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    Ct's - reverse movement MLB system

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    Posted: May. 21, 2011 - 11:53 AM ET #1

    Tracking for one week.
    Simple system;
    Using pregame numbers, look at any team that has over 80% of public on it.  If the line for that team is moving up (ex, -180 to -160), bet opposite.  
    Theory being; public is on the square side, heavy sharp money is on the other side.

    For the sake of this week, I am simply going to try to learn if there are any trigger points I should be looking for.  Say over 90% with a 10 pt move? or over 80% but only with a 20 pt move?

    May 21st;
    st.louis        98% +7  = kansas city          +118
    cleveland     89% +10 = cincinnati            -105
    baltimore     99% flat = washington           +145
    yanks         92% +10 = new york mets     +165
    sanfran       87% +11 = oakland                +134

    Simply enough, underlined teams are the play.  Again, I am only tracking this for a week or so, but thought others might be interested. 
    If  anyone has any info on this, or has tried it, please please please share your info.

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    Tracking for one week.
    Simple system;
    Using pregame numbers, look at any team that has over 80% of public on it.  If the line for that team is moving up (ex, -180 to -160), bet opposite.  
    Theory being; public is on the square side, heavy sharp money is on the other side.

    For the sake of this week, I am simply going to try to learn if there are any trigger points I should be looking for.  Say over 90% with a 10 pt move? or over 80% but only with a 20 pt move?

    May 21st;
    st.louis        98% +7  = kansas city          +118
    cleveland     89% +10 = cincinnati            -105
    baltimore     99% flat = washington           +145
    yanks         92% +10 = new york mets     +165
    sanfran       87% +11 = oakland                +134

    Simply enough, underlined teams are the play.  Again, I am only tracking this for a week or so, but thought others might be interested. 
    If  anyone has any info on this, or has tried it, please please please share your info.

    CT
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2011 - 3:50 PM ET #3

    CT

    i'm assuming the #'s you are quoting are on the Spread, because on the ML i'm seeing st louis 62% kansas city 38%.

    Just to confirm you are referring to the pregame sportsbook spy for your numbers correct?

     

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    i'm assuming the #'s you are quoting are on the Spread, because on the ML i'm seeing st louis 62% kansas city 38%.

    Just to confirm you are referring to the pregame sportsbook spy for your numbers correct?

     

     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2011 - 4:28 PM ET #4

    Ahhh sir, you are correct.  Sorry, I spent alot of the night looking into the legitimacy of this, I think spreadsheets boggled my mind.  Let me redo those picks.

    Today's only moneyline play;
    detroit 72% +15  =  Pittsburg +115

    I am thinking anything over 68% (this is one of the numbers I use in basketball) will be the trigger percentage.
    The line at 0 movement or plus movement is part 2 of the trigger.

    Also looking at a totals system like this, but based on 80% and no movement.....but I just have too many pots on the stove right now, so I'll stick with this moneyline for the week.

    Just to clarify;
    When 68% or more are on the moneyline, and the line is moving opposite those public percentages (or zero movement), follow the movement, not the public.

    I am not sure about the stipulations on when to take these lines.  For the trial, I will say whenever I happen to take the time to do this, but for later on, if it's looking profitable, I will likely make a designated time of day.

    Just for the record, I am not an MLB capper, I am doing this purely from a theory perspective.  If this week or two goes well, (which I expect it will), I will pick this up for the season after nba is done.
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    Ahhh sir, you are correct.  Sorry, I spent alot of the night looking into the legitimacy of this, I think spreadsheets boggled my mind.  Let me redo those picks.

    Today's only moneyline play;
    detroit 72% +15  =  Pittsburg +115

    I am thinking anything over 68% (this is one of the numbers I use in basketball) will be the trigger percentage.
    The line at 0 movement or plus movement is part 2 of the trigger.

    Also looking at a totals system like this, but based on 80% and no movement.....but I just have too many pots on the stove right now, so I'll stick with this moneyline for the week.

    Just to clarify;
    When 68% or more are on the moneyline, and the line is moving opposite those public percentages (or zero movement), follow the movement, not the public.

