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    JEFFTHEHAT
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2013 - 9:00 PM ET #1

    Ok guys another system:

    I will have plenty for next season

    This is an O/U system 5 game chase

    This year alone is 288-0 

    Just beginning  to back check, expect at least 400 plays a year? If you bet $50 a unit that $20k. 
    The beauty is, if it goes to game 5 which it did 4 times this year it's a 31 unit roughly play, compared to 82 units on a -150 system 

    Not going to post rules now but if there is interest I will post plays 
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    Ok guys another system:

    I will have plenty for next season

    This is an O/U system 5 game chase

    This year alone is 288-0 

    Just beginning  to back check, expect at least 400 plays a year? If you bet $50 a unit that $20k. 
    The beauty is, if it goes to game 5 which it did 4 times this year it's a 31 unit roughly play, compared to 82 units on a -150 system 

    Not going to post rules now but if there is interest I will post plays 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2013 - 9:02 PM ET #2

    P.S. I have a system similar to this which works on the NBA totals! 
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    P.S. I have a system similar to this which works on the NBA totals! 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2013 - 10:06 PM ET #3

    Interested in any system that goes 288-0. You said only 4 game 5's. How many game 4's?
    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Interested in any system that goes 288-0. You said only 4 game 5's. How many game 4's?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2013 - 10:11 PM ET #4

    Of course we'd like to see the plays.....as grandma use to say...the proof is in the pudding
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    Of course we'd like to see the plays.....as grandma use to say...the proof is in the pudding
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2013 - 10:12 PM ET #5


    Let's see this thing
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    Let's see this thing
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2013 - 10:31 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Interested in any system that goes 288-0. You said only 4 game 5's. How many game 4's?


    A-268
    B-72
    C-27
    D-17
    E-10

    Sorry it's 10 game 5 missed a page
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Interested in any system that goes 288-0. You said only 4 game 5's. How many game 4's?


    A-268
    B-72
    C-27
    D-17
    E-10

    Sorry it's 10 game 5 missed a page
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2013 - 10:33 PM ET #7

    Darn it! 

    162 A wins typo
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    Darn it! 

    162 A wins typo
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2013 - 10:11 AM ET #8

    Hi jeff

    Thanks for your work.

    Would be interested in knowing about this system and all your system and follow you.

     

    Thanks

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    Hi jeff

    Thanks for your work.

    Would be interested in knowing about this system and all your system and follow you.

     

    Thanks

     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2013 - 10:24 AM ET #9

    interested. lets see some plays for this year. would like to see how it goes for the remainder of the season

    thanks!!
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    interested. lets see some plays for this year. would like to see how it goes for the remainder of the season

    thanks!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2013 - 12:52 PM ET #11

    If your numbers are accurate, why even bother with a chase? 162 A wins and 45 B wins against 72 A losses and 27 B losses is 207-99. Bet them straight up for the two games and forget 'em after that. 67% wins? Who can't make money with that and you don't have to sweat out the huge bets with C,Dand E.
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    If your numbers are accurate, why even bother with a chase? 162 A wins and 45 B wins against 72 A losses and 27 B losses is 207-99. Bet them straight up for the two games and forget 'em after that. 67% wins? Who can't make money with that and you don't have to sweat out the huge bets with C,Dand E.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pd_:

    interested. lets see some plays for this year. would like to see how it goes for the remainder of the season

    thanks!!


    I had PM`d Riceboi with 3 of the 5 "A" winners yesterday LAA over, NYY over, BOS over and the 2 he didnt get were SEA over and NYM under. there are not plays everyday so next time any come up I will post. This system works on NBA also I`M going to check it on NHL also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pd_:

    interested. lets see some plays for this year. would like to see how it goes for the remainder of the season

    thanks!!


    I had PM`d Riceboi with 3 of the 5 "A" winners yesterday LAA over, NYY over, BOS over and the 2 he didnt get were SEA over and NYM under. there are not plays everyday so next time any come up I will post. This system works on NBA also I`M going to check it on NHL also.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkirby99:

    If your numbers are accurate, why even bother with a chase? 162 A wins and 45 B wins against 72 A losses and 27 B losses is 207-99. Bet them straight up for the two games and forget 'em after that. 67% wins? Who can't make money with that and you don't have to sweat out the huge bets with C,Dand E.


