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    NCAA Football System - 2 team parlays

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    Alright.  Seen this posted before and I will post plays for tracking purposes.  Many books won't take these bets, but my local will,  so that may be the only way you can get away with putting them in.  If anyone knows of any online books that will, I would love to know who...
     
    System Details: NCAA Football - 2 Team Parlays
     
    Real Simple and its been posted before I believe.  Basically, when the spread of a College Football game is at least 1/3 of the totals, it qualifies as a play.    Once you find a game that qualifies, you need to put in 2 parlays for the same game.  These are 2 teamer parlays.    One parlay would be on the favorite and the over.   The 2nd parlay would be on the Dog and the under.  2 teamer pays out 2.5 to 1.  You are guaranteed to lose 1 of these plays.  Its a stinker if you lose both, but this is a pretty solid system.   Don't have records from the past years, but know its amazing the numbers it produces.  I may have some time this weekend to look...
     
    E.G. (game from last year)
        LSU @ Miss ST played on Aug 30th.   LSU favs -19.5/Over closed at 45
        Parlay #1  Lsu -19.5/Over 45 ---- $200 --- Winner -- pays out 2.5 to 1 --- so +$500
        Parlay #2 Miss St +19.5/Under 45 -- $200 - Loser -- ($200)
                Result = $500 - $200 ----> +$300
     
     
    E.G. Last night play was Utah/Utah St.  In this case, both plays were a loser (way to start the season).I will use closing lines for this example.   Utah +20.5/ Over was 50
        Parlay #1 - Utah +21.5/Over 50 --- $200 -- Loser
        Parlay #2 - Utah St -21.5/Under 50 --- $200 - Loser
                    Result = ($400)   
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    Alright.  Seen this posted before and I will post plays for tracking purposes.  Many books won't take these bets, but my local will,  so that may be the only way you can get away with putting them in.  If anyone knows of any online books that will, I would love to know who...
     
    System Details: NCAA Football - 2 Team Parlays
     
    Real Simple and its been posted before I believe.  Basically, when the spread of a College Football game is at least 1/3 of the totals, it qualifies as a play.    Once you find a game that qualifies, you need to put in 2 parlays for the same game.  These are 2 teamer parlays.    One parlay would be on the favorite and the over.   The 2nd parlay would be on the Dog and the under.  2 teamer pays out 2.5 to 1.  You are guaranteed to lose 1 of these plays.  Its a stinker if you lose both, but this is a pretty solid system.   Don't have records from the past years, but know its amazing the numbers it produces.  I may have some time this weekend to look...
     
    E.G. (game from last year)
        LSU @ Miss ST played on Aug 30th.   LSU favs -19.5/Over closed at 45
        Parlay #1  Lsu -19.5/Over 45 ---- $200 --- Winner -- pays out 2.5 to 1 --- so +$500
        Parlay #2 Miss St +19.5/Under 45 -- $200 - Loser -- ($200)
                Result = $500 - $200 ----> +$300
     
     
    E.G. Last night play was Utah/Utah St.  In this case, both plays were a loser (way to start the season).I will use closing lines for this example.   Utah +20.5/ Over was 50
        Parlay #1 - Utah +21.5/Over 50 --- $200 -- Loser
        Parlay #2 - Utah St -21.5/Under 50 --- $200 - Loser
                    Result = ($400)   
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2009 - 2:08 PM ET #2

    Week 1 Plays: $100 per parlay

    Parlay 1) Navy +21.5 and under 46.5
    Parlay 2) Ohio St -21.5 & Over 46.5
    3) Akron +27 & Under 59.5
    4) Penn St -27 & Over 59.5
    5) BYU +22 & Under 66
    6) Oklahoma -22 & over 66
    7) MD +21 & Under 51
    8) California -21 & Over 51
    9) San Jose St +33 & Under 47.5
    10) USC -33 & Over 47.5
    11) San Diego St +19 & Under 48.5
    12) UCLA -19 & Over 48.5
    13) LSU -17.5 & Over 53
    14) Washington +17.5 & Under 53
    15) Fla Atl +22.5 & Under 61
    16) Nebraska -22.5 & Over 61
    17) Midd Tenn St +18 & Under 47.5
    18) Clemson -18 & Over 47.5
    19) UL Monroe +41.5 & Under 61.5
    20) Texas -41.5 & Over 61.5
    21) W KY +29.5 & Under 44
    22) TEnn -29.5 & Over 44
    23) Utah -20.5 & Over 50 -- Loser 
    24) Utah St +20.5 & Under 50 -- Loser 
    12 total games
    $2400 total for 24 parlays (2 per game) @ $100 per parlay
     
