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    The underdog system must go on...

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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2010 - 6:44 PM ET #1

    This is in relation to Thinker.  I absolutely couldn't stand how that ended and I went back to check what the balance would have been if the unit was lowered.  So I tracked it from December 4th (when the balance hit 2231 (it should of went back in units the same way it went up) until December 15h (the abrupt end).  The differences would of made the system at $1432 instead of the $1264 the thread left at.  I would have just liked to see it continue.

    I have played my own underdogs (especially in MLB), but will use criteria I have set up to select the NHL, NBA, MLB, and perhaps the NFL and bowl games.  I'm not confident in NCAA basketball moneylines yet, so I won't have plays as of now.  I am not a computer system guy and I don't like relying on those for long term plays.  For example the Toronto Raptors were selected 5 times from Dec. 5th through the 14th and they were 1-4.  I just don't like to totally rely on a computer system.  Some of my picks maybe the same as Thinkers anyway as many of mine previously were. 

    As many people stated, the money management might make a difference.  However, it might not. Here is the layout for this:

    For every 20% bankroll increase, the unit amount will increase to the 2% per play level.

    For every 20% bankroll decrease, the unit amount will decrease to the 2% per play level. 

    The only goal I have with this bankroll is to see the project through.  If it lasts 12 months, maybe more funds will be allocated for this thread and will continue.  If it is down to the last $200, it will be played for $4 until the bankroll is empty. 

    I don't mean any disrespect to Thinker by this either, but people were left with a bad taste in their mouth and deserve to see the end result.  I scroll through many of these systems and strategies and people don't stick with their work (most always because it was failing.  The key word is failing (not a failure).  A few other individuals have just started projects also and they are good, lets see them out. 

     

    So December 20 plays:

    BANKROLL: 1000

    OVERALL RECORD: 0-0 (0%)

    INVESTED: $ ? pending

    RETURNED: $0
    PROFIT: 0
    ROI %: 0

    NHL:

    Toronto Maple Leafs +110        (20 to win 22)

    Carolina Canes +125               (20 to win 25)

    Calgary Flames +100              (20 to win 20)

    NBA:

    Atlanta Hawks +125                (20 to win 25)

    Milwaukee Bucks +145            (20 to win 29)

     

     

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    This is in relation to Thinker.  I absolutely couldn't stand how that ended and I went back to check what the balance would have been if the unit was lowered.  So I tracked it from December 4th (when the balance hit 2231 (it should of went back in units the same way it went up) until December 15h (the abrupt end).  The differences would of made the system at $1432 instead of the $1264 the thread left at.  I would have just liked to see it continue.

    I have played my own underdogs (especially in MLB), but will use criteria I have set up to select the NHL, NBA, MLB, and perhaps the NFL and bowl games.  I'm not confident in NCAA basketball moneylines yet, so I won't have plays as of now.  I am not a computer system guy and I don't like relying on those for long term plays.  For example the Toronto Raptors were selected 5 times from Dec. 5th through the 14th and they were 1-4.  I just don't like to totally rely on a computer system.  Some of my picks maybe the same as Thinkers anyway as many of mine previously were. 

    As many people stated, the money management might make a difference.  However, it might not. Here is the layout for this:

    For every 20% bankroll increase, the unit amount will increase to the 2% per play level.

    For every 20% bankroll decrease, the unit amount will decrease to the 2% per play level. 

    The only goal I have with this bankroll is to see the project through.  If it lasts 12 months, maybe more funds will be allocated for this thread and will continue.  If it is down to the last $200, it will be played for $4 until the bankroll is empty. 

    I don't mean any disrespect to Thinker by this either, but people were left with a bad taste in their mouth and deserve to see the end result.  I scroll through many of these systems and strategies and people don't stick with their work (most always because it was failing.  The key word is failing (not a failure).  A few other individuals have just started projects also and they are good, lets see them out. 

