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    "C" chase

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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 2:00 PM ET #1

    A couple of weeks ago I thought I saw someone who had the idea that seemed to make some sense.  The concept was to do a 3 game cahse on any systems C play.  It did not matter which forum or which sport or which poster, if there was a "C" play you'd play it as an "A" play and if it won you won, if it lost you'd wait for the next "C" play and play it as a "B" play and if that lost you'd play the next "C" play as a "C" play.  In other words, all your playing is "C" plays from various systems and the theory as I understood it, was that these tend win a much higher %.  I have not seen that thread so If anyone sees any "C" plays from any system, feel free to post them here and I will try to keep track if there is any interest.
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    A couple of weeks ago I thought I saw someone who had the idea that seemed to make some sense.  The concept was to do a 3 game cahse on any systems C play.  It did not matter which forum or which sport or which poster, if there was a "C" play you'd play it as an "A" play and if it won you won, if it lost you'd wait for the next "C" play and play it as a "B" play and if that lost you'd play the next "C" play as a "C" play.  In other words, all your playing is "C" plays from various systems and the theory as I understood it, was that these tend win a much higher %.  I have not seen that thread so If anyone sees any "C" plays from any system, feel free to post them here and I will try to keep track if there is any interest.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 3:40 PM ET #2

    phoenix suns on saturday
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    this is what I am doing with NHL and soccer. You will assure yourself that you will find that team who will go 6 or 7 games deep - if it happens during a season - but I think you will close out chases if you're selective on your initial bets.

    I labby it so those teams that go fairly deep won't kill me.

    I think it will be much stronger than starting every single series. I've been fairly successful the past few years in betting money lines on the strongest and weakest teams, and teams with lopsided O/U records all season long. One chase after another.  Not any team, I'm selective.

    I think starting my chases later, as you suggest, will be even more profitable. So if Washington Caps lose 2 or 3 in a row, I'll chase them down, or Atlanta Thrashers hits 3 unders in a row, I'll start the chase there - I won't continually bet Wash to win, or Atlanta to hit overs like I had in the past. Maybe it's a wash labby'ing it, I dunno. I used a modified Martingale previously and did well the last 2 seasons betting everything - I think this is going to be better.

    I'll take a soccer team who is, let's say 14-5 O/U, and has gone on a 3 game under streak, and I'll start betting the overs. All soccer O/U are 2.5. I review literally the entire world each Monday morning. We'll see how it goes. I've been burned by straight chases in soccer, holding off for 3 consecutive 'losses' might do the trick. In 2 years of betting soccer, 5 has been the max streak, being selective of the teams I bet on. I guess I'll see how it goes.


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    this is what I am doing with NHL and soccer. You will assure yourself that you will find that team who will go 6 or 7 games deep - if it happens during a season - but I think you will close out chases if you're selective on your initial bets.

    I labby it so those teams that go fairly deep won't kill me.

    I think it will be much stronger than starting every single series. I've been fairly successful the past few years in betting money lines on the strongest and weakest teams, and teams with lopsided O/U records all season long. One chase after another.  Not any team, I'm selective.

    I think starting my chases later, as you suggest, will be even more profitable. So if Washington Caps lose 2 or 3 in a row, I'll chase them down, or Atlanta Thrashers hits 3 unders in a row, I'll start the chase there - I won't continually bet Wash to win, or Atlanta to hit overs like I had in the past. Maybe it's a wash labby'ing it, I dunno. I used a modified Martingale previously and did well the last 2 seasons betting everything - I think this is going to be better.

    I'll take a soccer team who is, let's say 14-5 O/U, and has gone on a 3 game under streak, and I'll start betting the overs. All soccer O/U are 2.5. I review literally the entire world each Monday morning. We'll see how it goes. I've been burned by straight chases in soccer, holding off for 3 consecutive 'losses' might do the trick. In 2 years of betting soccer, 5 has been the max streak, being selective of the teams I bet on. I guess I'll see how it goes.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 4:23 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger Pat:

    phoenix suns on saturday

    Just so it's clear.  Phoenix is a "C" play for someone's system, right?  If so, and there are none for tonight, Phoenix becomes an "A" play for our "C" play chase.