    My problem is I`m a perfectionist if it doesnt have almost flawless results I can it. My goal is to obliterate the books. On a couple previous posts on different threads I have stated I have roughly a dozen or so systems for baseball to unleash which if played them all would probably net you 750 units on the very conservative side. I dont know how I`m going to present them yet as it is extremely time consuming. Good luck to all!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkirby99:

    If your numbers are accurate, why even bother with a chase? 162 A wins and 45 B wins against 72 A losses and 27 B losses is 207-99. Bet them straight up for the two games and forget 'em after that. 67% wins? Who can't make money with that and you don't have to sweat out the huge bets with C,Dand E.


    My problem is I`m a perfectionist if it doesnt have almost flawless results I can it. My goal is to obliterate the books. On a couple previous posts on different threads I have stated I have roughly a dozen or so systems for baseball to unleash which if played them all would probably net you 750 units on the very conservative side. I dont know how I`m going to present them yet as it is extremely time consuming. Good luck to all!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:



    My problem is I`m a perfectionist if it doesnt have almost flawless results I can it. My goal is to obliterate the books. On a couple previous posts on different threads I have stated I have roughly a dozen or so systems for baseball to unleash which if played them all would probably net you 750 units on the very conservative side. I dont know how I`m going to present them yet as it is extremely time consuming. Good luck to all!!

    Dude, it's not about perfection. If you have something that hits over 60% with -110 juice, you can retire. There is no perfection in sports wagering, even in chases. The one chase that goes 0-5 especially with juice is going to wipe out an entire year or more not to mention the agony of sitting through even the winners of game 4 or 5 with a ton of money on the line. Post the plays, please or give us the rules. I for one would be very content with 67% winners.
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    My problem is I`m a perfectionist if it doesnt have almost flawless results I can it. My goal is to obliterate the books. On a couple previous posts on different threads I have stated I have roughly a dozen or so systems for baseball to unleash which if played them all would probably net you 750 units on the very conservative side. I dont know how I`m going to present them yet as it is extremely time consuming. Good luck to all!!

    Dude, it's not about perfection. If you have something that hits over 60% with -110 juice, you can retire. There is no perfection in sports wagering, even in chases. The one chase that goes 0-5 especially with juice is going to wipe out an entire year or more not to mention the agony of sitting through even the winners of game 4 or 5 with a ton of money on the line. Post the plays, please or give us the rules. I for one would be very content with 67% winners.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:



    I had PM`d Riceboi with 3 of the 5 "A" winners yesterday LAA over, NYY over, BOS over and the 2 he didnt get were SEA over and NYM under. there are not plays everyday so next time any come up I will post. This system works on NBA also I`M going to check it on NHL also.

    good stuff. looking forward to it
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    I had PM`d Riceboi with 3 of the 5 "A" winners yesterday LAA over, NYY over, BOS over and the 2 he didnt get were SEA over and NYM under. there are not plays everyday so next time any come up I will post. This system works on NBA also I`M going to check it on NHL also.

    good stuff. looking forward to it
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2013 - 3:39 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by kkirby99:

    If your numbers are accurate, why even bother with a chase? 162 A wins and 45 B wins against 72 A losses and 27 B losses is 207-99. Bet them straight up for the two games and forget 'em after that. 67% wins? Who can't make money with that and you don't have to sweat out the huge bets with C,Dand E.


    I think the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkirby99:

    If your numbers are accurate, why even bother with a chase? 162 A wins and 45 B wins against 72 A losses and 27 B losses is 207-99. Bet them straight up for the two games and forget 'em after that. 67% wins? Who can't make money with that and you don't have to sweat out the huge bets with C,Dand E.


    I think the same
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2013 - 4:04 PM ET #17

    Please post the plays Jeff. You rock
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2013 - 4:23 PM ET #18

    A 2 game chase is up roughly 72 units. You could go very large per unit on a 2 game chase. If your numbers hold up on back tests this could make us very rich with a 2 game chase.
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    A 2 game chase is up roughly 72 units. You could go very large per unit on a 2 game chase. If your numbers hold up on back tests this could make us very rich with a 2 game chase.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkirby99:

    If your numbers are accurate, why even bother with a chase? 162 A wins and 45 B wins against 72 A losses and 27 B losses is 207-99. Bet them straight up for the two games and forget 'em after that. 67% wins? Who can't make money with that and you don't have to sweat out the huge bets with C,Dand E.

    Your numbers are off here. Total of 288 series. A game would be 162-126, B game 72-54. Total A&B record combined is 234-180, 56.5 %.  Flat betting at -110 odds would be a 36 unit profit.

