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    NFL O/U at 73.2%

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    kenyonlv
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 12:45 AM ET #1

    I’ve been playing around with my NFL system for a few years now but never tweaked it that much … I only used it to pick SU winners.  The basic premise is that it compares the major stats based on the schedule of each team.  So if you have high passing yards in say 6 games but low passing in the other 2 and the 6 games were against weak defenses and the other 2 were against good defenses that team would most probably have a negative # in that stat, each team stat is either positive or negative.  I update my spreadsheet with the weekly stats and it outputs values which I then compare for each game of the upcoming week.

     

    It takes a couple of weeks to get decent #’s so I have only used in it weeks 3 thru 8 and found that it is 64.7% predicting the O/U in those 85 games.  If I only count the games where the system picks the Over it is 73.2%.  With the week 3 thru 8 results/lines I used I have the Over winning 47 times and the Under 36 times with 2 pushes, so a just pick the over system is 55.3%.  It has picked the Under 44 times and the Over 41 times in those 85 games so it is pretty much balanced now, but explains why if I only use the “over picks” it is at 73.2%.

     

    What I ask is do you think there is any merit in these #’s?  I want to start testing it with real money this weekend … should I bet all games and go for the 64.7% or just bet the over picks and try for the 73.2% route?  I looked at each week and the worst it has done is +1.6 units and the best is +6.7 units, that's if all games were played.  I have not found a way to put “values” on the picks yet … ie 5 star or 10 star kinda stuff, and I’m a little worried if I only pick a few of the games to bet I’ll pick the wrong ones and lose.  I always read on here people say only bet a few games, but this seems like a case to bet on all of them … what do you think?

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    I’ve been playing around with my NFL system for a few years now but never tweaked it that much … I only used it to pick SU winners.  The basic premise is that it compares the major stats based on the schedule of each team.  So if you have high passing yards in say 6 games but low passing in the other 2 and the 6 games were against weak defenses and the other 2 were against good defenses that team would most probably have a negative # in that stat, each team stat is either positive or negative.  I update my spreadsheet with the weekly stats and it outputs values which I then compare for each game of the upcoming week.

     

    It takes a couple of weeks to get decent #’s so I have only used in it weeks 3 thru 8 and found that it is 64.7% predicting the O/U in those 85 games.  If I only count the games where the system picks the Over it is 73.2%.  With the week 3 thru 8 results/lines I used I have the Over winning 47 times and the Under 36 times with 2 pushes, so a just pick the over system is 55.3%.  It has picked the Under 44 times and the Over 41 times in those 85 games so it is pretty much balanced now, but explains why if I only use the “over picks” it is at 73.2%.

     

    What I ask is do you think there is any merit in these #’s?  I want to start testing it with real money this weekend … should I bet all games and go for the 64.7% or just bet the over picks and try for the 73.2% route?  I looked at each week and the worst it has done is +1.6 units and the best is +6.7 units, that's if all games were played.  I have not found a way to put “values” on the picks yet … ie 5 star or 10 star kinda stuff, and I’m a little worried if I only pick a few of the games to bet I’ll pick the wrong ones and lose.  I always read on here people say only bet a few games, but this seems like a case to bet on all of them … what do you think?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 1:04 AM ET #2

    Just start out with a small unit if you feel the need to get your feet wet. As far as what you want to do is up to you, but in my opinion Id rather play a system that hits at 73%. Lower risk with more steady profits. 

    Do you post any of these plays?
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    Just start out with a small unit if you feel the need to get your feet wet. As far as what you want to do is up to you, but in my opinion Id rather play a system that hits at 73%. Lower risk with more steady profits. 

    Do you post any of these plays?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 1:18 AM ET #3

    keny,

    how long have you been testing this? does this strategy pick a result for every game of the week?

    most of the time with systems you want to play all the games that fit your parameter or filters unless there is something significant that would change the outcome such as an injury to a key player, weather or something else. i'm not sure what your exact strategy is so i don't know exactly what the right answer is, it could be that your formula or strategy leans towards picking the overs more accurate.
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    keny,

    how long have you been testing this? does this strategy pick a result for every game of the week?

    most of the time with systems you want to play all the games that fit your parameter or filters unless there is something significant that would change the outcome such as an injury to a key player, weather or something else. i'm not sure what your exact strategy is so i don't know exactly what the right answer is, it could be that your formula or strategy leans towards picking the overs more accurate.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 1:29 AM ET #4

