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    TheBeefMan
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2014 - 10:37 AM ET #1

    Hello, all. I figured I'd share my hockey bets here. I run a synthesis of four systems from around the internet. All of them are a 3-game chase. However, I have a few modifications. First, I only chase teams over .530 and fade teams under .470. Second, I use a three line labby instead of a straight up chase. Third, for the JM and Home-Stand systems, I'm only going to play the following teams this month and they have to be over .530 at the start of the chase:

    Blackhawks
    Bruins
    Kings
    Penguins
    Ducks
    Blues
    Sharks
    Rangers
    Lightning
    Canadiens

    Starting November, all teams can qualify, as long as they're over .530.

    Here are the 4 systems I'll be using. You can find them with google.

    1.) Wallco NHL Gold
    2.) JM NHL
    3.) NHL Opening Game Favorite
    (ignore the -145 filter, i.e. chase teams over .530 starting a 3 game homestand.)
    4.) Post All-Star Game Road Fade


    2013-14 Total: 186-8

    A. 134-60
    B. 42-18
    C. 10-8

    First potential plays are Saturday.
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    Hello, all. I figured I'd share my hockey bets here. I run a synthesis of four systems from around the internet. All of them are a 3-game chase. However, I have a few modifications. First, I only chase teams over .530 and fade teams under .470. Second, I use a three line labby instead of a straight up chase. Third, for the JM and Home-Stand systems, I'm only going to play the following teams this month and they have to be over .530 at the start of the chase:

    Blackhawks
    Bruins
    Kings
    Penguins
    Ducks
    Blues
    Sharks
    Rangers
    Lightning
    Canadiens

    Starting November, all teams can qualify, as long as they're over .530.

    Here are the 4 systems I'll be using. You can find them with google.

    1.) Wallco NHL Gold
    2.) JM NHL
    3.) NHL Opening Game Favorite
    (ignore the -145 filter, i.e. chase teams over .530 starting a 3 game homestand.)
    4.) Post All-Star Game Road Fade


    2013-14 Total: 186-8

    A. 134-60
    B. 42-18
    C. 10-8

    First potential plays are Saturday.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2014 - 11:20 AM ET #2

    I couldn't find rules for wallco nhl gold could you post.


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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2014 - 11:37 AM ET #3

    I found the rules
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2014 - 5:37 PM ET #5

    2013-14 Total: 186-8

    A. 134-60
    B. 42-18
    C. 10-8

    How many units did those 8 lose in total?
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    2013-14 Total: 186-8

    A. 134-60
    B. 42-18
    C. 10-8

    How many units did those 8 lose in total?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2014 - 11:50 PM ET #6

    Thanks for sharing!
    You are a legend.
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    Thanks for sharing!
    You are a legend.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2014 - 1:47 AM ET #7

    Just a question - how did you determine the teams you would like to play for the first month of the season?
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2014 - 5:36 PM ET #8

    Nice! How do you think labby lining just A bets B and C. And mix it up once in a while labby the full chase if your up. It worked well for me in basball.
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    Nice! How do you think labby lining just A bets B and C. And mix it up once in a while labby the full chase if your up. It worked well for me in basball.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2014 - 10:36 AM ET #9

    Today

    A Chicago (to win 1)

    YTD Chase Record: 0-0
    Unit Count: +0.00

    A. 
    B.
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    A Chicago (to win 1)

    YTD Chase Record: 0-0
    Unit Count: +0.00

    A. 
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2014 - 10:39 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostNL:

    2013-14 Total: 186-8

    A. 134-60
    B. 42-18
    C. 10-8

    How many units did those 8 lose in total?

    I made about 10 units last year but I wasn't consistent with my strategy. A straight-up chase loss is usually about 20 units. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostNL:

    2013-14 Total: 186-8

    A. 134-60
    B. 42-18
    C. 10-8

    How many units did those 8 lose in total?

    I made about 10 units last year but I wasn't consistent with my strategy. A straight-up chase loss is usually about 20 units. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2014 - 10:40 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by rivermonsterz:

    Just a question - how did you determine the teams you would like to play for the first month of the season?

    Top 10 likeliest teams to win the Stanley Cup via 5Dimes. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivermonsterz:

    Just a question - how did you determine the teams you would like to play for the first month of the season?

    Top 10 likeliest teams to win the Stanley Cup via 5Dimes. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2014 - 10:45 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny2k4:

    Nice! How do you think labby lining just A bets B and C. And mix it up once in a while labby the full chase if your up. It worked well for me in basball.

    If something works for you I'd stick with it. My general labby rules are to not bet more than 5 units on a game, and to reset your lines if things get too crazy. I made about 50 units in two months doing this last year when combining the numbers with my NBA system.

    Because of the subjective nature of the labby, I won't list my lines here but I'll list the units I bet to win each game and track the unit count. It will differ from person to person depending on what lines you get, but if you bet the amounts I list you should end up close to the thread unit count. 
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    Nice! How do you think labby lining just A bets B and C. And mix it up once in a while labby the full chase if your up. It worked well for me in basball.

    If something works for you I'd stick with it. My general labby rules are to not bet more than 5 units on a game, and to reset your lines if things get too crazy. I made about 50 units in two months doing this last year when combining the numbers with my NBA system.

    Because of the subjective nature of the labby, I won't list my lines here but I'll list the units I bet to win each game and track the unit count. It will differ from person to person depending on what lines you get, but if you bet the amounts I list you should end up close to the thread unit count. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2014 - 1:30 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:

    TodayA Chicago (to win 1)YTD Chase Record: 0-0Unit Count: +0.00A. B.C.


    Is this played on the PL or ML?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:

    TodayA Chicago (to win 1)YTD Chase Record: 0-0Unit Count: +0.00A. B.C.


