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    System on betting all NHL games to tie in regulation.

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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 2:41 AM ET #1

    I did some number crunching.  There have been 47 OT games out of 177 so far this year.  If had you bet all of them, it would bring a small profit.  Each night if you bet all games to tie in regulation, you would need at least 25% of the games to tie to make a profit, although small.  So far this year in total it has hit at just over 26% at 26.55.

    Example:  12 game schedule, 3 games tie.

    3 games = 330+340+360 = 1030 = 10.3 units - 9 units (lost on games that did not tie) = 1.3 unit profit.

    So far Saturday nights have been pretty good (excluding the opener in Europe) (using +340 as a conservative average payout)

    10/11 = 13 games, with 4 ties. 4 x 340 = (13.60 - 9) = 4.60 unit profit

    10/18 = 13 games, with 6 ties. 6 x 340 =  (20.4 - 7) = 13.4 unit profit (wow)

    10/25 = 15 games, with 5 ties. 5 x 340 = (17 - 10) = 7 unit profit

    11/1 = 12 games, with 3 ties.  3 x 340 = (10.2 - 9) = 1.2 unit profit (OK not so great here but a profit nonetheless)

    Betting $100 at about a +340 (conservative) or so average, the system would be up $2980 (or 29.8 units) after a month and a bit so far. I'm not sure if its worth it but it is something to look at.  Well I guess being up $2980 is worth it, but we'll see if this stands the test of time.  I'll keep track of it and hopefully it works out.  One would expect as the the season goes on and positioning for playoffs becomes more prevalent, the games would get tighter. 

    Some days have been great with 3 ties out of 5 but some have been brutal with the worst being 1 OT in 12 games but this is obviously a long term betting system.  I wouldn't recommend betting on this yet. I am going to wait about a week or so before I jump in just to make sure.  Maybe betting Saturday nights is the key, I don't know.  Either way we'll see what transpires.

    Please feel free to contribute on this.  I don't sleep much so let me know if I made any errors. Thanks guys.
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    I did some number crunching.  There have been 47 OT games out of 177 so far this year.  If had you bet all of them, it would bring a small profit.  Each night if you bet all games to tie in regulation, you would need at least 25% of the games to tie to make a profit, although small.  So far this year in total it has hit at just over 26% at 26.55.

    Example:  12 game schedule, 3 games tie.

    3 games = 330+340+360 = 1030 = 10.3 units - 9 units (lost on games that did not tie) = 1.3 unit profit.

    So far Saturday nights have been pretty good (excluding the opener in Europe) (using +340 as a conservative average payout)

    10/11 = 13 games, with 4 ties. 4 x 340 = (13.60 - 9) = 4.60 unit profit

    10/18 = 13 games, with 6 ties. 6 x 340 =  (20.4 - 7) = 13.4 unit profit (wow)

    10/25 = 15 games, with 5 ties. 5 x 340 = (17 - 10) = 7 unit profit

    11/1 = 12 games, with 3 ties.  3 x 340 = (10.2 - 9) = 1.2 unit profit (OK not so great here but a profit nonetheless)

    Betting $100 at about a +340 (conservative) or so average, the system would be up $2980 (or 29.8 units) after a month and a bit so far. I'm not sure if its worth it but it is something to look at.  Well I guess being up $2980 is worth it, but we'll see if this stands the test of time.  I'll keep track of it and hopefully it works out.  One would expect as the the season goes on and positioning for playoffs becomes more prevalent, the games would get tighter. 

    Some days have been great with 3 ties out of 5 but some have been brutal with the worst being 1 OT in 12 games but this is obviously a long term betting system.  I wouldn't recommend betting on this yet. I am going to wait about a week or so before I jump in just to make sure.  Maybe betting Saturday nights is the key, I don't know.  Either way we'll see what transpires.