    Thanks HeaVin for the input ... thing is if/when more unders start hitting i hope to see even better #'s.  I've read where people say to ride the streak and I see value in that also.  I just checked and the best week was week 4 when 10 Overs won and 3 Unders won and the system was 10-3 and worst was week 5 when Overs won 8 and Unders won 6 and system went 8-6 (just coincidence records are the same, I didn't just pick Overs lol), so I guess I can disregard the above statement.  I'm leaning like you said ... just play when system says over.  I'm getting my lines from Station Casino now and will post the predictions in a few minutes.
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    Thanks HeaVin for the input ... thing is if/when more unders start hitting i hope to see even better #'s.  I've read where people say to ride the streak and I see value in that also.  I just checked and the best week was week 4 when 10 Overs won and 3 Unders won and the system was 10-3 and worst was week 5 when Overs won 8 and Unders won 6 and system went 8-6 (just coincidence records are the same, I didn't just pick Overs lol), so I guess I can disregard the above statement.  I'm leaning like you said ... just play when system says over.  I'm getting my lines from Station Casino now and will post the predictions in a few minutes.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 1:31 AM ET #5

    If you can hit 64.7% that's crazy betting every game (assuming you tracked this back several years). And if so, bet all of them.
    Also, bet the same amount every game. Don't get into the 5* 10* stuff, it's terrible money management and you'll go broke fast.

    64.7% betting all games is better than 73.2% betting half.
    This is why..

    Let's say you bet 200 games at 64.7%
    200*.647 = 129.4
    So basically out of the 200 games, you won 129.
    +129u - 71u(1.1) = +50.9u
    That's good, you're up 50.5u, which is crazy awesome.

    Now let's assume you only wanted to bet the overs.
    You play about half the games and have a win% of 73.2%
    100*.732 = 73.2
    So basically out of the 100 plays, you win 73.
    +73u - 27(1.1) = +43.3u
    So you're up 43.3u, which is still good, but almost 10 units less than betting every game at 64.7%.


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    If you can hit 64.7% that's crazy betting every game (assuming you tracked this back several years). And if so, bet all of them.
    Also, bet the same amount every game. Don't get into the 5* 10* stuff, it's terrible money management and you'll go broke fast.

    64.7% betting all games is better than 73.2% betting half.
    This is why..

    Let's say you bet 200 games at 64.7%
    200*.647 = 129.4
    So basically out of the 200 games, you won 129.
    +129u - 71u(1.1) = +50.9u
    That's good, you're up 50.5u, which is crazy awesome.

    Now let's assume you only wanted to bet the overs.
    You play about half the games and have a win% of 73.2%
    100*.732 = 73.2
    So basically out of the 100 plays, you win 73.
    +73u - 27(1.1) = +43.3u
    So you're up 43.3u, which is still good, but almost 10 units less than betting every game at 64.7%.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 1:45 AM ET #6

    TB   I've been doing the stat comparision for years, but just tried to apply it to O/U's last week.  Yes, it produces a result for every game.  I'll be looking for filters etc in the next few days and try and tweak it.  Right now I just get a spread and compare it to the Vegas O/U and if I am under thiers I say Under, if over pick Over.  I want to add turnovers into it and see how it relates.
     
    I don't think it leans to Overs, it actually picks unders more often .. I just think overs have won more ...
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    TB   I've been doing the stat comparision for years, but just tried to apply it to O/U's last week.  Yes, it produces a result for every game.  I'll be looking for filters etc in the next few days and try and tweak it.  Right now I just get a spread and compare it to the Vegas O/U and if I am under thiers I say Under, if over pick Over.  I want to add turnovers into it and see how it relates.
     
