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    Do all you guys understand what units are? Original Post from 8intheGate

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    Its obvious that there are ppl on here that do, but as I read some ppl's post there is no way the understand what a unit is.  A unit is the normal size wager you place on a game or fight that you like.  So if you normally bet 25 bux a game, ur unit size is 25$.  If you bet 100$ a game its 100.  The purpose of labeling things in units would be that if someone wants to tail your plays and they don't have the exact same bankroll as you is able to properly gauge your confidence level in a play you are making.

    For example I have a friend that has quite a bit of money that tails my plays.  My unit size was 125 due to the reduced juice on the site i was on at the time charging the same amount of juice for 120 as it did 125.  So instead of confusing him with bets of 125 and 375, I could just say 1u or 3u.  Then he would know the exact amt of his own money he should put down.

    The reason I am posting this is that a few ppl have these 10u and 20u plays every other card.  That's redic... either A.) ur lying, B.) u have no clue what a unit means, or C.) you really really really need to up your unit sizing.  I think I have been betting mma for about 7yrs... in all that time I have had less than 10 plays over 5u.  

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    Its obvious that there are ppl on here that do, but as I read some ppl's post there is no way the understand what a unit is.  A unit is the normal size wager you place on a game or fight that you like.  So if you normally bet 25 bux a game, ur unit size is 25$.  If you bet 100$ a game its 100.  The purpose of labeling things in units would be that if someone wants to tail your plays and they don't have the exact same bankroll as you is able to properly gauge your confidence level in a play you are making.

    For example I have a friend that has quite a bit of money that tails my plays.  My unit size was 125 due to the reduced juice on the site i was on at the time charging the same amount of juice for 120 as it did 125.  So instead of confusing him with bets of 125 and 375, I could just say 1u or 3u.  Then he would know the exact amt of his own money he should put down.

    The reason I am posting this is that a few ppl have these 10u and 20u plays every other card.  That's redic... either A.) ur lying, B.) u have no clue what a unit means, or C.) you really really really need to up your unit sizing.  I think I have been betting mma for about 7yrs... in all that time I have had less than 10 plays over 5u.  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:08 PM ET #2

    I read this and found it interesting as I see a lot of folks here that play 10, 15, 20, 25 units...... rarely do I see a 1 unit play  
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    I read this and found it interesting as I see a lot of folks here that play 10, 15, 20, 25 units...... rarely do I see a 1 unit play  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:12 PM ET #3

    They are liars! 
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    They are liars! 
     
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    Yes, it's obvious some people don't know what a unit is...
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    Yes, it's obvious some people don't know what a unit is...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:29 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by scaracas51:

    Its obvious that there are ppl on here that do, but as I read some ppl's post there is no way the understand what a unit is.  A unit is the normal size wager you place on a game or fight that you like.  So if you normally bet 25 bux a game, ur unit size is 25$.  If you bet 100$ a game its 100.  The purpose of labeling things in units would be that if someone wants to tail your plays and they don't have the exact same bankroll as you is able to properly gauge your confidence level in a play you are making.

    For example I have a friend that has quite a bit of money that tails my plays.  My unit size was 125 due to the reduced juice on the site i was on at the time charging the same amount of juice for 120 as it did 125.  So instead of confusing him with bets of 125 and 375, I could just say 1u or 3u.  Then he would know the exact amt of his own money he should put down.

    The reason I am posting this is that a few ppl have these 10u and 20u plays every other card.  That's redic... either A.) ur lying, B.) u have no clue what a unit means, or C.) you really really really need to up your unit sizing.  I think I have been betting mma for about 7yrs... in all that time I have had less than 10 plays over 5u.  

     SCHOOL THE DUMMIES SCAR WHEN I SEE THEM 15, 20, 30 UNITS I JUST LAUGH AND SAY REALLY WOW !!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaracas51:

    Its obvious that there are ppl on here that do, but as I read some ppl's post there is no way the understand what a unit is.  A unit is the normal size wager you place on a game or fight that you like.  So if you normally bet 25 bux a game, ur unit size is 25$.  If you bet 100$ a game its 100.  The purpose of labeling things in units would be that if someone wants to tail your plays and they don't have the exact same bankroll as you is able to properly gauge your confidence level in a play you are making.

    For example I have a friend that has quite a bit of money that tails my plays.  My unit size was 125 due to the reduced juice on the site i was on at the time charging the same amount of juice for 120 as it did 125.  So instead of confusing him with bets of 125 and 375, I could just say 1u or 3u.  Then he would know the exact amt of his own money he should put down.