    I am not sure about the stipulations on when to take these lines.  For the trial, I will say whenever I happen to take the time to do this, but for later on, if it's looking profitable, I will likely make a designated time of day.

    Just for the record, I am not an MLB capper, I am doing this purely from a theory perspective.  If this week or two goes well, (which I expect it will), I will pick this up for the season after nba is done.
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2011 - 5:49 PM ET #5

    CT

    Too many pots on the stove, I liked that one, been there!

    Thanks for clearing that up, I'll check in to see how this is doing

    Good Luck

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    Too many pots on the stove, I liked that one, been there!

    Thanks for clearing that up, I'll check in to see how this is doing

    Good Luck

     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 12:19 PM ET #6

    trial 1-0

    Pregame does not have opening lines posted, only current lines.  Used vegasinsider stats for today's play.

    Day 2 plays;
    min 76% +15 = Arizona -160
    sea 73% +5 = san diego +120

    Not sure about this sea/sd play...hilton has different numbers (-5) than sportsbook.com (+5).   I will consider this to cancel each other, and be zero movement, which triggers. 
    This is what I mean about needing a specific time and site, for consistency.  
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    trial 1-0

    Pregame does not have opening lines posted, only current lines.  Used vegasinsider stats for today's play.

    Day 2 plays;
    min 76% +15 = Arizona -160
    sea 73% +5 = san diego +120

    Not sure about this sea/sd play...hilton has different numbers (-5) than sportsbook.com (+5).   I will consider this to cancel each other, and be zero movement, which triggers. 
    This is what I mean about needing a specific time and site, for consistency.  
     
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    Posted: May. 22, 2011 - 4:07 PM ET #7

    Just for reference sake, this should have been a play (will count it towards week record, win or lose)
    stlouis 76% +2 = kansas city  +158

    Also, the min/arizona play shouldn't have been a play by closing numbers, but is really, really close, so I'm leaving it.
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    Just for reference sake, this should have been a play (will count it towards week record, win or lose)
    stlouis 76% +2 = kansas city  +158

    Also, the min/arizona play shouldn't have been a play by closing numbers, but is really, really close, so I'm leaving it.
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2011 - 3:16 PM ET #8

    ytd 2-2

    today's plays;
    stlouis  77% +18 = san diego +112
    tampa bady 86% +13 = detroit -103

    Also not sure if I should be playing flat to win 1 unit, or wagering one unit to win whatever.    I think to be conservative, I will play it to win 1 unit.  
    Which means so far......
    1 unit = $100
     +$55
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    ytd 2-2

    today's plays;
    stlouis  77% +18 = san diego +112
    tampa bady 86% +13 = detroit -103

    Also not sure if I should be playing flat to win 1 unit, or wagering one unit to win whatever.    I think to be conservative, I will play it to win 1 unit.  
    Which means so far......
    1 unit = $100
     +$55
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2011 - 3:46 PM ET #9

    Ok heres where you were talking about never seen this before good luck with your system buddy

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    Ok heres where you were talking about never seen this before good luck with your system buddy

     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2011 - 11:11 PM ET #10

    Good luck on the system, I like the thought process 
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    Good luck on the system, I like the thought process 
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 2:01 PM ET #11

    What you got for today?
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    What you got for today?
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 2:21 PM ET #12

    trial run 3-3
    +$70

    atlanta 73% +5 = pittsburg +115
    st.louis 71% +19 = san diego +111
    san fran 72% +15 = florida +120
    baltimore 68% +15 = kansas city +155
    new york 78% +1 = toronto +158
    colorado 70% +30 = arizona +145 (afternoon game)

    Huge card today.  That's nice, I want a larger sample size before I dive into this head on.
    I am going to start putting just $10 a game on this, simply because it makes it easier to track.


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    trial run 3-3
    +$70

    atlanta 73% +5 = pittsburg +115
    st.louis 71% +19 = san diego +111
    san fran 72% +15 = florida +120
    baltimore 68% +15 = kansas city +155
    new york 78% +1 = toronto +158
    colorado 70% +30 = arizona +145 (afternoon game)

    Huge card today.  That's nice, I want a larger sample size before I dive into this head on.
    I am going to start putting just $10 a game on this, simply because it makes it easier to track.


