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    BuckeyeKaptn
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2014 - 7:31 AM ET #1

    Jeff's gone, but his system continues on.
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    Jeff's gone, but his system continues on.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2014 - 7:32 AM ET #2

    quoted from last thread


    Ok guys I'm sure there will be plenty of disbelievers but it took me about 4 days to research and filter it to perfection!

    Rules are as follows:

    1) Starts on April 15 and series chase must end by Sept 1
    2) 5 game chase but only 3.2% went to that point (10 of 305)
    3) Wait for a team to lose 4 in a row before starting chase
    4) Win % for team after the 4 losses must be above .517
    5) If the team being chased lost first 4 on the road you must look at the next series team and see if they had a losing record coming into to the series being played. Seems hard to follow but happens only about 15% of the time or less.
    6) Cash your ticket


    I believe I remembered all the rules if not will post later.
    Now this system only produces about 18 plays a year but if your patient it will not lose! 

    I will post plays when they happen! 
    There has been 12-0 plays this year already which is good!  

    Any questions feel free to ask 

    Good luck if you play and let's get the 

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    Ok guys I'm sure there will be plenty of disbelievers but it took me about 4 days to research and filter it to perfection!

    Rules are as follows:

    1) Starts on April 15 and series chase must end by Sept 1
    2) 5 game chase but only 3.2% went to that point (10 of 305)
    3) Wait for a team to lose 4 in a row before starting chase
    4) Win % for team after the 4 losses must be above .517
    5) If the team being chased lost first 4 on the road you must look at the next series team and see if they had a losing record coming into to the series being played. Seems hard to follow but happens only about 15% of the time or less.
    6) Cash your ticket


    I believe I remembered all the rules if not will post later.
    Now this system only produces about 18 plays a year but if your patient it will not lose! 

    I will post plays when they happen! 
    There has been 12-0 plays this year already which is good!  

    Any questions feel free to ask 

    Good luck if you play and let's get the 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2014 - 7:35 AM ET #3

    Post #2 was from 2013.

    This is what I have so far this year
    8-0
    A 6-2
    B 1-1
    C 0-1
    D 1-0
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    Post #2 was from 2013.

    This is what I have so far this year
    8-0
    A 6-2
    B 1-1
    C 0-1
    D 1-0
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2014 - 7:36 AM ET #4

    And I've been too busy to pay attention but Wednesday was a San Francisco play...but they lost so...goood!

    Today:
    San Fran (B)
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    And I've been too busy to pay attention but Wednesday was a San Francisco play...but they lost so...goood!

    Today:
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2014 - 7:40 AM ET #5

    Don't ask me about unit size and chases and labbys etc etc etc.  My money management this year has been horrible.  I have to sit down and figure a formula for myself to recover losses similar too but not fully a chase....labby maybe?  Thoughts?
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    Don't ask me about unit size and chases and labbys etc etc etc.  My money management this year has been horrible.  I have to sit down and figure a formula for myself to recover losses similar too but not fully a chase....labby maybe?  Thoughts?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2014 - 8:08 AM ET #6

    Any thoughts for money management, go here:

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=79&sub=101907301
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    Any thoughts for money management, go here:

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=79&sub=101907301
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2014 - 10:33 AM ET #7

    Thanks for continuing this system.
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    Thanks for continuing this system.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 20, 2014 - 10:33 AM ET #8

    Thanks for continuing this system.
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    Thanks for continuing this system.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 21, 2014 - 7:16 AM ET #9

    Today:
    San Fran (C)

    I kinda figured last night was gonna be a loss.....Lincecum
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    Today:
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    I kinda figured last night was gonna be a loss.....Lincecum
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2014 - 8:17 AM ET #10

    San Fran (C) Winner

    This is what I have so far this year
    9-0
    A 6-3
    B 1-2
    C 1-1
    D 1-0
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    San Fran (C) Winner

    This is what I have so far this year
    9-0
    A 6-3
    B 1-2
    C 1-1
    D 1-0
     
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    Posted: Jun. 22, 2014 - 10:26 PM ET #11

    Tomorrow KC?
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    Posted: Jun. 23, 2014 - 7:05 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by cruzdiablo:

    Tomorrow KC?

    Yep, Kansas City (A)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruzdiablo:

    Tomorrow KC?

