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    NBA - Betting the bottom 3 or 4 totals on the board

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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2009 - 3:34 AM ET #1

    Just checked out the totals in the early going.

    Results of betting the UNDER on the 3 lowest totals on the board:

    OCT 27 - 2-1
    OCT 28 - 2-1
    OCT 29 - DNQ
    OCT 30 - 2-1
    OCT 31 - 2-1
    NOV 1  - 3-0

    Total so far: 11-4

    Results of betting the UNDER on the 4 lowest totals on the board (min 4 games)

    Bottom 4

    OCT 27 - 3-1
    OCT 28 - 4-1 (two at 194)
    OCT 29 - DNQ
    OCT 30 - 3-1
    OCT 31 - 2-2
    NOV 1  - 3-1

    Total: 15-6

    Obviously it's early and teams are trying to find their groove, but still intriguing to track nonetheless.  5 games tonight, let's see how it fares.



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    Just checked out the totals in the early going.

    Results of betting the UNDER on the 3 lowest totals on the board:

    OCT 27 - 2-1
    OCT 28 - 2-1
    OCT 29 - DNQ
    OCT 30 - 2-1
    OCT 31 - 2-1
    NOV 1  - 3-0

    Total so far: 11-4

    Results of betting the UNDER on the 4 lowest totals on the board (min 4 games)

    Bottom 4

    OCT 27 - 3-1
    OCT 28 - 4-1 (two at 194)
    OCT 29 - DNQ
    OCT 30 - 3-1
    OCT 31 - 2-2
    NOV 1  - 3-1

    Total: 15-6

    Obviously it's early and teams are trying to find their groove, but still intriguing to track nonetheless.  5 games tonight, let's see how it fares.



     
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    Posted: Nov. 2, 2009 - 4:07 PM ET #2

    this is interesting, have u checked it against prior seasons?
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    this is interesting, have u checked it against prior seasons?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 1:20 AM ET #3

    I wish I had time for that.  Just checking it out on this season.

    Tonight:

    Bottom 3 - 2-1

    Bottom 4 - 2-2

    Totals so far:

    3: 13-5
    4: 17-8
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    I wish I had time for that.  Just checking it out on this season.

    Tonight:

    Bottom 3 - 2-1

    Bottom 4 - 2-2

    Totals so far:

    3: 13-5
    4: 17-8
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 3:49 PM ET #4

    closing line or opening line?
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2009 - 6:00 PM ET #5

    Covers have data for last 3 seasons. You should make a backtest because it may be 50-50 in past.
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    Covers have data for last 3 seasons. You should make a backtest because it may be 50-50 in past.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 12:48 AM ET #6

    Hey Pac, I take the the closing lines on the NBA scoreboard page here at Covers.

    Josh I wish I had time, honestly.  I'm just following this for shits and giggles really.

    Updated:

    Bottom 3 tonight: 3-0

    Bottom 4 tonight: 4-0

    Wow great night.

    Totals so far this season:

    Bottom 3: 16 - 5
    Bottom 4: 21 - 8




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    Hey Pac, I take the the closing lines on the NBA scoreboard page here at Covers.

    Josh I wish I had time, honestly.  I'm just following this for shits and giggles really.

    Updated:

    Bottom 3 tonight: 3-0

    Bottom 4 tonight: 4-0

    Wow great night.

    Totals so far this season:

    Bottom 3: 16 - 5
    Bottom 4: 21 - 8




     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 1:39 AM ET #7



    I've been tracking first half and second half totals and this is much easier.

    I wonder how long before it turns the other way

    I will follow it and see. 
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    I've been tracking first half and second half totals and this is much easier.

    I wonder how long before it turns the other way

    I will follow it and see. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 2:12 AM ET #8

    Looked at last years stats- only went until Dec

    Over/Under for the bottom totals was approx.

    70overs/ 83 unders

    The first 72 bottom totals was an even

    36-36...

    So, it doesn't seem to have any value except there is currently an under trend.

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    Looked at last years stats- only went until Dec

    Over/Under for the bottom totals was approx.

