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    My nhl and nba system experiance

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    dantepaniccia
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 4:20 PM ET #1

    Hi everyone.
    let me start by saying this is not my system.
    i am using the jm system posted on these boards
    i am gloing to be doing both hockey and basketball(NBA)
    i will be using the labing way of betting
    and will start with 25 dollar lines so it will look like this 25-25-25-25
    i hope this helps anyone who has questions about the system and gives them a idea of how to bet it
    and i hope that anyone that has any advice for me or see that i am doing something wrong will let me know...
    thanks everyone!!!!!
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    Hi everyone.
    let me start by saying this is not my system.
    i am using the jm system posted on these boards
    i am gloing to be doing both hockey and basketball(NBA)
    i will be using the labing way of betting
    and will start with 25 dollar lines so it will look like this 25-25-25-25
    i hope this helps anyone who has questions about the system and gives them a idea of how to bet it
    and i hope that anyone that has any advice for me or see that i am doing something wrong will let me know...
    thanks everyone!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 4:32 PM ET #2

    ok....lines look like this for start of system

    NHL                                      NBA
    gm1- 25-25-25-25           25-25-25-25
    gm2- 25-25-25-25           25-25-25-25
    gm3- 25-25-25-25           25-25-25-25


    last night Thursday Nov 5 was the first day i used the system.
    and my plays were as follows
    NHL
    Nashville A game +1.5 -205 ($102.5 to win $50)
    Pittsburg A game  +1.5 -290 ($145 to win $50)
    Vancouver A game +1.5 -290 ($145 to win $50)

    so at the end of the night on my first day i am -$197.5
    and now i will go after Pitt and Nash on Nov 7 as a B game for each. so now my lines will look like this or NHL(note i am using a modded labing method)

    gm1- 25-25-51-78
    gm2- 25-25-25-25-51-78
    gm3- 25-25-25-25
    (for the more experianced player out there, please help and clarify,does this line arrangment look right?)



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    ok....lines look like this for start of system

    NHL                                      NBA
    gm1- 25-25-25-25           25-25-25-25
    gm2- 25-25-25-25           25-25-25-25
    gm3- 25-25-25-25           25-25-25-25


    last night Thursday Nov 5 was the first day i used the system.
    and my plays were as follows
    NHL
    Nashville A game +1.5 -205 ($102.5 to win $50)
    Pittsburg A game  +1.5 -290 ($145 to win $50)
    Vancouver A game +1.5 -290 ($145 to win $50)

    so at the end of the night on my first day i am -$197.5
    and now i will go after Pitt and Nash on Nov 7 as a B game for each. so now my lines will look like this or NHL(note i am using a modded labing method)

    gm1- 25-25-51-78
    gm2- 25-25-25-25-51-78
    gm3- 25-25-25-25
    (for the more experianced player out there, please help and clarify,does this line arrangment look right?)



     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 4:36 PM ET #3

    sorry everyone i made a mistake on my lines for NHL they will look like this now

    gm1- 25-25-51-73
    gm2- 25-25-25-25-51-73
    gm3- 25-25-25-25
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    sorry everyone i made a mistake on my lines for NHL they will look like this now

    gm1- 25-25-51-73
    gm2- 25-25-25-25-51-73
    gm3- 25-25-25-25
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 4:40 PM ET #4

    ok ok for Friday November 6
    i will be starting my first NBA play
    my NBA line looks as follows

    gm1- 25-25-25-25
    gm2- 25-25-25-25
    gm3- 25-25-25-25

    and my first play will be the Toronto Raptors (yeah home town team ha ha) 

    Tor +7 (note all nba games i will buy 2 points, i know it is supposed to be 3 but my book doesnt offer 3, if anyone can buy 3 i recomend doing so) it will cost me $81 to win $50

    that is all the plays for tonight.
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    ok ok for Friday November 6
    i will be starting my first NBA play
    my NBA line looks as follows

    gm1- 25-25-25-25
    gm2- 25-25-25-25
    gm3- 25-25-25-25

    and my first play will be the Toronto Raptors (yeah home town team ha ha) 

    Tor +7 (note all nba games i will buy 2 points, i know it is supposed to be 3 but my book doesnt offer 3, if anyone can buy 3 i recomend doing so) it will cost me $81 to win $50

    that is all the plays for tonight.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 6:04 PM ET #5

    I think it's better too keep NBA and NHL on seperate labbey lines and not put them together.  NBA system is proven and NHL system hasn't been around for very long.

