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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 10:42 AM ET #426

    typo: killersports WAS +105
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 11:03 AM ET #427

    Quote Originally Posted by hyvong:


    Degen >> the back test above is not working correctly for irage system due to the juice different between covers and killersports.  I think Covers line is 3% juice and killersports is 10% juice. For example: the WAS-NYY game yesterday, WAS +101 and killersports +108.

    Yeah - that's what I was afraid of - and included that comment in my post.  It will defintely affect the results - but theoretically - it may filter out a a play here or there.....but a DOG on killer sports - should remain a DOG on Covers.   Unless there are a lot of instances where a team is a DOG on covers but a favorite on Killersports.

    I could be wrong - who knows 

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyvong:


    Degen >> the back test above is not working correctly for irage system due to the juice different between covers and killersports.  I think Covers line is 3% juice and killersports is 10% juice. For example: the WAS-NYY game yesterday, WAS +101 and killersports +108.

    Yeah - that's what I was afraid of - and included that comment in my post.  It will defintely affect the results - but theoretically - it may filter out a a play here or there.....but a DOG on killer sports - should remain a DOG on Covers.   Unless there are a lot of instances where a team is a DOG on covers but a favorite on Killersports.

    I could be wrong - who knows 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 11:11 AM ET #428

    So again - take these results with a grain of salt - and can be used directionally but hyvong is right - killer sports does not have the same odds as covers - therefore will filter out plays that could have been potential wins.

    BUT I did find this - according to killer sports the system performs poorly in 4 game series - check it out

    NO INTERLEAGUE AND NO 4 GAME SERIES

     

    SQDL Query

    t:line >=-110 and o:line>=-110 and t:line > o:line and C and SGS <=3 and season = 2009

    2009 SU: 82-86 (0.2 rpg) average line: +100 / -110 on / against: -$400 / -$420 ROI: -2.4% / -2.3%
    2010 SU: 63-58 (0.2 rpg) average line: +100 / -110 on / against: +$500 / -$1,128 ROI: +4.1% / -8.5%
    2011 SU: 76-59 (0.5 rpg) average line: -100 / -109 on / against: +$1,709 / -$2,423 ROI: +12.6% / -16.4%
    2012 SU: 49-27 (0.5 rpg) average line: -101 / -109 on / against: +$2,173 / -$2,647 ROI: +28.3% / -31.9%

    Also if you only bet the 3rd game OF a 4 game series - it yeilds positive results

     

    SQDL Query

    t:line >=-110 and o:line>=-110 and t:line > o:line and C and SG =3 and SGS = 4 and season = 2011

    2012 SU: 4-1 (0.8 rpg) average line: -100 / -110 on / against: +$300 / -$338 ROI: +59.8% / -61.7%

    An extra 3 units in 2010, extra 7 units in 2011 and 3 units in 2012.

     

    Irage - is there any way you can backtest interleague and 4 game series results with your database?

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    So again - take these results with a grain of salt - and can be used directionally but hyvong is right - killer sports does not have the same odds as covers - therefore will filter out plays that could have been potential wins.

    BUT I did find this - according to killer sports the system performs poorly in 4 game series - check it out

    NO INTERLEAGUE AND NO 4 GAME SERIES

     

    SQDL Query

    t:line >=-110 and o:line>=-110 and t:line > o:line and C and SGS <=3 and season = 2009

    2009 SU: 82-86 (0.2 rpg) average line: +100 / -110 on / against: -$400 / -$420 ROI: -2.4% / -2.3%
    2010 SU: 63-58 (0.2 rpg) average line: +100 / -110 on / against: +$500 / -$1,128 ROI: +4.1% / -8.5%
    2011 SU: 76-59 (0.5 rpg) average line: -100 / -109 on / against: +$1,709 / -$2,423 ROI: +12.6% / -16.4%
    2012 SU: 49-27 (0.5 rpg) average line: -101 / -109 on / against: +$2,173 / -$2,647 ROI: +28.3% / -31.9%

    Also if you only bet the 3rd game OF a 4 game series - it yeilds positive results

     

    SQDL Query

    t:line >=-110 and o:line>=-110 and t:line > o:line and C and SG =3 and SGS = 4 and season = 2011

    2012 SU: 4-1 (0.8 rpg) average line: -100 / -110 on / against: +$300 / -$338 ROI: +59.8% / -61.7%

    An extra 3 units in 2010, extra 7 units in 2011 and 3 units in 2012.

     

    Irage - is there any way you can backtest interleague and 4 game series results with your database?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 11:32 AM ET #429

    I will have to create a field that calculates a 4 game series, but yes, I think I can do that.

    We have a couple of potential games today. Slim pick'ins on these Interleague games.

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    I will have to create a field that calculates a 4 game series, but yes, I think I can do that.