    The reason I am posting this is that a few ppl have these 10u and 20u plays every other card.  That's redic... either A.) ur lying, B.) u have no clue what a unit means, or C.) you really really really need to up your unit sizing.  I think I have been betting mma for about 7yrs... in all that time I have had less than 10 plays over 5u.  

     SCHOOL THE DUMMIES SCAR WHEN I SEE THEM 15, 20, 30 UNITS I JUST LAUGH AND SAY REALLY WOW !!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:35 PM ET #6

    Yes, it's very comical.. What's the point of saying 25 units every time you bet a game instead of just raising yr units all together? Is there anyone of here that does this and can justify why?  
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    Yes, it's very comical.. What's the point of saying 25 units every time you bet a game instead of just raising yr units all together? Is there anyone of here that does this and can justify why?  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:44 PM ET #7

    The content of this post is not only inaccurate and misleading but deceptive as hell. Just an attempt by another guy to get you to believe that a 2 unit play is worth double your normal risk and a 3 unit is worth triple your normal risk. BAD money management and BAD sports gambling. Discrepancies in probability versus payback like that do not exist. Some plays are worthy of a little more risk and a "value play" on a longshot under dog a little less. You want money management and proportionate risk management?

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=27&sub=101568922

     

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    The content of this post is not only inaccurate and misleading but deceptive as hell. Just an attempt by another guy to get you to believe that a 2 unit play is worth double your normal risk and a 3 unit is worth triple your normal risk. BAD money management and BAD sports gambling. Discrepancies in probability versus payback like that do not exist. Some plays are worthy of a little more risk and a "value play" on a longshot under dog a little less. You want money management and proportionate risk management?

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=27&sub=101568922

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:45 PM ET #8

    This is a free site where people can pretend that they're gambling.

    Less than 5% are betting with money.

    They don't care what you have to say because it's playtime.

    Post a card of all dogs if you want,it doesn't matter when you have nothing to lose.

    There is no 100% cappers in the world
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    This is a free site where people can pretend that they're gambling.

    Less than 5% are betting with money.

    They don't care what you have to say because it's playtime.

    Post a card of all dogs if you want,it doesn't matter when you have nothing to lose.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:46 PM ET #9

    I may start saying  "I'm normally a 100$ bettor, but on this game I'm betting 450" 
    The term unit has been destroyed by touts who say to go all in every game
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    I may start saying  "I'm normally a 100$ bettor, but on this game I'm betting 450" 
    The term unit has been destroyed by touts who say to go all in every game
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:49 PM ET #10

    Im just saying that If you commonly make 5 or 10 unit bets then your 5unit should be 1 unit and your 10 should be 2 units.... I made this mistake myself... 

    It is very funny that people here on an everyday basis bet 25 units or 25 times more than their regular plays 
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    Im just saying that If you commonly make 5 or 10 unit bets then your 5unit should be 1 unit and your 10 should be 2 units.... I made this mistake myself... 

    It is very funny that people here on an everyday basis bet 25 units or 25 times more than their regular plays 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:51 PM ET #11

    The other negative side is the very same guys that post this stuff will tell you a "unit" is not always exactly the same thing. If they play a favorite they "add the juice" thereby inflating what they called the basic unit. So sometimes the "unit" is this and sometimes the "unit" is that.

     

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    The other negative side is the very same guys that post this stuff will tell you a "unit" is not always exactly the same thing. If they play a favorite they "add the juice" thereby inflating what they called the basic unit. So sometimes the "unit" is this and sometimes the "unit" is that.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJJ307:

    I may start saying  "I'm normally a 100$ bettor, but on this game I'm betting 450" 
    The term unit has been destroyed by touts who say to go all in every game

    No bet should ever be better than another bet

    There is no 100% cappers in the world
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJJ307:

    I may start saying  "I'm normally a 100$ bettor, but on this game I'm betting 450" 
    The term unit has been destroyed by touts who say to go all in every game

    No bet should ever be better than another bet

     
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    1 Unit could equal  100  or 200 or 1000

    25 units could equal 25.00

    I post [1U] - [3U] plays......

    I bet every game I post....

    I never post If I'm below -20.00 Units In any sport......

    Covers Record + 126 Units

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B49chBviCe0


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    1 Unit could equal  100  or 200 or 1000

    25 units could equal 25.00

    I post [1U] - [3U] plays......

    I bet every game I post....

    I never post If I'm below -20.00 Units In any sport......