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    I think it's better too keep NBA and NHL on seperate labbey lines and not put them together.  NBA system is proven and NHL system hasn't been around for very long.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 7:00 PM ET #6

    Of course the second post of the thread has 2 separate sets of lines, one for NHL and one for NBA
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    Of course the second post of the thread has 2 separate sets of lines, one for NHL and one for NBA
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 7:05 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff_Kent:

    Of course the second post of the thread has 2 separate sets of lines, one for NHL and one for NBA

     

    I just glanced at this and didn't look at all the posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff_Kent:

    Of course the second post of the thread has 2 separate sets of lines, one for NHL and one for NBA

     

    I just glanced at this and didn't look at all the posts.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 7:14 PM ET #8

    I'll be following your posts to see how you do.  I am new to this and want see it in action.

    Mahalos
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    I'll be following your posts to see how you do.  I am new to this and want see it in action.

    Mahalos
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 7:15 PM ET #9

    what sportsbooks offer buying 2 or 3 points on a spread for nba? i have never seen one...you can buy the half point..thats it
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    what sportsbooks offer buying 2 or 3 points on a spread for nba? i have never seen one...you can buy the half point..thats it
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 7:45 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by papagunnz:

    what sportsbooks offer buying 2 or 3 points on a spread for nba? i have never seen one...you can buy the half point..thats it




    im not to familiar with alot of books out there...so i couldnt tell you...i bet local off a website...and they allow me to take 2 points...for a price of course!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by papagunnz:

    what sportsbooks offer buying 2 or 3 points on a spread for nba? i have never seen one...you can buy the half point..thats it




    im not to familiar with alot of books out there...so i couldnt tell you...i bet local off a website...and they allow me to take 2 points...for a price of course!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 8:39 PM ET #11

    if its for non US players then i can see that...
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    if its for non US players then i can see that...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2009 - 10:42 PM ET #12

    ok good night tonight

    i had the Raptors +7 that would be a A win

    so my updated lines would look like this for the NBA

    gm1- x-25-25-x
    gm2- 25-25-25-25
    gm3- 25-25-25-25


    so to update
    NHL- A wins-1
             B wins-pending
             C wins-pending
    NBA- A wins-1
             B wins-not needed
             C wins-not needed

    Total $ won $100
    Total $ loss $247.5
    Total $ -$147.5


    No plays for the NBA till Nov 9 (cause the raptors are now off the system play with the win)

    and i will post all NHL plays and dollar amounts on plays tommorow
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    ok good night tonight

    i had the Raptors +7 that would be a A win

    so my updated lines would look like this for the NBA

    gm1- x-25-25-x
    gm2- 25-25-25-25
    gm3- 25-25-25-25


    so to update
    NHL- A wins-1
             B wins-pending
             C wins-pending
    NBA- A wins-1
             B wins-not needed
             C wins-not needed

    Total $ won $100
    Total $ loss $247.5
    Total $ -$147.5


    No plays for the NBA till Nov 9 (cause the raptors are now off the system play with the win)

    and i will post all NHL plays and dollar amounts on plays tommorow
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 1:50 PM ET #13

    Ok 3 NHL plays today

    first -Nashville (gm 2) +1.5 at  -156  risking 156 to win 100 because the line for gm 2 looks like 25-25-25-25-51-73

    second- Pittsburgh (gm2) +1.5 (no line or bet yet as i will use the result of the Nashville game to get a proper labing line)

    third- Dallas (gm1) +1.5 (i will use my gm 1 line on this bet which looks like 25-25-51-73, but will bet later to see if line moves at all)
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    Ok 3 NHL plays today

    first -Nashville (gm 2) +1.5 at  -156  risking 156 to win 100 because the line for gm 2 looks like 25-25-25-25-51-73

    second- Pittsburgh (gm2) +1.5 (no line or bet yet as i will use the result of the Nashville game to get a proper labing line)

    third- Dallas (gm1) +1.5 (i will use my gm 1 line on this bet which looks like 25-25-51-73, but will bet later to see if line moves at all)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 1:54 PM ET #14