    We have a couple of potential games today. Slim pick'ins on these Interleague games.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 4:17 PM ET #430

    I am all over San Fran tonight. Even if the line shifts to make them a FAV I think Giants have better pitching, deeper bench. As long as they can hit tonight they will be good to go. Angels have better bats, but Cain has been pretty good as of late.
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    I am all over San Fran tonight. Even if the line shifts to make them a FAV I think Giants have better pitching, deeper bench. As long as they can hit tonight they will be good to go. Angels have better bats, but Cain has been pretty good as of late.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 4:29 PM ET #431

    GIANTS GO DOWN LIKE A LEAD BALLON!! Curse of the no-hitter!!   IMO of course
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    GIANTS GO DOWN LIKE A LEAD BALLON!! Curse of the no-hitter!!   IMO of course
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 6:52 PM ET #432

    LAA "lesser" pitchers have thrown back to back shutouts!
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    LAA "lesser" pitchers have thrown back to back shutouts!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 7:31 PM ET #433

    Milwuakee vs Toronto will be a GO.

    San Francisco v Angels will be a GO.

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    Milwuakee vs Toronto will be a GO.

    San Francisco v Angels will be a GO.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 9:03 PM ET #434

    question regarding the filters and the plays today.  the odds for milw closed at -115 and tor closed at -105.

    also Sf odds are -130 and LAA are +110.  These are according to Covers MLB Baseball Live odds & betting lines. 

    with the exception of some occasions, should the max line for both teams be -110?   these plays passed the filters?

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    question regarding the filters and the plays today.  the odds for milw closed at -115 and tor closed at -105.

    also Sf odds are -130 and LAA are +110.  These are according to Covers MLB Baseball Live odds & betting lines. 

    with the exception of some occasions, should the max line for both teams be -110?   these plays passed the filters?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 9:17 PM ET #435

    Don't think those odds are right Jake....MIL was a dog at game time - irage uses the odds listed under MLB scores on Covers
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    Don't think those odds are right Jake....MIL was a dog at game time - irage uses the odds listed under MLB scores on Covers
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeandba:

    question regarding the filters and the plays today.  the odds for milw closed at -115 and tor closed at -105.

    also Sf odds are -130 and LAA are +110.  These are according to Covers MLB Baseball Live odds & betting lines. 

    with the exception of some occasions, should the max line for both teams be -110?   these plays passed the filters?



    That is correct. I the lines exceed -110 on either side we pass on the game.

    Milwaukee was -101, good to go.
    San Fran +102. good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeandba:

    question regarding the filters and the plays today.  the odds for milw closed at -115 and tor closed at -105.

    also Sf odds are -130 and LAA are +110.  These are according to Covers MLB Baseball Live odds & betting lines. 

    with the exception of some occasions, should the max line for both teams be -110?   these plays passed the filters?



    That is correct. I the lines exceed -110 on either side we pass on the game.

    Milwaukee was -101, good to go.
    San Fran +102. good to go.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 9:26 PM ET #437

    Becarful where you get the lines. You have to look at the MLB scores to get the correct line. If you look on any on the contest pages you will get different odds.
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    Becarful where you get the lines. You have to look at the MLB scores to get the correct line. If you look on any on the contest pages you will get different odds.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 9:27 PM ET #438

    Cincinnati was not a play tonight. Filters and numbers favored Cleveland.
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    Cincinnati was not a play tonight. Filters and numbers favored Cleveland.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 9:30 PM ET #439

    Just FYI, I am working on RL bets, but there is alot of data to go through. I hammered Yankee RL tonight along with Milwaukee.
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    Just FYI, I am working on RL bets, but there is alot of data to go through. I hammered Yankee RL tonight along with Milwaukee.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by irage:

    Just FYI, I am working on RL bets, but there is alot of data to go through. I hammered Yankee RL tonight along with Milwaukee.

    Why not tell us b4 the Yankees game started?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irage:

    Just FYI, I am working on RL bets, but there is alot of data to go through. I hammered Yankee RL tonight along with Milwaukee.

    Why not tell us b4 the Yankees game started?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 9:45 PM ET #441

    thanks for the help on the odds page...sure enough when u compare the live odds page that i listed with the matchup they are different...ok i got it...thanks a ton for the assist. 
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    thanks for the help on the odds page...sure enough when u compare the live odds page that i listed with the matchup they are different...ok i got it...thanks a ton for the assist. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 9:49 PM ET #442

    Quote Originally Posted by gbpackman:

    Why not tell us b4 the Yankees game started?



    Because it really didn't have anything to do with this thread, just a RL I spotted this morning.

    Sorry!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbpackman:

    Why not tell us b4 the Yankees game started?



    Because it really didn't have anything to do with this thread, just a RL I spotted this morning.