    I don't think it leans to Overs, it actually picks unders more often .. I just think overs have won more ...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 1:54 AM ET #7

    Tom,  Thanks for the input on betting constant and not trying to pick 5*, 10* stuff ... I lean towards betting them all a small amount and see if can maintain that rate.  Thanks for the math showing how one is better.   I eventually may have come to that conclusion ...
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    Tom,  Thanks for the input on betting constant and not trying to pick 5*, 10* stuff ... I lean towards betting them all a small amount and see if can maintain that rate.  Thanks for the math showing how one is better.   I eventually may have come to that conclusion ...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 2:26 AM ET #8

    have you back tested this strategy yet?
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    have you back tested this strategy yet?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 2:28 AM ET #9

    Patriots/Colts Under 45 (5.5)

    Dolphins/Broncos Under 49 (3.6)

    Jaguars/Bengals Over 40 (3)

    Cowboys/Giants Over 41 (2.9)

    Bucs/Chiefs Over 37 (2.8)

    Eagles/Seahawks Over 42.5 (2.6)

    Packers/Titans Under 42.5 (1.8)

    Ravens/Browns Over 36 (1.7)

    Jets/Bills Over 42.5 (1.5)

    Cardinals/Rams Under 49 (1.2)

    Lions/Bears Over 43 (0.9)

    Falcons/Raiders Over 41 (0.9)

    Texans/Vikings Under 46.5 (0.1)

    Steelers/Redskins Pick 37 (0)

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    Patriots/Colts Under 45 (5.5)

    Dolphins/Broncos Under 49 (3.6)

    Jaguars/Bengals Over 40 (3)

    Cowboys/Giants Over 41 (2.9)

    Bucs/Chiefs Over 37 (2.8)

    Eagles/Seahawks Over 42.5 (2.6)

    Packers/Titans Under 42.5 (1.8)

    Ravens/Browns Over 36 (1.7)

    Jets/Bills Over 42.5 (1.5)

    Cardinals/Rams Under 49 (1.2)

    Lions/Bears Over 43 (0.9)

    Falcons/Raiders Over 41 (0.9)

    Texans/Vikings Under 46.5 (0.1)

    Steelers/Redskins Pick 37 (0)

     
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    TB ... No, it would take a LARGE amount of work.  Each year I have done something a little different and to get the past 3 or 4 years like I have it now would be difficult.  By week 17 I have a spreadsheet that is 32 teams by 16 games for each stat. Then you have to compare for each game (512).  I may try and spot check, but it is doubtful much beyond that.

    I just checked for 6 games this year and thought the percentage was good ... but it is a very small sample so far.  On the good side, I assume comparing the stats in this manner gets better as the season goes on and helps spot weaknesses in the O/U.

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    TB ... No, it would take a LARGE amount of work.  Each year I have done something a little different and to get the past 3 or 4 years like I have it now would be difficult.  By week 17 I have a spreadsheet that is 32 teams by 16 games for each stat. Then you have to compare for each game (512).  I may try and spot check, but it is doubtful much beyond that.

    I just checked for 6 games this year and thought the percentage was good ... but it is a very small sample so far.  On the good side, I assume comparing the stats in this manner gets better as the season goes on and helps spot weaknesses in the O/U.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 5:06 PM ET #11

    can this system for for NCAA Football?  Or just NFL games?
     
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    can this system for for NCAA Football?  Or just NFL games?
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2008 - 6:28 PM ET #12

    Sure, you could do it for NCAA football. would be a whole lot more numbers to crunch.  I have never tried it tho.
     
    I just found a filter that helps.  In the 28 losing games 4 teams were involved in 12 losing games ...Bengals, Cards, Cowboys, and Jets.  So I am removing them from my test this week, along with the Steeler/Redskin and Texans/Vikings game since they are two close to call.  So my widdled down list is
     
    Patriots/Colts Under 45 (5.5)
    Dolphins/Broncos Under 49 (3.6)
    Bucs/Chiefs Over 37 (2.8)
    Eagles/Seahawks Over 42.5 (2.6)
    Packers/Titans Under 42.5 (1.8)
    Ravens/Browns Over 36 (1.7)
    Lions/Bears Over 43 (0.9)
    Falcons/Raiders Over 41 (0.9)
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    Sure, you could do it for NCAA football. would be a whole lot more numbers to crunch.  I have never tried it tho.
     
    I just found a filter that helps.  In the 28 losing games 4 teams were involved in 12 losing games ...Bengals, Cards, Cowboys, and Jets.  So I am removing them from my test this week, along with the Steeler/Redskin and Texans/Vikings game since they are two close to call.  So my widdled down list is
     
    Patriots/Colts Under 45 (5.5)
    Dolphins/Broncos Under 49 (3.6)
    Bucs/Chiefs Over 37 (2.8)
    Eagles/Seahawks Over 42.5 (2.6)
    Packers/Titans Under 42.5 (1.8)
    Ravens/Browns Over 36 (1.7)
    Lions/Bears Over 43 (0.9)
    Falcons/Raiders Over 41 (0.9)
     
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    Nice. Ill will definitely be looking at this this weekend. Maybe Ill tail just the over at a small unit to have some action. 