    Running numbers - if you were to finish 8-4 for example wagering $100 per parlay-----
       8 wins x 250 (2.5:1 payout) = +$2000
       8 losses x $100 = -$800
           remember, you can't hit 2 parlays on the same game
               $2000 - $800 = +$1200
     
       4 total losses x $200 (total loss counts as losing both parlays) --     --> -$800
     
    So an 8-4 record would yield +$400
     
     
    0-2 so far...I am sure this will turn around though


     
     
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    Week 1 Plays: $100 per parlay

    Parlay 1) Navy +21.5 and under 46.5
    Parlay 2) Ohio St -21.5 & Over 46.5
    3) Akron +27 & Under 59.5
    4) Penn St -27 & Over 59.5
    5) BYU +22 & Under 66
    6) Oklahoma -22 & over 66
    7) MD +21 & Under 51
    8) California -21 & Over 51
    9) San Jose St +33 & Under 47.5
    10) USC -33 & Over 47.5
    11) San Diego St +19 & Under 48.5
    12) UCLA -19 & Over 48.5
    13) LSU -17.5 & Over 53
    14) Washington +17.5 & Under 53
    15) Fla Atl +22.5 & Under 61
    16) Nebraska -22.5 & Over 61
    17) Midd Tenn St +18 & Under 47.5
    18) Clemson -18 & Over 47.5
    19) UL Monroe +41.5 & Under 61.5
    20) Texas -41.5 & Over 61.5
    21) W KY +29.5 & Under 44
    22) TEnn -29.5 & Over 44
    23) Utah -20.5 & Over 50 -- Loser 
    24) Utah St +20.5 & Under 50 -- Loser 
    12 total games
    $2400 total for 24 parlays (2 per game) @ $100 per parlay
     
    Running numbers - if you were to finish 8-4 for example wagering $100 per parlay-----
       8 wins x 250 (2.5:1 payout) = +$2000
       8 losses x $100 = -$800
           remember, you can't hit 2 parlays on the same game
               $2000 - $800 = +$1200
     
       4 total losses x $200 (total loss counts as losing both parlays) --     --> -$800
     
    So an 8-4 record would yield +$400
     
     
    0-2 so far...I am sure this will turn around though


     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2009 - 2:32 PM ET #3

    For those who don't want to do the math....here is what the payouts look like.  Based on Wagering $100 per parlay.
     
    Accounting the win column as a 1-1 record -- so 1 win = $250, 1 loss = $100 -- difference of +150.  Accounting the loss column for losing both parlays of the same game -$200, which is what happened in the Utah/Utah St game last night. 
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    For those who don't want to do the math....here is what the payouts look like.  Based on Wagering $100 per parlay.
     
    Accounting the win column as a 1-1 record -- so 1 win = $250, 1 loss = $100 -- difference of +150.  Accounting the loss column for losing both parlays of the same game -$200, which is what happened in the Utah/Utah St game last night. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2009 - 2:34 PM ET #4

    W L Result
    1 0 $150
    1 1 -$50
    1 2 -$250
    1 3 -$450
    1 4 -$650
    1 5 -$850
    2 0 $300
    2 1 $100
    2 2 -$100
    2 3 -$300
    2 4 -$500
    2 5 -$700
    3 0 $450
    3 1 $250
    3 2 $50
    3 3 -$150
    3 4 -$350
    3 5 -$550
    4 0 $600
    4 1 $400
    4 2 $200
    4 3 $0
    4 4 -$200
    4 5 -$400
    5 0 $750
    5 1 $550
    5 2 $350
    5 3 $150
    5 4 -$50
    5 5 -$250
    6 0 $900
    6 1 $700
    6 2 $500
    6 3 $300
    6 4 $100
    6 5 -$100
    7 0 $1,050
    7 1 $850
    7 2 $650
    7 3 $450
    7 4 $250
    7 5 $50
    8 0 $1,200
    8 1 $1,000
    8 2 $800
    8 3 $600
    8 4 $400
    8 5 $200
    9 0 $1,350
    9 1 $1,150
    9 2 $950
    9 3 $750
    9 4 $550
    9 5 $350
    10 0 $1,500
    10 1 $1,300
    10 2 $1,100
    10 3 $900
    10 4 $700
    10 5 $500