    Here is a question to all the people with experiance in using the lab betting system. How do you get around the high juice used in most NHL games for taking +1.5 it looks as though using the modified betting line it would be hard to make back your losses...will experiment with this more but any advice would be awsome. thanks!!!
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    Here is a question to all the people with experiance in using the lab betting system. How do you get around the high juice used in most NHL games for taking +1.5 it looks as though using the modified betting line it would be hard to make back your losses...will experiment with this more but any advice would be awsome. thanks!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 6:35 PM ET #15

    Ok
    Nashville wins the B bet for me +156- $156 to win $100
    so now Nashville is off my list and the updated NHL lines look like

    gm1- 25-25-51-78
    gm2- 25-25-25-51
    gm3- 25-25-25-25

    for 8 pm i will be taking Dallas as a gm1 bet at -277(i know i hate big juice on these +1.5) but it will be $277 to win $100

    and for the late game we have Pittsburgh +1.5 and will be using a gm 2 bet but will be seeing what Dallas does first so lines will adjust accordingly
     
    as of now i stand at -$47  and i am officially 3-0 in system plays

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    Ok
    Nashville wins the B bet for me +156- $156 to win $100
    so now Nashville is off my list and the updated NHL lines look like

    gm1- 25-25-51-78
    gm2- 25-25-25-51
    gm3- 25-25-25-25

    for 8 pm i will be taking Dallas as a gm1 bet at -277(i know i hate big juice on these +1.5) but it will be $277 to win $100

    and for the late game we have Pittsburgh +1.5 and will be using a gm 2 bet but will be seeing what Dallas does first so lines will adjust accordingly
     
    as of now i stand at -$47  and i am officially 3-0 in system plays

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 6:38 PM ET #16

    Also note i will be doing the JM NFL system and tommorow will be

    Giants ML gm1 bet
    Bucs +10 or +10.5 havent decided yet Gm1 bet
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    Also note i will be doing the JM NFL system and tommorow will be

    Giants ML gm1 bet
    Bucs +10 or +10.5 havent decided yet Gm1 bet
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 7:26 PM ET #17

    very nice 
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    very nice 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 8:18 PM ET #18

    Dante, regarding your NHL lines: because 3 games went on the same night for you, you could have taken the sum of all three games and applied it to your lines as one number if you want to recover faster. Of course your wager amounts will jump up faster and higher too.

    You had +50, -103, -145. That comes to -198 (call it -200 for math's sake). You could then divide that by two and add it the end of your A and B lines or divide it by two and add it to the last number in your A and B lines.

    So:

    25-25-25-25-100 A  25-25-25-25-100 B   or

    25-25-25-125 A  25-25-25-125  B

    There is nothing wrong with the way you have it above. Just giving you another option that might be easier to calculate.

    And no matter what you do, running lab. lines take some time to recover losses when compared to the way JM would have you bet (martingale) where you are trying to recover your entire loss on your B bet plus profit.

    Keep in mind the season is long and you need to be patient. 1-2 C losses doing it JM's way could break you. 1-2 C losses doing lab lines will not break you.  That is the trade off for the slower recovery, you preserve your bankroll in the event of 1 or more C losses.

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    Dante, regarding your NHL lines: because 3 games went on the same night for you, you could have taken the sum of all three games and applied it to your lines as one number if you want to recover faster. Of course your wager amounts will jump up faster and higher too.

    You had +50, -103, -145. That comes to -198 (call it -200 for math's sake). You could then divide that by two and add it the end of your A and B lines or divide it by two and add it to the last number in your A and B lines.

    So:

    25-25-25-25-100 A  25-25-25-25-100 B   or

    25-25-25-125 A  25-25-25-125  B

    There is nothing wrong with the way you have it above. Just giving you another option that might be easier to calculate.

    And no matter what you do, running lab. lines take some time to recover losses when compared to the way JM would have you bet (martingale) where you are trying to recover your entire loss on your B bet plus profit.

    Keep in mind the season is long and you need to be patient. 1-2 C losses doing it JM's way could break you. 1-2 C losses doing lab lines will not break you.  That is the trade off for the slower recovery, you preserve your bankroll in the event of 1 or more C losses.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 8:19 PM ET #19

    Also, where did you get Pitt for a B game. I did not have them as an A, let alone a B.