    TB - Quick question for you. Do you like to have you Unit set at a percentage of your bankroll? As if you have a $1000 so it you would have a 1% Unit which would be $10. And if your Bank Roll rises you increase the Unit? Im trying to have the best Management possible. Thanks ahead of time.
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    Nice. Ill will definitely be looking at this this weekend. Maybe Ill tail just the over at a small unit to have some action. 

    TB - Quick question for you. Do you like to have you Unit set at a percentage of your bankroll? As if you have a $1000 so it you would have a 1% Unit which would be $10. And if your Bank Roll rises you increase the Unit? Im trying to have the best Management possible. Thanks ahead of time.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 8:23 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomspeople:

    If you can hit 64.7% that's crazy betting every game (assuming you tracked this back several years). And if so, bet all of them.
    Also, bet the same amount every game. Don't get into the 5* 10* stuff, it's terrible money management and you'll go broke fast.

    64.7% betting all games is better than 73.2% betting half.
    This is why..

    Let's say you bet 200 games at 64.7%
    200*.647 = 129.4
    So basically out of the 200 games, you won 129.
    +129u - 71u(1.1) = +50.9u
    That's good, you're up 50.5u, which is crazy awesome.

    Now let's assume you only wanted to bet the overs.
    You play about half the games and have a win% of 73.2%
    100*.732 = 73.2
    So basically out of the 100 plays, you win 73.
    +73u - 27(1.1) = +43.3u
    So you're up 43.3u, which is still good, but almost 10 units less than betting every game at 64.7%.



    Tom this is all relative to his bankroll, say you have $1000 you bet 10 games at $100 a piece I'll do this without juice and you win 64.7% of the time you would be at $1147......
    betting half the games with the same bankroll of $1000 you bet 5 games at $200 you win 73.2% of the time you would be at $1232
    You always go with the higher percentage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomspeople:

    If you can hit 64.7% that's crazy betting every game (assuming you tracked this back several years). And if so, bet all of them.
    Also, bet the same amount every game. Don't get into the 5* 10* stuff, it's terrible money management and you'll go broke fast.

    64.7% betting all games is better than 73.2% betting half.
    This is why..

    Let's say you bet 200 games at 64.7%
    200*.647 = 129.4
    So basically out of the 200 games, you won 129.
    +129u - 71u(1.1) = +50.9u
    That's good, you're up 50.5u, which is crazy awesome.

    Now let's assume you only wanted to bet the overs.
    You play about half the games and have a win% of 73.2%
    100*.732 = 73.2
    So basically out of the 100 plays, you win 73.
    +73u - 27(1.1) = +43.3u
    So you're up 43.3u, which is still good, but almost 10 units less than betting every game at 64.7%.



    Tom this is all relative to his bankroll, say you have $1000 you bet 10 games at $100 a piece I'll do this without juice and you win 64.7% of the time you would be at $1147......
    betting half the games with the same bankroll of $1000 you bet 5 games at $200 you win 73.2% of the time you would be at $1232
    You always go with the higher percentage.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 8:55 PM ET #15

    If you blindly bet based on a system you are guaranteed to lose money in the long run. Just cap your games and play it wisepy with proper money management strategy. If you cant follow proper money management (almost every bettor cant because they let emotions take over after some wins or lossess) or handicap games (lot of bettors cant because they fall for traps and pick the wrong side letting emotions take over again) just follow a decent capper blindly. try the cappers at bettingresource.com and their money management strategy. they have been money since the start of football.
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    If you blindly bet based on a system you are guaranteed to lose money in the long run. Just cap your games and play it wisepy with proper money management strategy. If you cant follow proper money management (almost every bettor cant because they let emotions take over after some wins or lossess) or handicap games (lot of bettors cant because they fall for traps and pick the wrong side letting emotions take over again) just follow a decent capper blindly. try the cappers at bettingresource.com and their money management strategy. they have been money since the start of football.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2008 - 9:24 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by ThornHopper:

    If you blindly bet based on a system you are guaranteed to lose money in the long run. Just cap your games and play it wisepy with proper money management strategy. If you cant follow proper money management (almost every bettor cant because they let emotions take over after some wins or lossess) or handicap games (lot of bettors cant because they fall for traps and pick the wrong side letting emotions take over again) just follow a decent capper blindly. try the cappers at bettingresource.com and their money management strategy. they have been money since the start of football.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThornHopper:

    If you blindly bet based on a system you are guaranteed to lose money in the long run. Just cap your games and play it wisepy with proper money management strategy. If you cant follow proper money management (almost every bettor cant because they let emotions take over after some wins or lossess) or handicap games (lot of bettors cant because they fall for traps and pick the wrong side letting emotions take over again) just follow a decent capper blindly. try the cappers at bettingresource.com and their money management strategy. they have been money since the start of football.