    Yep, Kansas City (A)
     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2014 - 7:09 AM ET #13

    5) If the team being chased lost first 4 on the road you must look at the next series team and see if they had a losing record coming into to the series being played. Seems hard to follow but happens only about 15% of the time or less.

    question when u look at next series what are u looking for what qualify a play says see if "(THEY?)had a losing record" ....... see if team chasing has losing record versus next tm there playing next  or see if the next tm there playing has a losin record and if they do or dont then what ? and losing record as in 3 in row ?4 in row? below .517?

    step 5  says see if they have a losing record but doesnt say what to do if htey do or dont have a losing record
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    5) If the team being chased lost first 4 on the road you must look at the next series team and see if they had a losing record coming into to the series being played. Seems hard to follow but happens only about 15% of the time or less.

    question when u look at next series what are u looking for what qualify a play says see if "(THEY?)had a losing record" ....... see if team chasing has losing record versus next tm there playing next  or see if the next tm there playing has a losin record and if they do or dont then what ? and losing record as in 3 in row ?4 in row? below .517?

    step 5  says see if they have a losing record but doesnt say what to do if htey do or dont have a losing record
     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2014 - 8:59 AM ET #14

    KC a winner

    10-0
    A 7-3
    B 1-2
    C 1-1
    D 1-0
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    KC a winner

    10-0
    A 7-3
    B 1-2
    C 1-1
    D 1-0
     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2014 - 9:31 AM ET #15

    I forgot to put that in my excel that I update, it doesn't use that rule.  I would have to make another tab to figure that one out and I don't have the time right now.  All the plays I post ignore rule #5 until I can make that formula which probably won't be until the off season.
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    I forgot to put that in my excel that I update, it doesn't use that rule.  I would have to make another tab to figure that one out and I don't have the time right now.  All the plays I post ignore rule #5 until I can make that formula which probably won't be until the off season.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 24, 2014 - 9:34 AM ET #16

    Errr.  I forgot to mention that I don't use that rule...that my excel I made......blah blah
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    Errr.  I forgot to mention that I don't use that rule...that my excel I made......blah blah
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2014 - 11:33 AM ET #17

    Would Tor (A) be a play today?  
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    Would Tor (A) be a play today?  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2015 - 10:14 PM ET #18

    Buckeye, do you have the full 2014 results for this system? 
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    Buckeye, do you have the full 2014 results for this system? 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2015 - 4:00 AM ET #19

    i just backtested it:

    A 17-11
    B 4-7
    C 2-5
    D 3-2
    E 1-1
    F 1-0

    i see that it's supposed to be a 5 game chase
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    i just backtested it:

    A 17-11
    B 4-7
    C 2-5
    D 3-2
    E 1-1
    F 1-0

    i see that it's supposed to be a 5 game chase
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2015 - 5:32 AM ET #20

    i didn't use rule 5 in my backtest. i seem to remember the rule meaning that the opponent had won their previous series, not that their overall win percentage was over 50%, but i could definitely be wrong.

    i applied rule 5 (using overall win percentage and previous series record) to only the series that won on game 6, and it would have eliminated it.

    here are the numbers for previous years

    2013
    A 16-12
    B 7-5
    C 4-1
    D 1-0

    2012
    A 15-12
    B 8-4
    C 2-2
    D 1-1
    E 1-0

    2011
    A 8-12
    B 5-7
    C 4-3
    D 1-2
    E 2-0
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    i didn't use rule 5 in my backtest. i seem to remember the rule meaning that the opponent had won their previous series, not that their overall win percentage was over 50%, but i could definitely be wrong.

    i applied rule 5 (using overall win percentage and previous series record) to only the series that won on game 6, and it would have eliminated it.

    here are the numbers for previous years

    2013
    A 16-12
    B 7-5
    C 4-1
    D 1-0

    2012
    A 15-12
    B 8-4
    C 2-2
    D 1-1
    E 1-0

    2011
    A 8-12
    B 5-7
    C 4-3
    D 1-2
    E 2-0
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2015 - 6:05 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Ordinaryday6:

    i didn't use rule 5 in my backtest. i seem to remember the rule meaning that the opponent had won their previous series, not that their overall win percentage was over 50%, but i could definitely be wrong.

    i applied rule 5 (using overall win percentage and previous series record) to only the series that won on game 6, and it would have eliminated it.

    here are the numbers for previous years

    2013
    A 16-12
    B 7-5
    C 4-1
    D 1-0

    2012
    A 15-12
    B 8-4
    C 2-2
    D 1-1
    E 1-0

    2011
    A 8-12
    B 5-7
    C 4-3
    D 1-2
    E 2-0

    Looks decent, average odds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordinaryday6:

    i didn't use rule 5 in my backtest. i seem to remember the rule meaning that the opponent had won their previous series, not that their overall win percentage was over 50%, but i could definitely be wrong.

    i applied rule 5 (using overall win percentage and previous series record) to only the series that won on game 6, and it would have eliminated it.

    here are the numbers for previous years

    2013
    A 16-12
    B 7-5
    C 4-1
    D 1-0

    2012
    A 15-12
    B 8-4
    C 2-2
    D 1-1
    E 1-0

    2011
    A 8-12
    B 5-7
    C 4-3
    D 1-2
    E 2-0

    Looks decent, average odds?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2015 - 2:48 AM ET #22

    about a third of the plays are dogs. average odds are pretty consistent:

    2014: -108
    2013: -111
    2012: -115
    2011: -105

    41 out of a total of 189 plays (21.7%) are -150 or worse.

    i'm going to go through and add in rule 5, if i can do it easy enough. i'll do it both ways (total WP and previous series WP).
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    about a third of the plays are dogs. average odds are pretty consistent:

    2014: -108
    2013: -111
    2012: -115
    2011: -105

    41 out of a total of 189 plays (21.7%) are -150 or worse.

    i'm going to go through and add in rule 5, if i can do it easy enough. i'll do it both ways (total WP and previous series WP).
     