     

    So December 20 plays:

    BANKROLL: 1000

    OVERALL RECORD: 0-0 (0%)

    INVESTED: $ ? pending

    RETURNED: $0
    PROFIT: 0
    ROI %: 0

    NHL:

    Toronto Maple Leafs +110        (20 to win 22)

    Carolina Canes +125               (20 to win 25)

    Calgary Flames +100              (20 to win 20)

    NBA:

    Atlanta Hawks +125                (20 to win 25)

    Milwaukee Bucks +145            (20 to win 29)

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2010 - 6:48 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2010 - 11:29 PM ET #3

    I gave it a good, but it didn't work out, lol. 

    1-4 to start my covers posting (cover jinx go away) unless Milwauke quickly learns how to shoot.

    Be back tomorrow morning for round 2 of this journey to a broke bankroll or ???

     

    Add to insult, my Vikings look horrible on National Television once again.   

     

     

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    I gave it a good, but it didn't work out, lol. 

    1-4 to start my covers posting (cover jinx go away) unless Milwauke quickly learns how to shoot.

    Be back tomorrow morning for round 2 of this journey to a broke bankroll or ???

     

    Add to insult, my Vikings look horrible on National Television once again.   

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2010 - 1:11 PM ET #4

     

    BANKROLL: $945.00

    OVERALL RECORD: 1-4 (20%)

    INVESTED: $100.00

    RETURNED: $45.00
    PROFIT: -55.00
    ROI %: -55%

     

    A horrible start with only the Hawks winning.  The others weren't even close either.  The Hawks were my favorite play of the evening and saved face a little bit with a spread wager on them as well.  Moving on....

     

    NHL:

    Montreal Canadiens  +110            (20 to win 22)

    Anaheim Ducks +145       (20 to win 29)

    NBA:

    Dallas Mavericks +125   (20 to win 25)

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    BANKROLL: $945.00

    OVERALL RECORD: 1-4 (20%)

    INVESTED: $100.00

    RETURNED: $45.00
    PROFIT: -55.00
    ROI %: -55%

     

    A horrible start with only the Hawks winning.  The others weren't even close either.  The Hawks were my favorite play of the evening and saved face a little bit with a spread wager on them as well.  Moving on....

     

    NHL:

    Montreal Canadiens  +110            (20 to win 22)

    Anaheim Ducks +145       (20 to win 29)

    NBA:

    Dallas Mavericks +125   (20 to win 25)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2010 - 4:37 PM ET #5

    Adding:

     

    Golden State Warriors +130 (line came up a bit for me)   (20 to win 26)

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    Golden State Warriors +130 (line came up a bit for me)   (20 to win 26)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2010 - 8:27 PM ET #6

    this will be interesting... the revision that i made eliminated the anaheim ducks and golden st warriors tonight as plays... it did include the dallas mavericks as a play however and its on dallas instead of montreal..

    good luck, i was just noticing the picks tonight..

     

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    this will be interesting... the revision that i made eliminated the anaheim ducks and golden st warriors tonight as plays... it did include the dallas mavericks as a play however and its on dallas instead of montreal..

    good luck, i was just noticing the picks tonight..

     

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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 1:50 PM ET #7

    What are the lines you are taking??

    Looks like: +110 to +145
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    What are the lines you are taking??

    Looks like: +110 to +145
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 5:14 PM ET #8

    BANKROLL: $956.00

    INVESTED: $180.00

    RETURNED: $136

    PROFIT: -$44

    ROI%: -24.44%

    OVERALL RECORD: 3-6 (33%)

    NHL: 0-5 (looks like great fade material right now, last 3 weeks continue to be crap, im lowering to $15/unit until something positive happens and compensating for that with $25/unit for NBA)

     

    *All plays thru Matchbook. 

    NHL:

    Vancouver Canucks +136 (15 to win 20.40)

    Nashville Predators +130 (15 to win 19.50)

    NBA:

    Oklahoma City Thunder +101 (25 to win 25.25)

    Houston Rockets +101 (25 to win 25.25)


     

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    BANKROLL: $956.00

    INVESTED: $180.00

    RETURNED: $136

    PROFIT: -$44

    ROI%: -24.44%

    OVERALL RECORD: 3-6 (33%)

    NHL: 0-5 (looks like great fade material right now, last 3 weeks continue to be crap, im lowering to $15/unit until something positive happens and compensating for that with $25/unit for NBA)

     

    *All plays thru Matchbook. 

