] MONTREAL +137
    50 / 215 -50 Lose

    [873] BELMONT +109
    [803] CHICAGO +201
    50 / 265 -50 Lose

    [858] DREXEL +145
    [803] CHICAGO +201
    50 / 319 -50 Lose

    [873] BELMONT +109
    [858] DREXEL +145
    50 / 206 -50 Lose

    [545] KANSAS +209
    [648] JAMES MADISON +189
    50 / 397 -50 Lose

    [648] JAMES MADISON +189
    [694] RIDER +101
    50 / 240 -50 Lose

    [545] KANSAS +209
    [694] RIDER +101
    50 / 261 -50 Lose
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    [737] DUQUESNE +126
    [757] UTAH STATE +244
    50 / 339 -50 Lose

    [1] CALGARY +176
    [565] NIAGARA +155
    50 / 302 -50 Lose

    [565] NIAGARA +155
    [518] APPALACHIAN ST +120
    50 / 231 -50 Lose

    [511] WESTERN KENTUCKY +176
    [516] FLORIDA INTL +147
    50 / 291 291 Win

    [1] CALGARY +176
    [518] APPALACHIAN ST +120
    50 / 254 254 Win

    [502] CHICAGO +107
    [511] WESTERN KENTUCKY +176
    50 / 236 236 Win

    [502] CHICAGO +107
    [516] FLORIDA INTL +147
    50 / 206 206 Win

    [528] UL MONROE +176
    [563] IDAHO U +124
    50 / 259 -50 Lose

    [528] UL MONROE +176
    [15] MONTREAL +137
    50 / 277 -50 Lose

    [563] IDAHO U +124
    [15] MONTREAL +137
    50 / 215 -50 Lose

    [873] BELMONT +109
    [803] CHICAGO +201
    50 / 265 -50 Lose

    [858] DREXEL +145
    [803] CHICAGO +201
    50 / 319 -50 Lose

    [873] BELMONT +109
    [858] DREXEL +145
    50 / 206 -50 Lose

    [545] KANSAS +209
    [648] JAMES MADISON +189
    50 / 397 -50 Lose

    [648] JAMES MADISON +189
    [694] RIDER +101
    50 / 240 -50 Lose

    [545] KANSAS +209
    [694] RIDER +101
    50 / 261 -50 Lose
     
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    [602] WASHINGTON STATE +133
    [660] PEPPERDINE +116
    50 / 202 202 Win

    [602] WASHINGTON STATE +133
    [624] FLORIDA INTL +180
    50 / 276 276 Win

    [624] FLORIDA INTL +180
    [660] PEPPERDINE +116
    50 / 252 252 Win

    [821] EAST CAROLINA +136
    [51] EDMONTON +171
    50 / 270 -50 Lose

    [51] EDMONTON +171
    [57] CALGARY +136
    50 / 270 -50 Lose

    [821] EAST CAROLINA +136
    [57] CALGARY +136
    50 / 228 -50 Lose

    [57] CALGARY +136
    [815] MARYLAND -2½-110
    50 / 175 -50 Lose

    [811] TORONTO +235
    [57] CALGARY +136
    50 / 345 -50 Lose

    [811] TORONTO +235
    [815] MARYLAND -2½-110
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    [602] WASHINGTON STATE +133
    [660] PEPPERDINE +116
    50 / 202 202 Win

    [602] WASHINGTON STATE +133
    [624] FLORIDA INTL +180
    50 / 276 276 Win

    [624] FLORIDA INTL +180
    [660] PEPPERDINE +116
    50 / 252 252 Win

    [821] EAST CAROLINA +136
    [51] EDMONTON +171
    50 / 270 -50 Lose

    [51] EDMONTON +171
    [57] CALGARY +136
    50 / 270 -50 Lose

    [821] EAST CAROLINA +136
    [57] CALGARY +136
    50 / 228 -50 Lose

    [57] CALGARY +136
    [815] MARYLAND -2½-110
    50 / 175 -50 Lose

    [811] TORONTO +235
    [57] CALGARY +136
    50 / 345 -50 Lose

    [811] TORONTO +235
    [815] MARYLAND -2½-110
    50 / 270 -50 Lose
     
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    Posted: Mar. 12, 2015 - 12:27 PM ET #6

    Anything today you like
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    Sorry, I'm just getting in from work. Did you a favor though I think. 

    Round Robin 1
    Michigan
    UCF
    Vancouver 

    Round Robin 2
    UMass
    W.Virginia 
    S. Alabama

    Round Robin 3
    S. Alabama
    Utah State 
    Western Kentucky
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    Round Robin 1
    Michigan
    UCF
    Vancouver 

    Round Robin 2
    UMass
    W.Virginia 
    S. Alabama

    Round Robin 3
    S. Alabama
    Utah State 
    Western Kentucky
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 13, 2015 - 7:45 AM ET #8

    i pulled it up on sportsdatabase and if you go to this link, it will show you the results, season by season, of SU wins of dogs with lines 1.5 - 6.5. spoiler alert, they're all around or below 40%. hope this helps.

    NCAAB
    https://www.sportsdatabase.com/ncaabb/query?output=default&sdql=season+and+1.5%3C%3Dline%3C%3D6.5&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++

    NBA
    https://www.sportsdatabase.com/nba/query?output=default&sdql=season+and+1.5%3C%3Dline%3C%3D6.5&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++

    NFL
    https://www.sportsdatabase.com/nfl/query?output=default&sdql=season+and+1.5%3C%3Dline%3C%3D6.5&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++

    NCAAF
    https://www.sportsdatabase.com/ncaafb/query?output=default&sdql=season+and+1.5%3C%3Dline%3C%3D6.5&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++
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    i pulled it up on sportsdatabase and if you go to this link, it will show you the results, season by season, of SU wins of dogs with lines 1.5 - 6.5. spoiler alert, they're all around or below 40%. hope this helps.

    NCAAB
    https://www.sportsdatabase.com/ncaabb/query?output=default&sdql=season+and+1.5%3C%3Dline%3C%3D6.5&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++

    NBA
    https://www.sportsdatabase.com/nba/query?output=default&sdql=season+and+1.5%3C%3Dline%3C%3D6.5&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++

    NFL
    https://www.sportsdatabase.com/nfl/query?output=default&sdql=season+and+1.5%3C%3Dline%3C%3D6.5&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++

    NCAAF
    https://www.sportsdatabase.com/ncaafb/query?output=default&sdql=season+and+1.5%3C%3Dline%3C%3D6.5&submit=++S+D+Q+L+%21++
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