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    i went back and looked at it. i think it's designed to take out the pick in which the opponent won (had greater than 50% of) their previous series, but i did it both ways. it’s pretty clear that it needs Rule 5, but i’m not sure which is the better way to go, overall WP or series. i hope this formatting comes out okay, this was the best way to compare the 2. they both have pros and cons. what do you think?


    number of series in which the team lost all 4 of its games on the road:


    2014: 10

    2013: 9

    2012: 7

    2011: 9


    plays removed:


    based on series                                    overall WP

    2014: 4 (B, D, E, F)                          2014: 7 (3A, 2B, 1D, 1F)

    2013: 4 (A, 2B, C)                            2013: 7 (3A, 2B, 1C, 1D)

    2012: 6 (3A, 2B, 1E)                        2012: 5 (1A, 2B, 1D, 1E)

    2011: 7 (3A, 2B, 1C, 1D)                  2011: 4 (1A, 1B, 2C)

    total 21 (7A, 7B, 2C, 2D, 2E, 1F)       total: 23 (8A, 7B, 3C, 3D, 1E, 1F)

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    i went back and looked at it. i think it's designed to take out the pick in which the opponent won (had greater than 50% of) their previous series, but i did it both ways. it’s pretty clear that it needs Rule 5, but i’m not sure which is the better way to go, overall WP or series. i hope this formatting comes out okay, this was the best way to compare the 2. they both have pros and cons. what do you think?


    number of series in which the team lost all 4 of its games on the road:


    2014: 10

    2013: 9

    2012: 7

    2011: 9


    plays removed:


    based on series                                    overall WP

    2014: 4 (B, D, E, F)                          2014: 7 (3A, 2B, 1D, 1F)

    2013: 4 (A, 2B, C)                            2013: 7 (3A, 2B, 1C, 1D)

    2012: 6 (3A, 2B, 1E)                        2012: 5 (1A, 2B, 1D, 1E)

    2011: 7 (3A, 2B, 1C, 1D)                  2011: 4 (1A, 1B, 2C)

    total 21 (7A, 7B, 2C, 2D, 2E, 1F)       total: 23 (8A, 7B, 3C, 3D, 1E, 1F)

     
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    which makes the records:


    series                                                   overall

    2014                                                     2014

    A 17-7 (71% - 60.7% w/o Rule 5)          A 14-7 (66.7%)

    B 3-4                                                  B 2-5

    C 2-2                                                  C 2-3

    D 2-0                                                  D 2-1

                                                             E 1-0


    2013                                                      2013

    A 15-9 (62.5% - 57% w/o Rule 5)          A 13-8 (61.9%)

    B 5-4                                                   B 5-3

    C 3-1                                                   C 3-0

    D 1-0                                                          

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    which makes the records:


    series                                                   overall

    2014                                                     2014

    A 17-7 (71% - 60.7% w/o Rule 5)          A 14-7 (66.7%)

    B 3-4                                                  B 2-5

    C 2-2                                                  C 2-3

    D 2-0                                                  D 2-1

                                                             E 1-0


    2013                                                      2013

    A 15-9 (62.5% - 57% w/o Rule 5)          A 13-8 (61.9%)

    B 5-4                                                   B 5-3

    C 3-1                                                   C 3-0

    D 1-0                                                          

     
     
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    2012                                                      2012

    A 12-9 (57.1% - 55.5% w/o Rule 5)      A 14-8 (64%)

    B 6-3                                                    B 6-2

    C 2-1                                                    C 2-0

    D 1-0                                                          


    2011                                                       2011

    A 5-8 (38.4% - 40% w/o Rule 5)            A 7-9 (44%)

    B 3-5                                                    B 4-5

    C 3-2                                                    C 2-3

    D 0-2                                                    D 1-2

    E 2-0                                                    E 2-0


    average odds with those series removed:


    series:                                           overall


    2014: -116                                  2014: -112

    2013: -111                                  2013: -120

    2012: -114                                  2012: -119

    2011: -101                                  2011: -109

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    2012                                                      2012

    A 12-9 (57.1% - 55.5% w/o Rule 5)      A 14-8 (64%)

    B 6-3                                                    B 6-2

    C 2-1                                                    C 2-0

    D 1-0                                                          


    2011                                                       2011

    A 5-8 (38.4% - 40% w/o Rule 5)            A 7-9 (44%)

    B 3-5                                                    B 4-5

    C 3-2                                                    C 2-3

    D 0-2                                                    D 1-2

    E 2-0                                                    E 2-0


    average odds with those series removed:


    series:                                           overall


    2014: -116                                  2014: -112

    2013: -111                                  2013: -120

    2012: -114                                  2012: -119

    2011: -101                                  2011: -109

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