    I could have missed them, or maybe you are running a different system.

     

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    Also, where did you get Pitt for a B game. I did not have them as an A, let alone a B.

    I could have missed them, or maybe you are running a different system.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 8:31 PM ET #20

    I got it now, you missed the Pitt A win last week vs Anaheim.

    You came in and bet the B game as your A and lost against LA. You are now betting a B vs SJ. This would be a C if the A game had lost, but it did not.

    This series is really over if you look at it from the system's standpoint, and you are out on a limb here. At least you are on a good team tonight.

    In the future, if you miss an A wager in a series for whatever reason, and it wins without you, you are rolling the dice if you then take the next games, b/c you won't always have a 4th game in the road trip for you to have your C game to chase to.

    PLUS, more games are won on the A and B games (like 9/10), as teams are fresher at the beginning of their road trip.

    GL.

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    I got it now, you missed the Pitt A win last week vs Anaheim.

    You came in and bet the B game as your A and lost against LA. You are now betting a B vs SJ. This would be a C if the A game had lost, but it did not.

    This series is really over if you look at it from the system's standpoint, and you are out on a limb here. At least you are on a good team tonight.

    In the future, if you miss an A wager in a series for whatever reason, and it wins without you, you are rolling the dice if you then take the next games, b/c you won't always have a 4th game in the road trip for you to have your C game to chase to.

    PLUS, more games are won on the A and B games (like 9/10), as teams are fresher at the beginning of their road trip.

    GL.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 8:39 PM ET #21

    thanks sooo much for your advice.

    and yeah i kinda went about the Pitt game the wrong way\
    lets hope it all goes well tonight

    this site is awsome and helpfull with such great guys thanks alot
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    thanks sooo much for your advice.

    and yeah i kinda went about the Pitt game the wrong way\
    lets hope it all goes well tonight

    this site is awsome and helpfull with such great guys thanks alot
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2009 - 10:39 PM ET #22

    Caught the Dallas on gm1 what a game

    Dallas -277 $277 to win $100

    so my new NHL lines look like this

    gm1- 25-51
    gm2- 25-25-25-51
    gm3- 25-25-25-25

    and i have Pittsburgh -209 $165 to win $80

    and that puts my total to 4-0 and a profit of $63 (but my big losses are almost off the board which helps alot)
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    Caught the Dallas on gm1 what a game

    Dallas -277 $277 to win $100

    so my new NHL lines look like this

    gm1- 25-51
    gm2- 25-25-25-51
    gm3- 25-25-25-25

    and i have Pittsburgh -209 $165 to win $80

    and that puts my total to 4-0 and a profit of $63 (but my big losses are almost off the board which helps alot)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2009 - 10:55 AM ET #23

    lost on Pittsburgh last night

    Pittsburgh -209 $165 to win $80

    and i found out last night from nolemonasses that Pittsburgh was not a system play. So i decided that i will not chase them in the gm3 and i will accept the loss.

    so i am now at -$100
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    lost on Pittsburgh last night

    Pittsburgh -209 $165 to win $80

    and i found out last night from nolemonasses that Pittsburgh was not a system play. So i decided that i will not chase them in the gm3 and i will accept the loss.

    so i am now at -$100
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2009 - 10:59 AM ET #24

    Just to clarify dante, it was a system play, but you missed the A game.

    GL to you on future series.

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    Just to clarify dante, it was a system play, but you missed the A game.

    GL to you on future series.

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2009 - 11:04 AM ET #25

    Yeah i know i realized that after your post.. i missed the boat ahaha

    well for today so far i am taking

    Tampa Bay +10.5(bought 1 point) -130 $65 to win $50

    and NFL line looks like this

    gm1- 25-25-25-25
    gm2- 25-25-25-25
    gm3- 25-25-25-25

    the Giants are also a system play but i will wait till game time to make the bet
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    Yeah i know i realized that after your post.. i missed the boat ahaha

    well for today so far i am taking

    Tampa Bay +10.5(bought 1 point) -130 $65 to win $50

    and NFL line looks like this

    gm1- 25-25-25-25
    gm2- 25-25-25-25
    gm3- 25-25-25-25

    the Giants are also a system play but i will wait till game time to make the bet
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