    Sorry!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2012 - 1:34 AM ET #443

    Nice call on SF and MIL.
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    Nice call on SF and MIL.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2012 - 10:59 AM ET #444

    Irage - what are you're feelings on Toronto if they quailify today....I know the covers lines are not out yet - but I think TOR will be the DOG against MIL tonight - considering MIL is putting up a rookie pitcher.
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    Irage - what are you're feelings on Toronto if they quailify today....I know the covers lines are not out yet - but I think TOR will be the DOG against MIL tonight - considering MIL is putting up a rookie pitcher.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2012 - 11:00 AM ET #445

    Correction: TOR will be the DOG against MIL tonight - even though MIL is putting up a rookie pitcher.
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    Correction: TOR will be the DOG against MIL tonight - even though MIL is putting up a rookie pitcher.
     
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    Remember, I just found this less than 30 days ago. I did back test it, but did not apply filters. It's got potential, but needs to be refined.

    Giants baby, I told you Cain was good for a win. All I needed was Gaints to be able to hit and they did.

    THE DOG AND PONY SHOW!
    1. No bet if the line is higher than -110 for either team.
    Some exceptions made for -111, but I'll review as needed.
    2. Wait for the line movements to stop, some times moves happen up to 2-3 minutes before game time.
    3. Take the DOG
    4. Avoid games where the DOG is going to sweep a series.
    5. Avoid games where there is a lot of line movement.

    6/3 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/3 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/3 - Rangers - WIN
    6/3 - Cardinals - LOSS
    6/5 - Toronto - WIN
    6/5 - Padres - WIN
    6/8 - Washington - WIN
    6/8 - Tampa Bay - WIN
    6/10 - Cleveland - WIN
    6/10 - Dodgers - WIN
    6/12 - Oakland - WIN
    6/12 - Philly - LOSS
    6/13 - Boston v Miami - NO PLAY Weird Line Movements
    6/13 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/15 - Brewers - WIN
    6/16 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/18 - Brewers - WIN
    6/18 - Giants - WIN

    64% Winning Percentage

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    Remember, I just found this less than 30 days ago. I did back test it, but did not apply filters. It's got potential, but needs to be refined.

    Giants baby, I told you Cain was good for a win. All I needed was Gaints to be able to hit and they did.

    THE DOG AND PONY SHOW!
    1. No bet if the line is higher than -110 for either team.
    Some exceptions made for -111, but I'll review as needed.
    2. Wait for the line movements to stop, some times moves happen up to 2-3 minutes before game time.
    3. Take the DOG
    4. Avoid games where the DOG is going to sweep a series.
    5. Avoid games where there is a lot of line movement.

    6/3 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/3 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/3 - Rangers - WIN
    6/3 - Cardinals - LOSS
    6/5 - Toronto - WIN
    6/5 - Padres - WIN
    6/8 - Washington - WIN
    6/8 - Tampa Bay - WIN
    6/10 - Cleveland - WIN
    6/10 - Dodgers - WIN
    6/12 - Oakland - WIN
    6/12 - Philly - LOSS
    6/13 - Boston v Miami - NO PLAY Weird Line Movements
    6/13 - Brewers - LOSS
    6/15 - Brewers - WIN
    6/16 - Phillies - LOSS
    6/18 - Brewers - WIN
    6/18 - Giants - WIN

    64% Winning Percentage

     
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2012 - 11:21 AM ET #447

    Potential Plays for 6/19

    Cleveland

    Pittsburgh

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    Potential Plays for 6/19

    Cleveland

    Pittsburgh

     
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    CRUNCH TIME IN THE BATTLE FORUM!

    The Championship Battle between Edwardglennx and Crushalot enters CRUNCH TIME! The battle is all tied up 7-7 going into Day 6. Will Crush retain the Title or will we be crowning a new Champ in the BATTLE FORUM!The excitement is building.    Go to the Forum and watch this intense Battle unfold!
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    CRUNCH TIME IN THE BATTLE FORUM!

    The Championship Battle between Edwardglennx and Crushalot enters CRUNCH TIME! The battle is all tied up 7-7 going into Day 6. Will Crush retain the Title or will we be crowning a new Champ in the BATTLE FORUM!The excitement is building.    Go to the Forum and watch this intense Battle unfold!
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2012 - 12:06 PM ET #449

    Nice call last night Irage , keep up the work
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    Posted: Jun. 19, 2012 - 12:20 PM ET #450

    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    Irage - what are you're feelings on Toronto if they quailify today....I know the covers lines are not out yet - but I think TOR will be the DOG against MIL tonight - considering MIL is putting up a rookie pitcher.

    Good point! Remember when TOR was killin it in the Cactus Leagues...something like 18 wins in a row!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    Irage - what are you're feelings on Toronto if they quailify today....I know the covers lines are not out yet - but I think TOR will be the DOG against MIL tonight - considering MIL is putting up a rookie pitcher.

    Good point! Remember when TOR was killin it in the Cactus Leagues...something like 18 wins in a row!!!

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