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    W L Result
    1 0 $150
    1 1 -$50
    1 2 -$250
    1 3 -$450
    1 4 -$650
    1 5 -$850
    2 0 $300
    2 1 $100
    2 2 -$100
    2 3 -$300
    2 4 -$500
    2 5 -$700
    3 0 $450
    3 1 $250
    3 2 $50
    3 3 -$150
    3 4 -$350
    3 5 -$550
    4 0 $600
    4 1 $400
    4 2 $200
    4 3 $0
    4 4 -$200
    4 5 -$400
    5 0 $750
    5 1 $550
    5 2 $350
    5 3 $150
    5 4 -$50
    5 5 -$250
    6 0 $900
    6 1 $700
    6 2 $500
    6 3 $300
    6 4 $100
    6 5 -$100
    7 0 $1,050
    7 1 $850
    7 2 $650
    7 3 $450
    7 4 $250
    7 5 $50
    8 0 $1,200
    8 1 $1,000
    8 2 $800
    8 3 $600
    8 4 $400
    8 5 $200
    9 0 $1,350
    9 1 $1,150
    9 2 $950
    9 3 $750
    9 4 $550
    9 5 $350
    10 0 $1,500
    10 1 $1,300
    10 2 $1,100
    10 3 $900
    10 4 $700
    10 5 $500

     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2009 - 2:46 PM ET #5

    I thought books do not allow this type of wagering?
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    I thought books do not allow this type of wagering?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2009 - 2:51 PM ET #6

    That is a lot of work and wagering to win 500 bucks.
    i'm assuming post #4 is results from last year? It just says results
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    That is a lot of work and wagering to win 500 bucks.
    i'm assuming post #4 is results from last year? It just says results
     
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    No nole, not from last year.  He's showing you what profit you will have with the corresponding record.  If you won 4 and lost 2 you would be up $200 so it looks like this 4 2 $200
    If you win 10 and lost 5  you would still be up $500  -- 10 5 $500
    Get it.....
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    No nole, not from last year.  He's showing you what profit you will have with the corresponding record.  If you won 4 and lost 2 you would be up $200 so it looks like this 4 2 $200
    If you win 10 and lost 5  you would still be up $500  -- 10 5 $500
    Get it.....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2009 - 4:25 PM ET #8

    i used this system like 2 yrs ago and it was money but didnt mess with it last yr ....most  sites wont accept correlated parlays but i also use a local and he did .....its alot of hassle tho every week to look at all the games that would fit into system and be prepared for some weeks where you can lose your ass  
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    i used this system like 2 yrs ago and it was money but didnt mess with it last yr ....most  sites wont accept correlated parlays but i also use a local and he did .....its alot of hassle tho every week to look at all the games that would fit into system and be prepared for some weeks where you can lose your ass  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2009 - 4:59 PM ET #9

      Yeah....the whole correlation thing stinks.  Vegas always has the edge.   I remember last year a gentleman posted that there 1 book that still does, but he did not reveal whom.  I use a local who will take them.  He will take anything.  I will check out the records from last year and post...
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      Yeah....the whole correlation thing stinks.  Vegas always has the edge.   I remember last year a gentleman posted that there 1 book that still does, but he did not reveal whom.  I use a local who will take them.  He will take anything.  I will check out the records from last year and post...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2009 - 11:33 AM ET #10

     
    oh boy....I posted this 2-3 years ago and made some big money in the first few weeks....as did a lot of people on here
     
    we had about 5-6 books who still took it....
      not to sound conceeded or anything but a lot of us went to the same 2 books and they caught on....
    no there is basically no online book who will take it...
     
    I don't know why I didn't think of this last year but am strongly thinking of saving up a little and using 2 local books...
      one to bet the fave+overs
      one to bet the dog+unders
     
    The rule is 33%.....but after doing extensive research (which I don't have anymore ugh....it was all posted on here but I didn't keep a log on my computer -even if i did its long gone and fried)
     
     sorry for rambling there....after doing research I found 40% is the money maker.....
    you want to do it for lines over 40%  -the profit margin jumps through the roof campared to playing the 30% games....
     
     
    I had a system that found even better plays ranging in % but it narrowed down the best winners too....
       maybe I will trakc this with you and see what we can do...
     
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    oh boy....I posted this 2-3 years ago and made some big money in the first few weeks....as did a lot of people on here
     
    we had about 5-6 books who still took it....
      not to sound conceeded or anything but a lot of us went to the same 2 books and they caught on....
    no there is basically no online book who will take it...
     
    I don't know why I didn't think of this last year but am strongly thinking of saving up a little and using 2 local books...
      one to bet the fave+overs
      one to bet the dog+unders
     
    The rule is 33%.....but after doing extensive research (which I don't have anymore ugh....it was all posted on here but I didn't keep a log on my computer -even if i did its long gone and fried)
     
     sorry for rambling there....after doing research I found 40% is the money maker.....
    you want to do it for lines over 40%  -the profit margin jumps through the roof campared to playing the 30% games....
     