    Please feel free to contribute on this.  I don't sleep much so let me know if I made any errors. Thanks guys.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 3:07 AM ET #2

    Just an update.  I did include last night's games which came out to 3 ties in 7 games played.  That's about a 6 unit profit.  Not bad!
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    Just an update.  I did include last night's games which came out to 3 ties in 7 games played.  That's about a 6 unit profit.  Not bad!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 3:19 AM ET #3

    Nice profit....but I think i remember reading somewhere that 20% of games go into OT
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    Nice profit....but I think i remember reading somewhere that 20% of games go into OT
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 3:47 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by tbRays:

    Nice profit....but I think i remember reading somewhere that 20% of games go into OT


    Looks like this system is in for a downswing then.  Doh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbRays:

    Nice profit....but I think i remember reading somewhere that 20% of games go into OT


    Looks like this system is in for a downswing then.  Doh well.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 3:50 AM ET #5

    Don't give up yet...
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    Don't give up yet...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 4:29 AM ET #6

    You were right TB.  Each of the last two years the percentage of OT games has hovered around 22-23% which is not good.

    Maybe we can tweak the system.  Such as increasing the bets after a loss...or maybe wait for a day with no ties, then chase until there's a profit.  We'll see how this season goes.
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    You were right TB.  Each of the last two years the percentage of OT games has hovered around 22-23% which is not good.

    Maybe we can tweak the system.  Such as increasing the bets after a loss...or maybe wait for a day with no ties, then chase until there's a profit.  We'll see how this season goes.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 4:37 AM ET #7

    This year could be different, there are some new rules if i recall.

    How would a chase system work? Some days there are 3 games and some days there are 7, each day is different.
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    This year could be different, there are some new rules if i recall.

    How would a chase system work? Some days there are 3 games and some days there are 7, each day is different.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 4:40 AM ET #8

    Meaning start betting and chasing after a day with no ties.  The most days without ties so far is 2 and that was from the last game in Europe to the start in North America on the 9th of October.
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    Meaning start betting and chasing after a day with no ties.  The most days without ties so far is 2 and that was from the last game in Europe to the start in North America on the 9th of October.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 5:03 AM ET #9

    Lets say there is a day with 2 games, and all of them lose...the next day there is 6 games. Which games do you double on?
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    Lets say there is a day with 2 games, and all of them lose...the next day there is 6 games. Which games do you double on?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 11:11 AM ET #10

    I would say all of them.  As for now it seems at the end of each week there has been a profit as OT games have become an inevitability throughout the first month.
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    I would say all of them.  As for now it seems at the end of each week there has been a profit as OT games have become an inevitability throughout the first month.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 12:59 PM ET #11

    Let's go:

    YTD 47-130 +29.8 units (conservative estimation)

    Today:

    TB-NJ +300
    EDM-CLB +340
    STL-ANH +405

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    Let's go:

    YTD 47-130 +29.8 units (conservative estimation)

    Today:

    TB-NJ +300
    EDM-CLB +340
    STL-ANH +405

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 1:17 PM ET #12

    those are good odds. what book are you using? my local has STL/ANH at +335
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    those are good odds. what book are you using? my local has STL/ANH at +335
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 2:29 PM ET #13

    Got them at 5dimes. Holy crap that's quite the disparity from +405 to +335.
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    Got them at 5dimes. Holy crap that's quite the disparity from +405 to +335.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 2:50 PM ET #14

    Yea it sucks, I need to somehow get some money in 5dimes. I have an account but never funded it. The only good about my book is I don't have to post up.
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    Yea it sucks, I need to somehow get some money in 5dimes. I have an account but never funded it. The only good about my book is I don't have to post up.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 10:15 PM ET #15

    I'm rolling which ya'll let's go!!!
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    I'm rolling which ya'll let's go!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2008 - 10:42 PM ET #16

    Updated:

    YTD 48-131 +31.8 units (conservative estimation)

    Todnight:

    TB-NJ +300
    EDM-CLB +340 Missed it by just under 2 mins!
    STL-ANH +405 Pending...

    Just needed 1 out of all 3 to profit tonight and we hit TB-NJ.  Let's keep it going!
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    Updated:

    YTD 48-131 +31.8 units (conservative estimation)

    Todnight:

    TB-NJ +300
    EDM-CLB +340 Missed it by just under 2 mins!
    STL-ANH +405 Pending...

    Just needed 1 out of all 3 to profit tonight and we hit TB-NJ.  Let's keep it going!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 12:34 AM ET #17

    Updated:

    YTD 48-132 +30.8 units (conservative estimation)

    Tonight:

    TB-NJ +300
    EDM-CLB +340 Missed it by just under 2 mins!
    STL-ANH +405

    +100 on the night.  Profit is profit!
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    Updated:

    YTD 48-132 +30.8 units (conservative estimation)

    Tonight:

    TB-NJ +300
    EDM-CLB +340 Missed it by just under 2 mins!
    STL-ANH +405

    +100 on the night.  Profit is profit!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 12:36 AM ET #18

    11 games tomorrow...just need 3 to profit.  We'll see what happens.
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    11 games tomorrow...just need 3 to profit.  We'll see what happens.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 12:56 PM ET #19

    I don't recommend to bet all draws straight. Odds are adjusted according to % of draws. So if you bet all draws, it won't make money.