    Covers Record + 126 Units

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B49chBviCe0


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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:54 PM ET #14

    Be sure to check out my 200 Unit LOCK! 
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    Be sure to check out my 200 Unit LOCK! 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingScorpio:

    This is a free site where people can pretend that they're gambling.

    Less than 5% are betting with money.

    They don't care what you have to say because it's playtime.

    Post a card of all dogs if you want,it doesn't matter when you have nothing to lose.



    i respect the hell out of you, but come on now, u cant possibly think 95 % of the degenerates on here are playing with strictly monopoly money. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingScorpio:

    This is a free site where people can pretend that they're gambling.

    Less than 5% are betting with money.

    They don't care what you have to say because it's playtime.

    Post a card of all dogs if you want,it doesn't matter when you have nothing to lose.



    i respect the hell out of you, but come on now, u cant possibly think 95 % of the degenerates on here are playing with strictly monopoly money. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:56 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by scaracas51:

    Im just saying that If you commonly make 5 or 10 unit bets then your 5unit should be 1 unit and your 10 should be 2 units.... I made this mistake myself... 

    It is very funny that people here on an everyday basis bet 25 units or 25 times more than their regular plays 

    You are still mistaken because you contend some wagers are worth double or triple a normal play. Road to the poorhouse.

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaracas51:

    Im just saying that If you commonly make 5 or 10 unit bets then your 5unit should be 1 unit and your 10 should be 2 units.... I made this mistake myself... 

    It is very funny that people here on an everyday basis bet 25 units or 25 times more than their regular plays 

    You are still mistaken because you contend some wagers are worth double or triple a normal play. Road to the poorhouse.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    The content of this post is not only inaccurate and misleading but deceptive as hell. Just an attempt by another guy to get you to believe that a 2 unit play is worth double your normal risk and a 3 unit is worth triple your normal risk. BAD money management and BAD sports gambling. Discrepancies in probability versus payback like that do not exist. Some plays are worthy of a little more risk and a "value play" on a longshot under dog a little less. You want money management and proportionate risk management?

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=27&sub=101568922

     


    very good info  
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    The content of this post is not only inaccurate and misleading but deceptive as hell. Just an attempt by another guy to get you to believe that a 2 unit play is worth double your normal risk and a 3 unit is worth triple your normal risk. BAD money management and BAD sports gambling. Discrepancies in probability versus payback like that do not exist. Some plays are worthy of a little more risk and a "value play" on a longshot under dog a little less. You want money management and proportionate risk management?

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=27&sub=101568922

     


    very good info  
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:57 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    The other negative side is the very same guys that post this stuff will tell you a "unit" is not always exactly the same thing. If they play a favorite they "add the juice" thereby inflating what they called the basic unit. So sometimes the "unit" is this and sometimes the "unit" is that.

     


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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    The other negative side is the very same guys that post this stuff will tell you a "unit" is not always exactly the same thing. If they play a favorite they "add the juice" thereby inflating what they called the basic unit. So sometimes the "unit" is this and sometimes the "unit" is that.

     


     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 8:59 PM ET #19

    If it bothers you so much don't click on people threads day in and day out. Ever think of that. You have been around here for awhile you should know who.is legit and how isn't
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    If it bothers you so much don't click on people threads day in and day out. Ever think of that. You have been around here for awhile you should know who.is legit and how isn't
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 9:00 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    You are still mistaken because you contend some wagers are worth double or triple a normal play. Road to the poorhouse.


     thanks for the info shared I see your point!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    You are still mistaken because you contend some wagers are worth double or triple a normal play. Road to the poorhouse.


     thanks for the info shared I see your point!!!


     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 9:06 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by steve2412:

    If it bothers you so much don't click on people threads day in and day out. Ever think of that. You have been around here for awhile you should know who.is legit and how isn't

    I never said it bothers me!! If you read carefully the post was not written by me but I founded interesting because I don't really understand how people play 25 plus units regularly... It also made sense to me... Now I have a better understanding of units thanks to Keyelement  so at the end my thread was useful to me because I was able to learn something new!!!  

    For those who know me know that I am not a disrespectful mofo  and I never ment any with this thread. 

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    If it bothers you so much don't click on people threads day in and day out. Ever think of that. You have been around here for awhile you should know who.is legit and how isn't

    I never said it bothers me!! If you read carefully the post was not written by me but I founded interesting because I don't really understand how people play 25 plus units regularly... It also made sense to me... Now I have a better understanding of units thanks to Keyelement  so at the end my thread was useful to me because I was able to learn something new!!!  