     
    I had a system that found even better plays ranging in % but it narrowed down the best winners too....
       maybe I will trakc this with you and see what we can do...
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2009 - 11:41 AM ET #11

    I narrowed it down a little....
    39%
    UCLA  -W
     
    40% and up
    Ohio State -L
    Penn State -L
    Cal            -W
    Utah          -L
     
    60% and up
    USC     -W
    Texas   -L
    Tenn    -W
     
    so I got 4 wins and 4 losses
     
    my local payes 2 team parlays 290 from 110 bet
     
    Still would have lost -160
     
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    I narrowed it down a little....
    39%
    UCLA  -W
     
    40% and up
    Ohio State -L
    Penn State -L
    Cal            -W
    Utah          -L
     
    60% and up
    USC     -W
    Texas   -L
    Tenn    -W
     
    so I got 4 wins and 4 losses
     
    my local payes 2 team parlays 290 from 110 bet
     
    Still would have lost -160
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2009 - 11:50 AM ET #12

    oops....marked Penn State game wrong....
    also I checked with my system of narrowing the games....they all fit under that as well....
     
    I narrowed it down a little....
    39%
    UCLA  -W
     
    40% and up
    Ohio State -L
    Penn State -W
    Cal            -W
    Utah          -L
     
    60% and up
    USC     -W
    Texas   -L
    Tenn    -W
     
    so 5 wins at +180 = 900
    then 3 losses at -220 = -660
     
    $240 profit
     
    big difference than the -160
     
    hmmm....lets see what we have on tap this weekend
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    oops....marked Penn State game wrong....
    also I checked with my system of narrowing the games....they all fit under that as well....
     
    I narrowed it down a little....
    39%
    UCLA  -W
     
    40% and up
    Ohio State -L
    Penn State -W
    Cal            -W
    Utah          -L
     
    60% and up
    USC     -W
    Texas   -L
    Tenn    -W
     
    so 5 wins at +180 = 900
    then 3 losses at -220 = -660
     
    $240 profit
     
    big difference than the -160
     
    hmmm....lets see what we have on tap this weekend
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2009 - 1:16 PM ET #13

    My online book allows you to parlay side 'A' to the over in that same game.
    But, I assume you mean they will not then let you parlay side 'B' to the under in that same game?
     
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    My online book allows you to parlay side 'A' to the over in that same game.
    But, I assume you mean they will not then let you parlay side 'B' to the under in that same game?
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2009 - 1:33 PM ET #14

    Just did a test. I can make two separate parlays on the same game. Tonight's Colorado vs. Toledo.
     
    I did a $1 parlay taking Colorado -3.5 and over 54.5.
    I then did a $1 parlay taking Toledo +3.5 and under 54.5.
     
    Both would pay out 2.6 to 1. Or my $1 would make $2.60.
     
    Is this what you were talking about not being allowed to do?
     
    I know this is not a qualifying game tonight, but I just wanted to do a real test. And it worked for me.
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    Just did a test. I can make two separate parlays on the same game. Tonight's Colorado vs. Toledo.
     
    I did a $1 parlay taking Colorado -3.5 and over 54.5.
    I then did a $1 parlay taking Toledo +3.5 and under 54.5.
     
    Both would pay out 2.6 to 1. Or my $1 would make $2.60.
     
    Is this what you were talking about not being allowed to do?
     
    I know this is not a qualifying game tonight, but I just wanted to do a real test. And it worked for me.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2009 - 2:30 PM ET #15

    I love hearing about a good system from time to time, but obviously its no good unless it has been back tested?  Has anyone tested this over an extended period of time?
     
    Also powerade or whitak, it seems like both of you have extensive experience with this.  What is the rationale why this is a winning strategy?  Why should the favorite and the over logically correlate with each other, and visa versa?
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    I love hearing about a good system from time to time, but obviously its no good unless it has been back tested?  Has anyone tested this over an extended period of time?
     
    Also powerade or whitak, it seems like both of you have extensive experience with this.  What is the rationale why this is a winning strategy?  Why should the favorite and the over logically correlate with each other, and visa versa?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Just did a test. I can make two separate parlays on the same game. Tonight's Colorado vs. Toledo.
     
    I did a $1 parlay taking Colorado -3.5 and over 54.5.
    I then did a $1 parlay taking Toledo +3.5 and under 54.5.
     
    Both would pay out 2.6 to 1. Or my $1 would make $2.60.
     