    1 Post and you touting some service...awesome
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2008 - 3:52 AM ET #17

    I glanced at the touts site and the first thing I saw was "Let us do the number crunching for you."  I have a degree in Physics and enjoy the "number crunching" and the possibility of finding something that works.  I imagine most people in here do it as a hobby and get enjoyment from it.  I placed some bets tonight on lines I like and think may change, so no I am not just betting "Blindly."  Granted I am just starting, but I think analyzing stats is a good beginning for becoming a good capper.    
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    I glanced at the touts site and the first thing I saw was "Let us do the number crunching for you."  I have a degree in Physics and enjoy the "number crunching" and the possibility of finding something that works.  I imagine most people in here do it as a hobby and get enjoyment from it.  I placed some bets tonight on lines I like and think may change, so no I am not just betting "Blindly."  Granted I am just starting, but I think analyzing stats is a good beginning for becoming a good capper.    
     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2008 - 5:23 PM ET #18

    good job
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    good job
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2008 - 12:14 AM ET #19

     Your system should have some value as to how much each game is an over assuming you are playing overs.You should be able to compare the lines with your information to get a value. By simply playing your 10 strongest games risking about 4% you will acquire long term profits. You will make a lot of money if you keep your funds in your account and continue to play 4% if your method  works.I also would tell you to be careful in the last game of the season. Strange things happe. Also weather conditions especially at this time of the year can alter results. Playing conditions, heavy wind, and cold weather must be factored in. I have seen playing fields that were all but unplayable. Unders are in order when this happens. The over has almost no chance.
     I too, would urge you to emphasis the overs if that is where you are getting a high % of winners.
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     Your system should have some value as to how much each game is an over assuming you are playing overs.You should be able to compare the lines with your information to get a value. By simply playing your 10 strongest games risking about 4% you will acquire long term profits. You will make a lot of money if you keep your funds in your account and continue to play 4% if your method  works.I also would tell you to be careful in the last game of the season. Strange things happe. Also weather conditions especially at this time of the year can alter results. Playing conditions, heavy wind, and cold weather must be factored in. I have seen playing fields that were all but unplayable. Unders are in order when this happens. The over has almost no chance.
     I too, would urge you to emphasis the overs if that is where you are getting a high % of winners.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2008 - 2:48 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by kenyonlv:

    Sure, you could do it for NCAA football. would be a whole lot more numbers to crunch.  I have never tried it tho.
     
    I just found a filter that helps.  In the 28 losing games 4 teams were involved in 12 losing games ...Bengals, Cards, Cowboys, and Jets.  So I am removing them from my test this week, along with the Steeler/Redskin and Texans/Vikings game since they are two close to call.  So my widdled down list is
     
    Patriots/Colts Under 45 (5.5) 
    Dolphins/Broncos Under 49 (3.6)
    Bucs/Chiefs Over 37 (2.8) 
    Eagles/Seahawks Over 42.5 (2.6) 
    Packers/Titans Under 42.5 (1.8) 
    Ravens/Browns Over 36 (1.7) 
    Lions/Bears Over 43 (0.9) 
    Falcons/Raiders Over 41 (0.9) 

    Not bad 75% on these, but with my luck I bet 4 games ... and included the two losers so I went 50-50.  I'm inclined to just bet them all next week.

    My filter ended up removing 3 (or 4 winning picks if you got Jax/Cin at 39.5 or 39) so that was not good this week.  Just picking overs did worse then just using them all.  Still, I'm pleased at the results, just unhappy I didn't win $$ this week.

    Hammer ... Thanks

    WOW Professor, not all caps ... thanks for the more easily readable comments.  The #'s in ( ) following the picks are a measure of the "strength" I assign to each play.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenyonlv:

    Sure, you could do it for NCAA football. would be a whole lot more numbers to crunch.  I have never tried it tho.
     
