Air1 this is great! Curious you think it would be better to start a chase after 5 straight ats wins or losses vs. 6 games? Only because we are only getting 230 or so plays?
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Air1 this is great! Curious you think it would be better to start a chase after 5 straight ats wins or losses vs. 6 games? Only because we are only getting 230 or so plays?
By any chance for any of your systems do you have the ATS record w/out the chase? Like if you just played each game individually w/ no chase and just stopped when they won your parameters? Thank you
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By any chance for any of your systems do you have the ATS record w/out the chase? Like if you just played each game individually w/ no chase and just stopped when they won your parameters? Thank you
If system 6 was a 4 game chase for a win on teams that have lost 6 in a row. the record would be 111-1. +92.55 Units...... 1 L in a 4 game chase with -110 odds is 18.45 units.
@ stick - I wouldnt go any lower than 6 games ats. i barely did any research on 5 games and the numbers did not look good.
@ shibs - nothing popped out at me, except the D game after a minimum of 6 L's ats in a row which went 65-40. The rest are close to 50%
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If system 6 was a 4 game chase for a win on teams that have lost 6 in a row. the record would be 111-1. +92.55 Units...... 1 L in a 4 game chase with -110 odds is 18.45 units.
@ stick - I wouldnt go any lower than 6 games ats. i barely did any research on 5 games and the numbers did not look good.
@ shibs - nothing popped out at me, except the D game after a minimum of 6 L's ats in a row which went 65-40. The rest are close to 50%
I never understand ppl. Who cares how little plays there are over the season, there's still over 100 to play!! Even with just as little as 100/play you wind up with almost 10,000 bones over the course of the season. Plus as the season progresses you can increase your units.
Stupid.
That being said, I just wanna clarify all this buying point nonsense. Sometimes its 2, other times 3?? I don't like buying points. I like straight bets. And what's more important? Opening or closing lines? I laid off NYK last night and got burnt bc of it but wanted to be 100% sure before I started tailing. :)
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I never understand ppl. Who cares how little plays there are over the season, there's still over 100 to play!! Even with just as little as 100/play you wind up with almost 10,000 bones over the course of the season. Plus as the season progresses you can increase your units.
Stupid.
That being said, I just wanna clarify all this buying point nonsense. Sometimes its 2, other times 3?? I don't like buying points. I like straight bets. And what's more important? Opening or closing lines? I laid off NYK last night and got burnt bc of it but wanted to be 100% sure before I started tailing. :)
Air...can you help explain the exact difference between system 1 & 2? u are waiting for at least 6 wins ats in either system ...then the loss happens (ats) then sys 1 says 3 gm chase for another loss, but sys 2 says if 'a' game is a win chase for another win? Ats??
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Air...can you help explain the exact difference between system 1 & 2? u are waiting for at least 6 wins ats in either system ...then the loss happens (ats) then sys 1 says 3 gm chase for another loss, but sys 2 says if 'a' game is a win chase for another win? Ats??
i know you've been getting a lot of questions, but have you tried college BBall with this? the sample size might be way too much to sort through, so maybe just do certain conferences?
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i know you've been getting a lot of questions, but have you tried college BBall with this? the sample size might be way too much to sort through, so maybe just do certain conferences?
I never understand ppl. Who cares how little plays there are over the season, there's still over 100 to play!! Even with just as little as 100/play you wind up with almost 10,000 bones over the course of the season. Plus as the season progresses you can increase your units.
Stupid.
That being said, I just wanna clarify all this buying point nonsense. Sometimes its 2, other times 3?? I don't like buying points. I like straight bets. And what's more important? Opening or closing lines? I laid off NYK last night and got burnt bc of it but wanted to be 100% sure before I started tailing. :)
Since this is a chase I wouldnt really increase my unit size too much.
Buying at least 2 pts for system 1 is helpful when fading. I looked into all the systems and tried to see if buying pts would help and posted records for BOTH with buying pts and without!
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Quote Originally Posted by The__Man:
I never understand ppl. Who cares how little plays there are over the season, there's still over 100 to play!! Even with just as little as 100/play you wind up with almost 10,000 bones over the course of the season. Plus as the season progresses you can increase your units.
Stupid.
That being said, I just wanna clarify all this buying point nonsense. Sometimes its 2, other times 3?? I don't like buying points. I like straight bets. And what's more important? Opening or closing lines? I laid off NYK last night and got burnt bc of it but wanted to be 100% sure before I started tailing. :)
Since this is a chase I wouldnt really increase my unit size too much.