    NHL:

    Vancouver Canucks +136 (15 to win 20.40)

    Nashville Predators +130 (15 to win 19.50)

    NBA:

    Oklahoma City Thunder +101 (25 to win 25.25)

    Houston Rockets +101 (25 to win 25.25)


     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 5:17 PM ET #9

    Ya, quite often they will be. 

    Quote Originally Posted by SKiLLsSoLoN:

    What are the lines you are taking??

    Looks like: +110 to +145

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    Ya, quite often they will be. 

    Quote Originally Posted by SKiLLsSoLoN:

    What are the lines you are taking??

    Looks like: +110 to +145

     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2010 - 7:03 PM ET #10

    those would have been my plays tonight, under my old format.. i laid off OKC tonight, due to the B2B...

    i am at a loss by the performance of the NHL dogs since dec 2nd.  its a mystery to me..

    good luck tonight..

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    those would have been my plays tonight, under my old format.. i laid off OKC tonight, due to the B2B...

    i am at a loss by the performance of the NHL dogs since dec 2nd.  its a mystery to me..

    good luck tonight..

    Falcon

     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2010 - 11:55 AM ET #11

    BANKROLL: $926.25 INVESTED: $260.00 RETURNED: $186.25

    PROFIT: -$73.75 ROI%: -28.37% OVERALL RECORD: 4-9(31%)

    NHL: 0-7 (Can't make this crap up right now)

    NBA: 4-2

    Dec. 23

    NHL:

    Pittsburgh Penguins +114 (15 to win 17.10)

    Phoenix Coyotes +189 (15 to win 28.35)

    NBA:

    San Antonio Spurs +120 (25 to win 30)

    Sacramento Kings +120 (25 to win 30)

    ***This will resume Sunday.  Won't be playing X-mas day NBA. 

    Have a great holiday everyone!  I won on the Boise Under, the Sixers and the Nuggets.  The minute I start posting my complete picks, they will probably go the way of the NHL.  Mind boggling stuff with the covers jinx sometimes.  As long as I profit from the whole arsenol, I have no problem serving up NHL fades.

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    BANKROLL: $926.25 INVESTED: $260.00 RETURNED: $186.25

    PROFIT: -$73.75 ROI%: -28.37% OVERALL RECORD: 4-9(31%)

    NHL: 0-7 (Can't make this crap up right now)

    NBA: 4-2

    Dec. 23

    NHL:

    Pittsburgh Penguins +114 (15 to win 17.10)

    Phoenix Coyotes +189 (15 to win 28.35)

    NBA:

    San Antonio Spurs +120 (25 to win 30)

    Sacramento Kings +120 (25 to win 30)

    ***This will resume Sunday.  Won't be playing X-mas day NBA. 

    Have a great holiday everyone!  I won on the Boise Under, the Sixers and the Nuggets.  The minute I start posting my complete picks, they will probably go the way of the NHL.  Mind boggling stuff with the covers jinx sometimes.  As long as I profit from the whole arsenol, I have no problem serving up NHL fades.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2010 - 1:08 PM ET #12

    BANKROLL: $878.35 INVESTED: $340.00 RETURNED: $218.35

    PROFIT: -$121.65 ROI%: -34.78% OVERALL RECORD: 5-12(29%)

    NHL: 1-8            NBA: 5-4

    Dec. 26-NHL:

    Tampa Lightning +120 (15 to win 18)

    Carolina Canes +123 (15 to win 18.75)

    Minnesota Wild +125 (15 to win 18.75

     

    Dec. 26-NBA:

    Phoenix Suns +101 (25 to win 25.25)

    Atlanta Hawks +169 (25 to win 42.25)

    Philadelphia Sixers +157 (25 to win 39.25)

     

     

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    BANKROLL: $878.35 INVESTED: $340.00 RETURNED: $218.35

    PROFIT: -$121.65 ROI%: -34.78% OVERALL RECORD: 5-12(29%)