    70overs/ 83 unders

    The first 72 bottom totals was an even

    36-36...

    So, it doesn't seem to have any value except there is currently an under trend.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 2:31 AM ET #9

    Ya it just a matter of time before the books adjust or shooters shake off the early season rust.

    We better cash in while we can!
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    Ya it just a matter of time before the books adjust or shooters shake off the early season rust.

    We better cash in while we can!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 2:33 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by hard8:

    Looked at last years stats- only went until Dec

    Over/Under for the bottom totals was approx.

    70overs/ 83 unders

    The first 72 bottom totals was an even

    36-36...

    So, it doesn't seem to have any value except there is currently an under trend.



    Did you check the bottom 3 and 4 each night that had a min. of 4 games that night?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hard8:

    Looked at last years stats- only went until Dec

    Over/Under for the bottom totals was approx.

    70overs/ 83 unders

    The first 72 bottom totals was an even

    36-36...

    So, it doesn't seem to have any value except there is currently an under trend.



    Did you check the bottom 3 and 4 each night that had a min. of 4 games that night?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 6:42 AM ET #11

    Sure we better cash it when we can. I am confusing. Can you explain for me what is the bottom 3 (lowest total) ? and bottom 4(lowest total)? Thanks.
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    Sure we better cash it when we can. I am confusing. Can you explain for me what is the bottom 3 (lowest total) ? and bottom 4(lowest total)? Thanks.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamboo08:

    Sure we better cash it when we can. I am confusing. Can you explain for me what is the bottom 3 (lowest total) ? and bottom 4(lowest total)? Thanks.


    Sure Bamboo.

    Say you have 8 games on the schedule.  The totals are:

    189
    194.5
    199
    209
    185
    219
    225
    190

    You would bet the UNDER on the 4 lowest totals on the board which would be: 185, 189, 190 and 194.5.  The assumption is these are the lowest totals on the board for a reason.  That's it.  So far it's going well.


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    Sure we better cash it when we can. I am confusing. Can you explain for me what is the bottom 3 (lowest total) ? and bottom 4(lowest total)? Thanks.


    Sure Bamboo.

    Say you have 8 games on the schedule.  The totals are:

    189
    194.5
    199
    209
    185
    219
    225
    190

    You would bet the UNDER on the 4 lowest totals on the board which would be: 185, 189, 190 and 194.5.  The assumption is these are the lowest totals on the board for a reason.  That's it.  So far it's going well.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 1:40 PM ET #13

    Thanks, VIG. Apppreciate it.  Goodluck tonight.
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    Thanks, VIG. Apppreciate it.  Goodluck tonight.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 10:50 PM ET #14

    nice work vig. hey any idea if it works the same way the other way...meaning 3 highest totals over? and 4?
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    nice work vig. hey any idea if it works the same way the other way...meaning 3 highest totals over? and 4?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 11:03 PM ET #15

    with this system do you use the opening total or close total right before gametime?
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2009 - 11:05 PM ET #16

    Well for now I just looked at the scores dating back to the first game of this season.  I assume that is the closing line on Scores scoreboard.  If the DAL-NO hits under it will be 3-1 for 4 games and 2-1 for 3 games.  Let's see what happens!
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    Well for now I just looked at the scores dating back to the first game of this season.  I assume that is the closing line on Scores scoreboard.  If the DAL-NO hits under it will be 3-1 for 4 games and 2-1 for 3 games.  Let's see what happens!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerfacedjoker:

    nice work vig. hey any idea if it works the same way the other way...meaning 3 highest totals over? and 4?


    Over was a no go...if anything it was a slight loser or .500 at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerfacedjoker:

    nice work vig. hey any idea if it works the same way the other way...meaning 3 highest totals over? and 4?


    Over was a no go...if anything it was a slight loser or .500 at best.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2009 - 12:31 AM ET #18

    Bottom 3: 1-2
    Bottom 4: 2-2

    First losing night for bottom 3.  How ironic now that I have brought attention to it.