    I just found a filter that helps.  In the 28 losing games 4 teams were involved in 12 losing games ...Bengals, Cards, Cowboys, and Jets.  So I am removing them from my test this week, along with the Steeler/Redskin and Texans/Vikings game since they are two close to call.  So my widdled down list is
     
    Patriots/Colts Under 45 (5.5) 
    Dolphins/Broncos Under 49 (3.6)
    Bucs/Chiefs Over 37 (2.8) 
    Eagles/Seahawks Over 42.5 (2.6) 
    Packers/Titans Under 42.5 (1.8) 
    Ravens/Browns Over 36 (1.7) 
    Lions/Bears Over 43 (0.9) 
    Falcons/Raiders Over 41 (0.9) 

    Not bad 75% on these, but with my luck I bet 4 games ... and included the two losers so I went 50-50.  I'm inclined to just bet them all next week.

    My filter ended up removing 3 (or 4 winning picks if you got Jax/Cin at 39.5 or 39) so that was not good this week.  Just picking overs did worse then just using them all.  Still, I'm pleased at the results, just unhappy I didn't win $$ this week.

    Hammer ... Thanks

    WOW Professor, not all caps ... thanks for the more easily readable comments.  The #'s in ( ) following the picks are a measure of the "strength" I assign to each play.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2008 - 2:02 PM ET #21

    %75 would be UNBELIEVEABLE for NFL. I have a NHL system but I didnt looked in NFL too much. GL!
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    %75 would be UNBELIEVEABLE for NFL. I have a NHL system but I didnt looked in NFL too much. GL!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2008 - 12:18 PM ET #22

    kenny - great work so far.. keep it up bud!


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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2008 - 5:26 PM ET #23

    let it go on record, on 11-2, Profkopak posted in normal persons typing patterns.  Well done sir, well done.
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    let it go on record, on 11-2, Profkopak posted in normal persons typing patterns.  Well done sir, well done.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2008 - 11:53 PM ET #24

    Ok, Here's round two on my test ...
     
    Saints/Falcons Under 50 (3.6)
    Ravens/Texans Over 42 (3.3)
    Seahawks/Dolphins Under 43 (3.2)
    49ers/Cardinals Over 46 (3.2)
    Bills/Patriots Under 41.5 (2.9)
    Giants/Eagles Under 43.5 (2.4)
    Panthers/Raiders Under 38 (1.9)
    Jaguars/Lions Under 44 (1.4)
    Rams/Jets Over 44.5 (1.2)
    Titans/Bears Over 38.5 (0.8)
    Packers/Vikings Over 45 (0.4)
    Chiefs/Chargers Under 47.5 (0.1)
    Colts/Steelers ? (38.6)
     
    I made a refinement on the system this week, I included turnovers.  So far this year I could not find a relationship between the visiting teams score and the home teams turnovers, BUT I did find one for the reverse case.  I see each TO by the visiting team worth approx 5 points for the home team.  I know you can't cap TO's but the team average can be used as an indicator.
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    Ok, Here's round two on my test ...
     
    Saints/Falcons Under 50 (3.6)
    Ravens/Texans Over 42 (3.3)
    Seahawks/Dolphins Under 43 (3.2)
    49ers/Cardinals Over 46 (3.2)
    Bills/Patriots Under 41.5 (2.9)
    Giants/Eagles Under 43.5 (2.4)
    Panthers/Raiders Under 38 (1.9)
    Jaguars/Lions Under 44 (1.4)
    Rams/Jets Over 44.5 (1.2)
    Titans/Bears Over 38.5 (0.8)
    Packers/Vikings Over 45 (0.4)
    Chiefs/Chargers Under 47.5 (0.1)
    Colts/Steelers ? (38.6)
     
    I made a refinement on the system this week, I included turnovers.  So far this year I could not find a relationship between the visiting teams score and the home teams turnovers, BUT I did find one for the reverse case.  I see each TO by the visiting team worth approx 5 points for the home team.  I know you can't cap TO's but the team average can be used as an indicator.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2008 - 8:38 PM ET #25

    7 and 3 so far, with 2 pending. I'm taking it the Cotls/Steelers was not a play.
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    7 and 3 so far, with 2 pending. I'm taking it the Cotls/Steelers was not a play.
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