    I developped a program for picking draws and you all know the record. Feel free to contact me about system. you can contact me by prohandicapperservice@windowslive.com

    Picks for tonight: (Major plays)
    WAS-CAR DRAW
    FLA-LA DRAW

    Major plays are +11.5 units since 1 November (+1.150$ if you're bettng 100$ each game) also I like to test some minor plays as well. Lets see their performance as well.

    Minor plays are Atl-Nyi, Col-Min, Nyr-Tb, Pit-Edm, Clg-Nas, Bos-Tor.

    Beating books is possible. All you need is a good system.

    GL everyone!

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    I don't recommend to bet all draws straight. Odds are adjusted according to % of draws. So if you bet all draws, it won't make money.

    I developped a program for picking draws and you all know the record. Feel free to contact me about system. you can contact me by prohandicapperservice@windowslive.com

    Picks for tonight: (Major plays)
    WAS-CAR DRAW
    FLA-LA DRAW

    Major plays are +11.5 units since 1 November (+1.150$ if you're bettng 100$ each game) also I like to test some minor plays as well. Lets see their performance as well.

    Minor plays are Atl-Nyi, Col-Min, Nyr-Tb, Pit-Edm, Clg-Nas, Bos-Tor.

    Beating books is possible. All you need is a good system.

    GL everyone!

    Sawyer Pro Handicapper
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 1:18 PM ET #20

    Games tonight:

    EDM-PIT  +343
    NYI-ATL  +324
    TOR-BOS  +346
    TB-NYR  +367
    CAR-WAS  +325
    PHI-OTT  +330
    MIN-COL +310
    NAS-CGY +355
    PHO-VAN +335
    STL-SJ +395
    FLA-LAK +320

    Just need 3 to profit.  We'll see what happens.
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    Games tonight:

    EDM-PIT  +343
    NYI-ATL  +324
    TOR-BOS  +346
    TB-NYR  +367
    CAR-WAS  +325
    PHI-OTT  +330
    MIN-COL +310
    NAS-CGY +355
    PHO-VAN +335
    STL-SJ +395
    FLA-LAK +320

    Just need 3 to profit.  We'll see what happens.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 1:32 PM ET #21

    The guys that work at 5dimes are in here reading these covers posts.  Guarantee that its only a matter of time before they adjust these odds down to where you can't make money on this system.  It always happens.  Books find out about these things and make adjustments.  Just look at what happened to the football correlation parlays.  Can't find a book out there that lets you bet them anymore.
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    The guys that work at 5dimes are in here reading these covers posts.  Guarantee that its only a matter of time before they adjust these odds down to where you can't make money on this system.  It always happens.  Books find out about these things and make adjustments.  Just look at what happened to the football correlation parlays.  Can't find a book out there that lets you bet them anymore.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 2:07 PM ET #22

    Guys maybe we better shut down this draw thing or bookmakers will adjust their odds. Lets keep it confidential.
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 2:29 PM ET #23

    I decided to keep my plays confidential. Feel free to contact me at prohandicapperservice@windowslive.com
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 2:37 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by SawyerThePunter:

    I decided to keep my plays confidential. Feel free to contact me at prohandicapperservice@windowslive.com

     

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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 2:37 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by MrUnderOver:

    The guys that work at 5dimes are in here reading these covers posts.  Guarantee that its only a matter of time before they adjust these odds down to where you can't make money on this system.  It always happens.  Books find out about these things and make adjustments.  Just look at what happened to the football correlation parlays.  Can't find a book out there that lets you bet them anymore.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrUnderOver:

    The guys that work at 5dimes are in here reading these covers posts.  Guarantee that its only a matter of time before they adjust these odds down to where you can't make money on this system.  It always happens.  Books find out about these things and make adjustments.  Just look at what happened to the football correlation parlays.  Can't find a book out there that lets you bet them anymore.

     

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