    Is this played on the PL or ML?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 11, 2014 - 4:24 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Skers2003:



    Is this played on the PL or ML?

    Just in case Beef doesn't get here in time for to game, I believe if a team is the favourite you play moneyline, if they are a dog you play the +1.5 PL

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    Is this played on the PL or ML?

    Just in case Beef doesn't get here in time for to game, I believe if a team is the favourite you play moneyline, if they are a dog you play the +1.5 PL

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivermonsterz:

    Just in case Beef doesn't get here in time for to game, I believe if a team is the favourite you play moneyline, if they are a dog you play the +1.5 PL


    Thanks RiverMonsterz, this is correct for all plays. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivermonsterz:

    Just in case Beef doesn't get here in time for to game, I believe if a team is the favourite you play moneyline, if they are a dog you play the +1.5 PL


    Thanks RiverMonsterz, this is correct for all plays. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2014 - 8:25 AM ET #16

    Today

    No plays

    YTD Chase Record: 1-0
    Unit Count: +1.00

    A. 1-0
    B. 0-0
    C. 0-0
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    Today

    No plays

    YTD Chase Record: 1-0
    Unit Count: +1.00

    A. 1-0
    B. 0-0
    C. 0-0
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2014 - 7:16 PM ET #17

    The LA kind gs are starting a 3 or more game homstand. Wouldn't they be a play today?
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2014 - 7:49 PM ET #18

    Also the Rangers are too I think.
    Maybe I'm missing something?
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    Maybe I'm missing something?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2014 - 7:57 PM ET #19

    My apologies I see where I am wrong. I thought those 10 teams were to be played regardless. I see we only play them if their win % is over 0.530
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    My apologies I see where I am wrong. I thought those 10 teams were to be played regardless. I see we only play them if their win % is over 0.530
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2014 - 8:48 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:


    I made about 10 units last year but I wasn't consistent with my strategy. A straight-up chase loss is usually about 20 units. 

    So we can expect a 20 unit win ? I'm interested in the system but does not seem that profitable tbf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeefMan:


    I made about 10 units last year but I wasn't consistent with my strategy. A straight-up chase loss is usually about 20 units. 

    So we can expect a 20 unit win ? I'm interested in the system but does not seem that profitable tbf.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostNL:


    So we can expect a 20 unit win ? I'm interested in the system but does not seem that profitable tbf.

    I think a profitable way to run this system is as follows.

    Use a labby line for each game.

    A) games

    B) games

    C) games (im only going to run the A and B games)

    I keep 200 units in my bankroll and my lines will look like this.

    0.1u  -   0.1u  - 0.1u  -  0.1u

    Say for example if NYR were a play today (THEY WERE NOT just example here) you would have been betting your A line to win 0.2 units.

    Lets say 0.2 units is $20, NYR paying $1.59 (or -170), you would have lost $33.90.

    Now your line would look like this.

    A) 10-10-10-10-33.90

    B) 10-10-10-10

    The next time the Rangers play, you would not be trying to recoup ANY money lost from the A bet, you would simply play whatever is on the B line.

    The next time there is an A game of any team, you would play the A line.

    If there are 2 games at the same time I simply average out the last 2 numbers on the line.

    Due to the insane juice we will be paying, I have chosen to use a very small percentage of my bankroll as I play football and another hockey system that I am currently testing.

    With a 70% winning percentage on A and B bets I am confident of being able to turn a nice little profit with minimal risk playing the way I have outlined above.

    Once again thanks BeefMan for sharing your system.

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    So we can expect a 20 unit win ? I'm interested in the system but does not seem that profitable tbf.

    I think a profitable way to run this system is as follows.

    Use a labby line for each game.

    A) games

    B) games

    C) games (im only going to run the A and B games)

    I keep 200 units in my bankroll and my lines will look like this.

    0.1u  -   0.1u  - 0.1u  -  0.1u

    Say for example if NYR were a play today (THEY WERE NOT just example here) you would have been betting your A line to win 0.2 units.

    Lets say 0.2 units is $20, NYR paying $1.59 (or -170), you would have lost $33.90.

    Now your line would look like this.

    A) 10-10-10-10-33.90

    B) 10-10-10-10

    The next time the Rangers play, you would not be trying to recoup ANY money lost from the A bet, you would simply play whatever is on the B line.

    The next time there is an A game of any team, you would play the A line.

    If there are 2 games at the same time I simply average out the last 2 numbers on the line.

    Due to the insane juice we will be paying, I have chosen to use a very small percentage of my bankroll as I play football and another hockey system that I am currently testing.

    With a 70% winning percentage on A and B bets I am confident of being able to turn a nice little profit with minimal risk playing the way I have outlined above.

    Once again thanks BeefMan for sharing your system.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2014 - 2:45 AM ET #22

    Its also important to note that its not out of the realm to be playing -300 odds, so in that case your next A bet in the above situation at -300 would be over $150, hence why I am only using 0.1 unit numbers as this would be a 1.5 unit bet which is fine.

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    Its also important to note that its not out of the realm to be playing -300 odds, so in that case your next A bet in the above situation at -300 would be over $150, hence why I am only using 0.1 unit numbers as this would be a 1.5 unit bet which is fine.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2014 - 2:47 AM ET #23

    And lets just hope we don't lose more that 5 A bets in a row
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2014 - 2:26 PM ET #24

    I think it's better to split the A bet loss of 33.90 between A and B line like this.

    10-10-10-10-17

    10-10-10-10-17

    bet the aggressive labby on B bet if it comes in then the bank roll nwill still be in decent shape
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    bet the aggressive labby on B bet if it comes in then the bank roll nwill still be in decent shape
     
     
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    If you are suggesting aggressive on the B line would it be...

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    10-10-10-27 ?
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