     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 3:10 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by canadiantruth:

    trial run 3-3
    +$70

    atlanta 73% +5 = pittsburg +115
    st.louis 71% +19 = san diego +111
    san fran 72% +15 = florida +120
    baltimore 68% +15 = kansas city +155
    new york 78% +1 = toronto +158
    colorado 70% +30 = arizona +145 (afternoon game)

    Huge card today.  That's nice, I want a larger sample size before I dive into this head on.
    I am going to start putting just $10 a game on this, simply because it makes it easier to track.


    Like the card man im going to put $25 a game

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadiantruth:

    trial run 3-3
    +$70

    atlanta 73% +5 = pittsburg +115
    st.louis 71% +19 = san diego +111
    san fran 72% +15 = florida +120
    baltimore 68% +15 = kansas city +155
    new york 78% +1 = toronto +158
    colorado 70% +30 = arizona +145 (afternoon game)

    Huge card today.  That's nice, I want a larger sample size before I dive into this head on.
    I am going to start putting just $10 a game on this, simply because it makes it easier to track.


    Like the card man im going to put $25 a game

     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 3:08 PM ET #14

    trial run 4-8
    $-226
    Tough system day yesterday, keeping it going;
    today's;

    st.louis 70% +20 = san diego +105
    philly 77%  +18 = cincy +177
    nym 70% +14 = cubs -104
    san fran 73% +25 = arizona +115


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    trial run 4-8
    $-226
    Tough system day yesterday, keeping it going;
    today's;

    st.louis 70% +20 = san diego +105
    philly 77%  +18 = cincy +177
    nym 70% +14 = cubs -104
    san fran 73% +25 = arizona +115


     
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    Posted: May. 25, 2011 - 3:17 PM ET #15

    hey canadiantruth any thoughts on the over or under 5.5 for nhl tonight?
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    hey canadiantruth any thoughts on the over or under 5.5 for nhl tonight?
     
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    Posted: May. 26, 2011 - 4:45 PM ET #16


    trial run 6-10
    $-184

    today's play;
    colorado 74% +15 = arizona +145

    2 more days left in the trial after this
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    trial run 6-10
    $-184

    today's play;
    colorado 74% +15 = arizona +145

    2 more days left in the trial after this
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2011 - 3:05 PM ET #17

    trial run 7-10
    $-84

    Sorry, I think I missed yesterday? Was focused on nhl.

    today's plays;
    washington 70% +2 = san diego +128
    philly 74% +10 = nym +140
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    trial run 7-10
    $-84

    Sorry, I think I missed yesterday? Was focused on nhl.

    today's plays;
    washington 70% +2 = san diego +128
    philly 74% +10 = nym +140
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2011 - 1:02 PM ET #18

    trial run 8-11
    $-54

    philly 70% +55 = nym -115
    atl 68% +8 = cincincnati +127
    boston gm 2 82% +18 = detroit -103
    texas 77% +20 = kansas city +190
    boston gm 1 81% +9 = detroit +142

    Well....still unconvinced on this system.  Although if it weren't for the 1-5 day, this would be sitting at 7-6 and be up a nice amount of units.  I should only need about 45% to make money.   

    I am thinking it deserves another few days of tracking.
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    trial run 8-11
    $-54

    philly 70% +55 = nym -115
    atl 68% +8 = cincincnati +127
    boston gm 2 82% +18 = detroit -103
    texas 77% +20 = kansas city +190
    boston gm 1 81% +9 = detroit +142

    Well....still unconvinced on this system.  Although if it weren't for the 1-5 day, this would be sitting at 7-6 and be up a nice amount of units.  I should only need about 45% to make money.   

    I am thinking it deserves another few days of tracking.
     
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2011 - 10:50 PM ET #19

    2-3 today, minus a few more $$.

    I still think this could be quite profitable over the course of a season, I just don't have the patience for it right now. 

    Plan on just finding a capper to tail in mlb untill I find my own rythm.

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    2-3 today, minus a few more $$.

    I still think this could be quite profitable over the course of a season, I just don't have the patience for it right now. 

    Plan on just finding a capper to tail in mlb untill I find my own rythm.

    /end thread
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