    Total:

    3: 17-7
    4:  23-10
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    Bottom 3: 1-2
    Bottom 4: 2-2

    First losing night for bottom 3.  How ironic now that I have brought attention to it.

    Total:

    3: 17-7
    4:  23-10
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2009 - 1:23 AM ET #19

    Hope tomorrow will be a better result like 2-1 or 3-1. Thanks
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    Hope tomorrow will be a better result like 2-1 or 3-1. Thanks
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_vig:



    Did you check the bottom 3 and 4 each night that had a min. of 4 games that night?


    Actually, there were so many games and it was taking a long time to look for the bottom 3 and bottom 4, that I started looking at all over/unders in the 180s. 

    So, the 2nd half of the results were for games over/under in the 180s.


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    Did you check the bottom 3 and 4 each night that had a min. of 4 games that night?


    Actually, there were so many games and it was taking a long time to look for the bottom 3 and bottom 4, that I started looking at all over/unders in the 180s. 

    So, the 2nd half of the results were for games over/under in the 180s.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 1:53 PM ET #21

    Last night:

    Bottom 3: 2-1
    Borrom 4: 2-2

    Bottom 3: 18-6
    Bottom 4: 23-10
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    Bottom 3: 2-1
    Borrom 4: 2-2

    Bottom 3: 18-6
    Bottom 4: 23-10
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2009 - 12:52 AM ET #22

    Tonight:

    Bottom 3: 2-1 (BOS@NJ , NY-MIL , CHA-CHI )
    Bottom 4: 2-2 (BOS@NJ , NY-MIL , CHA-CHI , MEM-LAC )

    Updated Totals:

    Bottom 3: 20-7
    Bottom 4: 25-12

    Bottom 3 looking like the better choice so far.
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    Tonight:

    Bottom 3: 2-1 (BOS@NJ , NY-MIL , CHA-CHI )
    Bottom 4: 2-2 (BOS@NJ , NY-MIL , CHA-CHI , MEM-LAC )

    Updated Totals:

    Bottom 3: 20-7
    Bottom 4: 25-12

    Bottom 3 looking like the better choice so far.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2009 - 1:07 AM ET #23

    Sunday night results:

    Bottom 3: 2-1 (MIN@POR , PHI@DET, ORL@OKC )

    Bottom 4: 3-1 (MIN@POR , PHI@DET, ORL@OKC, NO@LAL )

    Good night for Bottom 4 and Bottom 3 keeps chugging along doing it's thing.  Updated totals so far:

    Bottom 3: 22-8 @ 73%
    Bottom 4: 28-13 @ 69%



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    Sunday night results:

    Bottom 3: 2-1 (MIN@POR , PHI@DET, ORL@OKC )

    Bottom 4: 3-1 (MIN@POR , PHI@DET, ORL@OKC, NO@LAL )

    Good night for Bottom 4 and Bottom 3 keeps chugging along doing it's thing.  Updated totals so far:

    Bottom 3: 22-8 @ 73%
    Bottom 4: 28-13 @ 69%



     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 12:46 AM ET #24

    Bad night: 5 games and 4 overs...was due to happen...FIRST bad night in 2 weeks...not bad.

    Bottom 3: 1-2
    Bottom 4: 1-3

    Updated totals:

    Bottom 3: 23-10 @ 70%
    Bottom 4: 29-16 @ 64%
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    Bad night: 5 games and 4 overs...was due to happen...FIRST bad night in 2 weeks...not bad.

    Bottom 3: 1-2
    Bottom 4: 1-3

    Updated totals:

    Bottom 3: 23-10 @ 70%
    Bottom 4: 29-16 @ 64%
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2009 - 12:56 PM ET #25

    Plays tonight:

    Bottom 3: ORL@CHA Under 185.5
                   WAS@MIA Under 187.5
                   OKC@SAC Under 200

    Bottom 4: HOU@DAL Under 200.5
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    Plays tonight:

    Bottom 3: ORL@CHA Under 185.5
                   WAS@MIA Under 187.5
                   OKC@SAC Under 200

    Bottom 4: HOU@DAL Under 200.5
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