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkirby99:

    If your numbers are accurate, why even bother with a chase? 162 A wins and 45 B wins against 72 A losses and 27 B losses is 207-99. Bet them straight up for the two games and forget 'em after that. 67% wins? Who can't make money with that and you don't have to sweat out the huge bets with C,Dand E.

    Your numbers are off here. Total of 288 series. A game would be 162-126, B game 72-54. Total A&B record combined is 234-180, 56.5 %.  Flat betting at -110 odds would be a 36 unit profit.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2013 - 4:48 PM ET #20

    5 game chase is rough - are you sure an E bet is 82 units though?

    without the juice

    A game  -1 unit
    B game  -2 units
    C game  -4 units
    D game  -8 units
    E game  -16 units

    total units lost on a 5 game chase ~31 units.  i over simplified and didn't factor in the juice but with over unders your getting somewhere between -110 to -150
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    5 game chase is rough - are you sure an E bet is 82 units though?

    without the juice

    A game  -1 unit
    B game  -2 units
    C game  -4 units
    D game  -8 units
    E game  -16 units

    total units lost on a 5 game chase ~31 units.  i over simplified and didn't factor in the juice but with over unders your getting somewhere between -110 to -150
     
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    Dan see my post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riceboi:

    A 2 game chase is up roughly 72 units. You could go very large per unit on a 2 game chase. If your numbers hold up on back tests this could make us very rich with a 2 game chase.

    Looks like you didn't figure in any juice (72 units). I show a 2 game chase record of 234-54. If we get odds at a -120 a 2 game loss would be 3.84 units. This would result in a 27 unit profit, 234 - (54 x 3.84). If we got -110 in both games we have a 50 unit profit.

    Don't get me wrong, I'll take a 27-50 unit profit anythime, but I think if Jeff ran this as a 5 game chase, I'd probably use a labby line. The 3-5 games had a record of 27-27 for game 3, 17-10 for game 4 and 10-0 for game 5, combined 54-37. At low juice compared to other chases I'd be able to get over 200 unit profit on the labby line without risking too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riceboi:

    A 2 game chase is up roughly 72 units. You could go very large per unit on a 2 game chase. If your numbers hold up on back tests this could make us very rich with a 2 game chase.

    Looks like you didn't figure in any juice (72 units). I show a 2 game chase record of 234-54. If we get odds at a -120 a 2 game loss would be 3.84 units. This would result in a 27 unit profit, 234 - (54 x 3.84). If we got -110 in both games we have a 50 unit profit.

    Don't get me wrong, I'll take a 27-50 unit profit anythime, but I think if Jeff ran this as a 5 game chase, I'd probably use a labby line. The 3-5 games had a record of 27-27 for game 3, 17-10 for game 4 and 10-0 for game 5, combined 54-37. At low juice compared to other chases I'd be able to get over 200 unit profit on the labby line without risking too much.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2013 - 6:10 PM ET #23

    Dan I'm not sure how big your lab by line units are but for a 2 game chase my unit size could be 20 to 30 times bigger than a 5 game chase unit size.
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    Dan I'm not sure how big your lab by line units are but for a 2 game chase my unit size could be 20 to 30 times bigger than a 5 game chase unit size.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    5 game chase is rough - are you sure an E bet is 82 units though?

    without the juice

    A game  -1 unit
    B game  -2 units
    C game  -4 units
    D game  -8 units
    E game  -16 units

    total units lost on a 5 game chase ~31 units.  i over simplified and didn't factor in the juice but with over unders your getting somewhere between -110 to -150

    Degen, I think you misread my first post. You are correct about 31 units for game loss, I was comparing it to a -150 ave system which is roughly 82 units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    5 game chase is rough - are you sure an E bet is 82 units though?

    without the juice

    A game  -1 unit
    B game  -2 units
    C game  -4 units
    D game  -8 units
    E game  -16 units

    total units lost on a 5 game chase ~31 units.  i over simplified and didn't factor in the juice but with over unders your getting somewhere between -110 to -150

    Degen, I think you misread my first post. You are correct about 31 units for game loss, I was comparing it to a -150 ave system which is roughly 82 units.
     
     
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    Wow, isn't expect all the attention. By the way guys early returns on using a hybrid of this system in NHL are looking good, should have last years back check this evening. As far as baseball plays I know for ure we have a CINC under starting tomorrow.
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    Wow, isn't expect all the attention. By the way guys early returns on using a hybrid of this system in NHL are looking good, should have last years back check this evening. As far as baseball plays I know for ure we have a CINC under starting tomorrow.
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