    Phoenix (Saturday)    A play  1 unit 

    YTD:  0-0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger Pat:

    phoenix suns on saturday

    Just so it's clear.  Phoenix is a "C" play for someone's system, right?  If so, and there are none for tonight, Phoenix becomes an "A" play for our "C" play chase.

    Phoenix (Saturday)    A play  1 unit 

    YTD:  0-0

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 4:40 PM ET #5

    Anti John Morrison NBA:

    2 C bets: Bet Minnesota +9.8 and NO Hornets -9

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    Anti John Morrison NBA:

    2 C bets: Bet Minnesota +9.8 and NO Hornets -9

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 4:42 PM ET #6

    CORRECTION: It's Golden state -3.5 and Minn +9.5. My bad.

    Both games are tonight.

     

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    CORRECTION: It's Golden state -3.5 and Minn +9.5. My bad.

    Both games are tonight.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2010 - 7:46 PM ET #7

    Tonight we have

    Minnesota A play 1 unit

    Golden State A play  1 unit

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    Tonight we have

    Minnesota A play 1 unit

    Golden State A play  1 unit

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 10:23 AM ET #8

    Both the Anti JM C plays lose.  (our A plays)

    Today so far we have:

    Phoenix as a B Play

    If anyone has a C play they see from another system please post it here.

    C Play Chase YTD: 0-0  2 seies pending

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    Both the Anti JM C plays lose.  (our A plays)

    Today so far we have:

    Phoenix as a B Play

    If anyone has a C play they see from another system please post it here.

    C Play Chase YTD: 0-0  2 seies pending

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 2:28 PM ET #9

    NBA

     

    Minnesota (B)

     

    Golden State (B)

     

    Phoenix (A)

     

    NCAA FOOTBALL

     

    Florida st  (A)       

     

     

    NHL

     

    New Jersey Devils [A]       

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    NBA

     

    Minnesota (B)

     

    Golden State (B)

     

    Phoenix (A)

     

    NCAA FOOTBALL

     

    Florida st  (A)       

     

     

    NHL

     

    New Jersey Devils [A]       

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2010 - 11:46 PM ET #10

    [Quote: Originally Posted by MOORE1975]

    NBA

     

    Minnesota (B)

     

    Golden State (B)

     

    Phoenix (B)   LOSER

     

    NCAA FOOTBALL

     

    Florida st -4 (A)        WINNER

     

     

    NHL

     

    New Jersey Devils  (PL)[A]        WINNER

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by MOORE1975]

    NBA

     

    Minnesota (B)

     

    Golden State (B)

     

    Phoenix (B)   LOSER

     

    NCAA FOOTBALL

     

    Florida st -4 (A)        WINNER

     

     

    NHL

     

    New Jersey Devils  (PL)[A]        WINNER

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2010 - 2:46 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by doubledime:

    Both the Anti JM C plays lose.  (our A plays)

    Today so far we have:

    Phoenix as a B Play

    If anyone has a C play they see from another system please post it here.

    C Play Chase YTD: 0-0  2 seies pending

    Remember when playing ANTIJM that the team you bet on changes every time. If Minn and GS lost the A bet (they were the home team) then the next bets B bets are on the the next home team that plays the against who ever beat us on the A bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledime:

    Both the Anti JM C plays lose.  (our A plays)

    Today so far we have:

    Phoenix as a B Play

    If anyone has a C play they see from another system please post it here.

    C Play Chase YTD: 0-0  2 seies pending

    Remember when playing ANTIJM that the team you bet on changes every time. If Minn and GS lost the A bet (they were the home team) then the next bets B bets are on the the next home team that plays the against who ever beat us on the A bet.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2010 - 6:16 PM ET #12

    laying heavy juice with chase system is money in the toilet.

    just blindly tail mrmartingales picks with his system following the rules. he uses lot of games with +180 or higher odds that are jackpot.

    Another great high profit weeks from these picks. 