    Is this what you were talking about not being allowed to do?
     
    I know this is not a qualifying game tonight, but I just wanted to do a real test. And it worked for me.

     

    It will let you make those wagers because that game doesn't qualify. Try a qualifying game and it won't let you.

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    Just did a test. I can make two separate parlays on the same game. Tonight's Colorado vs. Toledo.
     
    I did a $1 parlay taking Colorado -3.5 and over 54.5.
    I then did a $1 parlay taking Toledo +3.5 and under 54.5.
     
    Both would pay out 2.6 to 1. Or my $1 would make $2.60.
     
    Is this what you were talking about not being allowed to do?
     
    I know this is not a qualifying game tonight, but I just wanted to do a real test. And it worked for me.

     

    It will let you make those wagers because that game doesn't qualify. Try a qualifying game and it won't let you.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2009 - 8:59 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by UsaSurfer:

    I love hearing about a good system from time to time, but obviously its no good unless it has been back tested?  Has anyone tested this over an extended period of time?
     
    Also powerade or whitak, it seems like both of you have extensive experience with this.  What is the rationale why this is a winning strategy?  Why should the favorite and the over logically correlate with each other, and visa versa?

    like I said earlier I don't have any of the stats anymore....but it was logged back 2-3 years and made money every year...it was 4-5K based on 100 bets

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    Quote Originally Posted by UsaSurfer:

    I love hearing about a good system from time to time, but obviously its no good unless it has been back tested?  Has anyone tested this over an extended period of time?
     
    Also powerade or whitak, it seems like both of you have extensive experience with this.  What is the rationale why this is a winning strategy?  Why should the favorite and the over logically correlate with each other, and visa versa?

    like I said earlier I don't have any of the stats anymore....but it was logged back 2-3 years and made money every year...it was 4-5K based on 100 bets

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2009 - 11:06 AM ET #18

    looking at this week....actually last week narrowing it down the Texas and Tenn games wouldn't have counted since they were "ADDED GAMES"
     
     so the profit would have been +280
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    looking at this week....actually last week narrowing it down the Texas and Tenn games wouldn't have counted since they were "ADDED GAMES"
     
     so the profit would have been +280
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2009 - 11:52 AM ET #19

    40%-ers
    Northwestern -21  52
    Boston College  -21  45.5
    Texas Tech  -25   65
     
    50%-ers
    Florida -36   61
    Penn State   -28.5   50.5
    Texas   -32   56
     
    70%
    Boise State  -37.5   52.5
     
     
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    40%-ers
    Northwestern -21  52
    Boston College  -21  45.5
    Texas Tech  -25   65
     
    50%-ers
    Florida -36   61
    Penn State   -28.5   50.5
    Texas   -32   56
     
    70%
    Boise State  -37.5   52.5
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2009 - 3:25 PM ET #20

    oops....forgot one....
    44%
    Virginia Tech -19.5   44
     
      looks like a winner so far, didn't play the Northwestern myself because it was 40% on the dot which turned out to be a loss
     
    Penn State game was a winner
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    oops....forgot one....
    44%
    Virginia Tech -19.5   44
     
      looks like a winner so far, didn't play the Northwestern myself because it was 40% on the dot which turned out to be a loss
     
    Penn State game was a winner
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2009 - 4:21 PM ET #21

    Would Auburn -15.5   over 47 be one?  33%  My online book is allowing the parlay
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    Would Auburn -15.5   over 47 be one?  33%  My online book is allowing the parlay
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2009 - 4:27 PM ET #22

        If this begins to work I will certainly give this a shot... What is a good game to test and see if my local will take?? TY
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        If this begins to work I will certainly give this a shot... What is a good game to test and see if my local will take?? TY
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2009 - 4:35 PM ET #23

    What about Boise St at 37.5 and 55??? That is 68%
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    What about Boise St at 37.5 and 55??? That is 68%
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2009 - 4:45 PM ET #24

    I picked that up as a system play as well
     
    I have Boise state -37.5 over 52.5  71%
     
    Penn state and V tech were winners today
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    I picked that up as a system play as well
     
    I have Boise state -37.5 over 52.5  71%
     
    Penn state and V tech were winners today
     
     
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    Tx Tech -28 o/64  44%
    Mizzou -20 o/56.6  35%  (I think the new system is over 40% now)
    Alabama -33.5 o/50.5 66%
    S. fla -24.5 o/51  48%
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    Tx Tech -28 o/64  44%
    Mizzou -20 o/56.6  35%  (I think the new system is over 40% now)
    Alabama -33.5 o/50.5 66%
    S. fla -24.5 o/51  48%
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