    For those who know me know that I am not a disrespectful mofo  and I never ment any with this thread. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2013 - 9:08 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by scaracas51:


    I never said it bothers me!! If you read carefully the post was not written by me but I found it  interesting because I don't really understand how people play 25 plus units regularly... It also made sense to me... Now I have a better understanding of units thanks to Keyelement  so at the end my thread was useful to me because I was able to learn something new!!!  

    For those who know me know that I am not a disrespectful mofo  and I never ment any with this thread. 


    sorry horrible grammar 
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    I never said it bothers me!! If you read carefully the post was not written by me but I found it  interesting because I don't really understand how people play 25 plus units regularly... It also made sense to me... Now I have a better understanding of units thanks to Keyelement  so at the end my thread was useful to me because I was able to learn something new!!!  

    For those who know me know that I am not a disrespectful mofo  and I never ment any with this thread. 


    sorry horrible grammar 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaracas51:


    I never said it bothers me!! If you read carefully the post was not written by me but I founded interesting because I don't really understand how people play 25 plus units regularly... It also made sense to me... Now I have a better understanding of units thanks to Keyelement  so at the end my thread was useful to me because I was able to learn something new!!!  

    For those who know me know that I am not a disrespectful mofo  and I never ment any with this thread. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaracas51:


    I never said it bothers me!! If you read carefully the post was not written by me but I founded interesting because I don't really understand how people play 25 plus units regularly... It also made sense to me... Now I have a better understanding of units thanks to Keyelement  so at the end my thread was useful to me because I was able to learn something new!!!  

    For those who know me know that I am not a disrespectful mofo  and I never ment any with this thread. 

     
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    To me 1 unit = your normal % of bankroll risked

    This could be 1% or 5% (hopefully no more than that on a play), there's no way of knowing and that is irrelevant and noone's business.  
    What is relevant if you follow a poster is that the unit size can help you guage their confidence in the play.  But you have to know what is a normal play for them to know their scale.



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    To me 1 unit = your normal % of bankroll risked

    This could be 1% or 5% (hopefully no more than that on a play), there's no way of knowing and that is irrelevant and noone's business.  
    What is relevant if you follow a poster is that the unit size can help you guage their confidence in the play.  But you have to know what is a normal play for them to know their scale.



     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaracas51:

    Its obvious that there are ppl on here that do, but as I read some ppl's post there is no way the understand what a unit is.  A unit is the normal size wager you place on a game or fight that you like.  So if you normally bet 25 bux a game, ur unit size is 25$.  If you bet 100$ a game its 100.  The purpose of labeling things in units would be that if someone wants to tail your plays and they don't have the exact same bankroll as you is able to properly gauge your confidence level in a play you are making.

    For example I have a friend that has quite a bit of money that tails my plays.  My unit size was 125 due to the reduced juice on the site i was on at the time charging the same amount of juice for 120 as it did 125.  So instead of confusing him with bets of 125 and 375, I could just say 1u or 3u.  Then he would know the exact amt of his own money he should put down.

    The reason I am posting this is that a few ppl have these 10u and 20u plays every other card.  That's redic... either A.) ur lying, B.) u have no clue what a unit means, or C.) you really really really need to up your unit sizing.  I think I have been betting mma for about 7yrs... in all that time I have had less than 10 plays over 5u.  


    Hey professor, do you know what the word "juice" means?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaracas51:

    Its obvious that there are ppl on here that do, but as I read some ppl's post there is no way the understand what a unit is.  A unit is the normal size wager you place on a game or fight that you like.  So if you normally bet 25 bux a game, ur unit size is 25$.  If you bet 100$ a game its 100.  The purpose of labeling things in units would be that if someone wants to tail your plays and they don't have the exact same bankroll as you is able to properly gauge your confidence level in a play you are making.

    For example I have a friend that has quite a bit of money that tails my plays.  My unit size was 125 due to the reduced juice on the site i was on at the time charging the same amount of juice for 120 as it did 125.  So instead of confusing him with bets of 125 and 375, I could just say 1u or 3u.  Then he would know the exact amt of his own money he should put down.

    The reason I am posting this is that a few ppl have these 10u and 20u plays every other card.  That's redic... either A.) ur lying, B.) u have no clue what a unit means, or C.) you really really really need to up your unit sizing.  I think I have been betting mma for about 7yrs... in all that time I have had less than 10 plays over 5u.  


    Hey professor, do you know what the word "juice" means?
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