    Bet #2819: SCR: Italian Serie A: Parma - Sampdoria
    Pick: Parma win Odd: +140
    Risked 1 unit. Won 1.40 units

    Bet #2820: NHL: Montreal - Boston
    Pick: With Ot: Montreal win Odd: +140
    Risked 1 unit. Won 1.40 units

    Bet #2821: SCR: German Bundesliga 1: Hamburger - Borussia Dortmund
    Pick: Hamburg win Odd: +388
    Risked 1 unit. Lost 1 unit

    Bet #2822: NCAAB: Northern Arizona - Iowa St
    Pick: Northern Iowa win Odd: +360
    Risked 2.1 units. Lost 2.1 units

    Bet #2823: SCR: German Bundesliga 1: Kaiserlaureten - Stuttgart
    Pick: Draw Odd: +255
    Risked 4.41 units. Won 11.25 units

    Bet #2824: SCR: English Premier: Liverpool - Stoke City
    Pick: Draw Odd: +240
    Risked 1 unit. Lost 1 unit.

    Bet #2825: NCAAF: Virginia - Maryland
    Pick: Virginia win Odd: +110
    Risked 2.1 units. Lost 2.1 units.

    Bet #2826: NCAAF: Stanford - Arizona St
    Pick: Arizona St win Odd: +175
    Risked 4.41 units. Lost 4.41 units.

    Bet #2827: SCR: Italian Serie A: Genoa - Cagliari
    Pick: Draw Odd: +220
    Risked 9.26 units. Lost 9.26 units

    Bet #2828: SCR: Spanish LA Liga: Racing Santandar - Espanyol
    Pick: Draw Odd: +220
    Risked 19.45 units. Won 42.79 units

    Bet #2829: NFL: Kansas City - Denver
    Pick: Denver win Odd: +101
    Risked 1 unit. Won. 1.01 units

    Bet #2830: NHL: Philadelphia - Montreal
    Pick: Montreal -1.5 Odd: +230
    Risked 1 unit. Won 2.3 units.

    Bet #2831: NHL: Philadelphia - Tampa Bay
    Pick: Philadelphia -1.5 Odd: +138
    Risked 1 unit. Lost 1 unit.

    Bet #2832: NBA: Chicago - Dallas
    Pick: Chicago win Odd: +160
    Risked 2.1 units. Won 3.36 units.

    Bet #2833: SCR: German Bundelsiga 1: Hannover - Hamburger
    Pick: Draw Odd: +250
    Risked 1 unit. Lost 1 unit.

    Bet #2834: NCAAB: Pittsburgh - South Florida
    Pick: South Florida win Odd: +125
    Risked 2.1 unit. Lost 2.1 units

    Bet #2835: NCAAB: Iowa - Ohio St
    Pick: Iowa win Odd: +131
    Risked 4.41 units. Lost 4.41 units

    Bet #2836: NCAAB: Oklahoma - Baylor
    Pick: Baylor win Odd: +240
    Risked 9.26 units. Lost 9 .26 units

    Bet #2837: SCR: Italian Serie A: Genoa - Juventus
    Pick: Draw Odd: +218
    Risked 19.45 units. Lost 19.45 units

    Bet #2838: SCR: Italian Serie A: Parma - Lazio
    Pick: Draw Odd: +205
    Risked 40.84 units. Won 83.72 units

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    laying heavy juice with chase system is money in the toilet.

    just blindly tail mrmartingales picks with his system following the rules. he uses lot of games with +180 or higher odds that are jackpot.

    Another great high profit weeks from these picks. 

    Bet #2819: SCR: Italian Serie A: Parma - Sampdoria
    Pick: Parma win Odd: +140
    Risked 1 unit. Won 1.40 units

    Bet #2820: NHL: Montreal - Boston
    Pick: With Ot: Montreal win Odd: +140
    Risked 1 unit. Won 1.40 units

    Bet #2821: SCR: German Bundesliga 1: Hamburger - Borussia Dortmund
    Pick: Hamburg win Odd: +388
    Risked 1 unit. Lost 1 unit

    Bet #2822: NCAAB: Northern Arizona - Iowa St
    Pick: Northern Iowa win Odd: +360
    Risked 2.1 units. Lost 2.1 units

    Bet #2823: SCR: German Bundesliga 1: Kaiserlaureten - Stuttgart
    Pick: Draw Odd: +255
    Risked 4.41 units. Won 11.25 units

    Bet #2824: SCR: English Premier: Liverpool - Stoke City
    Pick: Draw Odd: +240
    Risked 1 unit. Lost 1 unit.