    NHL: 1-8            NBA: 5-4

    Dec. 26-NHL:

    Tampa Lightning +120 (15 to win 18)

    Carolina Canes +123 (15 to win 18.75)

    Minnesota Wild +125 (15 to win 18.75

     

    Dec. 26-NBA:

    Phoenix Suns +101 (25 to win 25.25)

    Atlanta Hawks +169 (25 to win 42.25)

    Philadelphia Sixers +157 (25 to win 39.25)

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2010 - 2:39 PM ET #13

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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2010 - 2:46 PM ET #14

    BANKROLL: $855.60 INVESTED: $460.00 RETURNED: $315.60

    PROFIT: -$144.40 ROI%: -31.39% OVERALL RECORD: 7-16(30%)

    NHL: 2-10            NBA: 5-6 (had record wrong yesterday for this)

    Dec. 27-NHL:

    Florida Panthers +124 (20 to win 24.80)

    Dec. 27-NBA:

    Atlanta Hawks +125 (20 to win 25)

     

    Good luck fading. 

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    BANKROLL: $855.60 INVESTED: $460.00 RETURNED: $315.60

    PROFIT: -$144.40 ROI%: -31.39% OVERALL RECORD: 7-16(30%)

    NHL: 2-10            NBA: 5-6 (had record wrong yesterday for this)

    Dec. 27-NHL:

    Florida Panthers +124 (20 to win 24.80)

    Dec. 27-NBA:

    Atlanta Hawks +125 (20 to win 25)

     

    Good luck fading. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 3:10 PM ET #15

    BANKROLL: $860.60 INVESTED: $500.00 RETURNED: $360.60

    PROFIT: -$139.40 ROI%: -27.88% OVERALL RECORD: 8-17(32%)

    NHL: 2-11              NBA 6-6

    Dec. 28-NHL:

    St. Louis Blues +102 (20 to win 20.40)

    Philadelphia Flyers +136 (20 to win 27.20)

    Anaheim Ducks +132 (20 to win 26.40)

    Dallas Stars +123 (20 to win 24.60)

     

    Dec. 28-NBA:

    New York Knicks +390 (20 to win 78)

    L.A. Lakers +120 (20 to win 28)

    Portland Blazers +350 (20 to win 70)

     

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    BANKROLL: $860.60 INVESTED: $500.00 RETURNED: $360.60

    PROFIT: -$139.40 ROI%: -27.88% OVERALL RECORD: 8-17(32%)

    NHL: 2-11              NBA 6-6

    Dec. 28-NHL:

    St. Louis Blues +102 (20 to win 20.40)

    Philadelphia Flyers +136 (20 to win 27.20)

    Anaheim Ducks +132 (20 to win 26.40)

    Dallas Stars +123 (20 to win 24.60)

     

    Dec. 28-NBA:

    New York Knicks +390 (20 to win 78)

    L.A. Lakers +120 (20 to win 28)

    Portland Blazers +350 (20 to win 70)

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2010 - 6:20 PM ET #16

    Adding:

    Indiana Pacers +212 (20 to win 42.40)

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    Adding:

    Indiana Pacers +212 (20 to win 42.40)

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2010 - 6:52 PM ET #17

    BANKROLL: $832.00 INVESTED: $660.00 RETURNED: $432.00

    PROFIT: -$168 ROI%: -34.54% OVERALL RECORD: 11-22(33%)

     

    December, 29, 2010:

    NHL:

    Red Wings +108 (20 to win 21.60)

    NBA:

    Hornets +154 (20 to win 30.80)

    NCAAF:

    Arizona Wildcats +176 (20 to win 35.20)

     

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    BANKROLL: $832.00 INVESTED: $660.00 RETURNED: $432.00

    PROFIT: -$168 ROI%: -34.54% OVERALL RECORD: 11-22(33%)

     

    December, 29, 2010:

    NHL:

    Red Wings +108 (20 to win 21.60)

    NBA:

    Hornets +154 (20 to win 30.80)

    NCAAF:

    Arizona Wildcats +176 (20 to win 35.20)

     

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