Buying at least 2 pts for system 1 is helpful when fading. I looked into all the systems and tried to see if buying pts would help and posted records for BOTH with buying pts and without!
Air...can you help explain the exact difference between system 1 & 2? u are waiting for at least 6 wins ats in either system ...then the loss happens (ats) then sys 1 says 3 gm chase for another loss, but sys 2 says if 'a' game is a win chase for another win? Ats??
System 1 is a play no matter what. System 2 is a play only if the team we are fading wins their A game. Then you can complete system #1 and if system #1 hits the B game you can bang out system #2 in a 2 game chase. I played both systems at the same time even though i am betting against myself.
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Quote Originally Posted by stickbit:
Air...can you help explain the exact difference between system 1 & 2? u are waiting for at least 6 wins ats in either system ...then the loss happens (ats) then sys 1 says 3 gm chase for another loss, but sys 2 says if 'a' game is a win chase for another win? Ats??
System 1 is a play no matter what. System 2 is a play only if the team we are fading wins their A game. Then you can complete system #1 and if system #1 hits the B game you can bang out system #2 in a 2 game chase. I played both systems at the same time even though i am betting against myself.
@ Coverlane - Bobcats fell under systems 3,5 & 6 once this season. Won every one! I am trying to get into the minds of the lines-makers, not just how well the team plays.
@Clean -
@ poket - I haven't even thought about NCAABB. These systems might work or might not. But if someone wants to try it then They can go ahead. Also I believe you would be right about only certain conferences. lines-makers can't keep up with the entire ncaa in depth.
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@ Coverlane - Bobcats fell under systems 3,5 & 6 once this season. Won every one! I am trying to get into the minds of the lines-makers, not just how well the team plays.
@Clean -
@ poket - I haven't even thought about NCAABB. These systems might work or might not. But if someone wants to try it then They can go ahead. Also I believe you would be right about only certain conferences. lines-makers can't keep up with the entire ncaa in depth.
There are 6 systems that I posted here. if each one gets 15 plays a season your total is 90 plays for the season. I am happy with that amount.
yes totally get that...my response before was to 'The Man'...i was solely talking about how to possibly improving on the amount of games for that one system. not sure he understood that record was for many seasons and not just one.
thanks for the answers air! some great stuff in here.
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Quote Originally Posted by Air1:
There are 6 systems that I posted here. if each one gets 15 plays a season your total is 90 plays for the season. I am happy with that amount.
yes totally get that...my response before was to 'The Man'...i was solely talking about how to possibly improving on the amount of games for that one system. not sure he understood that record was for many seasons and not just one.
thanks for the answers air! some great stuff in here.
Air - can you clarify something on System 2: you mention the system activates if the streaking team wins their 'A' game - do mean you mean straight up or ATS? thanks.
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Air - can you clarify something on System 2: you mention the system activates if the streaking team wins their 'A' game - do mean you mean straight up or ATS? thanks.
System #5: on Indy to win: waiting for D game vs NoH. System #3: 2 game chase on indy to win System #6: 3 game chase for philly to win ats System #1: 2 game fade chase on MIA System #2: 3 game chase for MIA to win ATS Bos lost 5 in a row ats Phi lost 6 in a row ats NoH won 6 in a row ats
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System #5: on Indy to win: waiting for D game vs NoH. System #3: 2 game chase on indy to win System #6: 3 game chase for philly to win ats System #1: 2 game fade chase on MIA System #2: 3 game chase for MIA to win ATS Bos lost 5 in a row ats Phi lost 6 in a row ats NoH won 6 in a row ats
System #6 IS NOT IN EFFECT I don't see a point in risking so many units in a 4 game chase. I prefer not using more than a 3 game chase ats. SO WAIT FOR Phi to lose 1 more time ats before starting the chase for them to win.
Also I know that it's weird/stupid/bad gambling habit to bet on a team to win and lose, but unfortunately system #1 and #2 are just situated as such.
Anyone who want could play both systems. Or you can just play the one you are more comfortable with.
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System #6 IS NOT IN EFFECT I don't see a point in risking so many units in a 4 game chase. I prefer not using more than a 3 game chase ats. SO WAIT FOR Phi to lose 1 more time ats before starting the chase for them to win.
Also I know that it's weird/stupid/bad gambling habit to bet on a team to win and lose, but unfortunately system #1 and #2 are just situated as such.
Anyone who want could play both systems. Or you can just play the one you are more comfortable with.
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