    Bet #2825: NCAAF: Virginia - Maryland
    Pick: Virginia win Odd: +110
    Risked 2.1 units. Lost 2.1 units.

    Bet #2826: NCAAF: Stanford - Arizona St
    Pick: Arizona St win Odd: +175
    Risked 4.41 units. Lost 4.41 units.

    Bet #2827: SCR: Italian Serie A: Genoa - Cagliari
    Pick: Draw Odd: +220
    Risked 9.26 units. Lost 9.26 units

    Bet #2828: SCR: Spanish LA Liga: Racing Santandar - Espanyol
    Pick: Draw Odd: +220
    Risked 19.45 units. Won 42.79 units

    Bet #2829: NFL: Kansas City - Denver
    Pick: Denver win Odd: +101
    Risked 1 unit. Won. 1.01 units

    Bet #2830: NHL: Philadelphia - Montreal
    Pick: Montreal -1.5 Odd: +230
    Risked 1 unit. Won 2.3 units.

    Bet #2831: NHL: Philadelphia - Tampa Bay
    Pick: Philadelphia -1.5 Odd: +138
    Risked 1 unit. Lost 1 unit.

    Bet #2832: NBA: Chicago - Dallas
    Pick: Chicago win Odd: +160
    Risked 2.1 units. Won 3.36 units.

    Bet #2833: SCR: German Bundelsiga 1: Hannover - Hamburger
    Pick: Draw Odd: +250
    Risked 1 unit. Lost 1 unit.

    Bet #2834: NCAAB: Pittsburgh - South Florida
    Pick: South Florida win Odd: +125
    Risked 2.1 unit. Lost 2.1 units

    Bet #2835: NCAAB: Iowa - Ohio St
    Pick: Iowa win Odd: +131
    Risked 4.41 units. Lost 4.41 units

    Bet #2836: NCAAB: Oklahoma - Baylor
    Pick: Baylor win Odd: +240
    Risked 9.26 units. Lost 9 .26 units

    Bet #2837: SCR: Italian Serie A: Genoa - Juventus
    Pick: Draw Odd: +218
    Risked 19.45 units. Lost 19.45 units

    Bet #2838: SCR: Italian Serie A: Parma - Lazio
    Pick: Draw Odd: +205
    Risked 40.84 units. Won 83.72 units

     
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    That bet 2838 was a 6th bet with +205 odds. In addition to win back all the previous losses, it brought back about 50 more units. If he had went perfect in all the above picks the profit would have been still less than of what it is now.

    This system is good because of the odds and because of the fact that you dont chase after 6 games. It is controlled martingale. If you lose 6 in a row, you start over from the beginning. You will end up hitting few 4th, 5th and 6th games before losing 6 in a row, so with those big odds the rate of you doubling the bankroll is much higher than losing 6 in a row. In that stretch of picks in only two weeks he doubled the bankroll.

    'The trick is to keep the unit size same through out. some people add the winnings to their bankroll and they will keep increasing the unit size with the hope of more profit, this wont work because when you lose 6 in a row you will end up losing more since you kept increasing the unit size.

    if you keep the unit size fixed this will be profitable even if you average one 6 game losing streak each month--assuming that you use the picks from mrmartingale  because he uses lot of big odd games and hits them good.
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    That bet 2838 was a 6th bet with +205 odds. In addition to win back all the previous losses, it brought back about 50 more units. If he had went perfect in all the above picks the profit would have been still less than of what it is now.

    This system is good because of the odds and because of the fact that you dont chase after 6 games. It is controlled martingale. If you lose 6 in a row, you start over from the beginning. You will end up hitting few 4th, 5th and 6th games before losing 6 in a row, so with those big odds the rate of you doubling the bankroll is much higher than losing 6 in a row. In that stretch of picks in only two weeks he doubled the bankroll.

    'The trick is to keep the unit size same through out. some people add the winnings to their bankroll and they will keep increasing the unit size with the hope of more profit, this wont work because when you lose 6 in a row you will end up losing more since you kept increasing the unit size.

    if you keep the unit size fixed this will be profitable even if you average one 6 game losing streak each month--assuming that you use the picks from mrmartingale  because he uses lot of big odd games and hits them good.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2010 - 7:23 PM ET #14

    were do u go to get his picks, thanks

     

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    were do u go to get his picks, thanks

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GamblrzAnonyms:

    were do u go to get his picks, thanks

     


    i made a full year subscription to mrmartingale (series 1 picks) couple of months ago when he ran a promotion where you could get the full year at the cost of 6 months.
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    were do u go to get his picks, thanks

     


    i made a full year subscription to mrmartingale (series 1 picks) couple of months ago when he ran a promotion where you could get the full year at the cost of 6 months.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 2:41 AM ET #16

    For those who actually are doing this. There is a C bet on the NHL Opening Game Chase System.

    NHL 11/24

    Vancouver Canucks (-175)

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    For those who actually are doing this. There is a C bet on the NHL Opening Game Chase System.

    NHL 11/24

    Vancouver Canucks (-175)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gentruchi:

    For those who actually are doing this. There is a C bet on the NHL Opening Game Chase System.

    NHL 11/24

    Vancouver Canucks (-175)

    BOL

    Thanks Gentruchi.  Sorry, have been out of the country for a few days.  Tonight:

    Vancouver as a "C" play for us.

    This will complete our first series. 

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by gentruchi:

    For those who actually are doing this. There is a C bet on the NHL Opening Game Chase System.

    NHL 11/24

    Vancouver Canucks (-175)

    BOL

    Thanks Gentruchi.  Sorry, have been out of the country for a few days.  Tonight:

    Vancouver as a "C" play for us.

    This will complete our first series. 

    Good luck

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledime:

    Thanks Gentruchi.  Sorry, have been out of the country for a few days.  Tonight:

    Vancouver as a "C" play for us.

    This will complete our first series. 

    Vancouver wins so our first "C" chase series is over.

    YTD: 1-0

    Anyone else feel free to add any "C" play that you see out there from another system, and I'll try to keep everything straight.

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledime:

    Thanks Gentruchi.  Sorry, have been out of the country for a few days.  Tonight:

    Vancouver as a "C" play for us.

    This will complete our first series. 

    Vancouver wins so our first "C" chase series is over.

    YTD: 1-0

    Anyone else feel free to add any "C" play that you see out there from another system, and I'll try to keep everything straight.

    Good luck

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 2:47 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by doubledime:

    Just to keep it straight, we have one series pending and the next "C"  team submitted will be our B play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubledime:

    Just to keep it straight, we have one series pending and the next "C"  team submitted will be our B play.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 11:59 AM ET #20

    2 C Bets from Sports Betting Professor System

    Season 2010-2011


    (-> 11/27)


    NBA Original

    11-0 system and 14-19-0 straight up

    Next ==> c

    NBA Updated

    7-2 system and 10-20-0 straight up

    Next ==> c


    SAME PLAY FOR BOTH SYSTEMS
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    2 C Bets from Sports Betting Professor System

    Season 2010-2011


    (-> 11/27)


    NBA Original

    11-0 system and 14-19-0 straight up

    Next ==> c

    NBA Updated

    7-2 system and 10-20-0 straight up

    Next ==> c


    SAME PLAY FOR BOTH SYSTEMS
    ATLANTA -1
     
     
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    HRC PREMIUM NFL ACTION-November 28th

    C - BET (
    219] Tennessee ||Bet C|+6.5
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    HRC PREMIUM NFL ACTION-November 28th

    C - BET (
    219] Tennessee ||Bet C|+6.5
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